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Reply #30 posted 06/29/04 6:24am

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SassyBritches said:

Aerogram said:



Sounds like it will be very critical. It's no secret that Prince, while loving his hometown and fellow Americans, is not fond of the US political system, the media and various aspects of US culture.

yes, so perhaps he should become politically active rather than tell audiences that there "ain't no use in voting."



theblueangel said:

Exactly, Sassy...preach on, brutha!!

There ain't no sense in bitching if you ain't gotcher lazy ass to the polls, period.



no kidding! i hate when the man makes his double-standards impossible to overlook.
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Reply #31 posted 06/29/04 6:30am

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CandaceS said:

SassyBritches said:


yes, so perhaps he should become politically active rather than tell audiences that there "ain't no use in voting."


nod
Is it too much to hope that this track will mark a turning point, i.e. he'll pointedly speak out with a more positive activist stance? I for one would love to see that. Guess we'll just have to wait until July 4 to see what it's all about.



hmm hopefully you're right. instead of being the kind of person who complains about the political system yet does nothing to change it, he he will renounce that (imo) ridiculous tenet of the JW faith that requires him to refrain from participating in the political arena, will stop singing 'dear mr man' (or at least edit the lyrics to say "makes great sense to be voting") and will tear the roof off the house with his newfound political-activist self when he releases this new song. nod


awww, crap. like that'll happen confused if only. oh well. i can dream
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Reply #32 posted 06/29/04 7:24am

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Got my email from NPGMC. I ready to download!!!!!
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Reply #33 posted 06/29/04 10:44am

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Great news...I was almost starting a thread asking for the Musicology outtakes...smile
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Reply #34 posted 06/29/04 10:48am

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Aerogram said:

Gold319 said:

Hmmm!! A nice little title for Independance Day!!!!! lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol


Sounds like it will be very critical. It's no secret that Prince, while loving his hometown and fellow Americans, is not fond of the US political system, the media and various aspects of US culture. That much was already obvious in his songs, but I think spending so much time in Canada has made him even more critical. It remains to be seen whether this is what the title seems to suggest.

- yeah....believe me, things get a lot more clear when you are outside the USA. Here in Brasil, I don´t know nobody who likes Bush.
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Reply #35 posted 06/29/04 11:24am

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MsMisha319 said:

Why is "Cinnamon Girl" going to be the next single? I think this is an absolute mistake! It's not my most song on the album, but regardless, I just can't hear that song on the radio. If u'all think Musicology was a failure, CG will be a stinker.....I can smell it a mile away whofarted


Smooches;)


...and yet, almost every critic who reviewed the album cited it as the standout track. Just shows that Prince fans are a little too close to the material to be objective, one way or another (and I'm including myself in that as well).
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Reply #36 posted 06/29/04 11:43am

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GustavoRibas said:


- yeah....believe me, things get a lot more clear when you are outside the USA. Here in Brasil, I don´t know nobody who likes Bush.


So Brazillians think differently about Bush than Americans. How does that mean that things are "more clear"?
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Reply #37 posted 06/29/04 11:44am

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SpudMonkey said:

Oh god - anyone else expecting this to be really embarrassing lyrically - Political statement-wise he's definately no bob dylan - he's far too insulated to create anything with a political statement that isn't a joke (it's one area he's failed REALLY miserably time and again)- Sign O The Times was the only statement type song that DIDN'T suck donkey cock

Everything's been going too well for too long this year, i guess it had to happen...


Normally, his political songs are lame, but "Dear Mr Man" is fantastic. Hopefully, it will be in that vein. Not that I'm worried. Only his hardcore fans will know or care about this song.
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Reply #38 posted 06/29/04 11:46am

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GustavoRibas said:

Aerogram said:



Sounds like it will be very critical. It's no secret that Prince, while loving his hometown and fellow Americans, is not fond of the US political system, the media and various aspects of US culture. That much was already obvious in his songs, but I think spending so much time in Canada has made him even more critical. It remains to be seen whether this is what the title seems to suggest.

- yeah....believe me, things get a lot more clear when you are outside the USA. Here in Brasil, I don´t know nobody who likes Bush.


He's widely detested in the US as well. The country is sharply divided over him, almost exactly by half (which, when you think about it, is a whole helluva lot of people for a country this size)
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Reply #39 posted 06/29/04 12:20pm

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If this is the 'virtual b-side' to Cinnamon Girl, does that mean Cinnamon Girl will be released with no actual b-side? That seems a bit stingy, what, not even an album track? What about the virtual b-side to 'Call My Name'? Is this the first time Prince has released 2 different singles at the same time in different countries?

