okay so now Prince is doing the concert in Antwerp for 69-99 pounds each ticket. thats only like $ 130-220. whats up with that shit?

And if your monitoring this shit Prince, start being fair to people who are NOT rich, and have to buy plane tickets, and it would be a great convenience if you could post the damn tour dates a little more in advance then 6-8 weeks!

lizard69 said:

okay so now Prince is doing the concert in Antwerp for 69-99 pounds each ticket. thats only like $ 130-220. whats up with that shit?

And if your monitoring this shit Prince, start being fair to people who are NOT rich, and have to buy plane tickets, and it would be a great convenience if you could post the damn tour dates a little more in advance then 6-8 weeks!

I think you are making a mistake, for as far as I can see the prices are €69 - €129 that seems fair enough.

Life isn't fair. At the end of the day if you can't go to a concert I think you will live.

Antwerp -> Belgium -> EU (eurozone) i.e.: the use the Euro currency. Not pounds.

Also, why compare to US dollars? That currency fell a bit, recently.

You don't know the venue, nor the people, nor the local buying power so any assessment about price levels is quite early...

I do think that 89 euros for a `standing` / field ticket is fairly OK.

Mostly similar price in Arnhem. (bigger venue)

I'm not sure about the conversion part... I'm stuck on the fact that people keep complaining about HAVING to make plane and hotel reservations. Even for the NJ/NYC shows...

Prince is not forcing anybody to spend all that money on accommodations, nor does he have out his calendar trying to figure out the best time to announce shows to make sure people have enough time....

Those are conscious decisions of fans who go out of their way to see him.

If you are whining about prices and it's a hardship to make arrangements, then that probably means you can't afford it and should rethink how much you need to be there.

That's all I got....

chocolate1 said:

I'm not sure about the conversion part...

http://www.xe.com/ucc/

I'm stuck on the fact that people keep complaining about HAVING to make plane and hotel reservations. Even for the NJ/NYC shows...

Their choice.

Their money.

Their bankruptcy.

I ain't going to the US of A. (political choice)

udo said:

chocolate1 said:

I'm not sure about the conversion part...

http://www.xe.com/ucc/

I'm stuck on the fact that people keep complaining about HAVING to make plane and hotel reservations. Even for the NJ/NYC shows...

Their choice.

Their money.

Their bankruptcy.

I ain't going to the US of A. (political choice)

Academically I get it... I wasn't sure about the fairness of it.

Thanks, tho.

prince doesn't set the price, the promotors do. they hire prince to play a gig, they arrange the venue etc, advertise and sell the tickets

and generally when shows are booked, the expectation is for the shows to be mainly full of locals and people from the surrounding area, so ticket prices don't take into consideration the tiny percentage of people who may wish to fly from another country

if you consider the difference between the actual price of ticket and the price you would prefer, and then consider that as a percentage of the cost of travel, accomodation, refreshments, etc, it's not much at all

in real terms you are looking at about £100 flights and £100 hotel, plus say £100 for refreshments and travel to and from airport to hotel and venue etc. i'm not sure your point entirely about prices, but say they were dropped by £30, that's only 10% of your other costs, and when you add the ticket to all your costs to attend, £30 is a small percentage

and 6 to 8 weeks is more than enough time for most people, otherwise the shows would be emtpy. in the past, most people complained that tickets were sold too far in advance for gigs (in general, not specific to prince), for example right now people are buying take that tickets for gigs next year, or t in the park tickets literally a year in advance

in a nutshell, your concerns aren't shared by the vast majority of concert goers. promotors can't realistically change everything to suit a small number of people who want to travel from other countries. most people don't have the luxury of being able to do that

instead of spending so much money and complaining about the cost, why don't you wait until he comes back to play in your country?

The Antwerp prices aren't insane, the pound isn't used in Belgium and if you think it's too expensive, go to Arnhem, since those prices are not as high (at least not the higher prices, like the Golden Pit).

