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Reply #60 posted 08/08/07 6:25pm

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Steadwood said:


Don't the mods have their own communication network to discuss any "Problems"...



no comment.


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Reply #61 posted 08/08/07 6:31pm

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sosgemini said:

Steadwood said:


Don't the mods have their own communication network to discuss any "Problems"...



Yes, but some don't always use it...not even when asked to via orgnotes. mad


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Oh Bugger! neutral


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Reply #62 posted 08/08/07 8:02pm

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Sweeny79 said:

I wasn't really gonna jump in on tis but it's kinda bothering me so I guess I'll have my say....


As a rule, during the school year I'm hardly ever here. sad
I'm too busy and or too tired to post more than a handful of times a week or sometimes even a month, but I DO check in at least everyother day during those months and the first place I go when I log in is usually the mod area.
During the summer I'm here quite a bit, I certainly don't "live" here but I am here everyday, and I check the mod area when I get here and through the course of my orging.

My point in saying this is, there is hardly ever anything for me to moderate. It seems all the prolems are instantly fixed the second they occur and I guess my timing is off or something because I'm hardly never the one who gets the request. Most of the "moderating" I've done in the past hs come from personal requests via orgnote from folks asking me to handle a problem, lock a thread, or whatever.


It was my understanding when Ben made us mods, that we would do what we could when we had time when we were logged in, and because there were so many of us, there would be no need to have one mod be online 24/7.


I try to do the best I can, I answer the mod mailing list when I have something to say or when I am asked something. (Even though I wasn't getting it for while, I think it was going to a spam folder or something. confuse )

But honestly, there isn't much for me to do when I'm here. If Ben feels the need to make more mods, well then he knows better than lil old me, but it seems like as it is there isn't much to go around as is.


Just my twocents please don't hurt me. boxed




[b]the amount of time one spends moderating isn't an issue for me (nor do i think its an issue with anyone for that matter). as long as we are keeping up on what's going on (and actively taking part in the discussions and decision making via the mod email list- ) then shoot, spend one day a month or thirty days a month moderating...

the only reason why i brought up how much time certain mods spend moderating is to point out that there might be a need for an additional mod in the prince forum...one person managing the entire prince forum just doesnt sit right with me...viva diversity. (but hey...if ben and folks disagree with me--thats cool by me too...)

and it's not just about responding to mod requests...there's a lot of stuff that goes on that needs to be nipped that folks never report...especially when folks start feeling their is bias in moding...but anyhoo...i best get back to work now.



btw | kinda offtopic: how come luv4u isn't on this thread?
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Let's take a closer look at this, particularily reply #9:


"just to follow up here, june7: logging on to a forum to "preview" things is totally different then being an active member of a forum and understanding the history and flow of things...how are you going to know if someone is a troll or not if you don't know the user's previous behavior? How do you know if a thread is silly or not? Moderating can be very subjective and I think one of the important factors of being a site moderator of a community is that you are actually an active part of that community"

Your perspective is biased beyond belief. Some mods can be here part-time which is OK, but others simply aren't doing their job, and when they are, it's not to your liking.
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Reply #63 posted 08/08/07 8:16pm

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xplnyrslf said:

sosgemini said:



[b]the amount of time one spends moderating isn't an issue for me (nor do i think its an issue with anyone for that matter). as long as we are keeping up on what's going on (and actively taking part in the discussions and decision making via the mod email list- ) then shoot, spend one day a month or thirty days a month moderating...

the only reason why i brought up how much time certain mods spend moderating is to point out that there might be a need for an additional mod in the prince forum...one person managing the entire prince forum just doesnt sit right with me...viva diversity. (but hey...if ben and folks disagree with me--thats cool by me too...)

and it's not just about responding to mod requests...there's a lot of stuff that goes on that needs to be nipped that folks never report...especially when folks start feeling their is bias in moding...but anyhoo...i best get back to work now.



btw | kinda offtopic: how come luv4u isn't on this thread?
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Let's take a closer look at this, particularily reply #9:


"just to follow up here, june7: logging on to a forum to "preview" things is totally different then being an active member of a forum and understanding the history and flow of things...how are you going to know if someone is a troll or not if you don't know the user's previous behavior? How do you know if a thread is silly or not? Moderating can be very subjective and I think one of the important factors of being a site moderator of a community is that you are actually an active part of that community"

