rdhull said:

TypoQueen- I sure would appreciate a response to my comments. You made a strong accusation towards me and I think it's the least you can do.

sosgemini said:

Timmy84 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

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I don't think we can use humor anywhere

You're not getting this, are you? It ain't about HUMOR mayne. It's about trying to make sure this board don't always fuck up every time you get on there. It's not always about "fun".

Timmy don't try to school me, I know what everyone is saying, and when U guys get an aswer you'll be happy.

You are WAAAAY too serious, and at that last line? I will say, get ur membership fees back and find a place that will give you what you're looking for.

WAYYYY too serious, it's a Prince.org site, it is about fun

rdhull said:

TypoQueen said:

It is obvious the owner of the website is happy with the moderation team. An ex moderator voicing again against a moderator could come across as vindictive and bitter. The moderating team have a difficult job you can not be liked by all, the new moderators will find this out sooner or later. It is a tough job as no mater what you do you will never please all... Back to my cup of tea Awaits the flame fest...

Oh man cry me a river with this boo hoo-ing of mods not being liked, hardest job ever, no credit, their time shit. They ask to be one. They WANT to be one.

The major thing that sucks is once a member become a mod you see them change after a while

of course people will change, there are people who have a problem for some unknown reason prior to you being a mod and they carry it over

I've had people (before I was a mod) literally sideOrg note me telling me how much they didn't like me, and then when I became a mod, OH BOY it really hit the roof

I don't understand a lot of the person flare ups that can take place here, outside of a general conv/debate, very childish.

Especially the people who skirt right on the edge of the rules or cry why they do break em, it's easy for people to be like that when they are annonymous

TypoQueen said:

rdhull said:

Oh man cry me a river with this boo hoo-ing of mods not being liked, hardest job ever, no credit, their time shit. They ask to be one. They WANT to be one.

The major thing that sucks is once a member become a mod you see them change after a while

:river: It can suck when people change but you kinda expect it as being a mod you got to attempt to sit on fence and not be close to one side or the other or you risk getting acused of taking sides. It's much easier being a mod when no one knows who you are. When you do know people you can become rather torn.

this is true,

Im finding it's better to not be involved in a lot of the discussions because u can win for anything

It's like people think your supposed to be beyond reproach and not have an opinion

But I try to continue to post 'as a member' as well, and any discussion I become a part of I leave any 'moderation' up to another Mod, even if it's me being moderated

TypoQueen said:

sosgemini said:

How so? I've sited examples of the problems we've experienced. Can you please share examples where I am spewing rhetoric without using examples just to be vindictive and bitter?

And why the hell would I be bitter? I resigned as a mod on my own---and how many years ago? I've stayed fairly quit about how poorly certain mods actions are because I know how my comments could be misconstrued but we are talking---what? Seven years now since I stopped being a mod? It's silly to think that my motives are anything but trying to stop the repeated actions that make this place less fun--less fun for everyone.

And, let's not even bring up Ben cause we all know he is not paying attention to the moderation of this site. And none of the other mods dare speak up against this one mod because the don't want to ruffle his/her feathers....so the same stupid crap keeps happening. Can't we all productively find a solution to this mess--without it into war?

[Edited 2/6/12 12:54pm]

I am slow in replying as I am having difficulties with this iPad when Quoting large amounts of text in reply box. Think I've worked it out now... It is well known that you have never got on with this person (we like who we like and all that jazz) you are also well aware when you moderated not all agreed with your style and that you did not enjoy your style being questioned in public. In the past when people have had problems with the moderators, the moderators told everyone to take it up with the website owner. Ben must have decided who the new moderators would be so he must be happy with how the website is run. It is understandable at times why some feel get at and put up defences, maybe a little honey now and then may work wonders to solve problems.

That's a lie! Do I get along with this mod? Sure I do. There is no malice or ill will towards this person or any other persons on this site. This is just about specific actions taken as a moderator that are bat sh*t crazy and everyone knows it. Look at the title of this thread. how the heck do you do something like that?

And your assuming that I have never addressed my concerns in private when in fact I have---repeatedly. And again, let's not kid ourselves, Ben ain't paying attention to this site. We all know that. Others have attempted to do all the things you have outlined in this post and in the end, the end solution has been for people to walk away from this website. How is that fair? Because one person refuses to engage people about the moderation activity, everyone loses?

So, instead of putting up with it for the up-teenth time---I decided to create this thread and point out an example of the crazy behavior that is pretty normal these days. I don't think you can put the owness of this on me and any perceived personal biases when there are two other threads (from other orgers) right now questioning things. I'd post links but links to threads currently don't work.

I really hope this discussion become one about me and my role on this site almost a decade ago. Let's address the examples I have given here and now. Cause we can't go to Ben and the mod in question when they refuse/chose/forced beyond their control prevent them from acknowledging matters.

honeydontworkforthispersonitsbeentriededit...

[Edited 2/6/12 14:21pm]

Speaks volumes when people rather not work it out but rather defend why they do what they do. We need to stop that. All sos is looking for is to figure out how to conversate with each other about why the site seems to malfunction sometimes.

