Well....I had a great time. I had the purple circle tickets and was right in the best seat in the whole place. My area was right behind the piano and I could see everything. I'm still buzzing from the fact that I was only a meter away from him. | |
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My first post so please be gentle.
The dearth of replies to this thread compared to the initial buzz for the first few concerts speaks for itself I think. I wasn't able to post my thoughts here immediately because of the registration checks but I wrote an extended entry to my blog on my thoughts a link to which is below. The comments above accord with my own feelings. As my first Prince show after years of following his music as my primary artist of interest you can't help but have a buzz about it immediately afterwards. My wife and I were very excited about certain parts of the concert. It hit some very high points, but sadly after a little while the niggling things like the contempt which Prince showed fans who had seen him for the first time in 9 or more years by cutting it short; and technical issues with sound are spoilers. My personal thought is that Prince is conflicted fundamentally. He is by all accounts a remarkable person who has earned a place in those people who've come to this world with special talents that far surpass everyone else there at the same time. He's at the top of the class there; but he has his own issues which must be very deep in his heart. No one has the full house it seems, if you excel in one thing then you are limited in others. Some of those are lifelong and present constant challenges. The same genes which blossom into musical genius, give one others that cut one's bounty in other ways. Prince I feel is unable to express himself anymore. In the concert he did something that lends itself to this line of thinking. I could see through it immediately... During his piano set he aborted a started "Darling Nikki" as a teaser and said "nah, I can't sing that"... It's funny how a throwaway (seemingly) line like that gives away the conflict. The JW thing is much debated but it does matter imo when it leads to obvious giveaways like this. As one of, if not my absolute favourite song on that album "Darling Nikki" has the raw sexual vibe that many of his fans enjoyed back in the day. Prince's abandonment seemingly of this lewd persona might be construed as growth, but it robs the fans of what they want; and I think Prince still has a desire to go there again. In any case I just thought it was a manifestation in the concert itself of this conflict in his mind. I think he's chosen a difficult path in this respect. I think everyone here would rather Prince sings his sanitised songs than not at all so my only hope is that he can somehow come to terms with this real conflict. Prince's search for the ladder is way too narrow. I like Eastern thoughts on this and compared to a ladder which is man made, prefer to see the climb as of a mountain. You can only climb a ladder one way or the other, whereas a mountain has many ways. Prince has abandoned the mountain in search of the ladder, and being man made, there are too many ladder salesmen in this world. My blog entry with more: http://bit.ly/JXECmi [Edited 5/19/12 17:26pm] [Edited 5/19/12 17:26pm] | |
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well said
i went to the Prince gigs knowing its for 99% of the "i own purple rain" crowd
i dont mind.......thats why the second nite was such a knockut as it pleased both sets
Days of wild is th real prince.......fuck he must be so bored of those hits now but he must never get bored of the reaction
when i hear "i never meant to cause you......" i just think hurry up and get it over with but i look around and people are going nuts
Dance electric comes on..I go fucking nuts and look around and 99% of the crowd are going wtf
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Balladium said: My first post so please be gentle. The dearth of replies to this thread compared to the initial buzz for the first few concerts speaks for itself I think. I wasn't able to post my thoughts here immediately because of the registration checks but I wrote an extended entry to my blog on my thoughts a link to which is below. The comments above accord with my own feelings. As my first Prince show after years of following his music as my primary artist of interest you can't help but have a buzz about it immediately afterwards. My wife and I were very excited about certain parts of the concert. It hit some very high points, but sadly after a little while the niggling things like the contempt which Prince showed fans who had seen him for the first time in 9 or more years by cutting it short; and technical issues with sound are spoilers. My personal thought is that Prince is conflicted fundamentally. He is by all accounts a remarkable person who has earned a place in those people who've come to this world with special talents that far surpass everyone else there at the same time. He's at the top of the class there; but he has his own issues which must be very deep in his heart. No one has the full house it seems, if you