So first-I'm nOT trying to start Lotus hating again or stir anyhting up

but-I have to ask this

why is it I haven't hears Prince utter a single word on the new site yet

not on any otf the shows i've heard since it opened-and Tavis must've been instructed-no questions on the web site....

not a single mention -nothing

why do we think this is cuz i'm finding it increasingly strange

I'm wondering if-in P's eyes-as not many joined-he's mentally distanced himself from it...

He needs to realize though that if he offered something exclusive to the site then a lot more people would join.

File under: Scam.

Thats odd he's played songs previewed on the site at his recent shows in the last few months since the site launched. His stage set has discojellyfish as a backdrop to this day just like the ones in the site artwork. He has sold tickets to the shows in LA and Monaco and Jay Leno Show on the site. Maybe he figures he doesn't need to talk about it. But still that site is stagnating hard!!!

i believe the T-shirts he sent qualifys as mentioning the site.

Was the website address on any of the posters or other print media associated with the recent concerts?

i bet he paid his $77 and after the orb flew of into space and he saw his own website, he figured he had better not talk about it and hope we forget about it before he goes and completes his next project, which he prob. just finished last night sorry for the long answer

ReginaCarman said:

No it doesn't. He has nothing to do with the T shirts. He has nothing to do with the site. I'd rather he wasn't hocking the site all over the place anyway. He should focus on music, not promotion. You don't hear Bruce Springsteen bleating on about his (fantastically informative and free) website in any interviews. Why should Prince? To justify our $77 membership fee? Fuck that! I won't be renewing regardless of what it has to offer in year 2, if indeed there will be a year 2. I somehow doubt it!

i also think that the website is just gonna be lame for a while until a tour happens

then all kinds of new fans will sign up

and maybe we get a new video or two

but best part will be good seats if it is anything like what they did for the ONA or Musicology Tour

japanrocks said:

Not. Gonna. happen.

because its the absolute worst website in the history of the music business... no actually in the history of the internet and the music business...combined

Simple answer...because he's already moved on to another project. Prince bores easily. Almost as if he's playing a game. Once you get a new game, you're all excited about it, can't sleep at night cause you want to play and play, but after a couple of months, you grow tired of it. You may play it every now and then, but you'll never be into it as much as when you first started. That is where I feel Prince is right now in his attitude towards his site.

ydnom said:

Now that's the biggest lie ever told. And you know it.

Man, where are you comin' from? You cats complain, pitch, moan and groan and bellyache more than a school bus full of spoiled boisterous kids.

the only other time I've ever seen such is during corporate espianoge and sabatoge tatics. No, I take it back.... you guys are worse. I've never seen such as this. What a trip.

go create some of your own art and quit bi*chin about someone else's.

I usually don't get into this stuff....but I'm so tired of hearing so many of you that seem to have ... no magic... no wonder or curiousity about life ... no appreciation .... just sit around on the computer ..attack other people and complain ..complain ...complain. Put down...put down... put down...

I have never seen such... it's old, it's real tired it's real tired and it
It's boring.

I've been trying to see if any of you complainers had anything constructive or meant anything in the slightest way ... to be constructive or useful. all I see are a lot of people who lust and covet the man.... some seem to covet power over Prince ... and just bitch ...bitch ...bitch.

It makes no intelligent sense ..to my very intelligent mind.

It's like someone once said....I'm trying to see your point of view but I just can't get my head that far up my ass.

I had to get that off my chest.

dartluv5 said:

I can understand about being excited about a new project...and work yourself silly ... even overwhelm one's own self bringing that project to life. I'm not
saying that's what Prince does. I'm just thinking about my ownself...in that respect and the lessons for me....in that regard.

However, (comma) .... some of these folks that are griping and complaining and telling him to shut it down... are the same one's that have been gripping and complaining from the get-go ....From the very beginning.


From the very beginning.

so what's this really all about

lol @ Lotus.....

glad you got that rant off your 'chest'

i invert the word chest as you seem unsure of your gender.....

and yet you lay claim to being kinda above us normal folk that have a problem with the site.....take this how you like

fuck off you dick. If I wanna moan about Prince-I will and a fool like you sure aint gonna shut me up

idiot

i may have a problem now-but its the first time i have actually had a problem with his 'art'-and who the fuck said shut it down.....?

read the gazillion other complaing Lotus threads for many reasons-why MOST folk don't like it

apart from you

party for one sir(or madam)? that'll be fun
[Edited 8/27/09 14:42pm]

Lotus2unfld said:[quote]It makes no intelligent sense ..to my very intelligent mind.