Timmy84 said:

Speaks volumes when people rather not work it out but rather defend why they do what they do. We need to stop that. All sos is looking for is to figure out how to conversate with each other about why the site seems to malfunction sometimes.

that makes no sense

the site malfunction? that's not what Sosgemini is looking 4, Ben already created a thread on that

OldFriends4Sale said:

Timmy84 said:

Speaks volumes when people rather not work it out but rather defend why they do what they do. We need to stop that. All sos is looking for is to figure out how to conversate with each other about why the site seems to malfunction sometimes.

that makes no sense

the site malfunction? that's not what Sosgemini is looking 4, Ben already created a thread on that

Metaphorically speaking...me thinks.

sosgemini said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

that makes no sense

the site malfunction? that's not what Sosgemini is looking 4, Ben already created a thread on that

Metaphorically speaking...me thinks.

If you took that literally OF... I can't say nothing.

THEN AGAIN, there's moments the site actually has been down...

Timmy84 said:

rdhull said:

I understand that staunch and sometimes harsh decisions have to be made whicih could change relationship dynamics. That's a given and expected. But some folks little by little begin to TRIP.

I just wish the posters and mods can work side by side but it seemed as if we're separated for some reason. That's why people have reacted the way they have, they feel there's no other choice but to lash out.

It does seem a bit like a dictatorship, when you go around silencing discussions (locking) that are flowing well and many people have put alot of their time into replying on.

And I speak from the reference point of most of my time being spent in the "Music Non-Prince" and "General Discussion" parts of the forum.

All the non-mod posters on this thread here, I have interacted with in those sections. And for clarity, NONE of the mods here replying in this thread have I ever come across in threads in "Music Non-Prince" and "General Discussion". So while it's great that two mods have responded here, it seems like maybe the message is not getting to the right mod people?

nd33 said:

Timmy84 said:

I just wish the posters and mods can work side by side but it seemed as if we're separated for some reason. That's why people have reacted the way they have, they feel there's no other choice but to lash out.

It does seem a bit like a dictatorship, when you go around silencing discussions (locking) that are flowing well and many people have put alot of their time into replying on.

And I speak from the reference point of most of my time being spent in the "Music Non-Prince" and "General Discussion" parts of the forum.

All the non-mod posters on this thread here, I have interacted with in those sections. And for clarity, NONE of the mods here replying in this thread have I ever come across in threads in "Music Non-Prince" and "General Discussion". So while it's great that two mods have responded here, it seems like maybe the message is not getting to the right mod people?

If they're the wrong folks to wonder about, who is supposed to be the real moderators here?

Timmy84 said:

nd33 said:

It does seem a bit like a dictatorship, when you go around silencing discussions (locking) that are flowing well and many people have put alot of their time into replying on.

And I speak from the reference point of most of my time being spent in the "Music Non-Prince" and "General Discussion" parts of the forum.

All the non-mod posters on this thread here, I have interacted with in those sections. And for clarity, NONE of the mods here replying in this thread have I ever come across in threads in "Music Non-Prince" and "General Discussion". So while it's great that two mods have responded here, it seems like maybe the message is not getting to the right mod people?

If they're the wrong folks to wonder about, who is supposed to be the real moderators here?

Whoah this shits getting deep man!

nd33 said:

Timmy84 said:

If they're the wrong folks to wonder about, who is supposed to be the real moderators here?

Whoah this shits getting deep man!

I'm just saying. You said we may be asking the wrong folks.

Timmy84 said:

nd33 said:

Whoah this shits getting deep man!

I'm just saying. You said we may be asking the wrong folks.

I'm not 100% sure... I've just observed that the mods that have responded in this thread are unfamiliar names to me, yet I'm familiar with the types of behaviours that inpsired this thread in the first place...

Hmmmm.....

Are different mods assigned with different sub-forums to be in charge of moderating?

nd33 said:

Timmy84 said:

I'm just saying. You said we may be asking the wrong folks.

I'm not 100% sure... I've just observed that the mods that have responded in this thread are unfamiliar names to me, yet I'm familiar with the types of behaviours that inpsired this thread in the first place...

Hmmmm.....

Are different mods assigned with different sub-forums to be in charge of moderating?

Yeah though luv and OldFriends are both mods of the non-Prince music section.

nd33 said:

Timmy84 said:

I just wish the posters and mods can work side by side but it seemed as if we're separated for some reason. That's why people have reacted the way they have, they feel there's no other choice but to lash out.

It does seem a bit like a dictatorship, when you go around silencing discussions (locking) that are flowing well and many people have put alot of their time into replying on.

And I speak from the reference point of most of my time being spent in the "Music Non-Prince" and "General Discussion" parts of the forum.

All the non-mod posters on this thread here, I have interacted with in those sections. And for clarity, NONE of the mods here replying in this thread have I ever come across in threads in "Music Non-Prince" and "General Discussion". So while it's great that two mods have responded here, it seems like maybe the message is not getting to the right mod people?

dictatorship is much too much there.

No one is making anyone stay in a group they don't like,

& we are here for free, no one is forcing anyone to take money or time to come here

Some please tell me how many websites out there actually do require a payment and rules to follow. We have choices.

