OzlemUcucu said:

I'm sorry but for a man that has such an extensive song repertoire with great songs as he does...it's not understandable why he'd play the hits...unless he's retarded...but I think Prince needs to have a break...asap...before he has a breakdown on stage...

NDRU said:

that is a totally different issue, and he played the same songs at shows that people said were the best they had ever seen

So now P is retarded for playing the hits that the vast majority of people want to hear. WTF is wrong with some of you. You do not get to pick the songs in the show.

laurarichardson said:

OzlemUcucu said:

I'm sorry but for a man that has such an extensive song repertoire with great songs as he does...it's not understandable why he'd play the hits...unless he's retarded...but I think Prince needs to have a break...asap...before he has a breakdown on stage...

So now P is retarded for playing the hits that the vast majority of people want to hear. WTF is wrong with some of you. You do not get to pick the songs in the show.

he is not a machine...we all have ''good'' and ''bad'' days....unfortunately one of his ''bad'' days were yesterday and also me witnessed the gig....but that's like it is....otherwise some weeks ago @ paris it was amazing AT ALL

lanima said:

laurarichardson said:

So now P is retarded for playing the hits that the vast majority of people want to hear. WTF is wrong with some of you. You do not get to pick the songs in the show.

he is not a machine...we all have ''good'' and ''bad'' days....unfortunately one of his ''bad'' days were yesterday and also me witnessed the gig....but that's like it is....otherwise some weeks ago @ paris it was amazing AT ALL

hits issue: i'am also tired in listening again and again 2 his hits....that's why i don't go anymore to a mainshow, only aftershows....cuz eye like and LOVE da FUNK

myloveis4ever said:

Soulstar77A said:

This must be the most silly comment ever posted on the org. I mean really....

no the must silly is.... "i want my money back",,, "prince sucks..."

i´m just saying .. that u have experience bad sound... not a bad performance... so what´s the deal..?

No you're calling other people "fucking gold diggas", but obviously you didnt even attended the show in Cologne. No, it wasnt only the bad sound, his performance was a joke as well on Thursday !!!

All this has absouletly nothing to do with what happened in Norway of course, still you bring it up.

The deal is this: If you have no clue what you're talking about, why dont you just shut-up please!

"Very important for cologne concert goers! Read it and act"

Why is it?, is it really that...

Somewhere in your head, you must now feel, like the most stupid person in the world...

misiu said:

myloveis4ever said:

fuc...n gold diggers... people are dying in other countries,, over 80 people died in norway a few days ago.... and here u are complaining about sound and to get money back...

what a shame..... just move on and forget about the money..

I wont move on, this was a fucking shit what was presented yesterday! I am not a gold digger, i spent a lot of money and what was delivered was painful, a scary! This is business! And what the fuck has it to do with norway?????? Give your money to them...... such coments are just silly! I have the right to complaining about the last evening, so leave me alone..........

Let it go. It isn't the end of the world. The guy has performed tens of thousands of shows. Odds are that a few of them have been duds. That's life. No one is perfect. 99% of all Prince shows are well worth the money. Sorry you had a shitty time.

laurarichardson said:

misiu said:

I wont move on, this was a fucking shit what was presented yesterday! I am not a gold digger, i spent a lot of money and what was delivered was painful, a scary! This is business! And what the fuck has it to do with norway?????? Give your money to them...... such coments are just silly! I have the right to complaining about the last evening, so leave me alone..........

I understand that it is upsetting when you go to a show and the sound is bad but come on painful and scary is a bit much. I am beginning to think that we have too many young people who need to get a grip on reality. Sometimes you can be disappointed with something but you go to deal with it and move on. It would be great if the venue and Prince refunded tge money but no way in hell can you sue to get your money back. Concerts are hit and miss with gurantee that the sound will be perfect or the show will be a certain length.

Planetlaura, for the prices artists charge consumers can demand a certain level.

The 70s are over.

Soulstar77A said:

myloveis4ever said:

no the must silly is.... "i want my money back",,, "prince sucks..."

i´m just saying .. that u have experience bad sound... not a bad performance... so what´s the deal..?