excel in one thing then you are limited in others. Some of those are lifelong and present constant challenges. The same genes which blossom into musical genius, give one others that cut one's bounty in other ways. Prince I feel is unable to express himself anymore. In the concert he did something that lends itself to this line of thinking. I could see through it immediately... During his piano set he aborted a started "Darling Nikki" as a teaser and said "nah, I can't sing that"... It's funny how a throwaway (seemingly) line like that gives away the conflict. The JW thing is much debated but it does matter imo when it leads to obvious giveaways like this. As one of, if not my absolute favourite song on that album "Darling Nikki" has the raw sexual vibe that many of his fans enjoyed back in the day. Prince's abandonment seemingly of this lewd persona might be construed as growth, but it robs the fans of what they want; and I think Prince still has a desire to go there again. In any case I just thought it was a manifestation in the concert itself of this conflict in his mind. I think he's chosen a difficult path in this respect. I think everyone here would rather Prince sings his sanitised songs than not at all so my only hope is that he can somehow come to terms with this real conflict. Prince's search for the ladder is way too narrow. I like Eastern thoughts on this and compared to a ladder which is man made, prefer to see the climb as of a mountain. You can only climb a ladder one way or the other, whereas a mountain has many ways. Prince has abandoned the mountain in search of the ladder, and being man made, there are too many ladder salesmen in this world. My blog entry with more: http://bit.ly/JXECmi [Edited 5/19/12 17:26pm] [Edited 5/19/12 17:26pm] Well said. I see this conflict and inability to fully express himself and sing many of his songs as a difficult thing for the fans but especially for Prince. He manages to do some sly things like "On the Couch" that are on the edge of naughty. But he has to deny so much of his career to make these "clean" concerts. "Love & honesty, peace & harmony" | |
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althom said: Well....I had a great time. I had the purple circle tickets and was right in the best seat in the whole place. My area was right behind the piano and I could see everything. I'm still buzzing from the fact that I was only a meter away from him. It is so fantastic to see you posting here. I'm really happy you had such great seat and such a great experience. * * I'm firmly planted in denial | |
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Whoa, beautiful photos! They look like paintings.
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Believe it or not, I would not mind a hits only show. I'd rather have a mix of hits, rare songs, and non-album tracks. But most of all, regardless of the set, I'd want Prince to be the one performing. I would want Prince songs to be performed. Sure I can live without Purple Rain or Kiss. But if Kiss is done with Prince holding the Mic to the crowd to sing 50% of the lyrics, I'm not happy.
I guess I am hard to please, but when I go see other artists perform, I really feel that they are giving 100% of what they have at most shows. Prince is the only artist that I see on a regular basis that can give me the best possible show and the worst possible show.
The thing that was so great about the Musicology tour is that Prince was singing for two hours or more every night. Chance did his one song, and the set was hits heavy, but we also got Shh, The Question of U, I Feel 4 U, etc. The background singers were featured, but not made to look ridiculous as the very talented Shelby is made to look.
I remember being at the Act 1 show years ago thinking how great some of it was, but I was in disbelief that Tony M was allowed within 500 miles of Prince's stage. That clown wouldn't have been on stage on the Controversy tour.
As I've said before, with Prince, you have to accept that he's gonna do some really stupid and corny shit, but some brilliant shit as well. | |
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Interesting. I don't agree that much. I do feel the whole sampler set is a total waste of time, and is not something a master musician would do. Somebody who preaches "Real Music By Real Musicians," looks like a total fu$king idiot by singing over a backing tape.
Honestly, I don't care if his lyrics are X rated, R rated, or G rated. I just want to see Prince performing Prince songs. I would either want to hear a full blown version of Darling Nikki, or have him not play a single note of it. | |
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I love that. Very true. "That's when stars collide. When there's space for what u want, and ur heart is open wide." | |
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I've had the weekend to think about it, and I'm still disappointed. Don't get me wrong it was a great concert, but it didn't meet my expectations. I don't know if I would feel this way if I had not read reports of the previous concerts though.
Excuse the long post, while I post a brain dump.
