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Thread started 05/12/09 2:13am

funkyfine

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My guess at what's happened to Lotusflow3r...

Prince was pissed off by all the tech problems when Lotusflow3r launched.
Prince fired Scott or whatever his name was who set the site up.
As a result, there are some kind of legal shenanigans that are preventing anything else happening with the site. Lawyers dragging it out. Site is stuck.
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Reply #1 posted 05/12/09 3:05am

prb

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eek

really?

prb heads on over to check it out
seems that i was busy doing something close to nothing, but different than the day before music beret
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Reply #2 posted 05/12/09 3:37am

KeithyT

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Or Prince is preparing for a US tour and hasn't had much time to tell the guys what to update the website with.

Or things are being compiled cleared as we type and some more updates are coming for the summer.

Or Prince is on holiday.

Or Prince and the teams computers are broken and only the website host server is running and remains unchanged while they wait in a queue on some premium rate tech support helpline to get their's fixed...

Or time has slowed down for Prince fans and although we are only about 1 month and a half into our year's subscription it seems like it has been 11 months already.

biggrin
Just somewhere in the middle,
Not too good and not too bad.
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Reply #3 posted 05/12/09 3:42am

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KeithyT said:

Or Prince is preparing for a US tour and hasn't had much time to tell the guys what to update the website with.

Or things are being compiled cleared as we type and some more updates are coming for the summer.

Or Prince is on holiday.

Or Prince and the teams computers are broken and only the website host server is running and remains unchanged while they wait in a queue on some premium rate tech support helpline to get their's fixed...

Or time has slowed down for Prince fans and although we are only about 1 month and a half into our year's subscription it seems like it has been 11 months already.

biggrin

lol i think i might have to hang on to my $77 a little while longer


especially as i wouldnt get a t-shirt sad
[Edited 5/12/09 3:43am]
seems that i was busy doing something close to nothing, but different than the day before music beret
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Reply #4 posted 05/12/09 4:15am

TheEnglishGent

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KeithyT said:

Or time has slowed down for Prince fans and although we are only about 1 month and a half into our year's subscription it seems like it has been 11 months already.
lol Does seem like it.
RIP sad
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Reply #5 posted 05/12/09 4:41am

Genesia

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KeithyT said:

Or time has slowed down for Prince fans and although we are only about 1 month and a half into our year's subscription it seems like it has been 11 months already.

biggrin


Further proof that time is a trick. shrug
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Reply #6 posted 05/12/09 5:37am

Anxiety

i think prince is over the internet, and he felt a pressure to have an online presence for this project, he gave the designers as much as he could bear to part with, then in true prince fashion he completely lost anything remotely resembling interest in the site and moved on to the next thing as soon as humanly possible, and the sitemasters are probably left in the dust without a thing to add to the site.

just speculation, mind you.
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Reply #7 posted 05/12/09 6:13am

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Actually, U may have a point there. I've been locked out for nearly a week, because I corrected my Birthdate 2 May 13th, and haven't been able 2 get in since. Several e-mails sent 2 support, and still locked out.

Others who have changed anything in their profile R locked out as well.

I'm not very happy about it.
"He's a musician's musician..."
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Reply #8 posted 05/12/09 6:46am

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At the moment I really cannot believe that Prince has dropped this already. I just think we are all being our usual typcially impatient selves. None of Prince's official websites have ever been known for regular officially created content. A couple of lines of "Newz" on the old Npgolineltd/NPGMC (first incarnation) every few days (or weeks) was as frequent as it ever got.
[Edited 5/12/09 7:30am]
Just somewhere in the middle,
Not too good and not too bad.
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Reply #9 posted 05/12/09 7:06am

Sdldawn

wait... ya'll are expecting something else honestly?

I mean, yeah.. a few things might pop up over the year.. tickets.. probably a few tracks.. even a letter that makes no sense..


but.. eh.. wasn't this the same site/club that posted in January, that in January we were gonna get a new club? If he didn't give a fuck before the club opened with stupid messages like that.. he probably ain't buggin out about it now.
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Reply #10 posted 05/12/09 7:31am

4bjb

Giovanni777 said:

Actually, U may have a point there. I've been locked out for nearly a week, because I corrected my Birthdate 2 May 13th, and haven't been able 2 get in since. Several e-mails sent 2 support, and still locked out.

Others who have changed anything in their profile R locked out as well.

