Rorywan said:

That's just it Rory, no one is putting a gun to anyone's head and forcing them to join.

purplecam said:

2elijah said:

Course not?
But a little mutual respect between him and his fans might be nice?
It just all seems to be money based now. Not just money for new music which is cool, but about squeezing every last penny out of his loyal fans. For not a lot in return it seems. Listen we can't forget (npgmc, Lifetime memberships, cancelled concerts, tracks that we purchased which no longer work etc. etc. and now the shit over lotusflow3r) He really has been quite a bad boy. We still love him, but for how long? I'm a life long fan and I never thought I would be any way negative about him. Once bitten, twice shy, three times cautious, four times I will never trust you are telling the truth again.. And forcing us to buy BRIAN VALENTES album is just shit..

It's fan abuse! Exploiting fans who will (at the moment anyway) sign up to anything he sends out. I'm one of them by the way. So I lie somewhere between all the arguments here.


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Rorywan said:

Who's Brian Valentes? That's a new one on me.
[Edited 3/19/09 13:33pm]

Ok, now part of the issue with me is that I'm married with two young kids. I also live nowhere near where P is likely to performa ny time soon.
I can't justify $77 of our family income to spend on my own on the web. If it was for albums that could be downloaded and we could all hear and enjoy, maybe.
(Plus, the fact that I'm unemployed and my wife is currently the major breadwinner make sit even harder to justify If it was only 3 mths later and I could tell her it was my dream birthday present - which it isn't...)

Rorywan said:

On the "Seriously, who is not pl...scribing?" thread

I said:

rwn said:

Except for the full page advert for NPGMC, clearly mentioning all three albums?

Rorywan said:

Anxiety said:

Oh F**k, that actually looks a bit like that pic of him from lotusflow3r!
You might be on to something!

purplecam said:

Did you not know? She used to be a man called Brian Valentes?
Call yourself a prince fan..tut tut..

Rorywan said:

alright i gotta say this ...or actually can i question u on something?

have u ever bought any sheila e, the time, or songs prince has written 4 other artists?

if so then buying lotusflower will b no different, u have songs prince has written 4 another artist

or u could just not buy the album at all

L4OATheOriginal said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

it's like saying your favorite artist is trying to rip you off because they're performing a concert with an opening act you don't like. you can't just pay a portion of the concert ticket and only go see what you want. no, you have to pay full price, and either you show up late, or you suffer through the opening act, or you go to the bar and drink until the opening act is done. nobody's trying to rip you off just because you don't like the opening act.

and who cares if bria's cd is part of this set? even if you refuse to listen to it, you're still getting 2 CDs of new prince material for $12. that's $6 a disc. that's STILL cheaper than a normal album. so what's the problem?

"fan abuse". that term really made my day.

Anxiety said:

what id Bria's album turns out better than the other two

PEJ said:

or that it's just as good as the other 2?

PEJ said:

hey, *I* wanna listen to it. from the bits i've heard, prince's voice and musicianship is all over it. that enough will at the very least make the album interesting to me.

Anxiety said:

seriously she's gotta be somewhat special if he wants to bring her out like this

PEJ said:

Still don't care for it being described as they were sick of waiting for the next Sade album. So they created Sade like album???? I mean whats that about? I liked it when he created stuff that sounds like music out of this world. It's come to the point where he is copying Sade? and don't get me started about all the Larry G. wannabe jams. I just wish Prince would be Prince and the 100's of influences all in one which create something unique vs. trying to copy and be like James Brown or Larry G. and now a Sade copy?? If I want to listen to Sade I would throw on Sade. I do look forward to MPLSound though.

Rorywan

said:2elijah said:

I understand your point of view here, and although I don't agree 100% I get where you are coming from.

My issue (and not with you) is that at this stage we don't know what we are getting 100% so its difficult (and some might say pointless) to say is it worth it.

For me (living in Australia) $77US will equate to $113 dollars - which is about 4 - 5 CDs here in terms of relative value. Now to me, if the membership price offers the 3 CDs included, then it is well on its way to being of value. Of course all the bonus features (video, early ticket access etc) may make up the difference, time will tell.

Having been through the ups and downs of $100 memberships to $25 lifetime (of the site) memberships I can understand people's reservations. Having said that my experience through NPGMC was a positive one and the benefits of getting access to VIP tickets including soundchecks and On Stage tickets including a sit down meet and greet and chat for around an hour with Prince certainly made it valuable for me.

I hope when we get to see the full offering when the site launches, we will be in a better position to make up our minds. And like I said in another thread, those that choice to join will see it as being of value - and those that don't will not - and both are correct. I just hope we can respect those who do, and don't regardless.

Swa
[Edited 3/19/09 20:54pm]

Hell i would pay $77,777,777.00 for anything connected to prince so,$77 is nothing.prince is the man and 2009 belongs to the purple brother

my question is...what about all the members of NPG site that folded? I had a "lifetime" membership there. Then,within months the damn site shut down.

Can't we at least get a former member of Prince's NPG website discount? Damn bro, you already ganked us before. $77 discount to $50.00

if anyone sees an answer to this question contact: onegrigori@aol.com

Anxiety said:

Yeah, but guys u are all getting it for free. If it was being released here for that price you wouldn't hear a peep out of me.

Rorywan said:

Am i the only one on here that can still play the NPGMC files? I have changed computers in the last couple of years but made sure i took the media player license with me. For me this works fine. Every penny i gave the NPGMC gave me back more then enough. I have never had tickets to a canceled concert so i cant really relate to how bad that hurts. When you say he has been a bad boy the only thing that comes to my mind is the bullying of fan sites. I see no reason for him to be so unpleasant about that. Still this doesnt destroy my anticipation for the new site and music. Maybe i havent been hurt enough.

For the Bria album i am hoping for alot of Prince on instruments and i hope even some voice. To me it is a bonus disc with the real goodies and i have to pay more then 12 bucks for the set. When i listen to it i hope it will turn out to stand on its own. I still listen to Mayte's Children of the sun and like it.

Angelkim79 said:

I'm sure you are not the only one. I burned most of the tracks I purchased to CD and the ones that I didn't get around too I can still listen to on my Rio Carbon mp3 player, so I don't get all heated about the NPGMC closing.

Just out of interest how did you transfer the licences. I also got a new PC in early 2007 and thought I had worked it all out in my head but despite transferring the old licence folder to the same location on my new computer I still could not get the files to work on my new PC (it would be nice if I could still watch the wmv files etc). I was annoyed with myself for messing up. I had even installed a Fairuse DRMfree program to bypass the DRM and create licence free files but cos I was so confident it would work OK by just moving the folders, I neglected to use it first
[Edited 3/20/09 5:27am]

blacktrump said:

I've got boxes of stuff! me!!!

Angelkim79 said:

I burned most of my songs from NPGMC to CD and they still play fine and they come up on my iPod. Those that I didn't get, I don't miss, but that's me.

Angelkim79 said:

There was a Widows Media Player update a few years back that "lost" the NPGMC licenses. Microsoft put out a fix for this, which re-found the correct files, but few people knew/know about it. I also still have my licenses (after Microsoft's fix)... a moot point, since the tracks are readily available on torrent sites.

If you paid for the tracks, as far as I'm concerned, you have every moral right to re-retrieve the songs from an offshore torrent.

I don't know....I'll have to ask my mommy first!!!!!

Anxiety said:

I skipped to the last page because I couldn't be bothered to read what this is shit really all about and I'm glad I did! This post suddenly makes this thread awesome.