nd33 said:

thesexofit said:

Forum already is flooded with MJ threads because the mods can't be bothered to lock them.

At the time of writing, there are 3 topics of him on page 1 (one being Jermaine aswell LOL), there shouldn't be any. 1 would be ok, but 3? We either need more mods or for you guys just to lock them up quicker.

You REALLY think 2 threads = flood???

REALLY???

There's two James Brown threads and two Madonna threads too.

The forum is obviously flooded with James Brown, Madonna and MJ threads. Let's all slit our wrists, this is agony.

nd33 said:

Spinlight said:

Dude, forget it. Not gonna happen. Nor should it. Those douchebags should leave the org and find a fucking MJ forum to spam their crap in. Takes the soul right out of the artist and their music, puts all the focus on their retarded insistance on polluting the site with myriad threads. They don't respect the nature of the site and, thus, don't respect those of us who would prefer the sticky go away and that everyone keeps their shit in check.

It's morons like that that cause the sticky to stay around. They not only piss the mods off, but they piss off MJ fans who aren't as oblivious and numb-skulled as them.

[Edited 2/29/12 2:55am]

I maintain that the sticky could be left up and retitled something along the lines of "MJ - Pictures & Non Music Related Shit".

Then the people who like actually discussing his music and career can do it properly, in properly crafted threads about specific subjects, like normal people.

It never happens that way because some people feel entitled to make a new thread for every-odd Michael Jackson song. Like that Serious Effect one that is up right now. That foolish thread creator knows damn well its an inappropriate thread cuz it breaks the -current- rules set forth. He knows it full-well but disregards it and even mocks the fact he is disregarding it.

People have no respect and then wonder why crotchety grumps like me rag on them.

Spinlight said:

nd33 said:

I maintain that the sticky could be left up and retitled something along the lines of "MJ - Pictures & Non Music Related Shit".

Then the people who like actually discussing his music and career can do it properly, in properly crafted threads about specific subjects, like normal people.

It never happens that way because some people feel entitled to make a new thread for every-odd Michael Jackson song. Like that Serious Effect one that is up right now. That foolish thread creator knows damn well its an inappropriate thread cuz it breaks the -current- rules set forth. He knows it full-well but disregards it and even mocks the fact he is disregarding it.

People have no respect and then wonder why crotchety grumps like me rag on them.

I may be misinterpreting you, but it sounds like you don't like threads about individual songs?

There are 15 threads on the first page of "Music-Non Prince" about individual songs. It's a VERY common thread genesis.

Emancipation89 said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

The problem is what we're seeing in the Serious Effects thread. A music thread is now flooded with pictures. Not that I'm saying anything against anyone doing it, but it makes the mods think they have no reason to stop using the sticky.

Pictures are not that big of a deal imo. Some people post pictures, some people have nothing to contribute to the thread but complain about images flooding, but people who like to discuss the music WILL discuss the music. The same happens in certain Prince threads as well, there's no need to pay attention to the pictures if you don't like them, since the thread wasn't really devoted to images initially.

They are a problem, because how can we prove that we want to discuss strictly music when people come and flood it with pictures?

nd33 said:

Spinlight said:

It never happens that way because some people feel entitled to make a new thread for every-odd Michael Jackson song. Like that Serious Effect one that is up right now. That foolish thread creator knows damn well its an inappropriate thread cuz it breaks the -current- rules set forth. He knows it full-well but disregards it and even mocks the fact he is disregarding it.

People have no respect and then wonder why crotchety grumps like me rag on them.

I may be misinterpreting you, but it sounds like you don't like threads about individual songs?

There are 15 threads on the first page of "Music-Non Prince" about individual songs. It's a VERY common thread genesis.

Right, but right at this moment the rule is for MJ shit to be in the sticky. The blatant disregard of said rule is an indication that were the rule to change and be more lenient, they would continue to abuse said rules.

Spinlight said:

nd33 said:

I may be misinterpreting you, but it sounds like you don't like threads about individual songs?

There are 15 threads on the first page of "Music-Non Prince" about individual songs. It's a VERY common thread genesis.