I'm not very happy about it.


r u unable to get on the site at all? I find it hard 2 believe just changing a date of birth would not allow u access to lotusflow3r.
Lemme
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Reply #11 posted 05/12/09 7:43am

Sdldawn

4bjb said:

Giovanni777 said:

Actually, U may have a point there. I've been locked out for nearly a week, because I corrected my Birthdate 2 May 13th, and haven't been able 2 get in since. Several e-mails sent 2 support, and still locked out.

Others who have changed anything in their profile R locked out as well.

I'm not very happy about it.


r u unable to get on the site at all? I find it hard 2 believe just changing a date of birth would not allow u access to lotusflow3r.


HE LIED TO PRINCE. THIS IS HIS PUNISHMENT.


lol
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Reply #12 posted 05/12/09 9:44am

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Anxiety said:

i think prince is over the internet, and he felt a pressure to have an online presence for this project, he gave the designers as much as he could bear to part with, then in true prince fashion he completely lost anything remotely resembling interest in the site and moved on to the next thing as soon as humanly possible, and the sitemasters are probably left in the dust without a thing to add to the site.

just speculation, mind you.


Then why did he do all that promotion for the site? Now I could certainly see that once it was launched with all the issues it had...on top of fans NOT liking one bit of it...THEN I think he gave it the purple finger and lost interest with the quickness. I think all the designers had to add was the videos, and the DMSR video that was probably slated to be put up sooner than it was ...probably thinking that Prince would chill and start giving them stuff to load on the site.

Again...another project immediately tossed in the purple trashbin because it didn't happen the way he thought it would.

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Reply #13 posted 05/12/09 9:47am

udo

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Sdldawn said:

4bjb said:



r u unable to get on the site at all? I find it hard 2 believe just changing a date of birth would not allow u access to lotusflow3r.


HE LIED TO PRINCE. THIS IS HIS PUNISHMENT.

What about updating Payment Information?
Does that cause the same issue?
If so: really troubling.
Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #14 posted 05/12/09 9:51am

Anxiety

superspaceboy said:

Anxiety said:

i think prince is over the internet, and he felt a pressure to have an online presence for this project, he gave the designers as much as he could bear to part with, then in true prince fashion he completely lost anything remotely resembling interest in the site and moved on to the next thing as soon as humanly possible, and the sitemasters are probably left in the dust without a thing to add to the site.

just speculation, mind you.


Then why did he do all that promotion for the site? Now I could certainly see that once it was launched with all the issues it had...on top of fans NOT liking one bit of it...THEN I think he gave it the purple finger and lost interest with the quickness. I think all the designers had to add was the videos, and the DMSR video that was probably slated to be put up sooner than it was ...probably thinking that Prince would chill and start giving them stuff to load on the site.

Again...another project immediately tossed in the purple trashbin because it didn't happen the way he thought it would.



do all WHAT promotion for the site? prince talked it up in interviews and whatnot early in the year, but that was when we didn't know what we were gonna get and he could dangle the purple carrot and play the "how does it feel to want?" game with us for a while. once the real thing dropped and it turned out to be a little bit less than reality-altering to many (can i say most?) of his fans, it seems like he dropped it like a hot potato.
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Reply #15 posted 05/12/09 10:40am

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udo said:

Sdldawn said:



HE LIED TO PRINCE. THIS IS HIS PUNISHMENT.

What about updating Payment Information?
Does that cause the same issue?
If so: really troubling.


No, I didn't lie, and there is a sticky based on this. Anyone who changed anything in their profile within a particular 48 hour period were unable 2 log in. I just got a reply from Scott, and I posted it there, by his request. U all may want 2 check it, in case of any future problems.

http://prince.org/msg/13/307444


~G
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Reply #16 posted 05/12/09 10:44am

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It's really not sensible to try and interpret Prince's moves based on how logically they hold together. He has a long history of doing things that don't seem to make sense. We should not expect that just because he spent some time promoting something that he will naturally stick with the project.
it's time for a new direction / it's time for jazz to die
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Reply #17 posted 05/12/09 10:51am

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Or Prince will come up with a new website with every new album, let us all sign up again, cause costs must be paid.
Promote the album at Leno, Tavis en Ellen, that's what he did with musicology.

It seems there is something wrong going on, it shouldn't take that long to get the Ellen Show performance uploaded on the website, like they did with Leno's performance.

No, it doesn't look good. The Uptown, Dirty Mind etc videos were added in the first weeks and now it's so quit. After a year watching a black screen, we know this is Prince his game, but no interactivity isn't doing him and his website any good.

