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andre cymone For some reason,I've been really giving Andre's stuff a lot of listens lately. Not all of it is good,but there are some likeable moments. He def has talent. I wish he would have kept up the solo work.It would have been interesting to hear him progress. And I've found there are even some sites w/info out there(not much)and I've even seen his cd's for sale,albeit at a high asking price.
There is a def Prince influence on his tracks,but also he represents himself,too. One of the songs I've started liking is "voice on the radio".It reminds me of a lost Dirty Mind demo. But I think there is a little sumpin' for a lot of P fans to like. It is a little different,though. I have just included a sample track here:http://s18.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3AU42K9IAMVGX3FKEWPZF2NWTP "I'm a pig..so,magic elixir I swill" | |
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How cool! Just like that we finally get to hear that music....Believe me, I've been lookin'! That track is called livin' in the new wave though....
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rockwilder said: There is a def Prince influence on his tracks...
Simply not possible. What many folks don't understand is that Andre was every bit as much a creator of the Minneapolis sound as Prince was. Prince was the one who became wildly popular. | |
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violator said: rockwilder said: There is a def Prince influence on his tracks...
Simply not possible. What many folks don't understand is that Andre was every bit as much a creator of the Minneapolis sound as Prince was. Prince was the one who became wildly popular. Thank you! Andre gets far less credit than he deserves. Andre is truly a great talent. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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I think I've been misunderstood.I never said that Andre wasn't his own man. This is the reason he went solo in the first place. I agree that he is monstrously talented. And,yes,it is possible for Andre to be influenced by Prince ,just like it is possible that Andre influenced Prince. I stated it that way for ppl that may never have heard his stuff ,but are Prince fans. There is a mini Minni sound he had. Yes,but there was also Andre's own personality involved. He rarely sang about the same stuff Prince did. But they came from the same place. They were,for all intents and purposes,brothers. They were best friends,looked alike,both daring,both extremely talented,both competitive,both prideful,and they grew up playing together. WE know Andre was bad because Prince didn't want him to leave when he ,basically,ran so many others away with a fly swatter.
Anyway,I think it's a shame that there is so little available in the way of news and music for this dude. I have always made sure I had copies of his music along with Jesse's. I only recently "lost" my cd's,but I have a backup tape. This will be rectified in just a few days. I will have cd-r copies of the 3 cd's. One day,I will shell out the $35 for each of the official cd's. I just can't do it right now. I found that Andre web site and some various articles on the web about him. I wish there were more. I wish someone would update said sites and I wish Andre would talk to us through music and words. I imagined that he would be a huge force in music. Somehow,he has done a LOT more than I first realized,but not as much as I thought he would have. The public NEEDS dudes like this!!These guys are my heroes. "I'm a pig..so,magic elixir I swill" | |
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lookingforandrecymone said: How cool! Just like that we finally get to hear that music....Believe me, I've been lookin'! That track is called livin' in the new wave though....
Do you have survivin' in the 80's? I only have it on tape now due to a friend of mine who jacked my andre and jill jones stuff. I am mad,but I can't be that mad because I started the whole cd jacking thing many moons ago. It's a competition,but it hurts.When I get the cd-r copies ,I will make survivin' in the '80's available to you. "I'm a pig..so,magic elixir I swill" | |
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Survivin' in the 80's is my favorite Andre track, got the 12' on vinyl and can put it all on cd | |
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rockwilder said: I think I've been misunderstood.I never said that Andre wasn't his own man. This is the reason he went solo in the first place. I agree that he is monstrously talented. And,yes,it is possible for Andre to be influenced by Prince ,just like it is possible that Andre influenced Prince. I stated it that way for ppl that may never have heard his stuff ,but are Prince fans. There is a mini Minni sound he had. Yes,but there was also Andre's own personality involved. He rarely sang about the same stuff Prince did. But they came from the same place. They were,for all intents and purposes,brothers. They were best friends,looked alike,both daring,both extremely talented,both competitive,both prideful,and they grew up playing together. WE know Andre was bad because Prince didn't want him to leave when he ,basically,ran so many others away with a fly swatter.
Anyway,I think it's a shame that there is so little available in the way of news and music for this dude. I have always made sure I had copies of his music along with Jesse's. I only recently "lost" my cd's,but I have a backup tape. This will be rectified in just a few days. I will have cd-r copies of the 3 cd's. One day,I will shell out the $35 for each of the official cd's. I just can't do it right now. I found that Andre web site and some various articles on the web about him. I wish there were more. I wish someone would update said sites and I wish Andre would talk to us through music and words. I imagined that he would be a huge force in music. Somehow,he has done a LOT more than I first realized,but not as much as I thought he would have. The public NEEDS dudes like this!!These guys are my heroes. 