Right, but right at this moment the rule is for MJ shit to be in the sticky. The blatant disregard of said rule is an indication that were the rule to change and be more lenient, they would continue to abuse said rules.

...Which is why we still have a sticky.

Spinlight said:

electricberet said:

What if the mods created a separate forum for MJ-related discussion? Then there could be multiple MJ-related threads that wouldn't have to be locked or redirected to a sticky. That is, assuming that threads do start to proliferate if the sticky is locked.

Dude, forget it. Not gonna happen. Nor should it. Those douchebags should leave the org and find a fucking MJ forum to spam their crap in. Takes the soul right out of the artist and their music, puts all the focus on their retarded insistance on polluting the site with myriad threads. They don't respect the nature of the site and, thus, don't respect those of us who would prefer the sticky go away and that everyone keeps their shit in check.

It's morons like that that cause the sticky to stay around. They not only piss the mods off, but they piss off MJ fans who aren't as oblivious and numb-skulled as them.

exactly. we should have a locked sticky that no-one can post in that points to wacko.org

way too much lieniency has been given to wackjob fanatics on this site and they have been taking the piss for too long. thank fuck the cunt is dead as that at least reduces some of the possibility of new shit being posted

unique said:

Spinlight said:

Dude, forget it. Not gonna happen. Nor should it. Those douchebags should leave the org and find a fucking MJ forum to spam their crap in. Takes the soul right out of the artist and their music, puts all the focus on their retarded insistance on polluting the site with myriad threads. They don't respect the nature of the site and, thus, don't respect those of us who would prefer the sticky go away and that everyone keeps their shit in check.

It's morons like that that cause the sticky to stay around. They not only piss the mods off, but they piss off MJ fans who aren't as oblivious and numb-skulled as them.

exactly. we should have a locked sticky that no-one can post in that points to wacko.org

way too much lieniency has been given to wackjob fanatics on this site and they have been taking the piss for too long. thank fuck the cunt is dead as that at least reduces some of the possibility of new shit being posted

Chip on shoulder much?

nd33 said:

unique said:

exactly. we should have a locked sticky that no-one can post in that points to wacko.org

way too much lieniency has been given to wackjob fanatics on this site and they have been taking the piss for too long. thank fuck the cunt is dead as that at least reduces some of the possibility of new shit being posted

Chip on shoulder much?

no, why would you say that?

it's a prince site, for prince fans. for discussing prince. it's not a michel jackass site, for michael jackass fans, for discussing michael jackass

there are plenty of michael jackass sites for michael jackass fans to discuss michael jackass

so it's only normal for members of a particular forum to want to keep that particular forum on topic, and ask those who not only want to discuss off topic issues, but spoil the forum with the shite they post, to fuck off to another site and do it elsewhere where their postings will be both on topic and appreciated by the other members

there is absolutely no need for all the shit on this site. none

unique said:

nd33 said:

Chip on shoulder much?

no, why would you say that?

it's a prince site, for prince fans. for discussing prince. it's not a michel jackass site, for michael jackass fans, for discussing michael jackass

there are plenty of michael jackass sites for michael jackass fans to discuss michael jackass

so it's only normal for members of a particular forum to want to keep that particular forum on topic, and ask those who not only want to discuss off topic issues, but spoil the forum with the shite they post, to fuck off to another site and do it elsewhere where their postings will be both on topic and appreciated by the other members

there is absolutely no need for all the shit on this site. none

Ummm....

It's the NON-Prince Music forum.

You see, this musician you call Michael Jackass, is NOT Prince. That's why he comes up in the NON-Prince Music forum.

I could probably explain this a bit clearer to you, but I'm cooking.

smoothcriminal12 said:

Emancipation89 said:

Pictures are not that big of a deal imo. Some people post pictures, some people have nothing to contribute to the thread but complain about images flooding, but people who like to discuss the music WILL discuss the music. The same happens in certain Prince threads as well, there's no need to pay attention to the pictures if you don't like them, since the thread wasn't really devoted to images initially.

They are a problem, because how can we prove that we want to discuss strictly music when people come and flood it with pictures?