Your perspective is biased beyond belief. Some mods can be here part-time which is OK, but others simply aren't doing their job, and when they are, it's not to your liking.


correct...and i then followed up *that* statement with this one:

for the record, i never said there is a problem with having part-time mods. however, there is a problem with having only one active mod in our busiest forum.



btw: that's *not* reply #9 on my puter...but mm-kay. please understand that when i post i usually am tending to my paid job as well so my thoughts aren't 100% spelled out...so don't shoot me if i clarify my idea by editing...or by following up in a new post.

but, i've been fairly consistent...i told june7 i don't have a problem with part-time mods, but...folks can't kid themselves: if they arent an active member of a community they will *not* have a deep knowledge of what's going on. that is why i am advocating for a more balanced approach (i.e...add more mods to the prince forum...as well as allow other mods opportunities to mod so there is a diversity in the decision making).
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Reply #64 posted 08/08/07 8:16pm

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Sosgemini said and I quote:

"the only reason why i brought up how much time certain mods spend moderating is to point out that there might be a need for an additional mod in the prince forum."

ALL you needed to say, as a separate forum topic, in site discussion: "I think we need more moderators in a few of the forums".
You'd have positive input, volunteers, ideas on the subject.....
This was supposed to be a +++++ thread. What made it not so positive is your negativity. And negativity generates more negativity.

By the way, this was supposed to be about "silly threads".
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Reply #65 posted 08/08/07 8:24pm

Imago

Why am I not a mod yet?



When I'm a mod, yall won't be allowed to disagree cause I'm all about the harmony folks! no no no!


All about the harmony.
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Reply #66 posted 08/08/07 8:24pm

xplnyrslf

sosgemini said:[quote]

xplnyrslf said:



correct...and i then followed up *that* statement with this one:

for the record, i never said there is a problem with having part-time mods. however, there is a problem with having only one active mod in our busiest forum.



btw: that's *not* reply #9 on my puter...but mm-kay. please understand that when i post i usually am tending to my paid job as well so my thoughts aren't 100% spelled out...so don't shoot me if i clarify my idea by editing...or by following up in a new post.

but, i've been fairly consistent...i told june7 i don't have a problem with part-time mods, but...folks can't kid themselves: if they arent an active member of a community they will *not* have a deep knowledge of what's going on. that is why i am advocating for a more balanced approach (i.e...add more mods to the prince forum...as well as allow other mods opportunities to mod so there is a diversity in the decision making).
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I copied and pasted that from reply #9(?). I re-checked.....

deep knowledge.....is that where rocket science comes in? lol
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Reply #67 posted 08/08/07 8:29pm

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Imago said:

Why am I not a mod yet?



When I'm a mod, yall won't be allowed to disagree cause I'm all about the harmony folks! no no no!


All about the harmony.



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Reply #68 posted 08/08/07 8:29pm

xplnyrslf

Imago said:

Why am I not a mod yet?



When I'm a mod, yall won't be allowed to disagree cause I'm all about the harmony folks! no no no!


All about the harmony.


Aren't you supposed to be making popcorn right about now?????
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Reply #69 posted 08/08/07 8:30pm

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xplnyrslf said:

sosgemini said:



btw: that's *not* reply #9 on my puter...but mm-kay. please understand that when i post i usually am tending to my paid job as well so my thoughts aren't 100% spelled out...so don't shoot me if i clarify my idea by editing...or by following up in a new post.

but, i've been fairly consistent...i told june7 i don't have a problem with part-time mods, but...folks can't kid themselves: if they arent an active member of a community they will *not* have a deep knowledge of what's going on. that is why i am advocating for a more balanced approach (i.e...add more mods to the prince forum...as well as allow other mods opportunities to mod so there is a diversity in the decision making).
[Edited 8/8/07 20:17pm]



I copied and pasted that from reply #9(?). I re-checked.....

deep knowledge.....is that where rocket science comes in? lol



ahhh..found out what it is...do me a favor, reply to this post but before you do note the number sequence in the reply...it reverses it...so what is post 8 showed up as post 56 (or something like that) when i checked it.

so yeah...your a rocket scientist...

would you like to make fun of my spelling now? isn't that what usually comes next?
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Reply #70 posted 08/08/07 8:33pm

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Ok just to recap...