. As Prince laughs all the way to the bank...
[Edited 8/28/09 4:48am]

Lotus2unfld said:

Here's my point of view. Hopefully, you won't have to put your head up your ass one inch to see it.

Prince charged $11.99 for LotusFlow3r at Target. It had one song different than what he provided on LotusFlow3r.com (and for the life of me, I can't even remember which song that was) for $77. So there are two ways to look at it:

1. The song we got on LotusFlow3r.com was worth $65.01; and/or
2. "Crimson and Clover" was worth paying another $11.99 for (can't buy it on iTunes, can you?)

Neither one of those justifies the value of the Lotusflow3r.com membership. So, let's see if anything else does.

What else do we get? Some pictures and videos. First of all, we cannot download (legally) any of them. Prince first said content would be temporary, although so far nothing has been taken down. But taking Prince at his word, you could have a great video or two that you really like and that makes you feel good about spending that extra $65.01, but you cannot save a copy of it and Prince might take it away for good any second.

Does that justify the extra $65.01 I spent? Nope.

Some of the videos are not available anywhere else, but most are. I love the Leno version of "Guitar" with all my heart. But I can't save it (legally), and it could go away any second. Does that justify the extra $65.01? No, although there is some value to it. Since I cannot save it (legally), right now I'd say that was worth about $10.

And that value diminishes every day given that we're down to one or two new videos a month, if we're lucky.

So now I've overspent $55.01. But maybe there's something else that justifies the value. How about concert tickets?

Not really. He's only offered tickets to three concerts in the US; three TV tapings; and one concert in Monaco. All the US concerts were in Los Angeles. There's some value to this if you live in LA or Monaco; otherwise, it's worthless.

You can call us bitchers all you want, but the plain and simple fact is that Prince has not yet delivered anywhere near $77 value. And not making "Crimson and Clover" available to us that DID spend $77, requiring us to pay $11.99 if we want that one song, is simply ridiculous.

I hope you can understand this point of view.

RodeoSchro said:

Ahhh! You are forgetting the T-shirt! Well worth the $65.01 (exl p&p outside USA)! I haven't got mine yet but when I do I will bask in the glory of its artistry!
It makes no intelligent sense ..to my very intelligent mind.

colm said:[quote]

Lotus2unfld said:

laughs at what? the fact that he gave us a 3 CD disk for about half the
price of 1 disk a record label charges us all in these tough economic times?

polkadotbliss said:

polkadotbliss said:[quote]lol @ Lotus.....

glad you got that rant off your 'chest'

i invert the word chest as you seem unsure of your gender.....


well aren't You the comode-ian. lol.
At first, I didn't know what in the Sam H. Hill you were talkin' about....or what you might even remotely be refering to.

However (comma) I then saw a thread just a few minutes ago about some burlesque impersonator who appears to be transgender. I saw on that thread where you had posted a comment. I suppose this is what you are attempting to refer to in your gender confusion comment?

Let me tell you somethin' , there's no confusion here on my end.


You however, appear to have me confused with Prince.... it seems.


But, I am ALL woman, baby...born and raised.


and yet you lay claim to being kinda above us normal folk that have a problem with the site.....


vague, ambiuous, inaccurate and sounds like a knee jerk response .. that is NOT what I said... it wasn't even what I was thinking. How am I supposed to be "above" the normal folk...when I'm one of the normal folk too? I'm just the girl next door.


I don't wear false eyelashes, (which are naturally black, so I don't need them...thank God...what hassle that would be)

I don't have any tatoo's.... I don't streak my hair in odd colors (which is way past my waist anyway- so would probably take a ton of color)
I'm fond of wearing dresses and gorgette styled skirts ( I love the silky feel of the airey hemline caressing my calfs and legs as I walk) <---these are just some of the sublte things that only a woman would know and identify with.
And I'm fond of wearing strappy sandals with the kitten heels.

In other words...I'm a very feminine woman.

I am very much 'just the girl next door.'


.take this how you like

fuck off


nauhgty, naughty. Does your mother know you talk like that... to women? lol.




you dick.

