laurarichardson said:

JWs have the same view that Christian denominations have. If P was just a plain old Baptist would you still be raving. In addtion, since he has never made a public statement against gays your accusations are based on third hand gossip.

Well of course if he was a baptist I wouldn't dream of calling him out for being a brainwashed bigot, a 'colonized mind', if you will. I tremble at the thought of ever confronting a Christian of a denomination other than JW with their bronze age view of the world. I mean, really, who would dare!

Prince made his statement to a reporter with no axe to grind, and what's more, if you want to know what his vile take is on the rights of his fellow men and women on planet earth are, re: homosexuality, all you need to do is take five minutes to read up on JW and homosexaulity. I'm sure the fammies here are willing to be blissfully ignorant and pretend Prince is the one JW who's not a bigot (note your immediete defense, smearing the reporter, old Princey could NEVER be a bigot, right? lol), but given his statements on the subject, well, I think it's safe to say the JW's didn't have to spend too much time convincing Prince to take a vile stance on human rights. Of course I believe the moron also stated he doesn't even vote (also thanks to his faith), so in the end he's just a bigot with a bigger microphone than the rest.

Good grief! What happened to the Prince concert thread?! Can't you guys keep this stuff in the Prince & Music, Associated Artists, or Wannabe Artists threads?! It is really annoying when it leaks out and pollutes threads about live concerts and the people who want to attend!

purplethunder3121 said:

Good grief! What happened to the Prince concert thread?! Can't you guys keep this stuff in the Prince & Music, Associated Artists, or Wannabe Artists threads?! It is really annoying when it leaks out and pollutes threads about live concerts and the people who want to attend!

The thread was in Prince music when I commented.

Wall said:

laurarichardson said:

JWs have the same view that Christian denominations have. If P was just a plain old Baptist would you still be raving. In addtion, since he has never made a public statement against gays your accusations are based on third hand gossip.

Well of course if he was a baptist I wouldn't dream of calling him out for being a brainwashed bigot, a 'colonized mind', if you will. I tremble at the thought of ever confronting a Christian of a denomination other than JW with their bronze age view of the world. I mean, really, who would dare!

Prince made his statement to a reporter with no axe to grind, and what's more, if you want to know what his vile take is on the rights of his fellow men and women on planet earth are, re: homosexuality, all you need to do is take five minutes to read up on JW and homosexaulity. I'm sure the fammies here are willing to be blissfully ignorant and pretend Prince is the one JW who's not a bigot (note your immediete defense, smearing the reporter, old Princey could NEVER be a bigot, right? lol), but given his statements on the subject, well, I think it's safe to say the JW's didn't have to spend too much time convincing Prince to take a vile stance on human rights. Of course I believe the moron also stated he doesn't even vote (also thanks to his faith), so in the end he's just a bigot with a bigger microphone than the rest.

Whatever you are smoking you need to put it down. All christian denominations have an issue with homosexuality and pre-maritial sex. Has it occured to you that P's comment to the reporter might have been about pre-marital sex and if he was speaking about gays only who cares. He jumped on stage with Elton John a few years ago trust me if he had something against gays he would not have been in a 50 mile radius of Elton.

You can disagree with what people are doing and not hate them.

Wall said:

laurarichardson said:

JWs have the same view that Christian denominations have. If P was just a plain old Baptist would you still be raving. In addtion, since he has never made a public statement against gays your accusations are based on third hand gossip.

Well of course if he was a baptist I wouldn't dream of calling him out for being a brainwashed bigot, a 'colonized mind', if you will. I tremble at the thought of ever confronting a Christian of a denomination other than JW with their bronze age view of the world. I mean, really, who would dare!