Negatives first:
I was seated in the front row of Purple Reserve, so when you shell out $350 you are expecting a pretty damn good experience. As suspected, the stage is a little high if you are at floor level, such that you really can't see what is going on at the other side of the stage and you really can't view the big screens either. The atmosphere seemed a little lacking from my spot too (a little south of the RHS of the cross). There was an aisle for walking right in front of me as well as the security guards for entry to the Purple Circle, so occasionally my view was blocked by them or stage equipment. The extra $100 for the Circle would be worth it, otherwise I don't think I would have lost out much by being front row of Gold instead.
As toejam said, the sound quality was not good. I think my ears are still in recovery. If I can't recognise Jam Of The Year until I hear the chorus, then there is something wrong. I think the sound also prevented me from enjoying the songs that I didn't know like Empty Room, Cool and Dance Electric (I had heard of them and maybe heard them once, but definitely not familiar with them).
The shortened concert sucked too, especially when you hang around clapping, yelling, etc waiting for the return. I definitely saw too many people sitting during "get up and dance" songs, so maybe Prince felt that the crowd weren't into it sometimes. If this is the case Everyday People and Dance Electric were never going to fix that. An aftershow may be an excuse to finish early, but not a valid reason for me.
Meh component: I don't hate the sampler stuff, but I won't say that I love them either. They left a taste in the mouth of wanting the whole song, like cutting off before the chorus of Pop Life.
Highlights: Prince looked to go for a party mood, and I think it was great. He looked lively and most of the crowd got into it accordingly. It was a big thrill whenever he came across to our side of the stage and get that close, especially with the guitar.
Purple Rain was awesome. As cheesy as the "rain" falling was, I loved it, and felt it just added to the "experience".
Shhh was on my shortlist for songs that I wanted to hear live, and it didn't disappoint. And then to follow it up with Anotherloverholenyohead, just blew me away.
Next stop is the Brisbane 26th concert. I'm hoping for Gold to open the show. I may end up enjoying the concert more from the nosebleed section. We'll see. "Don't abuse children, or else they'll turn out like me." | |
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I'm pretty sure others said he played Darling Nikki last week. How short was this concert exactly? Under 2 hours? If it was then, I'd be a little disappointed after reading about some other shows being up to 3 hours. If it was over 2 hours, then that's a longer concert than 95% of other touring artists. Music, sweet music, I wish I could caress and...kiss, kiss... | |
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It went for nearly 2 1/2 hours. People should stop complaining. How many artists do shows even that long? Just because it wasn't 3 hr they think they were ripped off. It wasn't that long ago those same people would have been happy that Prince was even coming to Australia at all. Now that he's here its not good enough? Wake up! | |
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althom said: Well....I had a great time. I had the purple circle tickets and was right in the best seat in the whole place. My area was right behind the piano and I could see everything. I'm still buzzing from the fact that I was only a meter away from him. Nice! Hello! | |
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what a thoughtful & fair critique. for me, i hope to be amazed when i see him because i know he can but even if he is off, i feel blessed for all he has given me throughout the years. | |
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Wait a minute - people are saying "he cut it short" about a 2 1/2-hour show?! That is the most moronic thing I have ever heard.