Sure he can...remember back in 1990 he came out with Graffti Bridge in the US, but Chocolate Box(which is basically the same alblum xcept for about 4 songs) in Europe.
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Reply #40 posted 06/29/04 12:24pm

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Universaluv said:

GustavoRibas said:


- yeah....believe me, things get a lot more clear when you are outside the USA. Here in Brasil, I don´t know nobody who likes Bush.


So Brazillians think differently about Bush than Americans. How does that mean that things are "more clear"?

I'm in tha US and I can't stand Bush's Lyin ass!
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Reply #41 posted 06/29/04 1:29pm

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Universaluv said:



So Brazillians think differently about Bush than Americans. How does that mean that things are "more clear"?

I'm in tha US and I can't stand Bush's Lyin ass!



Ah, but you are in the US so therefore you're not thinking clearly. We must let our non-American friends tell how to think.
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Reply #42 posted 06/29/04 3:25pm

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Loakum said:

metalorange said:

If this is the 'virtual b-side' to Cinnamon Girl, does that mean Cinnamon Girl will be released with no actual b-side? That seems a bit stingy, what, not even an album track? What about the virtual b-side to 'Call My Name'? Is this the first time Prince has released 2 different singles at the same time in different countries?

Sure he can...remember back in 1990 he came out with Graffti Bridge in the US, but Chocolate Box(which is basically the same alblum xcept for about 4 songs) in Europe.


Ehhh? Chocolate Box is a bootleg collection isn't it? It certainly was not an official Prince release! Here in Europe we got Grafitti Bridge like everyone else.
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Reply #43 posted 06/29/04 3:27pm

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Universaluv said:

GustavoRibas said:


- yeah....believe me, things get a lot more clear when you are outside the USA. Here in Brasil, I don´t know nobody who likes Bush.


So Brazillians think differently about Bush than Americans. How does that mean that things are "more clear"?


Out of the U.S. people tend to be less intoxicated by Fox and related ultra-conservative media. Even the less conservative american media outlets tended to keep low-profile their critics to Bush et al. after 9/11 and lost their critical sense, for fear that they be perceived as "anti-patriotic". Fortunately, the media situation has tended to get more balanced the last six months and the opinion of the american public is also getting more and more divided, on the topics of foreign policy and security.

David.
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Reply #44 posted 06/29/04 3:41pm

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It better fucking be good.
All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #45 posted 06/29/04 3:41pm

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demob said:

Universaluv said:



So Brazillians think differently about Bush than Americans. How does that mean that things are "more clear"?


Out of the U.S. people tend to be less intoxicated by Fox and related ultra-conservative media. Even the less conservative american media outlets tended to keep low-profile their critics to Bush et al. after 9/11 and lost their critical sense, for fear that they be perceived as "anti-patriotic". Fortunately, the media situation has tended to get more balanced the last six months and the opinion of the american public is also getting more and more divided, on the topics of foreign policy and security.

David.
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- Exactly what I tried to say. Brasil has several problems, but we have an independent media. The coverage of Iraq war showed the two sides of the story, as well as the Israel vs Palestine wars, and it showed every kind of censorship that happened during the Iraq war. We don´t have ultra-conservative media here, thank God.
I talk to lots europeans and some canadians and all of them hate Mr Bush. Maybe their media is more independent too.
Someone mentioned that USA is divided in half. If the election was here, Bush wouldn´t have 15% of the votes.
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Reply #46 posted 06/29/04 3:47pm

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Universaluv said:

Loakum said:


I'm in tha US and I can't stand Bush's Lyin ass!



Ah, but you are in the US so therefore you're not thinking clearly. We must let our non-American friends tell how to think.

- Sorry if I offended someone. I am not saying nothing against american people, but it´s scary that Bush still had 40% of the votes despite all the s**t he made. Lots of americans are well informed and intelligent, but lots are intoxicated by the phony ultra-conservative media.
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Reply #47 posted 06/29/04 3:49pm

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I agree with Jedi Master.....´dear mr Man´ is indeed great. I hope this new song has great lyrics too.
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Reply #48 posted 06/29/04 4:15pm

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GustavoRibas said:

Universaluv said:




Ah, but you are in the US so therefore you're not thinking clearly. We must let our non-American friends tell how to think.

- Sorry if I offended someone. I am not saying nothing against american people, but it´s scary that Bush still had 40% of the votes despite all the s**t he made. Lots of americans are well informed and intelligent, but lots are intoxicated by the phony ultra-conservative media.


Its strange here in the US, you have to be careful! If you attack Bush your deemed a terrorist!
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Reply #49 posted 06/29/04 6:24pm

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GustavoRibas said:


- yeah....believe me, things get a lot more clear when you are outside the USA. Here in Brasil, I don´t know nobody who likes Bush.


