Few minutes ago i was talking to "Dirk becker entertainment" about yesterdays concert, and they told me to write a compliant! The lady told me also, that at the monent they have no official statements, but they are on the way!

Everybody, who was there yesterday, should write a complient!

this is the Email: info@e.ag

leave all your informations in your Compliant.

Maybe we will get refund!

misiu said:

Few minutes ago i was talking to "Dirk becker entertainment" about yesterdays concert, and they told me to write a compliant! The lady told me also, that at the monent they have no official statements, but they are on the way!

Everybody, who was there yesterday, should write a complient!

this is the Email: info@e.ag

leave all your informations in your Compliant.

Maybe we will get refund!

a lady also wants 2 force a CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT (sammelklage in german) against dirk becker entertainment.... her mail : cat666j@netcologne.de

misiu said:

Few minutes ago i was talking to "Dirk becker entertainment" about yesterdays concert, and they told me to write a compliant! The lady told me also, that at the monent they have no official statements, but they are on the way!

Everybody, who was there yesterday, should write a complient!

this is the Email: info@e.ag

leave all your informations in your Compliant.

Maybe we will get refund!

I was talking to her too and she said me the same .... they are waiting on an official statement by the Prince Management. Let's try it ....

lanima said:

misiu said:

Few minutes ago i was talking to "Dirk becker entertainment" about yesterdays concert, and they told me to write a compliant! The lady told me also, that at the monent they have no official statements, but they are on the way!

Everybody, who was there yesterday, should write a complient!

this is the Email: info@e.ag

leave all your informations in your Compliant.

Maybe we will get refund!

a lady also wants 2 force a CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT (sammelklage in german) against dirk becker entertainment.... her mail : cat666j@netcologne.de

this is the right mail info@dbe.ag

misiu said:

Few minutes ago i was talking to "Dirk becker entertainment" about yesterdays concert, and they told me to write a compliant! The lady told me also, that at the monent they have no official statements, but they are on the way!

Everybody, who was there yesterday, should write a complient!

this is the Email: info@e.ag

leave all your informations in your Compliant.

Maybe we will get refund!

fuc...n gold diggers... people are dying in other countries,, over 80 people died in norway a few days ago.... and here u are complaining about sound and to get money back...

what a shame..... just move on and forget about the money..

myloveis4ever said:

misiu said:

Few minutes ago i was talking to "Dirk becker entertainment" about yesterdays concert, and they told me to write a compliant! The lady told me also, that at the monent they have no official statements, but they are on the way!

Everybody, who was there yesterday, should write a complient!

this is the Email: info@e.ag

leave all your informations in your Compliant.

Maybe we will get refund!

fuc...n gold diggers... people are dying in other countries,, over 80 people died in norway a few days ago.... and here u are complaining about sound and to get money back...

what a shame..... just move on and forget about the money..

I wont move on, this was a fucking shit what was presented yesterday! I am not a gold digger, i spent a lot of money and what was delivered was painful, a scary! This is business! And what the fuck has it to do with norway?????? Give your money to them...... such coments are just silly! I have the right to complaining about the last evening, so leave me alone..........

lanima said:

misiu said:

Few minutes ago i was talking to "Dirk becker entertainment" about yesterdays concert, and they told me to write a compliant! The lady told me also, that at the monent they have no official statements, but they are on the way!

Everybody, who was there yesterday, should write a complient!

this is the Email: info@e.ag

leave all your informations in your Compliant.

Maybe we will get refund!

a lady also wants 2 force a CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT (sammelklage in german) against dirk becker entertainment.... her mail : cat666j@netcologne.de

You can't file a "SAMMELKLAGE" in germany, because the german lawsystem doesn't know that, afaik.

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sammelklage

"Die Sammel- oder auch Gruppenklage ist in den USA verbreitet und heißt dort class action (Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, Title 28 United States Code Appendix Rule 23). In Deutschland und der Schweiz gibt es sie in der Form nicht."

[Edited 7/29/11 8:04am]

[Edited 7/29/11 8:04am]

myloveis4ever said:

misiu said:

Few minutes ago i was talking to "Dirk becker entertainment" about yesterdays concert, and they told me to write a compliant! The lady told me also, that at the monent they have no official statements, but they are on the way!