Another mod is needed in Prince and more because many of us mods are not here all that often and the ones that choose to be here for a large bulk of their day are over worked.

ok got it, we can all stop argueing now. beg

What does Ben have to say about all this, because it is his decision not ours.
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Reply #71 posted 08/08/07 8:34pm

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xplnyrslf said:

Sosgemini said and I quote:

"the only reason why i brought up how much time certain mods spend moderating is to point out that there might be a need for an additional mod in the prince forum."

ALL you needed to say, as a separate forum topic, in site discussion: "I think we need more moderators in a few of the forums".
You'd have positive input, volunteers, ideas on the subject.....
This was supposed to be a +++++ thread. What made it not so positive is your negativity. And negativity generates more negativity.

By the way, this was supposed to be about "silly threads".
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you really hate when there is a natural flow to threads don't you? the transition IMHO was warranted...i responded to a legitimate comment that june7 made...we had a discussion...why you seem to feel its negative is beyond me...yi get the impression you want june7 and i to put razor blades and vasaline on and duke it out but ya know what? just because we disagree it doesn't mean we hate each other or that this conversation is negative...sorry to ruin your wetdream.
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Reply #72 posted 08/08/07 8:36pm

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Sweeny79 said:

Ok just to recap...

Another mod is needed in Prince and more because many of us mods are not here all that often and the ones that choose to be here for a large bulk of their day are over worked.

ok got it, we can all stop argueing now. beg

What does Ben have to say about all this, because it is his decision not ours.


i think carrie is going to post a recap of this thread in the mod-email list so that we can discuss the matter in private...that's what she said earlier today.
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Reply #73 posted 08/08/07 8:37pm

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sosgemini said:

Sweeny79 said:

Ok just to recap...

Another mod is needed in Prince and more because many of us mods are not here all that often and the ones that choose to be here for a large bulk of their day are over worked.

ok got it, we can all stop argueing now. beg

What does Ben have to say about all this, because it is his decision not ours.


i think carrie is going to post a recap of this thread in the mod-email list so that we can discuss the matter in private...that's what she said earlier today.



Good. woot!

Someone should lock this thread down then, as it can't be heading anywhere good.

peace
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Reply #74 posted 08/08/07 8:40pm

Imago

This thread has divided us all worse than my "Tony M. is a Good rapper" threads ever did.
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Reply #75 posted 08/08/07 8:45pm

xplnyrslf

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Don't the mods have their own communication network to discuss any "Problems"...

...With all respect...cos I know it's voluntary...

... but open discussion isn't of the greatest respect to each other nor is it professional...

...You all do a great job...

...each in different ways


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I agree one million per cent with you.
Conference call, maybe?
There are some topics that are "management" and shouldn't involve members.
Particularily, mods perspective of other mods.
Nonprofessional, poor judgement, lack of consideration..... sad
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Reply #76 posted 08/08/07 8:49pm

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xplnyrslf said:

Steadwood said:


Don't the mods have their own communication network to discuss any "Problems"...

...With all respect...cos I know it's voluntary...

... but open discussion isn't of the greatest respect to each other nor is it professional...

...You all do a great job...

...each in different ways


smile


I agree one million per cent with you.
Conference call, maybe?
There are some topics that are "management" and shouldn't involve members.
Particularily, mods perspective of other mods.
Nonprofessional, poor judgement, lack of consideration..... sad



your right...thats why mods need to actually participate in the off the board email discussion. but some choose not too...which is equally unfair.
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Reply #77 posted 08/08/07 8:52pm

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sosgemini said:

xplnyrslf said:




I copied and pasted that from reply #9(?). I re-checked.....

deep knowledge.....is that where rocket science comes in? lol



ahhh..found out what it is...do me a favor, reply to this post but before you do note the number sequence in the reply...it reverses it...so what is post 8 showed up as post 56 (or something like that) when i checked it.

so yeah...your a rocket scientist...

would you like to make fun of my spelling now? isn't that what usually comes next?


I counted from the top, with my fingers. They're trust worthy....
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Reply #78 posted 08/08/07 8:53pm

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Sweeny79 said:

sosgemini said:



i think carrie is going to post a recap of this thread in the mod-email list so that we can discuss the matter in private...that's what she said earlier today.



Good. woot!

Someone should lock this thread down then, as it can't be heading anywhere good.

peace


And with tha I will.

I'll try to send the summary and next steps tomorrow - had a long day today.

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