No you're calling other people "fucking gold diggas", but obviously you didnt even attended the show in Cologne. No, it wasnt only the bad sound, his performance was a joke as well on Thursday !!!

All this has absouletly nothing to do with what happened in Norway of course, still you bring it up.

The deal is this: If you have no clue what you're talking about, why dont you just shut-up please!

okey but don´t tell me what to do or not to do..,,, take it easy

my 2 (or 5?) cents:

...in one of the ads for the tickets for this event, the promoter stated something similar as "prince will play 3 hrs..."

I was wondering already back then, whether such a (bold?!) statement could be a possible reason for people complaining in case he will not play that long. -Not knowing that it will be the shortest Prince concert I have ever witnessed so far.

Would I try to claim/complain etc.? -No, as it is better to forget about that asap, as to be reminded all the time during that progress otherwise. (Was it bad? -Yes - for me & my ears...yes...)

The sound at this particular venue -the cologne arena- was never good. I saw prince there +10rs ago as well, and it was back then not a good sound either (and 2 other concerts, also not overwhelming, to say it gentle), and short too. (But not "that" bad & not that short either)

There is a terrible acustic at this spot (and I would not be gone, but -alas- no other opportunity in Germany so far...or will he play in Berlin???) and also a big "sound cube" -in lack off a better word- in the rear center of the arena. Everyone besides the front row would get (IMO) the sound from there. And it was too loud for this cube on top of a bad mixture from that cube (Plus..more like Mono therefore).

I can however also confirm that the people at the arena (permanent) working there are used to it and can usually get the most out of the PA, but that wasn't the case this time.

[Besides the sound & the looong break -where I could NOT witness any "action" done by the guy(s) at the mix center- I enjoided the show nonetheless over great lenghts..]

I know from P-concerts of the past how good & extensive the soundchecks often were. Did anyone here a (loud) soundcheck was done before here? Something went for sure wrong there. Knowing now that the sound guy is from Prince's team is hard to beliefe therefore, but matches the reality facts of the result nevertheless. This means as logical result: Even if it leaves the blame with Prince, I do trust the concert statement.

Also a writer from another news met him on the bycicle just before the show.

See http://www.faz.net/artike...75835.html (german). Difficult to understand the delay of the start either under these circumsdances.

-peace-

eireboy34 said:

laurarichardson said:

I understand that it is upsetting when you go to a show and the sound is bad but come on painful and scary is a bit much. I am beginning to think that we have too many young people who need to get a grip on reality. Sometimes you can be disappointed with something but you go to deal with it and move on. It would be great if the venue and Prince refunded tge money but no way in hell can you sue to get your money back. Concerts are hit and miss with gurantee that the sound will be perfect or the show will be a certain length.

Planetlaura, for the prices artists charge consumers can demand a certain level.

The 70s are over.

I live on planet earth. I am not sure what planet you are on. No one is going to get a refund because they did not like the sound at a concert or they feel the show is too short. If you look on the back of your ticket it usually states no refunds. You only get your money back if the show is cancelled. This has nothing to do with the fucking 70s. If every fuckwad who did not like a concert could sue you would see the end to live performances. What you do if you do not like the show is not go to the next gig. I have not heard anyone state the performance was bad just that they do not care for the sound I really believe despite all of P's issues he cares about his music and I am sure the sound guy is going to be fired and he will get things ready for the next gig. I do not believe for one minute he wants to have bad sound or short shows. His live shows are his bread and butter no one wants to lose the ablity to make a living.

[Edited 7/30/11 13:15pm]

laurarichardson said:

eireboy34 said:

Planetlaura, for the prices artists charge consumers can demand a certain level.

The 70s are over.