I don't have one of those..... for the reasons I stated above.


I don't see how you'll get too far with the ladies...talking like that... however, (comma)


I don't know where your coming from. You ripped my face off like that ...cuz you thought I was Prince?!?!?!?! Man are you serious??!?! WHy would you do something like that? WHY would you???


If I wanna moan about Prince-I will and a fool like you sure aint gonna shut me up

idiot

Man o' man.....
If you talk to the ladies offline.....the way you just talked to me ..... you sure won't be gettin layed by any of 'em. That's for sure!

Maybe get your face slapped. That's about all the slappin' you'd see. LOL.


sheesh.

I don't even wanna talk to you anymore

. I believe you owe ME an apology!

I really think he's moved on. Prince websites named after his albums don't seem to last very long, and I won't be surprised if there isn't a year 2 at all.

I really do hope he's ok, though. It's been awfully quiet aside from Montreux and Monaco.

RodeoSchro said:

at least you present a more properly presented manner, without a bunch of name calling and cursing.

I do not agree, ...but at least I can see what your trying to say.

we have gotten a slew of concert footage. footage I for one, have never seen before. 3 of those video's are from the show in coachella valley.... a show I regret I missed...since I live here . in the valley. So for me, I did not expect to ever see that...and I really appreciate that I now have been able to at least view some of the show ..via the video's provided on the site.

for me, I really enjoy the interactive idea of the site .... as well as the overall ambience and artwork of the site.



no one broke your arm and made you buy the ticket for entrance to the site.

I could probably afford the price of entrance the least of all here... but did it,anyway. I don't feel cheated at all. I feel inspired...everytime I see the site. Everytime.

I'm inspired with all kinds of ideas and things of my own. artistically, spiritually, philosophically... many ideas to consider. much inspiration to employ. And that's what art should be.... an inspiration. I view the site ....as a beautiful work of art...filled with beautiful sounds (music, art)

So...giving a shout out to say...




Thank you Prince. You inspire me.





peace.



peace.
[Edited 8/29/09 8:28am]
[Edited 8/29/09 9:06am]

i wouldn't mention it either.. it's bunk

colm said:

if your gonna quote me, don't do it like that. Even I had to do a double take - when I read your post.
It looks like your trying to put words in my mouth...

hmmmmm....

colm said:[quote]

Lotus2unfld said:

okay... nevermind. I guess you just like that quote don't you? LOL.

that's cool

colm said:[quote]

Lotus2unfld said:

okay...nevermind. I guess you just like that quote don't you? lol.

that's cool.

peace

Lotus2unfld said:[quote]

colm said:

I didn't get any discs for my $77! Did you? I got access to downloadable .mp3 and .wav files. I didn't get any packaging, did you? I don't see where Princes costs are here in comparison to a record label producing a packaged disc!
What I did get I could have gotten from any news group the next day. I did'nt sign up for the 3 albums worth of new material! I signed up based on the promise made by the websites developers that there would be frequently updated exclusive content. That has not happened even nearly frequently enough to justify the cost of membership. Hence, Prince is laughing all the way to the bank.

If he put one exclusive album on there he would increase members exponentially. I'm sure Prince knows this; that all he essentially has to do is deliver 10 songs of unreleased music. For whatever reason, he is choosing not to.

At the moment, with many of the most vocal 'Lotusflow3r' subscribers complaining about the lack of new content, the site is unlikely to gain many new members. If low membership levels are the reason (and this is just speculation on my part) for the lack of unreleased material (i.e not enough people to listen, finances being made) then this is very much a self-fulfilling prophecy.

The 'Lotusflow3r' site really needs to speculate to accumulate, unless it is satisfied with current membership levels and site performance.

OperatingThetan said:

Why would Prince put an exclusive album on the site? Five minutes later the whole world would have it from "fans" leaking it to the internet. Honestly, I think the only beneficial thing for him to do is to put out physical CDs. A lot of people dig having the tangible item as well as the CD artwork.

em'.....scuse me Lotus2unfld.....

if you look at YOUR profile-it clearly says

GENDER-not sure.....

thats where i got it from-from you yourself

and

no-i don't usually speak to women that way-i thought you were a guy-so i do apologise for calling you a dick

but i still think your an idiot for having a go at us 'cats' for daring to moan about Lotus when it cleaqrly is-shall we say

lacking.....and some