Everybody, who was there yesterday, should write a complient!

this is the Email: info@e.ag

leave all your informations in your Compliant.

Maybe we will get refund!

fuc...n gold diggers... people are dying in other countries,, over 80 people died in norway a few days ago.... and here u are complaining about sound and to get money back...

what a shame..... just move on and forget about the money..

This must be the most silly comment ever posted on the org. I mean really....

funkenberry just wrote something about the show

[Edited 7/29/11 8:49am]

TrueFunkSoldier2 said:

funkenberry just wrote something about the show

[Edited 7/29/11 8:49am]

So did the official promoter -> (from the other thread)

In response to the articulated criticism towards the course of yetserday's conert by Prince, which we contentaly and moraly understand, we would like to state the follwoing as local representative:

Neither the promoter nor the venue has any influence on the sound at all.

Aspects like sound levels, set lists or production are responsabilities of the artists and their respective crews alone. All equipment for sound and light for yesterday's concert was being brought and handled by the artist and his crew.

Neither Dirk Becker Entertainment as promoter nor Lanxess Arena as place of event have a saying on the length of a concert event.

There were no regulations being made for yesterday's concert with Prince that the concert had to be ended at any certain time. Those decisions are/were being made by the artist alone.

We regret any inconveniences experienced by fans and would like to present a statement by the artist or his management towards yesterday's incidents, but despite numerous attempts we didn't come across one as yet.

I think i know which of these two statements is more believable

[Edited 7/29/11 8:57am]

myloveis4ever said:

misiu said:

Few minutes ago i was talking to "Dirk becker entertainment" about yesterdays concert, and they told me to write a compliant! The lady told me also, that at the monent they have no official statements, but they are on the way!

Everybody, who was there yesterday, should write a complient!

this is the Email: info@e.ag

leave all your informations in your Compliant.

Maybe we will get refund!

fuc...n gold diggers... people are dying in other countries,, over 80 people died in norway a few days ago.... and here u are complaining about sound and to get money back...

what a shame..... just move on and forget about the money..

ER?...what's the connection between Norway and a legitimate complaint?

People get ripped off and because of the tragedy in Norway they don't do anything???

I don't need my money back.

xLiberiangirl said:

I don't need my money back.

A restitution in natura would be better. Meaning a new show in another hall.

or sex with prince/andy...

.

You got a show, why should you ask for money back?

MISTERHANDS said:

xLiberiangirl said:

I don't need my money back.

A restitution in natura would be better. Meaning a new show in another hall.

or sex with prince/andy...

Yes , i agree new show would be good, but if doesn't happen then i'm okay with that 2.

powersoul99 said:

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You got a show, why should you ask for money back?

Excatly. I've bought a ticket for bad, worse and worst gigs and I have never asked my money back. Same thing concerns movies, art etc.

Get over it, please. Prince could have sucked in Germany, but he sure didn't do that in Helsinki.

PasiKullero said:

powersoul99 said:

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You got a show, why should you ask for money back?

Excatly. I've bought a ticket for bad, worse and worst gigs and I have never asked my money back. Same thing concerns movies, art etc.

Get over it, please. Prince could have sucked in Germany, but he sure didn't do that in Helsinki.

Er.......just just because the show was good in Helsinki, the orger (who paid quite a large sum of money) shouldn't complain about Cologne??????

Someone is gonna have to explain the logic here..I'm getting old.

Just ignore people who weren't there. No point in making comments if you haven't experienced the concert in my opinion.

eireboy34 said:

PasiKullero said:

Excatly. I've bought a ticket for bad, worse and worst gigs and I have never asked my money back. Same thing concerns movies, art etc.

Get over it, please. Prince could have sucked in Germany, but he sure didn't do that in Helsinki.

Er.......just just because the show was good in Helsinki, the orger (who paid quite a large sum of money) shouldn't complain about Cologne??????

Someone is gonna have to explain the logic here..I'm getting old.

Maybe I put in on the wrong thread, but there were a lot of people complaining how Prince sucks these days in general. That's not true.