I live on planet earth. I am not sure what planet you are on. No one is going to get a refund because they did not like the sound at a concert or they feel the show is too short. If you look on the back of your ticket it usually states no refunds. You only get your money back if the show is cancelled. This has nothing to do with the fucking 70s. If every fuckwad who did not like a concert could sue you would see the end to live performances. What you do if you do not like the show is not go to the next gig. I have not heard anyone state the performance was bad just that they do not care for the sound I really believe despite all of P's issues he cares about his music and I am sure the sound guy is going to be fired and he will get things ready for the next gig. I do not believe for one minute he wants to have bad sound or short shows. His live shows are his bread and butter no one wants to lose the ablity to make a living.

[Edited 7/30/11 13:15pm]

You're avoiding the issue, Planetlaura.

It' not a question of "liking" the show...if the sound quality is exceptionally bad or dangerously loud, this is an issue...whether Planetlaura likes it or not.

eireboy34 said:

laurarichardson said:

I live on planet earth. I am not sure what planet you are on. No one is going to get a refund because they did not like the sound at a concert or they feel the show is too short. If you look on the back of your ticket it usually states no refunds. You only get your money back if the show is cancelled. This has nothing to do with the fucking 70s. If every fuckwad who did not like a concert could sue you would see the end to live performances. What you do if you do not like the show is not go to the next gig. I have not heard anyone state the performance was bad just that they do not care for the sound I really believe despite all of P's issues he cares about his music and I am sure the sound guy is going to be fired and he will get things ready for the next gig. I do not believe for one minute he wants to have bad sound or short shows. His live shows are his bread and butter no one wants to lose the ablity to make a living.

[Edited 7/30/11 13:15pm]

You're avoiding the issue, Planetlaura.

It' not a question of "liking" the show...if the sound quality is exceptionally bad or dangerously loud, this is an issue...whether Planetlaura likes it or not.

No one is going to get their money back because they feel the sound was bad. It is not a rule on my planet it is the way that it is and that is not going to change. As far as something being dangerously loud try leaving the venue no one if forcing anyone to stay. Honestly, I have never heard so many whining and crying little bitches in my life. Grow up and grow a pair.

In addition, from the reviews from Ireland concert the sound problems have been resolved because he never planned to have bad sound despite what some of the crazies on this board believe.

eireboy34 said:

laurarichardson said:

I live on planet earth. I am not sure what planet you are on. No one is going to get a refund because they did not like the sound at a concert or they feel the show is too short. If you look on the back of your ticket it usually states no refunds. You only get your money back if the show is cancelled. This has nothing to do with the fucking 70s. If every fuckwad who did not like a concert could sue you would see the end to live performances. What you do if you do not like the show is not go to the next gig. I have not heard anyone state the performance was bad just that they do not care for the sound I really believe despite all of P's issues he cares about his music and I am sure the sound guy is going to be fired and he will get things ready for the next gig. I do not believe for one minute he wants to have bad sound or short shows. His live shows are his bread and butter no one wants to lose the ablity to make a living.

[Edited 7/30/11 13:15pm]

You're avoiding the issue, Planetlaura.

It' not a question of "liking" the show...if the sound quality is exceptionally bad or dangerously loud, this is an issue...whether Planetlaura likes it or not.

No one is going to get their money back because they feel the sound was bad. It is not a rule on my planet it is the way that it is and that is not going to change. As far as something being dangerously loud try leaving the venue no one if forcing anyone to stay. Honestly, I have never heard so many whining and crying little bitches in my life. Grow up and grow a pair.

In addition, from the reviews from Ireland concert the sound problems have been resolved because he never planned to have bad sound despite what some of the crazies on this board believe.

laurarichardson said:

eireboy34 said:

You're avoiding the issue, Planetlaura.

It' not a question of "liking" the show...if the sound quality is exceptionally bad or dangerously loud, this is an issue...whether Planetlaura likes it or not.

No one is going to get their money back because they feel the sound was bad. It is not a rule on my planet it is the way that it is and that is not going to change. As far as something being dangerously loud try leaving the venue no one if forcing anyone to stay. Honestly, I have never heard so many whining and crying little bitches in my life. Grow up and grow a pair.

In addition, from the reviews from Ireland concert the sound problems have been resolved because he never planned to have bad sound despite what some of the crazies on this board believe.