What do we exactly have to prove? Don't you think if we were to get rid of MJ sticky, the same rule that applies to Madonna Janet Jackson Gaga threads which is practically allowing any photo/news/gossip thread of them, should be applied to MJ?

At the end of the day though, I actually like the sticky. If we were to get rid of the sticky I'm sure Prince fans who can't stand Michael will constantly complain about how there are too many MJ threads(which I understand), but not only that, I can see some of them creating some serious hate thread and purposely flame MJ fans, on both Music;Non Prince & P:M&M sub-forums, you know, just for fun. Never I've seen a MJ thread created on Prince;m&m forum that didn't have pedophile comments, surgery jokes etc. You expect serious music discussion from whom exactly? If you think MJ fans who love to post pictures of him are the main reason why we can't get rid of the sticky, you're mistaken.

Honestly the way OldFriends4sale is taking care of MJ threads is as good as it gets imo(thanks for not locking the Thriller thread).

nd33 said:

unique said:

no, why would you say that?

it's a prince site, for prince fans. for discussing prince. it's not a michel jackass site, for michael jackass fans, for discussing michael jackass

there are plenty of michael jackass sites for michael jackass fans to discuss michael jackass

so it's only normal for members of a particular forum to want to keep that particular forum on topic, and ask those who not only want to discuss off topic issues, but spoil the forum with the shite they post, to fuck off to another site and do it elsewhere where their postings will be both on topic and appreciated by the other members

there is absolutely no need for all the shit on this site. none

Ummm....

It's the NON-Prince Music forum.

You see, this musician you call Michael Jackass, is NOT Prince. That's why he comes up in the NON-Prince Music forum.

I could probably explain this a bit clearer to you, but I'm cooking.

that's right. it's a non prince music forum. not a fucking whackjob forum. that's why there is a sticky, to keep the fucking whackjob fans at bay. but they shouldn't be here in the first place if their primary goal is to chat about another artist so much

there isn't the same level of shite from any other artist, which is why there isn't any dispute over other artists

unique said:

nd33 said:

Ummm....

It's the NON-Prince Music forum.

You see, this musician you call Michael Jackass, is NOT Prince. That's why he comes up in the NON-Prince Music forum.

I could probably explain this a bit clearer to you, but I'm cooking.

that's right. it's a non prince music forum. not a fucking whackjob forum. that's why there is a sticky, to keep the fucking whackjob fans at bay. but they shouldn't be here in the first place if their primary goal is to chat about another artist so much

there isn't the same level of shite from any other artist, which is why there isn't any dispute over other artists

Sure...all THEM whackjobs eh?!

nd33 said:

unique said:

that's right. it's a non prince music forum. not a fucking whackjob forum. that's why there is a sticky, to keep the fucking whackjob fans at bay. but they shouldn't be here in the first place if their primary goal is to chat about another artist so much

there isn't the same level of shite from any other artist, which is why there isn't any dispute over other artists

Sure...all THEM whackjobs eh?!

yup

There shouldn't be any rule against posting MJ threads anywhere on here. If they're popular on the Prince site, then so be it, because like it or not, it is a reflection of the pop culture climate and is relevant.

The worst thing that can happen on this site is moderation that is completely off base and opposite to the ideology of an artist's body of work employs a full expression of profane and sanctimonious and hits all varieties of genre and themes.

Make the site reflect that.

The only threads that should be blocked are those that threaten other members in a serious manner. Like a death threat. Freedom of speech should be upheld here as much as possible. This should not be like North Korea media.

I think you shouldn't even censor the insults much less the crazy threads. Let it all be free to reflect reality and the different mind sets that visit here. I've noticed moderators sometimes blocking threads that are completely on point about some part of Prince world, just because the moderator is ignorant of that aspect of Prince's work or persona. That's a shame.

And good god, don't try to make a Prince site family friendly! Prince's biggest album is the reason there are parental warnings. He features full frontal female nudity on the music video to I Want to Melt With You. Let that shit fly here too.

ufoclub said:

There shouldn't be any rule against posting MJ threads anywhere on here. If they're popular on the Prince site, then so be it, because like it or not, it is a reflection of the pop culture climate and is relevant.