If he really did play that long, Brisbane should never get another Prince show. Ingrates. We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves. | |
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Thank you! From reading on here the audience was lackluster compared to all the prior shows. Some of these 'reviews' read like a medical diagnosis! BRISBANE Y'ALL NEED TO GET THE FUNK UP!!! When go 2 a Prince concert or related event it's all up in the house but when log onto this site and the miasma of bitchiness is completely overwhelming! | |
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I think ppl are annoyed because their info kit said the concert would end at 11pm, and only 2 encores whether we shouted or ripped apart the bec we were only getting 2 because he was halfway to the hi fi. And not everyone can go 2 the aftershow as its 18+ only. Maybe, as it was his Greatest Hits tour he should have played more hits? I'm not talking about me, I have ALL his albums & would much rather he play the non-hits which I prefer - but u could tell that most ppl were there for the Little Red Corvette, When Doves Cry etc etc and have never heard of ssshh or dance electric. I guess if you're promoting ur concert as the Greatest Hits tour u should at least play ur most popular hits first no? Also, if I'm going to be educating my child on the world of Prince music eventually we're going to come across Darling Nicki. We or Prince can't deny the songs he made in the 80's. It's what made him different. And sex shouldn't be looked at as a bad thing. Ps, he didn't play Little Red Corvette. Even I as a non-hit supporter would have loved to have heard this song... Much more than hearing Don't stop til u get enough Peace in the House of Prince. | |
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It's unfortunate that folks are complaining about Prince cutting his show short. I've never seen him live and I would love the opportunity to attend a show AND be in Australia! | |
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It was NOT 2.5 hours. He started after 8:15p and finished at 10:30p with three off-stage breaks. That would put it at under 2hrs. Relative to other artists, that's a decent length concert. Relative to Prince concerts, particularly on this tour, it's short.
It seems some people can't handle criticism of anything that Prince does. What a happy fantasy land you must live in. "Don't abuse children, or else they'll turn out like me." | |
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I can handle the criticism fine. Do you not like my criticism of their criticism of my criticism?
It just seems that people get jumped on here when they post about some negative aspects of the concert and that's what is focussed on. And that's from people who weren't even there. I think using terms like "moronic" is a bit more disrespectful of opinions than my happy fantasy land jibe.
Anyway, as I said, it was a great concert and I'm looking forward to another week of cramming in Prince music (I really should obtain the songs I didn't know well) and next weeks concert. "Don't abuse children, or else they'll turn out like me." | |
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I did say nearly 2 1/2 hr and I don't think most people take the time to sit around and subtract the "three off-stage breaks" but if you think that's important......
I'm just get frustrated with how negative his "fans" can be. I've loved his music for 30 yr. I'm not saying that I agree with every little decision he's made. Of course I would've prefered the concert was longer and of course he missed some of my favourite songs. So what. I had one of the best nights of my life because I focused on the positives and didn't expect anything. With a different show every night and people's heightened and long-awaited expectations, of course not everyone will be happy. I went in not caring about the details. I went in to see my long time favourtie artist perform live. I was just happy that I had a chance to see him at all.
Who are we to critisise his decisions? Its his decisions and talent that have made him the artist he is today. The one that we supposedly love. Its his refusal to let others dictate his art that we love don't we? I don't want to impose myself on to the work of my favourite artist. I love that he is unpredictable and keeps me guessing.
I get frustrated when the people on here, his biggest fans, spend their time compiling a list of all the things that he did wrong. This is why I have trouble with this fan forum sometimes. Its full of experts who wish Prince was someone other than who he is. I don't mind critisism of Prince I just the the overall negative tone. Where are the posts from the positive people like me that loved the show? I think that only those that have been a major international, million selling artist with 30 yr experience are in a position to look down their nose at what Prince didn't deliver. I don't think their are many of those on this forum.
I would have thought that if you all knew so much about him that you would know by now that he can be frustrating sometimes. I thought that was well understood. I just accept him for what he is and don't expect him to change to fit my expectations. I just give up on having expectations and simply enjoy his music. If that means that I'm living in a happy fantasy land then what's wrong with that? Afterall, I'm a Prince fan not a music critic.
I can't wait until the 26th to relive the awesome experience I had on the 18th. I don't care what he plays. I can't wait to see what surprises he has in store. I don't care how long the show is or how many stage breaks he has (he is 53 you know). Its not the length that counts but the quality of the performance. | |
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You did. You also compared it to other artists (that don't have breaks). And no, I don't think it's that important. It's one negative aspect out of my whole post and others' posts, which seems to be getting the most attention.
I have more issues with the venue than the performance. Is anyone sticking up for BEC? Who am I to criticise them?
I don't think there is an overall negative tone, there are plenty of positives to go with the negatives, as you would expect from a discussion form. Forums would be boring otherwise.