I understood your point the first time. I just had to get my praise in to Andre also because he is my favorite artist that Prince has ever worked with and the one I consider more talented than any of the rest, and then would be Jesse Johnson. I remember when Andre did his first album, "Livin' In The New Wave", in 1982. He told "Right On" magazine during that time, that people were always stopping him on the street and saying how much they loved his new album. The more he talked to some of the people that stopped him, he realized that they thought he was Prince because they started mentioning tracks from "1999", which was Prince's new album at the time. The interviewer told him that he did resemble Prince and he said when two people are around each other as many years and he and Prince was, they start to look like each other. It also would get on his nerves because when people heard his first album, they would compare it to Prince. He told "Right On" magazine that if he were to do bluegrass music, people would still compare it to Prince. When I listen to "Livin' In The New Wave", moreso than any other of Andre's work, I hear a little of the sound that Prince and Andre had but the album really doesn't sound like anything Prince has ever done. It's much more new wave than Prince ever was. You can tell it is Andre trying to break free from the Prince camp and be an artist on his own. I also admire him for not sucking up and continuing to take any shit off of Prince when he finally get fed up with being fucked over. He was the first to get the hell out and go on his on. His first two albums pretty much went unnoticed, his third album did much better publicly, and his work with Jody Watley proved publicly that he was a great talent on his own. Of course, people only tend to remember Jody and not the "behind the scenes" man. Anyway, you gave a great description of Andre. I would love to see more of him myself. [Edited 1/25/05 22:06pm] Andy is a four letter word. | |
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violator said: rockwilder said: There is a def Prince influence on his tracks...
Simply not possible. What many folks don't understand is that Andre was every bit as much a creator of the Minneapolis sound as Prince was. Prince was the one who became wildly popular. Well, if you take a quote directly from Jimmy Jam which I think is on the Purple Rain DVD special edition, the Mpls sound was Prince. Andre played a part no doubt - just as Dez did. But most of the people who were there will say it all came down the Prince as the single creative driving force behind that sound. No Prince; no Mpls sound. | |
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newpower4ever said: violator said: Simply not possible. What many folks don't understand is that Andre was every bit as much a creator of the Minneapolis sound as Prince was. Prince was the one who became wildly popular. Well, if you take a quote directly from Jimmy Jam which I think is on the Purple Rain DVD special edition, the Mpls sound was Prince. Andre played a part no doubt - just as Dez did. But most of the people who were there will say it all came down the Prince as the single creative driving force behind that sound. No Prince; no Mpls sound. Everything that I've ever read or seen suggested that the sound that we know as the Minneapolis Sound was forged in Andre's basement by both men. Not being there, of course, I can't be certain of anything. [Edited 1/26/05 17:13pm] [Edited 1/26/05 17:13pm] | |
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violator said: newpower4ever said: Well, if you take a quote directly from Jimmy Jam which I think is on the Purple Rain DVD special edition, the Mpls sound was Prince. Andre played a part no doubt - just as Dez did. But most of the people who were there will say it all came down the Prince as the single creative driving force behind that sound. No Prince; no Mpls sound. Everything that I've ever read or seen suggested that the sound that we know as the Minneapolis Sound was forged in Andre's basement by both men. Not being there, of course, I can't be certain of anything. [Edited 1/26/05 17:13pm] [Edited 1/26/05 17:13pm] Ya know its funny though...the two people who never seem to discredit each other about this are.....Andre and Prince, but somehow people debate this issue...theres a lot of what would have happened ifs... http://www.purplemusic.my...06-18.html "Well, we actually, uh, hooked up back in high school. Of course, he went to Central, which was south Minneapolis, and I went to North, which was obviously north Minneapolis. But we both lived in north Minneapolis. I hooked up with Andre Cymone. We both went to North, started hanging out together, and he told me about his band, man, and I went to see these guys play, which [Prince]'s cousin at the time, Charles Smith, was on drums. And the band was incredible. These guys were like 14 years old, man. They were playing like they were 25. You know, guitar solos, Andre was plucking on the bass. It was just incredible. And I just became, like, a fan of their band, which was called Grand Central at the time, and, you know, Andre and I started hanging out. He came over to my house one day. We were cutting class. Kids, don't do that. I don't recommend it. But we was cutting class, and he came over to my house, man, and, you know, we found out - I told him I played drums. But he heard me play. He was, like, "Man, you're good." You know, he's, like, "We just happened to be having some scheduling problems with our current drummer." So that's when I went and auditioned for them a few days later, and that was it, man. I got the gig, man, and then, you know, [Prince] was sort of a real standoffish character, you know. He sort of talked through Andre to me for the first couple of weeks, and then after that, we started having direct conversations, and then we became real tight. But that's basically - We were about 14, 15 years old at that time." --Morris Day | |