The worst thing that can happen on this site is moderation that is completely off base and opposite to the ideology of an artist's body of work employs a full expression of profane and sanctimonious and hits all varieties of genre and themes.

Make the site reflect that.

The only threads that should be blocked are those that threaten other members in a serious manner. Like a death threat. Freedom of speech should be upheld here as much as possible. This should not be like North Korea media.

I think you shouldn't even censor the insults much less the crazy threads. Let it all be free to reflect reality and the different mind sets that visit here. I've noticed moderators sometimes blocking threads that are completely on point about some part of Prince world, just because the moderator is ignorant of that aspect of Prince's work or persona. That's a shame.

And good god, don't try to make a Prince site family friendly! Prince's biggest album is the reason there are parental warnings. He features full frontal female nudity on the music video to I Want to Melt With You. Let that shit fly here too.

no

because if you look at less moderated sites they are a fucking mess, and people don't stick around at sites like that. this site has been going succesfully since the 90s with people visiting every day since then, and that's because of the jobs the moderators do in keeping the site relatively free from complete shite, but allowing a fair degree of posting freedom. no-one is suggesting it should be a familyy friendly site

ufoclub said:

There shouldn't be any rule against posting MJ threads anywhere on here. If they're popular on the Prince site, then so be it, because like it or not, it is a reflection of the pop culture climate and is relevant.

The worst thing that can happen on this site is moderation that is completely off base and opposite to the ideology of an artist's body of work employs a full expression of profane and sanctimonious and hits all varieties of genre and themes.

Make the site reflect that.

The only threads that should be blocked are those that threaten other members in a serious manner. Like a death threat. Freedom of speech should be upheld here as much as possible. This should not be like North Korea media.

I think you shouldn't even censor the insults much less the crazy threads. Let it all be free to reflect reality and the different mind sets that visit here. I've noticed moderators sometimes blocking threads that are completely on point about some part of Prince world, just because the moderator is ignorant of that aspect of Prince's work or persona. That's a shame.

And good god, don't try to make a Prince site family friendly! Prince's biggest album is the reason there are parental warnings. He features full frontal female nudity on the music video to I Want to Melt With You. Let that shit fly here too.

No disrespect, but what world do you live in that people can say whatever they want to say, what home were u raised in that you could say whatever you wanted to say, what job do you have or have worked on where you could say whatever you wanted to say.

Go walk down a street and say whatever you want to say and then tell me what happened to you.

Nothing is Free man there is a price for freedom continually.

Go watch you're nudity somewhere else.

unique said:

ufoclub said:

There shouldn't be any rule against posting MJ threads anywhere on here. If they're popular on the Prince site, then so be it, because like it or not, it is a reflection of the pop culture climate and is relevant.

The worst thing that can happen on this site is moderation that is completely off base and opposite to the ideology of an artist's body of work employs a full expression of profane and sanctimonious and hits all varieties of genre and themes.

Make the site reflect that.

The only threads that should be blocked are those that threaten other members in a serious manner. Like a death threat. Freedom of speech should be upheld here as much as possible. This should not be like North Korea media.

I think you shouldn't even censor the insults much less the crazy threads. Let it all be free to reflect reality and the different mind sets that visit here. I've noticed moderators sometimes blocking threads that are completely on point about some part of Prince world, just because the moderator is ignorant of that aspect of Prince's work or persona. That's a shame.

And good god, don't try to make a Prince site family friendly! Prince's biggest album is the reason there are parental warnings. He features full frontal female nudity on the music video to I Want to Melt With You. Let that shit fly here too.

no

because if you look at less moderated sites they are a fucking mess, and people don't stick around at sites like that. this site has been going succesfully since the 90s with people visiting every day since then, and that's because of the jobs the moderators do in keeping the site relatively free from complete shite, but allowing a fair degree of posting freedom. no-one is suggesting it should be a familyy friendly site

One of the most successful fandom site in the world, Aint it Cool News (which has so much traffic that the Hollywood industry includes them in their official marketing startegies) practices exactly what I'm talking about in their "talkbacks". They don't moderate anything unless it involves something illegal or concerns literal death or spamming. They in no way judge whether an insult or complete off topic post should be deleted. They even retain completely venemous attacks on the founder and writers of the site (barbs at their appearance and even wishes that they would drop dead are kept published). The site has it's share of people complaining about a decline, but that barometer is more judged by the quality of news and photos coming in (it does operate differently, more like magazine with free for all comment sections after each article). The chaotic stinging freedom in the talkbacks is actually admired by a lot of people.