What comes to those "getting money back for louzy gig"- stuff, I still don't see how can anyone do that. These things happen, asking money back or giving a law suit is not the normal practice with the "bad" concerts, movies, plays etc. I'm still sorry for German fans.

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PasiKullero said:

eireboy34 said:

Er.......just just because the show was good in Helsinki, the orger (who paid quite a large sum of money) shouldn't complain about Cologne??????

Someone is gonna have to explain the logic here..I'm getting old.

Maybe I put in on the wrong thread, but there were a lot of people complaining how Prince sucks these days in general. That's not true.

What comes to those "getting money back for louzy gig"- stuff, I still don't see how can anyone do that. These things happen, asking money back or giving a law suit is not the normal practice with the "bad" concerts, movies, plays etc. I'm still sorry for German fans.

[Edited 7/29/11 11:20am]

OK, point taken.

But you know , maybe things need to change.

Consumer protection is increasing in all areas.

If service, food is bad in a resturaant you have recourse.

If yur washing machine is faulty or if the trousers you buy are not as advertised, you have recourse.

Why not for a show at 80€???

OzlemUcucu said:

Just ignore people who weren't there. No point in making comments if you haven't experienced the concert in my opinion.

I could say my opinion, in general. It's odd to ask money back (or give a lawsuit) because of a bad concert, if he DID a gig. 75-90 minutes is quite normal time for certain bands, but not for Prince, of course.

Poor sound, expensive tickets and louzy performance suck, but you don't ask money back, you just don't go the next gig. I've witnessed a huge amount of terrible concerts with awful sound, but I couldn't ask my money back. It just doesn't work like that.

However, Prince should put his package together - otherwise there a lot of countries out of his next tour in Europe. Helsinki is not one of them, though. Here he was great, but with Cologne that obviously wasn't the case. I feel bad for the people who were there.

PasiKullero said:

OzlemUcucu said:

Just ignore people who weren't there. No point in making comments if you haven't experienced the concert in my opinion.

I could say my opinion, in general. It's odd to ask money back (or give a lawsuit) because of a bad concert, if he DID a gig. 75-90 minutes is quite normal time for certain bands, but not for Prince, of course.

Poor sound, expensive tickets and louzy performance suck, but you don't ask money back, you just don't go the next gig. I've witnessed a huge amount of terrible concerts with awful sound, but I couldn't ask my money back. It just doesn't work like that.

However, Prince should put his package together - otherwise there a lot of countries out of his next tour in Europe. Helsinki is not one of them, though. Here he was great, but with Cologne that obviously wasn't the case. I feel bad for the people who were there.

I agree it's a difficult area.

But I also think that there's no point complaining to ourselves.

The organisers/Prince etc have to know that certain behaviour/quality, whatever is not acceptable.

It's the only way to make things improve.

eireboy34 said:

PasiKullero said:

I could say my opinion, in general. It's odd to ask money back (or give a lawsuit) because of a bad concert, if he DID a gig. 75-90 minutes is quite normal time for certain bands, but not for Prince, of course.

Poor sound, expensive tickets and louzy performance suck, but you don't ask money back, you just don't go the next gig. I've witnessed a huge amount of terrible concerts with awful sound, but I couldn't ask my money back. It just doesn't work like that.

However, Prince should put his package together - otherwise there a lot of countries out of his next tour in Europe. Helsinki is not one of them, though. Here he was great, but with Cologne that obviously wasn't the case. I feel bad for the people who were there.

I agree it's a difficult area.

But I also think that there's no point complaining to ourselves.

The organisers/Prince etc have to know that certain behaviour/quality, whatever is not acceptable.

It's the only way to make things improve.

Agree. Send a complain to Prince's organizers (or man himself, if you can). That's only way to get anykind of improvement. Obviously Prince's tour has been changing from the great success to poor ones. It shouldn't be so.

To be honest, regardless if there was a sound problem, and to me there wasn't. I was at front row, and I didn't hear the best sound, it went up and down and if someone was fiddling around with the sound, but he could have played, he could have pulled it off, cause everyone was so excited and it began perfectly.

