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Thread started 08/24/05 10:10am

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ALL GUITAR HEADZ!: I HAVE A JESSE JOHNSON QUESTION...

The guitar used in Jesse's song "I'm Just Wanting You" off his EVERY SHADE OF LOVE album...is that a special guitar or just sounds different due to how he's playing it? Cuz the shit sounds tight as fuck!
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Reply #1 posted 08/24/05 10:50am

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TheCrucialExperience said:

The guitar used in Jesse's song "I'm Just Wanting You" off his EVERY SHADE OF LOVE album...is that a special guitar or just sounds different due to how he's playing it? Cuz the shit sounds tight as fuck!

Good question. I have always loved this cut. It's one of my faves from Jessie. My thought has always been that he is definately using an effect on that guitar track. It's a very "wound up tight" sound, so obviously it's compressed. He could have achieved this either from a pedal, from his amp, from the mixing board or from all three working together. But, he definately fiddled around with the sound to get that. He also could have used a Hawaiin guitar, which this sound is similar to as well.
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Reply #2 posted 08/24/05 11:32am

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blackguitaristz said:

TheCrucialExperience said:

The guitar used in Jesse's song "I'm Just Wanting You" off his EVERY SHADE OF LOVE album...is that a special guitar or just sounds different due to how he's playing it? Cuz the shit sounds tight as fuck!

Good question. I have always loved this cut. It's one of my faves from Jessie. My thought has always been that he is definately using an effect on that guitar track. It's a very "wound up tight" sound, so obviously it's compressed. He could have achieved this either from a pedal, from his amp, from the mixing board or from all three working together. But, he definately fiddled around with the sound to get that. He also could have used a Hawaiin guitar, which this sound is similar to as well.


Thanx, bro. Cuz I, too, thought it was a Hawaiian guitar. Good lookin out.
"But what of black women? . . . I most sincerely doubt if any other race of women could have brought its fineness up through so devilish a fire." -- W.E.B. Du Bois --
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Reply #3 posted 08/24/05 12:03pm

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blackguitaristz said:

TheCrucialExperience said:

The guitar used in Jesse's song "I'm Just Wanting You" off his EVERY SHADE OF LOVE album...is that a special guitar or just sounds different due to how he's playing it? Cuz the shit sounds tight as fuck!

Good question. I have always loved this cut. It's one of my faves from Jessie. My thought has always been that he is definately using an effect on that guitar track. It's a very "wound up tight" sound, so obviously it's compressed. He could have achieved this either from a pedal, from his amp, from the mixing board or from all three working together. But, he definately fiddled around with the sound to get that. He also could have used a Hawaiin guitar, which this sound is similar to as well.


How did I know this brother would have the answer...? confused
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Reply #4 posted 08/24/05 3:38pm

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sonofblade said:

blackguitaristz said:


Good question. I have always loved this cut. It's one of my faves from Jessie. My thought has always been that he is definately using an effect on that guitar track. It's a very "wound up tight" sound, so obviously it's compressed. He could have achieved this either from a pedal, from his amp, from the mixing board or from all three working together. But, he definately fiddled around with the sound to get that. He also could have used a Hawaiin guitar, which this sound is similar to as well.


How did I know this brother would have the answer...? confused
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Reply #5 posted 08/24/05 3:40pm

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TheCrucialExperience said:

The guitar used in Jesse's song "I'm Just Wanting You" off his EVERY SHADE OF LOVE album...is that a special guitar or just sounds different due to how he's playing it? Cuz the shit sounds tight as fuck!

Eventhough my guitar playing skills aren't refined , I had to contribute to this thread. The song you mentioned was one of my favorite songs by Jesse.
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MadameS said:

TheCrucialExperience said:

The guitar used in Jesse's song "I'm Just Wanting You" off his EVERY SHADE OF LOVE album...is that a special guitar or just sounds different due to how he's playing it? Cuz the shit sounds tight as fuck!

Eventhough my guitar playing skills aren't refined , I had to contribute to this thread. The song you mentioned was one of my favorite songs by Jesse.

Dude is certainly underappreciated, aint he?
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Reply #7 posted 08/24/05 4:40pm

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MadameS said:


Eventhough my guitar playing skills aren't refined , I had to contribute to this thread. The song you mentioned was one of my favorite songs by Jesse.

Dude is certainly underappreciated, aint he?

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Reply #8 posted 08/24/05 6:42pm

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Love this track, too. Always have.

I always thought Jesse recorded the tracks at a slower speed than normal -- kind of a "Camille" effect on his guitar... Prince does this a lot, though usually distorted.
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Reply #9 posted 08/25/05 6:47am

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TheCrucialExperience said:

The guitar used in Jesse's song "I'm Just Wanting You" off his EVERY SHADE OF LOVE album...is that a special guitar or just sounds different due to how he's playing it? Cuz the shit sounds tight as fuck!
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ThreadBare said:

Love this track, too. Always have.

I always thought Jesse recorded the tracks at a slower speed than normal -- kind of a "Camille" effect on his guitar... Prince does this a lot, though usually distorted.



I agree...that's what I always thought too. I thought it had to be speeded up a little bit anyways. Although the notes aren't hitting super quick, the sound makes me think it might have been some kind of steel guitar maybe. If you listen closely, there are two guitar solos playing over each other. That may play with the sound too.
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Reply #11 posted 08/25/05 7:30am

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If I recall correctly....Jesse stated that the guitar tracks for that tune were recorded direct to the board.(no amp). Guitar World featured an article on Jesse where he talked a bit about his gear and the album "Every Shade Of Love".
I'd thought for years that he used a pitch shifter or an Eventide harmonizer to
double his lines.

Though isn't it mentioned in the liner notes to his "collection" cd that part of the inspiration for the playing was the Eagle's
tune "Hotel California" and that he just simply recorded his own harmony lines without the use of any effects.

Btw the Guitar World issue is Oct. 1988. I just don't have it handy @ the moment.



baldazbiz said:

ThreadBare said:

Love this track, too. Always have.

I always thought Jesse recorded the tracks at a slower speed than normal -- kind of a "Camille" effect on his guitar... Prince does this a lot, though usually distorted.



I agree...that's what I always thought too. I thought it had to be speeded up a little bit anyways. Although the notes aren't hitting super quick, the sound makes me think it might have been some kind of steel guitar maybe. If you listen closely, there are two guitar solos playing over each other. That may play with the sound too.
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Reply #12 posted 08/25/05 9:10am

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Thanx for all the input, guys. Whatever technique he used, he did a helluva job on that sound.
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Reply #13 posted 08/25/05 9:23am

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ThreadBare said:

Love this track, too. Always have.

I always thought Jesse recorded the tracks at a slower speed than normal -- kind of a "Camille" effect on his guitar... Prince does this a lot, though usually distorted.



Bingo. This is an old analog trick. Jesse used it on guitar; Prince used it for vocal harmonies.
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Reply #14 posted 08/29/05 6:31pm

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BlaqueKnight said:

ThreadBare said:

Love this track, too. Always have.

I always thought Jesse recorded the tracks at a slower speed than normal -- kind of a "Camille" effect on his guitar... Prince does this a lot, though usually distorted.



Bingo. This is an old analog trick. Jesse used it on guitar; Prince used it for vocal harmonies.



Prince used it on guitar too. Check out the solo on Hello for an example.
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Reply #15 posted 09/01/05 10:25am

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Ok, another question...those guitar headz that are familiar with Prince's "Count the Days"...he uses a similiar sound with the guitar, is that the same process that some feel Jesse is using on "I'm Just Wanting You"?
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