Prince.org has seen many of it's serious contributors of photos, bootleg news, Prince stories, and members that seek out real interviews leave in the last couple of years. There are new places and ways of fandom connection developing. Some of these people still have their profiles here and visit, but I know that many only come to look, amd many don't come at all. Housequake.com used to be a twin factor that attracted quality participation that in some ways would also affect and bleed to this site postitively. It's too bad that it shut down (although it's facebook presence is growing) because of irritation with Prince's policing of it.

I have seen a lot of posts here snipped or locked with the statement "this is a family site, or no explicit content". This didn't used to be the case a few years ago, and I've been posting here since 1998 (under a different name back then). The x rated threads made this place cool too. Explicit content freedom is one of the reasons I originally respected Prince.

The intention of control of many based on individual judgements on morality, relevance, and value can be one of the most common misteps of social/political/institutional systems often resulting in bureaucracy and policing that harms and goes against the grain of the original intention or ideology of the founders. Of course this is just a Prince fan site so it's not serious enough to lose any sleep over. And I'm posting on here just to express myself, not because I'm pulling hair and worried. I just think it's fascinating that it does feel like a funny model for important things like a school or government, or the stereotype of U.S. policing vs North Korea policing based on ideas of what is good.

But to get back to subject, I don't see any harm in letting MJ threads grow and die on their own wherever. It's part of Prince's pop arena. It doesn't matter if a few people don't like it. It's good to have things that some people don't like.

ufoclub said:

unique said:

no

because if you look at less moderated sites they are a fucking mess, and people don't stick around at sites like that. this site has been going succesfully since the 90s with people visiting every day since then, and that's because of the jobs the moderators do in keeping the site relatively free from complete shite, but allowing a fair degree of posting freedom. no-one is suggesting it should be a familyy friendly site

One of the most successful fandom site in the world, Aint it Cool News (which has so much traffic that the Hollywood industry includes them in their official marketing startegies) practices exactly what I'm talking about in their "talkbacks". They don't moderate anything unless it involves something illegal or concerns literal death or spamming. They in no way judge whether an insult or complete off topic post should be deleted. They even retain completely venemous attacks on the founder and writers of the site (barbs at their appearance and even wishes that they would drop dead are kept published). The site has it's share of people complaining about a decline, but that barometer is more judged by the quality of news and photos coming in (it does operate differently, more like magazine with free for all comment sections after each article). The chaotic stinging freedom in the talkbacks is actually admired by a lot of people.

Prince.org has seen many of it's serious contributors of photos, bootleg news, Prince stories, and members that seek out real interviews leave in the last couple of years. There are new places and ways of fandom connection developing. Some of these people still have their profiles here and visit, but I know that many only come to look, amd many don't come at all. Housequake.com used to be a twin factor that attracted quality participation that in some ways would also affect and bleed to this site postitively. It's too bad that it shut down (although it's facebook presence is growing) because of irritation with Prince's policing of it.

I have seen a lot of posts here snipped or locked with the statement "this is a family site, or no explicit content". This didn't used to be the case a few years ago, and I've been posting here since 1998 (under a different name back then). The x rated threads made this place cool too. Explicit content freedom is one of the reasons I originally respected Prince.

The intention of control of many based on individual judgements on morality, relevance, and value can be one of the most common misteps of social/political/institutional systems often resulting in bureaucracy and policing that harms and goes against the grain of the original intention or ideology of the founders. Of course this is just a Prince fan site so it's not serious enough to lose any sleep over. And I'm posting on here just to express myself, not because I'm pulling hair and worried. I just think it's fascinating that it does feel like a funny model for important things like a school or government, or the stereotype of U.S. policing vs North Korea policing based on ideas of what is good.