Missed chance, he did so well, when NPGMC was up and very hot ...
Keep our fingers crossed.....
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Reply #18 posted 05/12/09 11:58am

alandail

Sdldawn said:

wait... ya'll are expecting something else honestly?

I mean, yeah.. a few things might pop up over the year.. tickets.. probably a few tracks.. even a letter that makes no sense..


but.. eh.. wasn't this the same site/club that posted in January, that in January we were gonna get a new club? If he didn't give a fuck before the club opened with stupid messages like that.. he probably ain't buggin out about it now.


All I expected was
- early access to the albums
- remixes like we used to get
- early access to concert tickets
- previously unseen concert footage as was heavily hinted
- some unreleased music as was also hinted

On those counts

- got the album early
- not only are there no remixes, discojellyfish has even disappeared
- I'm really surprised no tour has been announced
- I'm pretty disappointed they just posted a few songs and not an entire concert. The Sacrifice of Victor doesn't count as it's been previously released.
- they talked about all of these studio albums they cataloged, but nothing at all is on the site.

The year certainly isn't over yet, but a tour to support the album should have started by now, there doesn't seem to be a good reason for discojellyfish to disappear, and there's really nothing to suggest that concerts will be shown the right way i.e. shown the whole way through and not just as a single song at a time that is clipped at the end.
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Reply #19 posted 05/12/09 1:06pm

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My guess:

The web designers are concentrating on updating the galaxy. Maybe they are trying to fix glitches or making sure that the new music, pics, trivia, what ever they may be adding works properly before letting us see it. I'm sure March 24th didn't go as well as they wanted it to. Lots of log-on issues and an overloaded server(s). I hope they are working on organizing ticket sales! pray


Give the guys a chance, we are only 6 weeks into the membership...
Say it's just a dream...
U open up ur eyes and come 2 realize
u simply imagined this
So u lean over and give her a kiss
Here on earth, here on earth,
with u it's not so bad
Here on earth, here on earth
eye don't feel so sad
Stay right here
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Reply #20 posted 05/12/09 1:23pm

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I've been meaning to ask this for a bit:

Has anyone else noticed that the plane the worlds are on has changed? I could swear that when the site first launched, moving between the world's was linear, side-to-side movement. Recently it appears as though you're moving around a circle, only with parts of it not accessible just yet. Could this be this be introduction of a soon-to-be-launched new section?

I'm pretty damned bored with the site too though. Some new videos would be nice.
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Reply #21 posted 05/12/09 1:26pm

amorbella

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TwiliteKid said:

I've been meaning to ask this for a bit:

Has anyone else noticed that the plane the worlds are on has changed? I could swear that when the site first launched, moving between the world's was linear, side-to-side movement. Recently it appears as though you're moving around a circle, only with parts of it not accessible just yet. Could this be this be introduction of a soon-to-be-launched new section?

I'm pretty damned bored with the site too though. Some new videos would be nice.


the site is down, maybe they are updating smile
Say it's just a dream...
U open up ur eyes and come 2 realize
u simply imagined this
So u lean over and give her a kiss
Here on earth, here on earth,
with u it's not so bad
Here on earth, here on earth
eye don't feel so sad
Stay right here
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Reply #22 posted 05/12/09 2:01pm

superspaceboy

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Anxiety said:

superspaceboy said:



Then why did he do all that promotion for the site? Now I could certainly see that once it was launched with all the issues it had...on top of fans NOT liking one bit of it...THEN I think he gave it the purple finger and lost interest with the quickness. I think all the designers had to add was the videos, and the DMSR video that was probably slated to be put up sooner than it was ...probably thinking that Prince would chill and start giving them stuff to load on the site.

Again...another project immediately tossed in the purple trashbin because it didn't happen the way he thought it would.



do all WHAT promotion for the site? prince talked it up in interviews and whatnot early in the year, but that was when we didn't know what we were gonna get and he could dangle the purple carrot and play the "how does it feel to want?" game with us for a while. once the real thing dropped and it turned out to be a little bit less than reality-altering to many (can i say most?) of his fans, it seems like he dropped it like a hot potato.


I thought there were press releases for the site and a huge launch preview prior...not to mention the Leno shows to promote it all. Maybe I was confusing the promotion of the album with the site. But even promotion of the album has stopped.

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Reply #23 posted 05/12/09 2:07pm

Anxiety

superspaceboy said:

Anxiety said:




do all WHAT promotion for the site? prince talked it up in interviews and whatnot early in the year, but that was when we didn't know what we were gonna get and he could dangle the purple carrot and play the "how does it feel to want?" game with us for a while. once the real thing dropped and it turned out to be a little bit less than reality-altering to many (can i say most?) of his fans, it seems like he dropped it like a hot potato.