Prince made his statement to a reporter with no axe to grind, and what's more, if you want to know what his vile take is on the rights of his fellow men and women on planet earth are, re: homosexuality, all you need to do is take five minutes to read up on JW and homosexaulity. I'm sure the fammies here are willing to be blissfully ignorant and pretend Prince is the one JW who's not a bigot (note your immediete defense, smearing the reporter, old Princey could NEVER be a bigot, right? lol), but given his statements on the subject, well, I think it's safe to say the JW's didn't have to spend too much time convincing Prince to take a vile stance on human rights. Of course I believe the moron also stated he doesn't even vote (also thanks to his faith), so in the end he's just a bigot with a bigger microphone than the rest.

Whatever you are smoking you need to put it down. All christian denominations have an issue with homosexuality and pre-maritial sex. Has it occured to you that P's comment to the reporter might have been about pre-marital sex and if he was speaking about gays only who cares. He jumped on stage with Elton John a few years ago trust me if he had something against gays he would not have been in a 50 mile radius of Elton.

You can disagree with what people are doing and not hate them.

laurarichardson said:

Whatever you are smoking you need to put it down. All christian denominations have an issue with homosexuality and pre-maritial sex. Has it occured to you that P's comment to the reporter might have been about pre-marital sex and if he was speaking about gays only who cares. He jumped on stage with Elton John a few years ago trust me if he had something against gays he would not have been in a 50 mile radius of Elton.

You can disagree with what people are doing and not hate them.

And all Christian denominations are filled with morons and people with bronze age brains. Don't blame me if they live in a world where homosexuality is a 'sin,' and they get called out for being the backwards bigots they are. Any contemporary person who isn't disgusted by the actions of these so-called 'moral' religions that degrade other humans ought be ridiculed into submission.

Love the 'he was talking about pre-marital sex' defense. lol. As if that would be any more sane, especially coming from a man who fucked anything that moved, but now that's he's checked into the geriatric wing and had his mind colonized by religion, it's what everyone should do, right? But hey, don't call me a bigot--I own an Elton John cd! Unfortunately, you'd have to be the biggest fam on the planet to not know what he was talking about. It's bigoted and it shouldn't be accepted.

I'm sure Prince has 'gay friends,' but the concept of a pious little bitch telling something to someone's face with a bright smile, then turning around and condeming that same person to hell is all part of the cliche.

RenHoek said:

Prince is comin' to MY city!!

it's gonna be a beautiful night...

You'll love it!

Spinlight said:

Also- what's up with this?

US $49.50 Ticket + US $327.50 Fees =
US $377.00

US $250.00 Ticket + US $327.50 Fees =
US $577.50

What the hell is with the $327 fee? Is that to pay for Prince's lawsuit?

P will serve the drinks himself?

Do you have tickets already? What was the last P concert you saw?

dJJ said:

Spinlight said:

Also- what's up with this?

US $49.50 Ticket + US $327.50 Fees =
US $377.00

US $250.00 Ticket + US $327.50 Fees =
US $577.50

What the hell is with the $327 fee? Is that to pay for Prince's lawsuit?

P will serve the drinks himself?

Do you have tickets already? What was the last P concert you saw?

I'll be getting them soon, yeah.

I have not seen P since the 90s!

laurarichardson said:

Wall said:

Well of course if he was a baptist I wouldn't dream of calling him out for being a brainwashed bigot, a 'colonized mind', if you will. I tremble at the thought of ever confronting a Christian of a denomination other than JW with their bronze age view of the world. I mean, really, who would dare!

Prince made his statement to a reporter with no axe to grind, and what's more, if you want to know what his vile take is on the rights of his fellow men and women on planet earth are, re: homosexuality, all you need to do is take five minutes to read up on JW and homosexaulity. I'm sure the fammies here are willing to be blissfully ignorant and pretend Prince is the one JW who's not a bigot (note your immediete defense, smearing the reporter, old Princey could NEVER be a bigot, right? lol), but given his statements on the subject, well, I think it's safe to say the JW's didn't have to spend too much time convincing Prince to take a vile stance on human rights. Of course I believe the moron also stated he doesn't even vote (also thanks to his faith), so in the end he's just a bigot with a bigger microphone than the rest.