Also what club, whether it be night club or country club that is worth going doesn't have covercharge, or dues, dress code, rules of conduct etc etc

Can you give me an example of a discussion being locked that was just following the rules and was not a duplicate?

Can you give me an example of a discussion being locked that was just following the rules and was not a duplicate?

I actually have a few in mind.

OldFriends4Sale said:

nd33 said:

It does seem a bit like a dictatorship, when you go around silencing discussions (locking) that are flowing well and many people have put alot of their time into replying on.

And I speak from the reference point of most of my time being spent in the "Music Non-Prince" and "General Discussion" parts of the forum.

All the non-mod posters on this thread here, I have interacted with in those sections. And for clarity, NONE of the mods here replying in this thread have I ever come across in threads in "Music Non-Prince" and "General Discussion". So while it's great that two mods have responded here, it seems like maybe the message is not getting to the right mod people?

dictatorship is much too much there.

No one is making anyone stay in a group they don't like,

& we are here for free, no one is forcing anyone to take money or time to come here

Some please tell me how many websites out there actually do require a payment and rules to follow. We have choices.

Also what club, whether it be night club or country club that is worth going doesn't have covercharge, or dues, dress code, rules of conduct etc etc

Can you give me an example of a discussion being locked that was just following the rules and was not a duplicate?

um... the one that this thread was about?

duh.

errant said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

dictatorship is much too much there.

No one is making anyone stay in a group they don't like,

& we are here for free, no one is forcing anyone to take money or time to come here

Some please tell me how many websites out there actually do require a payment and rules to follow. We have choices.

Also what club, whether it be night club or country club that is worth going doesn't have covercharge, or dues, dress code, rules of conduct etc etc

Can you give me an example of a discussion being locked that was just following the rules and was not a duplicate?

um... the one that this thread was about?

duh.

what the hell r u talking about?

I asked ONLY for an example of a discussion thread being locked...

there are a 1000 threads, what's the example??

DUH

OldFriends4Sale said:

errant said:

um... the one that this thread was about?

duh.

what the hell r u talking about?

I asked ONLY for an example of a discussion thread being locked...

there are a 1000 threads, what's the example??

DUH

The one that I originally referenced at the start of this thread. I think that is what errant was sharing with you.

I think it's been a long day for the world. I hope a good night's sleep will allow us to regroup and consider the concerns that many are raising regarding this site. Night night all!

OldFriends4Sale said:

errant said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

what the hell r u talking about?

I asked ONLY for an example of a discussion thread being locked...

there are a 1000 threads, what's the example??

DUH

You don't even know what this thread is about. Did you even bother to read it before you started commenting?

Yeah I do TOTALLY know what you guys are doing

I responded to a PARTICULAR person nd33 about other threads that were closed for other reason than some breaking of rules, or being a duplicate.

So unless your THAT person, don't respond with your history of issues, YOUR not following

From what I've realized about the situation is, the thread the mod redirected people to locked on it's own in that time period.

We have no control on time locked thread situations.

OldFriends4Sale said:

From what I've realized about the situation is, the thread the mod redirected people to locked on it's own in that time period.

We have no control on time locked thread situations.

Nope, the thread was locked on prior to being re-directed. Yes, know one has control over when threads auto-lock but basic common sense would dictate that you don't direct traffic to a locked thread. Just pause for a second and analyse the situation before reacting. If that happened, half the stupid crap that happens would stop. IMHO.

Again, this is primary directed towards one mod who appears unable to such things.

sosgemini said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

From what I've realized about the situation is, the thread the mod redirected people to locked on it's own in that time period.

We have no control on time locked thread situations.

Nope, the thread was locked on prior to being re-directed. Yes, know one has control over when threads auto-lock but basic common sense would dictate that you don't direct traffic to a locked thread. Just pause for a second and analyse the situation before reacting. If that happened, half the stupid crap that happens would stop. IMHO.

Again, this is primary directed towards one mod who appears unable to such things.

well it's obvious that this is a much more 'personal' issue going on here,

I'm not cool at all with any of the members here attacking the Mod, and there seems to be more than just site management issues fueling this fire

errant

Timmy84

rdhull

sosgemini

OldFriends4Sale said:

sosgemini said:

Nope, the thread was locked on prior to being re-directed. Yes, know one has control over when threads auto-lock but basic common sense would dictate that you don't direct traffic to a locked thread. Just pause for a second and analyse the situation before reacting. If that happened, half the stupid crap that happens would stop. IMHO.

Again, this is primary directed towards one mod who appears unable to such things.

well it's obvious that this is a much more 'personal' issue going on here,

I'm not cool at all with any of the members here attacking the Mod, and there seems to be more than just site management issues fueling this fire

errant

Timmy84

rdhull

sosgemini

You're wrong. It's the continued site management issues by this mod that go unresolved year after year on an almost daily basis.

Other than that, no personal complaints against her. But at some point, enough is enough. Do you know how many times this conversation has taken place? Probably not, if you're only looking here and not the various facebook groups and statuses, since the mod in question usually locks or hides the threads about it.