Christ, you're becoming agressive, Planetlaura.......CHILL

People are getting together in a blog now to do something for that scandalous gig. I think this was set up today.

http://web.me.com/oliver1.../7/30.html

thanks!

OzlemUcucu said:

People are getting together in a blog now to do something for that scandalous gig. I think this was set up today.

http://web.me.com/oliver1.../7/30.html

thanks!

ludwig said:

thanks!

OzlemUcucu said:

People are getting together in a blog now to do something for that scandalous gig. I think this was set up today.

http://web.me.com/oliver1.../7/30.html

thanks!

Good idea!

Although be careful of what others thing...I quote Laura from above!

"Honestly, I have never heard so many whining and crying little bitches in my life"

laurarichardson said:

In addition, from the reviews from Ireland concert the sound problems have been resolved because he never planned to have bad sound despite what some of the crazies on this board believe.

Absolutely irrelevant.

If people are whining surely there must be a reason for that. A week later people still feel the bitter taste.

I hate it if people who haven't attended the gig in Cologne argue with those who have. I mean why don't you shut up?! It's ridiculous to make comments if you have no clue.

OzlemUcucu said:

If people are whining surely there must be a reason for that. A week later people still feel the bitter taste.

I hate it if people who haven't attended the gig in Cologne argue with those who have. I mean why don't you shut up?! It's ridiculous to make comments if you have no clue.

because they are piefke.

it was good, just too short. laydown, stratus, shhh, alphabet st., controversy, kiss, a love bizarre were all great. faz got it right: http://www.faz.net/artike...75835.html

ForbiddenFruit said:

OzlemUcucu said:

If people are whining surely there must be a reason for that. A week later people still feel the bitter taste.

I hate it if people who haven't attended the gig in Cologne argue with those who have. I mean why don't you shut up?! It's ridiculous to make comments if you have no clue.

because they are piefke.

it was good, just too short. laydown, stratus, shhh, alphabet st., controversy, kiss, a love bizarre were all great. faz got it right: http://www.faz.net/artike...75835.html

Richtig:

from the mentioned article: Wer mehr als hundert Euro für ein Ticket gezahlt hat, wird hierfür jedoch wenig Verständnis haben

translated by google:

Anyone who has paid more than a hundred euros for a ticket is, however, have little understanding for this

Everyone paid about 100 Euro. The cheaper seats for 87 Euros weren't even sold out. For me personally it isn't about the money, it's about the disappointment.

ForbiddenFruit said:

OzlemUcucu said:

If people are whining surely there must be a reason for that. A week later people still feel the bitter taste.

I hate it if people who haven't attended the gig in Cologne argue with those who have. I mean why don't you shut up?! It's ridiculous to make comments if you have no clue.

because they are piefke.

it was good, just too short. laydown, stratus, shhh, alphabet st., controversy, kiss, a love bizarre were all great. faz got it right: http://www.faz.net/artike...75835.html

Your brain must be heated these days. Prince touring excites a lot of people and they can't see the picture clear. Once this is over, you will get back to your senses, and understand why everyone is whining

remko said:

ForbiddenFruit said:

because they are piefke.

it was good, just too short. laydown, stratus, shhh, alphabet st., controversy, kiss, a love bizarre were all great. faz got it right: http://www.faz.net/artike...75835.html

Richtig:

from the mentioned article: Wer mehr als hundert Euro für ein Ticket gezahlt hat, wird hierfür jedoch wenig Verständnis haben

translated by google:

Anyone who has paid more than a hundred euros for a ticket is, however, have little understanding for this

from the mentioned article:

He played a sometimes terrific, but only short concert and then pulled a consequence which is worthy of a true artist.

ForbiddenFruit said:

remko said:

Richtig:

from the mentioned article: Wer mehr als hundert Euro für ein Ticket gezahlt hat, wird hierfür jedoch wenig Verständnis haben

translated by google:

Anyone who has paid more than a hundred euros for a ticket is, however, have little understanding for this

from the mentioned article:

He played a sometimes terrific, but only short concert and then pulled a consequence which is worthy of a true artist.

yep, could be so,

but my qoute is almost the last sentence, sums it all up and explains why people are complaining. I just hoped you would think that part of the article is right as well.

