Do you BLAME NPGMC for showing the contempt they do toward members?

1) Most NPGMC members have exposed themselves on this site as BOOTLEGGERS or buyers of BOOTLEGS

2) "at least 4 cds were promised": ONA, ONA-LIVE= 4 cd's. Obligation fufilled. YET, you complain.

3) FIRST crack at front row tickets and soundcheck jam and chat. WHO ELSE IN MUSIC HISTORY HAS EVER DONE SUCH A THING?!? nobody!! An amazing thing from the shyest guy in show biz. YET, you complain!

4) You get the opprotunity to buy merchandise like the CLOUD GUITAR! Man, watching "Purple Rain" and "Sign o' the Times" who ever thought you could own the coolest guitar, a personal icon of Prince? Not to mention "Days of Wild" discs, "Rainbow Children" jack,that rest of us can't buy? YET, you complain!

5) You all complain about NOT getting "Madrid 2 Chicago", "Last December", "Very Best of", "Xenophobia" when they DO NOT EVEN EXIST! THEY NEVER DID! They are TITLES of non-existant product!

...you ask for a piano album. Check. A live album. Check.

What the HELL do you WANT from the man!?!

NPGMC fans ,not all, but a great many, are the sickest Prince fans, because they are NOT satisfied with ANYTHING, nothing can make them happy.
The BEST Prince fans are the ones who merely go to the record store and buy his latest release- they are the most respectful to his work as he chooses to release.We don't bug him for what he DOESN'T do. He knows this and that is why "ONA-LIVE" will hit stores before mailboxes.

NPGMC has exposed a lot of fans as crazy obsessives that do not respect his vision so much as need his product to fill holes in their lives. I wouldn't blame Prince for drastically chhanging NPGMC in 2003!

Cheers!

oh yes..Prince is an angel and we should all kneel before him for all he has done for us.

pimpytheclown said:

So you don't think ANY single complaint has merit?

Personally, I think some folks go overboard, but there are also some valid complaints.

I'm not a member, so I'm not really complaining. but...
I think when you signed for the membership, there was a promise for 4 CDs of studio recordings (I might be wrong, but that's what I've been told by others).

opportunity to buy the cloud guitar? it's always out of stock!

Will he tour in Israel? I don't think so, so there goes my opportunity of seeing him live, unless I'm going to add another $500-$1,000 for air fare, hotel and transportation.

the ONA piano was already 1/2 given in the first year. so a lot of people paid twice for the same songs.

Yes, we wanted Madrid to Chicago, Xenophobia, Last December. those are titles of non existant products, but those titles weren't made by us, they were mentioned by the NPGMC. so they actually led us to believe those titles exist.

Most of the people who buy bootlegs, will buy them again if they are released by Prince. Those people are buying recordings of shows, because Prince live, is a great thing, and they want to hear the master at work.
Most Prince bootleggers don't do it for money, but for sharing the greatness of his live performance.

Again, this answer is MY opinion, and the way I see things as I write it. I may change my mind, in a different time of day/night.

I hope year 3 would be more like year 1, and I think most will agree with me on that.
[This message was edited Wed Nov 6 20:42:23 PST 2002 by Heavenly]

rdhull said:

I hope that's a joke, 'cause Prince is NO angel

Pimpytheclown=another of prince's sheep!!!Hurry up little sheep follow your master over the cliff!!lol!

Are you serious Pimpy?
Seems like I read something from you the other day that was just the opposite of this.
You are kidding, right?
You are really making fun of Prince and his Music Club and
his clubmember/fans, aren't you?
You just about have to say what you really mean here..
you know what I'm saying?

pimpy, ure blinded by prince's ass hole, that explains the dot on ure nose.
[This message was edited Wed Nov 6 20:52:22 PST 2002 by Sdldawn]

pimpytheclown said:

This is hilarious!!!