We had no idea what the problem was. Of course he felt the problems, cause he had problems on stage. Now we know he had problems before with sound in other cities, and for someone at his calibre, he should do proper soundcheck to make sure everythign goes well.

Obviously he didn't make a soudncheck in Cologne, which leads me to

a) he doesn't give a fuck or thinks he can pull it off regardless of any fuck ups in the sound

b) he's tired and just wants the tour to be over and done with - reason why plays those damn hits

c) he needs the cash

d) he's got other issues with the band

e) he's tired

I wish he'd cancel the shows so that we don't get more disappointments...but there will be more...Cologne wasn't the end...I can guarantee you...cause he is very tired....for whatever reasons...we don't know about...

OzlemUcucu said:

To be honest, regardless if there was a sound problem, and to me there wasn't. I was at front row, and I didn't hear the best sound, it went up and down and if someone was fiddling around with the sound, but he could have played, he could have pulled it off, cause everyone was so excited and it began perfectly.

We had no idea what the problem was. Of course he felt the problems, cause he had problems on stage. Now we know he had problems before with sound in other cities, and for someone at his calibre, he should do proper soundcheck to make sure everythign goes well.

Obviously he didn't make a soudncheck in Cologne, which leads me to

a) he doesn't give a fuck or thinks he can pull it off regardless of any fuck ups in the sound

b) he's tired and just wants the tour to be over and done with - reason why plays those damn hits

c) he needs the cash

d) he's got other issues with the band

e) he's tired

I wish he'd cancel the shows so that we don't get more disappointments...but there will be more...Cologne wasn't the end...I can guarantee you...cause he is very tired....for whatever reasons...we don't know about...

OzlemUcucu said:

b) he's tired and just wants the tour to be over and done with - reason why plays those damn hits

that is a totally different issue, and he played the same songs at shows that people said were the best they had ever seen

I'm sorry but for a man that has such an extensive song repertoire with great songs as he does...it's not understandable why he'd play the hits...unless he's retarded...but I think Prince needs to have a break...asap...before he has a breakdown on stage...

NDRU said:

OzlemUcucu said:

b) he's tired and just wants the tour to be over and done with - reason why plays those damn hits

that is a totally different issue, and he played the same songs at shows that people said were the best they had ever seen

OzlemUcucu said:

I'm sorry but for a man that has such an extensive song repertoire with great songs as he does...it's not understandable why he'd play the hits...unless he's retarded...but I think Prince needs to have a break...asap...before he has a breakdown on stage...

NDRU said:

that is a totally different issue, and he played the same songs at shows that people said were the best they had ever seen

sure, but that does not really relate to what people say the real problem at that show was--ie it was too short and the sound sucked, or that he was in a bad mood--because he played the same songs with the same band at shows that were long, had good sound, and he was in a good mood.

Soulstar77A said:

myloveis4ever said:

fuc...n gold diggers... people are dying in other countries,, over 80 people died in norway a few days ago.... and here u are complaining about sound and to get money back...

what a shame..... just move on and forget about the money..

This must be the most silly comment ever posted on the org. I mean really....

no the must silly is.... "i want my money back",,, "prince sucks..."

i´m just saying .. that u have experience bad sound... not a bad performance... so what´s the deal..?

misiu said:

myloveis4ever said:

fuc...n gold diggers... people are dying in other countries,, over 80 people died in norway a few days ago.... and here u are complaining about sound and to get money back...

what a shame..... just move on and forget about the money..

I wont move on, this was a fucking shit what was presented yesterday! I am not a gold digger, i spent a lot of money and what was delivered was painful, a scary! This is business! And what the fuck has it to do with norway?????? Give your money to them...... such coments are just silly! I have the right to complaining about the last evening, so leave me alone..........

I understand that it is upsetting when you go to a show and the sound is bad but come on painful and scary is a bit much. I am beginning to think that we have too many young people who need to get a grip on reality. Sometimes you can be disappointed with something but you go to deal with it and move on. It would be great if the venue and Prince refunded tge money but no way in hell can you sue to get your money back. Concerts are hit and miss with gurantee that the sound will be perfect or the show will be a certain length.