But to get back to subject, I don't see any harm in letting MJ threads grow and die on their own wherever. It's part of Prince's pop arena. It doesn't matter if a few people don't like it. It's good to have things that some people don't like.

Everything changes.

Where I work in the 1970's and early 80's they used to have an open bar in the Staff areas. I worked at the public library, they don't/can't do that anymore.

But men can come in and use the computers and look at porn, children get access to it.

There are people here under 18, for this site to have x rated images or nudity would mean it would have to go thru a disclaimer and mostly likely have people prove their ages to join. Or create restricted forums and it just get's way to out of hand. And it would fall back on Ben.

Also Housequake was shut down for particular reasons. The freedom we supposedly want or have here is depending upon certain 'do's & do not's'

I'm not a big MJ fan, so does anyone know if there is/are any official Michael Jackson websites or MJ sites like the Prince.org?

No offense to any big MJ fan... i mean i like him.

But there are new threads about The Jacksons him, the band or Janet once a day or every other day i mean this is becoming prince.MJ.org

OldFriends4Sale said:

ufoclub said:

One of the most successful fandom site in the world, Aint it Cool News (which has so much traffic that the Hollywood industry includes them in their official marketing startegies) practices exactly what I'm talking about in their "talkbacks". They don't moderate anything unless it involves something illegal or concerns literal death or spamming. They in no way judge whether an insult or complete off topic post should be deleted. They even retain completely venemous attacks on the founder and writers of the site (barbs at their appearance and even wishes that they would drop dead are kept published). The site has it's share of people complaining about a decline, but that barometer is more judged by the quality of news and photos coming in (it does operate differently, more like magazine with free for all comment sections after each article). The chaotic stinging freedom in the talkbacks is actually admired by a lot of people.

Prince.org has seen many of it's serious contributors of photos, bootleg news, Prince stories, and members that seek out real interviews leave in the last couple of years. There are new places and ways of fandom connection developing. Some of these people still have their profiles here and visit, but I know that many only come to look, amd many don't come at all. Housequake.com used to be a twin factor that attracted quality participation that in some ways would also affect and bleed to this site postitively. It's too bad that it shut down (although it's facebook presence is growing) because of irritation with Prince's policing of it.

I have seen a lot of posts here snipped or locked with the statement "this is a family site, or no explicit content". This didn't used to be the case a few years ago, and I've been posting here since 1998 (under a different name back then). The x rated threads made this place cool too. Explicit content freedom is one of the reasons I originally respected Prince.

The intention of control of many based on individual judgements on morality, relevance, and value can be one of the most common misteps of social/political/institutional systems often resulting in bureaucracy and policing that harms and goes against the grain of the original intention or ideology of the founders. Of course this is just a Prince fan site so it's not serious enough to lose any sleep over. And I'm posting on here just to express myself, not because I'm pulling hair and worried. I just think it's fascinating that it does feel like a funny model for important things like a school or government, or the stereotype of U.S. policing vs North Korea policing based on ideas of what is good.

But to get back to subject, I don't see any harm in letting MJ threads grow and die on their own wherever. It's part of Prince's pop arena. It doesn't matter if a few people don't like it. It's good to have things that some people don't like.

Everything changes.

Where I work in the 1970's and early 80's they used to have an open bar in the Staff areas. I worked at the public library, they don't/can't do that anymore.

But men can come in and use the computers and look at porn, children get access to it.

There are people here under 18, for this site to have x rated images or nudity would mean it would have to go thru a disclaimer and mostly likely have people prove their ages to join. Or create restricted forums and it just get's way to out of hand. And it would fall back on Ben.

Also Housequake was shut down for particular reasons. The freedom we supposedly want or have here is depending upon certain 'do's & do not's'

From my knowledge, Housequake was shut down by the owner, not because Prince shut it down or any specific legality. The owner got pissed off at the sanctions and threats from Prince's camp about details that were not within Prince's true rights to insist on and the owner shut down the site because it was not fun for him to anymore to jump through hoops.