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[This message was edited Wed Nov 6 21:01:06 PST 2002 by rdhull]

pimpytheclown said:

In your opinion. No basis in fact just in your opinion.
Sounds like most of your impressions of NPGMC members comes from observations of this site. What type of e-mails NPGMC is getting is known only to them. The complainers may compromise only a small portion of the membership.
In my opinion Prince sees that the majority of the NPGMC fans are not complaining and he will make sure we get ONA...Live! first.
IMO

pimpytheclown said:

hehe, Eye think npgmc, has just met its match..


ure posts are very obsessive. The only thing that npgmc exposed is a sh*tty buisness ethics. and a very poor operated one at that. and anyone that could defend such a club, in the manner ure doing it, proves u have no clue of whats going on. and eye'm willng to bet ure not a member.. and btw-Xenophobia is finished, its been said 8million times here, and eye've listened to it. 4 times.. (FOUR TIMES.. did u get that) waiting for a man to come out and play some decent music.

Please get ure facts straight..
[This message was edited Wed Nov 6 21:16:03 PST 2002 by Sdldawn]

I can't speak for everyone in the group, but I am a little upset about the club. Not for the fact that I am not getting 4 different cds, but because I was promised at least 4 cds 4 a one year's membership.

I'm not upset that the ONA piano album counted toward my membership even though it contained music that was offered in the previous year.

I am not upset about purchasing concert tix (I was on the front row in Dallas) before the public.

I am upset because the club was not planned out like it should have been. Last year gave us more, overall, than this year. Yes, this year we had a little more merchandise 2 purchase, but come on, by the time we paid shipping, we were paying $20 for a cd single!

I think if they would post a download every month (just one song), that would help keep our complaining down. If it was just a live track, new studio track, or answering machine greeting, that would be better than we got this year. That way, we would have 12 new tracks 2 make a cd of our own as well as the 4 promised cds.

I know $100 is not a huge amount of money, but we all work hard for our money and Prince works hard for his, however, Prince is a millionair, most us aren't anything but "working stiffs" that are working from 9 to 5 trying 2 make it 2 the next pay period.

I don't mean 2 sound like I'm bitching, but this club could be a little better than it is.

I hope they are reading this board and figure out a way 2 make the club 1000% better than it has been in 2002.

I am not a member (yet) but as I wasn´t travelling around Us or Europe (and neither will in Japan), sitting in the front row chatting to Prince, I´d really like to stress the fact that it´s really smth!don´t you find it special?
I´m pretty sure You do.
From my point of view Prince is a bit of a so called Luxury Product (have always been and I guess always will),
so this a Luxury Membership as well.
And come on- to me, as I´m a non-member, it would really be an honor to be a part of his soundcheck and not to "struggle" in...for example.. 30th row anymore.
Not seeing much anything.As it can still happen (and happens) to a loyal but non-member fan.

I do understand that nowadays people are "educated" to be Customers with capital C, expecting to get back smth worth the money, but well, not everything can be valued in money or given a price.
OK, I know, everyone knows that, but I still need to say it out

I honestly believe this NPGMC and Prince "thing" should not get such...selfcentered responses as it has been getting.
like dear prince, we are kind enough to give you 100 bucks, so dear prince you be grateful and pleeease us NOW!


Sorry.
That´s just another opinion.

PIMPY: very well put, although I dod not agree 100% you make some very very good points...If P hand delivered the original masters to some people they would still complain!

The Cloud Guitar is in stock now...

pimpytheclown said:

Pimpy you selling Crack in the front row or smoking it?

Pay for the opportunity to buy something...LOL...is it NPG Music Club or SAMS CLUB?!

Look around on the internet and you will see alot of musicians who dont charge for this stuff. You simply sign up for their mailing list and they email you with a password to buy tickets first.

Prince's fanbase would only be a fraction of what it is today without the circulation of bootlegs. So why be so critcial of them? Its obvious the music was never going to be released anyhow. The bootleggers did "the work" of distributing it. If he's worried about losing money, maybe he should consider how much fewer album sales he would have had in his lifetime if noone got caught up in all the unreleased stuff.

rdhull said:

ohh yes...our little pwincey-wincey is such an angel...





looks 4 instant angel wing remover

Wake up little Suzy (Pimpy) and smell the coffee!