Whatever you are smoking you need to put it down. All christian denominations have an issue with homosexuality and pre-maritial sex. Has it occured to you that P's comment to the reporter might have been about pre-marital sex and if he was speaking about gays only who cares. He jumped on stage with Elton John a few years ago trust me if he had something against gays he would not have been in a 50 mile radius of Elton.

You can disagree with what people are doing and not hate them.

Laura honey don't pay Wall no mind because nobody gives a fuck about him thinking Prince is this or that, at least the 20,000 or so people who packed the shows I went to. The experience I had in NJ and NY in December was so incredibly awesome that I am super thrilled my fellow Cali Prince fans will get to party like we did.

Get your tickets yall!!! No matter how cheap get em!!!!!

I'm as gay as three dollar bill and I couldn't care less whether Prince is homophobic or not. My love for Prince begins and ends with the music!

Wall said:

laurarichardson said:

Whatever you are smoking you need to put it down. All christian denominations have an issue with homosexuality and pre-maritial sex. Has it occured to you that P's comment to the reporter might have been about pre-marital sex and if he was speaking about gays only who cares. He jumped on stage with Elton John a few years ago trust me if he had something against gays he would not have been in a 50 mile radius of Elton.

You can disagree with what people are doing and not hate them.

And all Christian denominations are filled with morons and people with bronze age brains. Don't blame me if they live in a world where homosexuality is a 'sin,' and they get called out for being the backwards bigots they are. Any contemporary person who isn't disgusted by the actions of these so-called 'moral' religions that degrade other humans ought be ridiculed into submission.

Love the 'he was talking about pre-marital sex' defense. lol. As if that would be any more sane, especially coming from a man who fucked anything that moved, but now that's he's checked into the geriatric wing and had his mind colonized by religion, it's what everyone should do, right? But hey, don't call me a bigot--I own an Elton John cd! Unfortunately, you'd have to be the biggest fam on the planet to not know what he was talking about. It's bigoted and it shouldn't be accepted.

I'm sure Prince has 'gay friends,' but the concept of a pious little bitch telling something to someone's face with a bright smile, then turning around and condeming that same person to hell is all part of the cliche.

Prince is probably an unpleasant person for all sorts of reasons. It only adds to his credibility as a "mad genius" sort! There are all sorts of unpleasant people who made fabulous art. Bette Davis, Faye Dunaway .

dJJ said:

RenHoek said:

Prince is comin' to MY city!!

it's gonna be a beautiful night...

You'll love it!

YEAAAAAHHH WE GOT TICKETS!!!

This'll be my FIFTH Purple Yoda concert!!

the view from our section...

.

[Edited 2/18/11 17:17pm]

Wall said:

laurarichardson said:

Whatever you are smoking you need to put it down. All christian denominations have an issue with homosexuality and pre-maritial sex. Has it occured to you that P's comment to the reporter might have been about pre-marital sex and if he was speaking about gays only who cares. He jumped on stage with Elton John a few years ago trust me if he had something against gays he would not have been in a 50 mile radius of Elton.

You can disagree with what people are doing and not hate them.

And all Christian denominations are filled with morons and people with bronze age brains. Don't blame me if they live in a world where homosexuality is a 'sin,' and they get called out for being the backwards bigots they are. Any contemporary person who isn't disgusted by the actions of these so-called 'moral' religions that degrade other humans ought be ridiculed into submission.

Love the 'he was talking about pre-marital sex' defense. lol. As if that would be any more sane, especially coming from a man who fucked anything that moved, but now that's he's checked into the geriatric wing and had his mind colonized by religion, it's what everyone should do, right? But hey, don't call me a bigot--I own an Elton John cd! Unfortunately, you'd have to be the biggest fam on the planet to not know what he was talking about. It's bigoted and it shouldn't be accepted.

I'm sure Prince has 'gay friends,' but the concept of a pious little bitch telling something to someone's face with a bright smile, then turning around and condeming that same person to hell is all part of the cliche.