Gunsnhalen said:

No offense to any big MJ fan... i mean i like him.

But there are new threads about The Jacksons him, the band or Janet once a day or every other day i mean this is becoming prince.MJ.org

I've always seen a few MJ threads on Prince sites like AMP, Housequake, or here. There's much less now that Jackson is gone. That's always been part of Prince's world. Even in 1988, the New York Times ran a comparison of the two and their current concerts with side by side photos. That's the New York Times.

It's quite legit to have some MJ content here. It does not bug any large percentage of people on here from what I can tell.

ufoclub said:

Gunsnhalen said:

No offense to any big MJ fan... i mean i like him.

But there are new threads about The Jacksons him, the band or Janet once a day or every other day i mean this is becoming prince.MJ.org

I've always seen a few MJ threads on Prince sites like AMP, Housequake, or here. There's much less now that Jackson is gone. That's always been part of Prince's world. Even in 1988, the New York Times ran a comparison of the two and their current concerts with side by side photos. That's the New York Times.

It's quite legit to have some MJ content here. It does not bug any large percentage of people on here from what I can tell.

eh, actually a lot of people here have complained about it. Because it is becoming MJ.org sometimes......

I don't mind that, but between that and the Madonna threads. There's just way to many... right now there's the Mj sticky, MJ Thriller, a janet thread, a MJ in the closet thread, and 2 Jackson 5 threads.. all on the first page

Gunsnhalen said:

No offense to any big MJ fan... i mean i like him.

But there are new threads about The Jacksons him, the band or Janet once a day or every other day i mean this is becoming prince.MJ.org

Well, almost all the threads in the General Discussion forum are about sex and relationships, even though that's not the title of the forum. You can't control what people want to talk about. The fact is that, for those who were around in the mid-1980s, the Prince versus MJ comparison was always a subject of conversation. That's why I think a separate forum for MJ-related discussion might be good. Let the MJ fans and MJ haters go in there and have it out. I've never been particularly interested in Michael Jackson but the sticky rule seems to do more harm than good, leading to threads being shut down about topics like "who is this generation's Michael Jackson" that really have nothing to do with him.

OldFriends4Sale said:

I'm not a big MJ fan, so does anyone know if there is/are any official Michael Jackson websites or MJ sites like the Prince.org?

DEFINITELY.

Gunsnhalen said:

ufoclub said:

I've always seen a few MJ threads on Prince sites like AMP, Housequake, or here. There's much less now that Jackson is gone. That's always been part of Prince's world. Even in 1988, the New York Times ran a comparison of the two and their current concerts with side by side photos. That's the New York Times.

It's quite legit to have some MJ content here. It does not bug any large percentage of people on here from what I can tell.

eh, actually a lot of people here have complained about it. Because it is becoming MJ.org sometimes......

I don't mind that, but between that and the Madonna threads. There's just way to many... right now there's the Mj sticky, MJ Thriller, a janet thread, a MJ in the closet thread, and 2 Jackson 5 threads.. all on the first page

Yep.

I've been thinking about this alot and it had nothing to do with my Thriller thread it had a good run so I'm cool with that. My point is that Prince and Michael will forever be linked because they are two black male superstars who came into their own around the same time in history. Yes this is a Prince site, but I feel like to keep pushing MJ into a sticky is so disrespectful! Regardless of what people may feel about him-he IS THE BEST ENTERTAINER TO EVER LIVE. Prince is THE BEST MUSICIAN TO EVER LIVE. Folks can take from that what they want, but it's true. Another viewpoint is that threads about Madonna, of course Beyonce, Elton, Gaga, George Michael and Whitney are created daily round here abd their life's work is not disrespected by bundling them up into a damn sticky. When Prince dies I would hope that folks on other sites would not disrespect his memory by doing that either. Looking at this site, regardless of the consensus there are more threads about Madonna and Beyonce than Michael and Prince. All I'm saying is be fair about.

Now that I've gotten that out FOR ALL YOU MUHFUCKKAS WHO SECRETLY ASKED FOR MY THRILLER THREAD TO BE LOCKED FUCK YA'LL Back to the discussion

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