I thought there were press releases for the site and a huge launch preview prior...not to mention the Leno shows to promote it all. Maybe I was confusing the promotion of the album with the site. But even promotion of the album has stopped.


yeah, i think most of it was for the actual album...the leno appearances were more for the album, which i guess included the web site, but it's not like they hyped it with very much info, especially when you think of how he tirelessly pimped NPGMC all the time back in the day.
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Reply #24 posted 05/12/09 2:11pm

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amorbella said:

My guess:

The web designers are concentrating on updating the galaxy. Maybe they are trying to fix glitches or making sure that the new music, pics, trivia, what ever they may be adding works properly before letting us see it. I'm sure March 24th didn't go as well as they wanted it to. Lots of log-on issues and an overloaded server(s). I hope they are working on organizing ticket sales! pray


Give the guys a chance, we are only 6 weeks into the membership...


It doesn't NOT take weeks to fix a website! It does NOT take weeks to load content and make sure it's ok. An AVI is AVI and you can post those easily. Loading an MP3 to stream? Kids are doing that now. This isn't 1997, it's 2009! No business would call this acceptable. Not in the day and age where everything is instant and disposable.

I don't mean to harp and all, but the is NO REASON why content isn't up or updated except that someone doesn't want it to be there. And to think there IS something technical holding them back..or they just want to get it just so etc, well you're just fooling yourself.

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Reply #25 posted 05/12/09 2:48pm

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lotusflow3r
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Reply #26 posted 05/12/09 2:53pm

Anxiety

PANDURITO said:

lotusflow3r


lol


CactusFlow3r sad
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Reply #27 posted 05/12/09 3:18pm

amorbella

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superspaceboy said:

amorbella said:

My guess:

The web designers are concentrating on updating the galaxy. Maybe they are trying to fix glitches or making sure that the new music, pics, trivia, what ever they may be adding works properly before letting us see it. I'm sure March 24th didn't go as well as they wanted it to. Lots of log-on issues and an overloaded server(s). I hope they are working on organizing ticket sales! pray


Give the guys a chance, we are only 6 weeks into the membership...


It doesn't NOT take weeks to fix a website! It does NOT take weeks to load content and make sure it's ok. An AVI is AVI and you can post those easily. Loading an MP3 to stream? Kids are doing that now. This isn't 1997, it's 2009! No business would call this acceptable. Not in the day and age where everything is instant and disposable.

I don't mean to harp and all, but the is NO REASON why content isn't up or updated except that someone doesn't want it to be there. And to think there IS something technical holding them back..or they just want to get it just so etc, well you're just fooling yourself.




Just giving the guys the benefit of the doubt.

I don't think the designers were Prince fans to begin with. I'm sure they respected Prince as a very talented musician, but knew very little about him or his music.
The way I see it, don't bother updating the site if they are going to add content we have already seen and/or heard. Hopefully they are doing their research and are going to give us something that will shut the haters the hell up (for at least a few minutes) and give the silent, patient fans something that will make them smile and know it was well worth the wait.

We where never promised anything when we gave them our $. We knew we got the three cd's as a bonus for becoming a member as well as pre-sale tickets oh yeah and the founding members shirt. THAT'S IT. Yes, Lotus says it will be updated periodically, but again it isn't promised.

This is Prince we are talking about, anything is possible, and nothing shouldn't be a surprise.
Say it's just a dream...
U open up ur eyes and come 2 realize
u simply imagined this
So u lean over and give her a kiss
Here on earth, here on earth,
with u it's not so bad
Here on earth, here on earth
eye don't feel so sad
Stay right here
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Reply #28 posted 05/12/09 3:32pm

stanleylieber

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amorbella said:

nothing shouldn't be a surprise.


I'm not 100% sure this is what you're trying to say but nevertheless I pretty much agree.
it's time for a new direction / it's time for jazz to die
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Reply #29 posted 05/12/09 3:38pm

amorbella

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stanleylieber said:

amorbella said:

nothing shouldn't be a surprise.


I'm not 100% sure this is what you're trying to say but nevertheless I pretty much agree.


yup, exactly what I wrote....

thank goodness someone agrees with me biggrin
Say it's just a dream...
U open up ur eyes and come 2 realize
u simply imagined this
So u lean over and give her a kiss
Here on earth, here on earth,
with u it's not so bad
Here on earth, here on earth
eye don't feel so sad
Stay right here
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