Wow dude you need to good read a little about Christian doctrine. To Christians all men have sinned not just homosexual Christians do not have a special hatered for homosexuality that got a thing for two dozen other sins.

That being said my being fan has nothing to do with not seeing P as a bigot. He is a big time hypocrite but I do not think he is some raving bigot. Once again you can disagree with what a person is doing and not hate them. I am sorry you do not understand that

purplethunder3121 said:

coldrain said:

End stage for reasons I mentioned in reply #51 of the following thread.

http://prince.org/msg/12/353002?&pg=2

^^^ But how do you know that it will be an end stage? Do you know someone I don't? I called the Oakland Coliseum and even they didn't know the stage configuration yet!

The concert is at the Oracle Arena, not the Oakland Coliseum. And thank goodness for that! We would be freezing our asses off in the Coliseum!

sunmaid5 said:

purplethunder3121 said:

^^^ But how do you know that it will be an end stage? Do you know someone I don't? I called the Oakland Coliseum and even they didn't know the stage configuration yet!

The concert is at the Oracle Arena, not the Oakland Coliseum. And thank goodness for that! We would be freezing our asses off in the Coliseum!

^^^ You're right about that! I slipped up with that one. The last concert I went to there was a Stones concert and it was the Coliseum because they had fireworks! Not only would we be freezing but we would be wet as hell with all this rain!

laurarichardson said:

Wall said:

And all Christian denominations are filled with morons and people with bronze age brains. Don't blame me if they live in a world where homosexuality is a 'sin,' and they get called out for being the backwards bigots they are. Any contemporary person who isn't disgusted by the actions of these so-called 'moral' religions that degrade other humans ought be ridiculed into submission.

Love the 'he was talking about pre-marital sex' defense. lol. As if that would be any more sane, especially coming from a man who fucked anything that moved, but now that's he's checked into the geriatric wing and had his mind colonized by religion, it's what everyone should do, right? But hey, don't call me a bigot--I own an Elton John cd! Unfortunately, you'd have to be the biggest fam on the planet to not know what he was talking about. It's bigoted and it shouldn't be accepted.

I'm sure Prince has 'gay friends,' but the concept of a pious little bitch telling something to someone's face with a bright smile, then turning around and condeming that same person to hell is all part of the cliche.

Wow dude you need to good read a little about Christian doctrine. To Christians all men have sinned not just homosexual Christians do not have a special hatered for homosexuality that got a thing for two dozen other sins.

That being said my being fan has nothing to do with not seeing P as a bigot. He is a big time hypocrite but I do not think he is some raving bigot. Once again you can disagree with what a person is doing and not hate them. I am sorry you do not understand that

Lets all take a deep breath and can't wait to put on that funky face at the Oracle with Purple Yoda!

laurarichardson said:

Wow dude you need to good read a little about Christian doctrine. To Christians all men have sinned not just homosexual Christians do not have a special hatered for homosexuality that got a thing for two dozen other sins.

That being said my being fan has nothing to do with not seeing P as a bigot. He is a big time hypocrite but I do not think he is some raving bigot. Once again you can disagree with what a person is doing and not hate them. I am sorry you do not understand that

The mere thought of labeling someone's basic biological urges as "sin" is fucking vile, end of story. The whole problem stems from viewing homosexuality as "sin." That mindset in the 21st century should be unfathomable and laughable to anyone with a modicum of human deceny.

As for Christians not having "special haterd" for homosexuality, you must be living on a Purple Planet, far away from this galaxy.

http://www.religioustoler...om_jeh.htm

http://www.icwseminary.or...nation.htm

http://www.tencommandment...exual.html

I mean, really, do I need to go on? You do know there are entire organizations working to 'un-gay' people, right?

Judging another human or thinking they are sinning is as disgusting as "hating" them. You're still lording yourself over them and by labeling their lifestyle "sin" implying that they need to be reformed.

Next.

Wall said:

sunmaid5 said:

I'm as gay as three dollar bill and I couldn't care less whether Prince is homophobic or not. My love for Prince begins and ends with the music!