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vainandy said: I also admire him for not sucking up and continuing to take any shit off of Prince when he finally get fed up with being fucked over. He was the first to get the hell out and go on his on. His first two albums pretty much went unnoticed, his third album did much better publicly, and his work with Jody Watley proved publicly that he was a great talent on his own. Of course, people only tend to remember Jody and not the "behind the scenes" man. Andre got a lot of production work after that first Jody Watley album--Jermaine Stewart, Adam Ant, Pretty Poison, Pebbles, James Ingram, etc. | |
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www.andrecymone.com
I found this website and I found the "Dance Electric Video"! I'd never seen it! Its Hard to believe thats the last video he made TWENTY YEARS AGO!! | |
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Okay!!! whats the story with Andre Ymone!?!?!?!?! I got info here and was interested so I went to
http://www.andrecymone.com/ I downloaded his whole album surviving in the 80's and then put it on my ipod! HIS ALBUM WIPED OUT MY WHOLE IPOD!!!!! Its empty now. Wierd! | |
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"Livin in the New Wave" - i heard that track on cymones website. u cant escape from this funk- masterpiece!! | |
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vainandy said:
I understood your point the first time. I just had to get my praise in to Andre also because he is my favorite artist that Prince has ever worked with and the one I consider more talented than any of the rest, and then would be Jesse Johnson. I remember when Andre did his first album, "Livin' In The New Wave", in 1982. He told "Right On" magazine during that time, that people were always stopping him on the street and saying how much they loved his new album. The more he talked to some of the people that stopped him, he realized that they thought he was Prince because they started mentioning tracks from "1999", which was Prince's new album at the time. The interviewer told him that he did resemble Prince and he said when two people are around each other as many years and he and Prince was, they start to look like each other. It also would get on his nerves because when people heard his first album, they would compare it to Prince. He told "Right On" magazine that if he were to do bluegrass music, people would still compare it to Prince. When I listen to "Livin' In The New Wave", moreso than any other of Andre's work, I hear a little of the sound that Prince and Andre had but the album really doesn't sound like anything Prince has ever done. It's much more new wave than Prince ever was. You can tell it is Andre trying to break free from the Prince camp and be an artist on his own. I also admire him for not sucking up and continuing to take any shit off of Prince when he finally get fed up with being fucked over. He was the first to get the hell out and go on his on. His first two albums pretty much went unnoticed, his third album did much better publicly, and his work with Jody Watley proved publicly that he was a great talent on his own. Of course, people only tend to remember Jody and not the "behind the scenes" man. Anyway, you gave a great description of Andre. I would love to see more of him myself. [Edited 1/25/05 22:06pm] As I have mentioned on here before, I worked with Andre and Morris back in 95 when I played lead guitar on a Morris cut titled "Skirt". It was at Andre's loft in downtown L.A. using Andre's studio. I had actually met Andre 9 years previous to that at a Mazarati concert at The Palace in Hollywood. When I met him again, he said that I looked familiar. I told him that we had met before. He didn't remember where, but he did remember me. Anyway, I stayed in touch with Andre on and off since 95 up untill 3 years ago. I found Andre to be very low key and very easy going. Same with Morris. They're not "L.A. guys" to be certain, which was cool. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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I got Adam Ant's Manners & Physique recently, partially because Andre produced & played most of the instruments, and I gotta say, it's one of the worst records I've ever heard. I might have felt different if I heard it in '89, but I doubt it. The production is so generic, and the songs sound completely flat, like they never go anywhere. Of course, Adam wrote the cheesy songs, but much of the blame goes to Andre.
Maybe his solo stuff is better. Check this song out at:
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andyman91 said: I got Adam Ant's Manners & Physique recently, partially because Andre produced & played most of the instruments, and I gotta say, it's one of the worst records I've ever heard. I might have felt different if I heard it in '89, but I doubt it. The production is so generic, and the songs sound completely flat, like they never go anywhere. Of course, Adam wrote the cheesy songs, but much of the blame goes to Andre.