OzlemUcucu said:

ForbiddenFruit said:

because they are piefke.

it was good, just too short. laydown, stratus, shhh, alphabet st., controversy, kiss, a love bizarre were all great. faz got it right: http://www.faz.net/artike...75835.html

Your brain must be heated these days. Prince touring excites a lot of people and they can't see the picture clear. Once this is over, you will get back to your senses, and understand why everyone is whining

i was in vienna last year, the only difference was the length of the concert.

setlist last year in vienna: purple rain, let's go crazy, delirious, 1999, shhh, stratus, kiss, controversy, mountains, a love bizarre,... it was quite similar and everyone raved about after it.

remko said:

ForbiddenFruit said:

from the mentioned article:

He played a sometimes terrific, but only short concert and then pulled a consequence which is worthy of a true artist.

yep, could be so,

but my qoute is almost the last sentence, sums it all up and explains why people are complaining. I just hoped you would think that part of the article is right as well.

I drove a total of 2000 km, stayed two nights at the hotel, missed my connecting train because of delay (stellwerkprobleme), had to spend an extra night in Rosenheim - and all this cost me a total of 400 €.

and i have no idea why people are complaining.

It isn't very difficult to understand why people are complaining.

I met lots of fans who have attended many gigs and travel across Europe, this of course is not the majority. For most of those guys it's not a big deal if a disaster like this happens.

For the majority it was their first gig attendance, some travelled from far away.

He played for about 40 minutes max or so, really trying hard to make things work. The rest were soundchecks (15 minutes), that is of course after people waited 50 minutes for him to come back. The atmosphere was a disaster, and even for me who has a lot of patience...

We got a total of 55 Minutes after having waited 1,5 hours. In my opinion he changed the setlist cause he wanted to continue on the safe side. The setlist other than 2-3 songs is ridiculous. If you compare the setlist... it is only half of the songs he plays on any AVERAGE gigs ...and I don't mean his extended gigs...

In my opinion tho, when Prince got on stage with the first song, he already was so pissed off within 5 minutes, and I knew the night was gonna end in a disaster...and I wasn't even aware of the sound problems by then....he may have tried all he could..which I doubt...cause he had a bad day...but he should have cancelled and never came back again...it's better no gig than a disappointment...a lot of people won't go to his gig...I'm sure of that!

Edit: With that disaster in mind, I'm thinking Prince needs a break!

[Edited 8/4/11 3:38am]

ForbiddenFruit said:

remko said:

yep, could be so,

but my qoute is almost the last sentence, sums it all up and explains why people are complaining. I just hoped you would think that part of the article is right as well.

I drove a total of 2000 km, stayed two nights at the hotel, missed my connecting train because of delay (stellwerkprobleme), had to spend an extra night in Rosenheim - and all this cost me a total of 400 €.

and i have no idea why people are complaining.

Then it might have to do something with the 'hardcoreship' (is that a word?) of you being a fan?

But still. If people feel they should complain, file a lawsuit, whatever, then so be it.

laurarichardson said:

eireboy34 said:

You're avoiding the issue, Planetlaura.

It' not a question of "liking" the show...if the sound quality is exceptionally bad or dangerously loud, this is an issue...whether Planetlaura likes it or not.

No one is going to get their money back because they feel the sound was bad. It is not a rule on my planet it is the way that it is and that is not going to change. As far as something being dangerously loud try leaving the venue no one if forcing anyone to stay. Honestly, I have never heard so many whining and crying little bitches in my life. Grow up and grow a pair.

In addition, from the reviews from Ireland concert the sound problems have been resolved because he never planned to have bad sound despite what some of the crazies on this board believe.

Laura do you still feel that the fans from Cologne are "whining and crying little bitches" with no balls??

Honestly, I think that if you make such comments on a forum you need to back them up!!

Peace!