Dude, I live in Ohio, and I don't know nobody who likes Bush. Okay, I know some older people, but they're icky and distant family-type relations. I certainly wouldn't be caught dead hanging with anyone who liked Bush, sheeeit. And Ohio's the heartland of America. I totally don't mean to go off but it's upsetting that the rest of the world actually thinks Americans are as stupid as our President is...okay, most of the motherfucking rednecks on this bitch are, but there are PLENTY of "European-minded" humanists like myself.

Um, yeah. Where did that come from?
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Reply #50 posted 06/29/04 6:28pm

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demob said:

Out of the U.S. people tend to be less intoxicated by Fox and related ultra-conservative media. Even the less conservative american media outlets tended to keep low-profile their critics to Bush et al. after 9/11 and lost their critical sense, for fear that they be perceived as "anti-patriotic". Fortunately, the media situation has tended to get more balanced the last six months and the opinion of the american public is also getting more and more divided, on the topics of foreign policy and security.
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Well guh.....9/11 was massive. The country en masse was traumatized on that day, so you can understand why some of the more liberal press outlets like NPR became sensitive to the point of not voicing criticisms. Of course, that whole anti-patriotic bullshit is all the Republican McCarthyists, and I really really really hope they're on their way out.
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Reply #51 posted 06/29/04 6:32pm

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GustavoRibas said:

... it´s scary that Bush still had 40% of the votes despite all the s**t he made. Lots of americans are well informed and intelligent, but lots are intoxicated by the phony ultra-conservative media.


It's because they own all the corporations, so they have all the money and all the power, as simple as that. The only reason 40% are "intoxicated" by the media is because they're too fucking retarded to know that Futurama is better than King of the Hill. Most people are incredibly stupid, and most people don't vote. Combine that with the ultra-rich corporate conglomerate Republicans buying votes and rigging elections, et voila.

I never believe those polls, anyway. Who pays for those? Hmm. Who conducts them? Hmm.
No confusion, no tears. No enemies, no fear. No sorrow, no pain. No ball, no chain.

Sex is not love. Love is not sex. Putting words in other people's mouths will only get you elected.

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Reply #52 posted 06/29/04 8:47pm

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Do you think Prince really believes there "ain't no use in voting"? That line really depressed
me. Whether that's his personal view or not, I know a lot of black Americans feel that way.
Not to generalize too much, but it seems like there's a general apathy about politics in black
society. On the bright side, I'm glad to hear about movements like the Hip-Hop Summits
that are trying to bring a large part of the community back to the political process.

I've enjoyed recent songs like "Avalanche," "Family Name," and "Dear Mr. Man," even though
they're long on grievance and short on action. A fired-up Prince is a happy Prince, and more
interesting to listen to than when he's not. I think it's great that he combined a critical
message with a pop-friendly tune in "Cinnamon Girl" (there's no denying the catchiness of that
guitar line!). I'm curious to hear what "The United States of Division" sounds like.
Ooh, a squirrel!
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Reply #53 posted 06/29/04 11:37pm

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rolleyes ugh... this thread needs an enema. take this shit over to the looney bin where it belongs: http://www.prince.org/msg/105
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Reply #54 posted 06/30/04 6:14am

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GrayKing said:

rolleyes ugh... this thread needs an enema. take this shit over to the looney bin where it belongs: http://www.prince.org/msg/105


You must be a conservative. wink To the loony bin, GrayKing!! smile
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Reply #55 posted 06/30/04 11:45am

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JWs aren't allowed to vote, so this new track is no surprise. I just hope it's good.
The Org is the short yellow bus of the Prince Internet fan community.
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Reply #56 posted 06/30/04 5:54pm

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MinneapolisFunk said:

Doesn't make sense


For some of us it makes Perfect Sense!
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Reply #57 posted 06/30/04 6:04pm

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theblueangel said:

GustavoRibas said:

... it´s scary that Bush still had 40% of the votes despite all the s**t he made. Lots of americans are well informed and intelligent, but lots are intoxicated by the phony ultra-conservative media.


It's because they own all the corporations, so they have all the money and all the power, as simple as that. The only reason 40% are "intoxicated" by the media is because they're too fucking retarded to know that Futurama is better than King of the Hill. Most people are incredibly stupid, and most people don't vote. Combine that with the ultra-rich corporate conglomerate Republicans buying votes and rigging elections, et voila.

I never believe those polls, anyway. Who pays for those? Hmm. Who conducts them? Hmm.


Blueangel,

Sounds like u got a hit up in your statement, hhhmmm, lets put some purple music on "them" lyrics. Ah Yea, Its a Hit! lol

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Reply #58 posted 06/30/04 6:08pm

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Days of Wild
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Reply #59 posted 06/30/04 6:19pm

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SquarePeg said:

JWs aren't allowed to vote, so this new track is no surprise. I just hope it's good.



What do u mean JWs aren't allowed to vote? If true, then I know Prince is in the wrong religion! eek
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