Enjoy!!

wonder505 said:

sunmaid5 said:

I'm as gay as three dollar bill and I couldn't care less whether Prince is homophobic or not. My love for Prince begins and ends with the music!

Enjoy!!

^ clarity is so underrated. cheers!

paisleyperk said:

Wall said:

The mere thought of labeling someone's basic biological urges as "sin" is fucking vile, end of story.

Next.

I don't believe that love is a "biological urge" as you called it. Sex is not biology (and the very idea that it is ... Is inherently homophobic). Most people do not fuck in order to reproduce. They do so for pleasure. Reducing our lives to biology is pretty fucking reductive, to begin with, and Prince? That dude has fucked for pleasure way more than he has bred. It's just a BS argument to make. Or, rather, one which I am willing to bet that you, yourself, do not practice. (and, therefore, actually believe.) it's just some bullshit that got into your head and has nothing to do with your actual life and the way you live it. Moreover, homosexuality and heterosexuality are Modern inventions (the construction of both "infividuals" stem from the 19th century). Neither (as we construct them today) are in the Bible (my point is that the so-called "sin" of sexuality and the sexual sinner, as a person or individual, is Modern and of recent origin.) Moreover, you've repeated parts of those constructs above (without which homophobia would not exist). you are hardly in the 21st century. I know you mean well, but these are bad arguments. Also, this thread is gay. Let's talk about Prince who, while he probably once WISHED he was gay or bi, is still an awesomely faggy "straight" guy, whatever his religious beliefs. I'm gonna go with his swish and not his absurd rhetoric. Which no one actually believes (prolly least of all him). LONG LIVE CAMILLE! I believe that Prince's life is animated by one major concept: salvation through sex. And for P, sex is god and god is sex and Prince is god. Even when he ideologically attacks this, the dude just cannot help himself ... It is still in his music and everything he does. Everything he says on this, then, is meaningless. Even if he doesn't sing the "dirty" lyrics, you all know it's still there. It's just what makes him Prince. Dude is whack! You gonna listen to him talk? Or you gonna listen to him sing and play? [Edited 2/21/11 3:43am]

Good Points

laurarichardson said:

paisleyperk said:

Wall said: I don't believe that love is a "biological urge" as you called it. Sex is not biology (and the very idea that it is ... Is inherently homophobic). Most people do not fuck in order to reproduce. They do so for pleasure. Reducing our lives to biology is pretty fucking reductive, to begin with, and Prince? That dude has fucked for pleasure way more than he has bred. It's just a BS argument to make. Or, rather, one which I am willing to bet that you, yourself, do not practice. (and, therefore, actually believe.) it's just some bullshit that got into your head and has nothing to do with your actual life and the way you live it. Moreover, homosexuality and heterosexuality are Modern inventions (the construction of both "infividuals" stem from the 19th century). Neither (as we construct them today) are in the Bible (my point is that the so-called "sin" of sexuality and the sexual sinner, as a person or individual, is Modern and of recent origin.) Moreover, you've repeated parts of those constructs above (without which homophobia would not exist). you are hardly in the 21st century. I know you mean well, but these are bad arguments. Also, this thread is gay. Let's talk about Prince who, while he probably once WISHED he was gay or bi, is still an awesomely faggy "straight" guy, whatever his religious beliefs. I'm gonna go with his swish and not his absurd rhetoric. Which no one actually believes (prolly least of all him). LONG LIVE CAMILLE! I believe that Prince's life is animated by one major concept: salvation through sex. And for P, sex is god and god is sex and Prince is god. Even when he ideologically attacks this, the dude just cannot help himself ... It is still in his music and everything he does. Everything he says on this, then, is meaningless. Even if he doesn't sing the "dirty" lyrics, you all know it's still there. It's just what makes him Prince. Dude is whack! You gonna listen to him talk? Or you gonna listen to him sing and play? [Edited 2/21/11 3:43am]

Good Points

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