It seems that one of the Orgers who was banned is back. I will not mention any names, but this person has said a lot of really hateful shit towards gays. What do you have to say about us that would be deemed hateful enough to not be allowed to come back?

What are you ragging about you lesbo?! Take your judgement in style

Actually, you're asking a really good question.

be incompetent enough to not be able to open another account

origmnd said:

we ban them once they "out" themselves....sometimes it takes some time though cause we have to be 100% sure....

sosgemini said:

Well, this guy was banned and now he's back.

some sites give you the great honour and privlege of blocking your ip address

Stymie said:

I think it might have been a warning instead of a complete ban. You know, give em a week and then let em back to see if they behave. In some ways i think it's good to keep the buffoons around so they can keep making fools of themselves. It's when it becomes divisive for this community as a whole that I think they should get their asses booted.

sosgemini said:

When I notified the moderators of one banned member being back on the site (banned and not simply deactivated) I was told that generally they're allowed to stay unless they fuck up again.

Teacher said:

was that me who said that? there have been a couple instances where i have been notified about a banned orger returning....i refered it to the other mods because i wasnt familiar with the person thus not able to peg their posting style...

and we actually talked about this in private and i do believe we all agreed that a banned orger should stay banned....

i would apply the "fuck up" as them getting "outed" or breaking site rules again..

sosgemini said:

http://www.prince.org/msg/3/150973

hey..good to see we are consistent...

criticize Olivia Newton Johns performance in Xanadu

Tom said:

BA-fuggin-ANNED!!!

Anxiety said:

Anxiety said:

Just so you know Anxiety Olivia is cool with Legs as you know. We're probably the few on the org that admits to liking Xanadu.
[Edited 7/14/05 14:24pm]

sosgemini said:

Yes, it was you who said that I believe, in regards to JustKelleys return to the site under another name. For my two cents I think that what she did to another Orger, threaten to use their personal info in one way or another, is severe enough to warrant a permanent ban, but then I'm not a moderator, and I'm not Ben.


Regarding Anxiety's point that if they behave the second time around then it doesn't matter who they were, well in the instance I'm talking about it might certainly make the threatened Orger uncomfortable and they might still feel threatened. In the instance Stymie's talking about, it makes some of the gay Orgers (who're quite a few) upset. So I think it DOES matter who they were before. It matters a lot.

Teacher said:

1: this situation here (which lead to stymie creating this thread) was not a returning banned orger....this person was put on suspension...i just want to make sure that everyone understands we are dealing with two different situations...

issue 2: yes, i reported to the other mods that a returned mod who was suspended had come back....im assuming that either nobody could comfirm it or that all the other mods just kinda glossed over my request not wanting to get involved.....and sometimes the mod portal just doesnt work and communications are not recieved for months...just the other day it returned from a couple month long absense....

sosgemini said:

1. I understand the difference, that's why I wrote "banned and not simply deactivated" in my first post.

2. Insofar as I know (which is only circumstantial of course since I'm not a mod) this Orger was banned and not just deactivated. If that could be cleared up I'd be a lot happier whichever way.

Teacher said:

I just wanted to clear up my previous comments - if a banned person comes back to the Org under a new username, and they're tech savvy enough that we're not able to identify this person, AND if this person, under their new username, behaves by site rules by the letter, then I'm not going to consider banning them unless I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that this new user is someone who has been banned in the past and should remain banned.

As for the situation Stymie is talking about, I don't know exactly what's gone on in the past, but let us suffice to say that as of now, the situation is taken care of.

Anxiety said:

Good job

While there are certain orgers (or orger) that I'd like to never see back, some people spend way too much time thinking and worrying about this shit. Like it's their personal crusade.

GrayKing said:

To think you can ban a person is naive anyway. You might be able to ban an account, but you can't ban the person behind it. That's why I think banning is silly.

GrayKing said:

there are certain people that really caused a lot of ruckus but I would be all for a banned orger reunion party

must say, thanks to the mods, the racist stuff is under control in P&R... i was about ready to quit this joint.

Can we ban 2the9s again?

AsianBomb777 said:

That's a great idea.

JoeyMFinCoco said:

It's not silly at all, and here's why:

There is certain behavior (constant personal attacks, racism, etc.) that will get an account banned. Sure, that person can set up another account, but if he or she engages in the same behavior again, that account will also be banned. The banning policy discourages certain behavior, point-blank. If someone really has the time and inclination to try and circumvent this over and over, so be it. There are, thankfully, precious few people around here who are that level of pathetic.

FunkMistress said:

I see it here and I see it on every other message board I'm on. People who get banned keep coming back. You don't need to be a wizz kid in order to get back on the site after being banned. It takes 2 minutes to sign up for a new account.