KissMyAss said:

smell the merlot, is mo' like it...

I joined the club Sept. 2002 so I would get 4 cds not available to the public. I paid $160 Canadian ($100 American). Receiving these 4 distinct cds would have satisfied me. Being sent ona...live as part of the membership is a cop-out and probably means the club os on its last legs. I can't help but feel ripped off, screwed, taken advantage of...

Sdldawn said:

LMAO !!! go get him !!

violett said:

oooh, that's harsh...

I can not believe that you let Pimpy reel you in...
He is just pulling your collective leg...

See his post on Entertainment Weekly on "One Nite Alone Live
and what it means to you...11/01/02


He is pulling your leg!

SennsualMelody is dead right!

You all are gettin' royally screwed!


I'm gonna pay under $50 for ONA-LIVE, while y'all pay $75, if you figure $25/disc.

I am confident that just like "Rave IN2", the Piano ONA will hit the general retail section in about a year! Then, i'll buy.


cheers!

SensualMelody said:

What Sensual said...

PTC = FOS...

pimpytheclown said:

So ?



Maybe.. but how many did think of 4 seperate albums ?... see 5)



Stones.. Bowie...



The merchandise WASN'T part of the reason I became a NPGMC member



They do exist, check Candy's page -> Diary
They were announced as well



I didn't ask 4 anything, things were promised 2 me.



Stop announcing shit, you can't or won't come up with.
Don't rise expectations you can't make true.




However, since I attended 3 concerts this year, at close range from the podium, I am satisfied. On the promised music part, I am absolutely not.
There4 I hope the music part of the club changes for 2003.

"NPGMC has exposed how ill some Prince fans are!"

Yes it has...anyone who would still defend Prince after the conjob the NPGMC pulled this year must be mentally ill.

No one would KNOWINGLY spend a 100 bucks for 4 CD's that they will be able to eventually buy for much less in a store. I don't think the Piano Demo CD will hit the stores in this life time, but IF (and I'm saying IF) we only receive the same 3 CD's as the public and NOTHING MORE then that would really suck.

I'm holding my finalized opinion until this years membership is finalized. After receiving the remix of the Rave album last year as an unexpected bonus, I'm hoping that we will see some type of bonus this year. I'm personally wondering if the cost of distribution has been the hold up this year. Who knows what we will receive in the box set. It may just be 7 CD's. I just find it hard to believe that someone would go through the trouble of making this club and then turning around and knowlingly screw thousands of FANS.

If you think about the cost of distributing stuff, it can get costly quick. The cost of sending a thousand CD's to 10 stores is a drop in the bucket compared to sending 1,000 CD's to a 1,000 different mailboxes. So think about it for a second. If you were paying the bill for the shipping what would you do. Personally, I would pack a lot of CD's into one package. So all we can do is just wait and see.

First and foremost, I am a second year member. I will probably sign-up for third year because, well, I collect his music.

Now.

1) I own two bootlegs. That does not make me a bootlegger. I dont have the time nor dollars to track music that is of minimal quality.

2) I don't care how much studio overlay you apply, a Live song is a live song. If I wanted Live, I'd go to a concert.

3) Speaking of concerts. To catch the ONA, I would have had to fly or drive to NYC. I've never been to NY, don't know anybody in NY, and would have been taking a big chance to go alone. So, concert tickets, oh well.

4) Why mention titles of releases? We know the Madrid to Chicago album was completed before he and Mayte separated thef first time. Xenophobia, a thought with no susptance!? Please, he was obsessed with it. Was not it not the theme at this years Celebration? The other two cd's whatever.

5) I agree, a track a month. A memo that clearly- not mythically, riddlly, (I know these aren't words) or send you to drink to figure out what it means- states when a cd will be released or at least something that says thank you for being a member.

6) Finally, enough of the ego.

Now, this is my commentary. Complain if you like. Agree if you choose. I don't care.

This membership frustrates me so. I am member of Tori Amos and Everything but the Girls fan sites and they're marvelous.

Ciao