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Thread started 04/25/04 10:13am

purplefrank

50 Greatest Artists of All Time - Rollingstones.com

Rollingstones did a 50 greatest artists of all time. intros written by other artists!

in particular read Prince's by Ahmir Thompson and Stevie wonders...by Elton John

Also read the other articles!

http://www.rollingstone.c...p?pid=2900

PurpleFrank

[Agreed, lots of good reading at the link above. Prince one specifically, below. -Ben]

28) Prince
By Ahmir Thompson
Illustration by Sterling Hundley

Prince was forbidden in my closed, Christian household. He was somewhere between Richard Pryor -- whom we absolutely couldn't listen to -- and a stash of porn. In junior high, my parents would put thirty or forty dollars in an envelope, and that would buy a card that would cover a month of school lunches. It was November of 1982, and I took my thirty-six dollars and purchased Prince's 1999, What Time Is It?, by the Time, and the Vanity 6 album. I starved that whole month.

"Little Red Corvette" from 1999 was one of the first regularly played songs by a black artist on MTV; Prince crossed boundaries like that all the time. In the first five songs on Sign 'O' the Times, he sprawls across James Brown, Joni Mitchell, Pink Floyd, the Beatles and Curtis Mayfield in five easy swoops and maintains his own identity. But it's Purple Rain that was a crowning achievement, not only in Prince's career but for black life -- or how blacks were perceived -- in the Eighties. It's the equivalent of Michael Jordan's 1997 championship games: He was absolutely just in the zone, every shot was going in. "When Doves Cry" is one of the most radical Number One songs of the past twenty years. Here's a song with no bass line in it, hardly any music. I hear people speak of the Neptunes all the time, like, "Oh, man, this is some new shit!" "When Doves Cry" is a precursor to the Neptunes' one-note funk grind, a masterpiece of song with just a drum machine and very little melody. Anyone who saw 8 Mile, if they're over thirty, the first words out of their mouth are, "Oh, I liked that film the first time I saw it. It was called Purple Rain."

Prince must be one of the most bootlegged artists of the rock era -- on a weekly basis I listen to a bootleg called The Dream Factory, which would later be known as Sign 'O' the Times. His ability to create on the spot is mind-boggling. Like a hip-hop MC freestyling, he executes ideas off the top of his head in a very convincing manner. But there must be at least twenty ways to prove that hip-hop is damn-near patterned after Prince, including his genius, blatant use of sexuality and the use of controversy as a way to get attention. I don't think any artist before had used that level of sex to get in the door and be accepted by the mainstream. I wonder what his mind state was in 1980, standing onstage in kiddie briefs, leg warmers and high heels without a Number One hit. That was a risk. Also, Prince created the image of what we now know as the video ho -- he was a pioneer of objectifying and empowering women at the same time. Jay-Z often talks about ghostwriting for other artists; Prince is notorious for ghostwriting. Not only that, but he invented different aliases for himself in a way that rappers have adopted -- he was Jamie Starr, or Joey Coco, Alexander Nevermind or the Starr.

I met Prince in 1996, and I was prepared for the grasshopper voice, the one that he always uses at award shows, but he was totally normal. Just like you and me, except he's Prince. We played together a few times, and one of my hero moments of all time is after a concert in New York when me, him and D'Angelo got onstage and played for about a half-hour. His silence in the last two or three years has bothered me. It's really a shame that his fight for independence from the labels was a David and Goliath battle that he had to fight alone, and he's still fighting it. But judging from his performance with Beyonc� at the Grammys, I'm happy to say that he hasn't lost a step in his twenty years of doing it. He seemed as young and as in charge as ever. He definitely seized that moment. In case a few people counted him out, he's got a few trump cards up his sleeve.

(From RS 946, April 15, 2004)
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Reply #1 posted 04/26/04 7:59pm

KidStevie

Yeah, but Rolling Stone could have selected someone more reputable and knowledgable than Ahmir Thompson to write about Prince! That was a disappointment.
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Reply #2 posted 04/27/04 1:01am

DrD

"Reputable" ????

First, Ahmir is a fantastic drummer and producer. Second, he is from the new generation: nice to get his view instead of that of an old has been. Third, his comments are original. Nice choice in my view!
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Reply #3 posted 04/27/04 2:08am

ian

DrD said:

"Reputable" ????

First, Ahmir is a fantastic drummer and producer. Second, he is from the new generation: nice to get his view instead of that of an old has been. Third, his comments are original. Nice choice in my view!


Plus he's a huge Prince fan. He was a perfect choice to write about Prince, and he did a good job of it too.
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Reply #4 posted 04/27/04 4:23am

purplefrank

ian said:

DrD said:

"Reputable" ????

First, Ahmir is a fantastic drummer and producer. Second, he is from the new generation: nice to get his view instead of that of an old has been. Third, his comments are original. Nice choice in my view!


Plus he's a huge Prince fan. He was a perfect choice to write about Prince, and he did a good job of it too.


Ditto!

It shouldnt matter who writes what about Prince. It should be about the respect and experince written!
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Reply #5 posted 04/27/04 4:29am

Luv4oneanotha

KidStevie said:

Yeah, but Rolling Stone could have selected someone more reputable and knowledgable than Ahmir Thompson to write about Prince! That was a disappointment.

Rolling stone is kissing Prince's Royal Ass so they hired a prince fan to write
they can put him in the 50 greatest artist but not even in the 100 greatest guitarist
rolling stone can kiss my azz
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