Drawing from my earlier post, can we focus on a positive like how good Shhh was or something else instead? Who was doing air-drums during it? "Don't abuse children, or else they'll turn out like me." | |
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Prince should never leave the stage during the show! All costume changes should be onstage while he sings ballads at the piano. When the show is over he should simply cover his eyes with his hands until he hears enough applause and screaming to do an encore. He his required to perform for no less than 3 hours with a fifteen to twenty minute funk jam ready to go to compensate for any long breaks of audience applause.
Problem solved.
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I agree Rustyrek. I remember a smile coming to my face when I realised John was about to do a drum solo during Shhh. One of the many moments that caused me to smile during the show. | |
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He who has not sinned cast the first stone ( or in this case - those who have not come on here (the org)& said one negative thing about Prince have the right to complain about ppl who complain). No-one ever said anything was wrong or bad about Prince or his music playing abilities or his band. What most ppl are saying both on here & on fb is the sound quality at BEC wasn't very good (not P's fault) and that the concert was short (again, not P's fault... Well we'll actually never know). We all obviously love Prince (at least I know I do) or else we wouldn't be on here. Peace in the House of Prince. | |
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When I FIRST saw Prince live back in 1990, he didnt come back for an encore, and the stage was ripped apart by the angry fans. And yet I left the stadium with a smile, for i had seen my first Prince show after a 10 year wait, and it was the most amazing show Id seen.!
In 92, he FINALLY came to Australia and much to my dissapointment, put on the most bland show to date, and yet EVERYONE loved it, seeing as it had all the D&P and greatest hits in one show. (BTW. I hate all things D&P).
And this time around, BOTH shows in Melbourne were amazing, im many different ways. He's catered for the fans, the casuals, and the left overs. So I can understand why Bribanites would be left short changed.
But the events in Brisbane have now left me wondering what the final show in OZ (the 30th) will be like seeing as its looking like there'll be an Aftershow. Do I prefer an extra encore to complete the arena experience and finish off an amazing tour!? Or cut the show short in hope of getting a chance another aftershow!?
I know that eveyone will be screaming out for the latter, but as some have pointed out, getting to the aftershow is a task in its self. Not getting in, is the most dissapointing thing a fan can experiece! The underaged miss out. And waiting for a 2.30am start on a Wed night only to hear the NPG perform while Prince occasionally pops his head out to sing A song, isnt really that enticing!
What Im getting at, is that there are two sides of a coin for every fan out there. And this has ALWAYS been the case with Prince. Which is probably why Im still here posting about it, 30 years after my 1st fell for his music.
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this thread is interesting, good to hear both sides of what happened that night. apparently the best responses and reviews were from melbourne fans, not many had complaints or negatives to say, then again we didn't have sound issues. i mean even in sydney people left disappointed from what i read on fb and that smh review also, lucky i live in melbourne now, although i have lived in sydney and the gold coast before. we didn't get shhh in melbourne, we didn't get how come you don't call me anymore, which i would have rather heard instead of dance electric or days of wild...many fans loved what he did in melbourne we had songs like don't stop til u get enough and le freak, and play that funky music white boy, but did you hear us complain so much??? i am just wondering what it is... | |
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I just wanted to say that I didn't mean to dis comments on this thread or anyone in particular. I guess I was just venting at the various negative comments that I've read on different threads on this forum as well as various Facebook pages. Put simply, I'm just so thankful that I've got another chance to see Prince live and have trouble when "fans" don't seem to appreciate the same. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and Prince isn't perfect. I refuse to let negative comments or poor sound to destroy my chance at enjoying a legend at work. There's been so little chance for Australian fans to see him over the years I believe we should be focusing on the positives and not the negatives. I hope you all enjoy the remaining shows. Cherish the opportunity. He may never tour Australia again. | |
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bennett, I had a read back through the review comments yesterday. On the whole it is very positive, with people mentioning things (negative) that could have made their experience even better, if they didn't happen.
I have now acquired Empty Room. What a cracker of a song and what a shame that I didn't know it well before the concert. "Don't abuse children, or else they'll turn out like me." | |
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