Maybe his solo stuff is better. His solo stuff is better. But hell yeah, Manners & Physique is sorry. I got it when it first came out. I've always pretty much dug Adam Ant's early stuff. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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blackguitaristz said: andyman91 said: I got Adam Ant's Manners & Physique recently, partially because Andre produced & played most of the instruments, and I gotta say, it's one of the worst records I've ever heard. I might have felt different if I heard it in '89, but I doubt it. The production is so generic, and the songs sound completely flat, like they never go anywhere. Of course, Adam wrote the cheesy songs, but much of the blame goes to Andre.
Maybe his solo stuff is better. His solo stuff is better. But hell yeah, Manners & Physique is sorry. I got it when it first came out. I've always pretty much dug Adam Ant's early stuff. I'd been listening to the first Adam & the Ants records (for nostalgic purposes mostly) thinking, okay, it's a bit goofy, but it's got a lot of personality and some of the music is pretty decent. I was surprised at how bad Manners & Physique is. No personality or creativity. Not even a guilty pleasure album. But I remember thinking Jody Watley's music didn't suck, and he produced that, right? Check this song out at:
http://www.soundclick.com...tmusic.htm | |
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andyman91 said: blackguitaristz said: His solo stuff is better. But hell yeah, Manners & Physique is sorry. I got it when it first came out. I've always pretty much dug Adam Ant's early stuff. I'd been listening to the first Adam & the Ants records (for nostalgic purposes mostly) thinking, okay, it's a bit goofy, but it's got a lot of personality and some of the music is pretty decent. I was surprised at how bad Manners & Physique is. No personality or creativity. Not even a guilty pleasure album. But I remember thinking Jody Watley's music didn't suck, and he produced that, right? | |
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indiansky said: andyman91 said: I'd been listening to the first Adam & the Ants records (for nostalgic purposes mostly) thinking, okay, it's a bit goofy, but it's got a lot of personality and some of the music is pretty decent. I was surprised at how bad Manners & Physique is. No personality or creativity. Not even a guilty pleasure album. But I remember thinking Jody Watley's music didn't suck, and he produced that, right? somehow I re posted someone elses post SORRY about THAT. I guess I didnt know what to say, but someone said to me that Andre always wanted to do something different. Never wanted to do the same thing twice. They said that he wanted to do something original with Adam Ant, but Adam Ant wanted what Andre did for Jody, I think we lost ANdre and his music when people wated him to just keep doing the same thing that they knew made money. Now to be fair....this is through som many sourse. My cousin's husband's sister was the assistant for someone who worked with Andre. ITs not exactly gospel! | |
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andyman91 said: blackguitaristz said: His solo stuff is better. But hell yeah, Manners & Physique is sorry. I got it when it first came out. I've always pretty much dug Adam Ant's early stuff. I'd been listening to the first Adam & the Ants records (for nostalgic purposes mostly) thinking, okay, it's a bit goofy, but it's got a lot of personality and some of the music is pretty decent. I was surprised at how bad Manners & Physique is. No personality or creativity. Not even a guilty pleasure album. But I remember thinking Jody Watley's music didn't suck, and he produced that, right? Yep. But that was more in Andre's league. That was where Andre lived, musically. Andre could do that for Jody what Jimmy and Terry did for Janet in his sleep. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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It's pretty obvious that the person who initiated that site is taking the piss, to counter the fact that nothing publicly is known about Andre Cymone and his artistic endeavours, which probably entail going for welfare... | |
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jjam said: It's pretty obvious that the person who initiated that site is taking the piss, to counter the fact that nothing publicly is known about Andre Cymone and his artistic endeavours, which probably entail going for welfare...
OUCH! Sounds like you might be that bitter ex girlfriend who is rumored to have made the site for revenge. Is it you? | |
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blackguitaristz said: andyman91 said: I'd been listening to the first Adam & the Ants records (for nostalgic purposes mostly) thinking, okay, it's a bit goofy, but it's got a lot of personality and some of the music is pretty decent. I was surprised at how bad Manners & Physique is. No personality or creativity. Not even a guilty pleasure album. But I remember thinking Jody Watley's music didn't suck, and he produced that, right? Yep. But that was more in Andre's league. That was where Andre lived, musically. Andre could do that for Jody what Jimmy and Terry did for Janet in his sleep. Jimmy and Terry did variations of the same song over and over again. OF COURSE they could do them in their sleep....BORING! I have so much more respect for an artist who would quit music beause he didnt want to repeat himself for money. | |
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