And if you choose to go by plane and book a hotel, that's none of Prince's business. He plays in a country to play for the people who live there.

I know I'm going get shit from the fams for comparisons but here goes anyway.....

If you look at the current big shows doing the rounds ( let's say, Lady GaGa, Roger Waters....) the basic ticket prices are either less expensive that Prince or, at worst, the same ( I won't mention VIP packages).

The difference is, that the artists mentioned are also giving an amazing stage show to their fans.

From what I understand, Prince is just doing a basic show with a screen (wow!).

No wonder his shows are far from selling out....the general public will just not be blown away by his shows ( and I imagine even a lot of fans are less than blown away by the same old songs and that amateur, Shelby).

I've also noticed a thread complaning how passive the audiences have been recently.

Maybe they're just a bit bored????

udo said:

chocolate1 said:

I'm not sure about the conversion part...

http://www.xe.com/ucc/

I'm stuck on the fact that people keep complaining about HAVING to make plane and hotel reservations. Even for the NJ/NYC shows...

Their choice.

Their money.

Their bankruptcy.

I ain't going to the US of A. (political choice)

What political choices would stop you going to the USA???

eireboy34 said:

The difference is, that the artists mentioned are also giving an amazing stage show to their fans.

From what I understand, Prince is just doing a basic show with a screen (wow!).

It just depends what you're after.

If you want a light and sound show, packed with special effects and costumes and massives sets, etc... go see Gaga & Co.

If you want to see actual musicians, go to a Prince concert.

Prince fee and therefore concert is overpriced. However, if he gets away with it, why shouldn't he?

I spend my money on Antwerp concert, and probably feel sorry in a few days/weeks, depending on the evening. That will be a good lesson: Prince is just an addiction and if not worth the money, don't go next time.

Madonna concert is exceeding Prince in every possible way. She respects her fans and really makes an effort to perform. And now that he's performing, let's give him a chance. When it's not worth the money, don't go next concert tour.....

unique said:

prince doesn't set the price, the promotors do. they hire prince to play a gig, they arrange the venue etc, advertise and sell the tickets

and generally when shows are booked, the expectation is for the shows to be mainly full of locals and people from the surrounding area, so ticket prices don't take into consideration the tiny percentage of people who may wish to fly from another country

if you consider the difference between the actual price of ticket and the price you would prefer, and then consider that as a percentage of the cost of travel, accomodation, refreshments, etc, it's not much at all

in real terms you are looking at about £100 flights and £100 hotel, plus say £100 for refreshments and travel to and from airport to hotel and venue etc. i'm not sure your point entirely about prices, but say they were dropped by £30, that's only 10% of your other costs, and when you add the ticket to all your costs to attend, £30 is a small percentage

and 6 to 8 weeks is more than enough time for most people, otherwise the shows would be emtpy. in the past, most people complained that tickets were sold too far in advance for gigs (in general, not specific to prince), for example right now people are buying take that tickets for gigs next year, or t in the park tickets literally a year in advance

in a nutshell, your concerns aren't shared by the vast majority of concert goers. promotors can't realistically change everything to suit a small number of people who want to travel from other countries. most people don't have the luxury of being able to do that

instead of spending so much money and complaining about the cost, why don't you wait until he comes back to play in your country?

Have a fun enjoyable wkend. Dance ur buns off @ the concerts.

Love is the Key 2B free.

[Edited 8/12/11 6:36am]

dJJ said:

Prince fee and therefore concert is overpriced. However, if he gets away with it, why shouldn't he?

I spend my money on Antwerp concert, and probably feel sorry in a few days/weeks, depending on the evening. That will be a good lesson: Prince is just an addiction and if not worth the money, don't go next time.

Madonna concert is exceeding Prince in every possible way. She respects her fans and really makes an effort to perform. And now that he's performing, let's give him a chance. When it's not worth the money, don't go next concert tour.....

Touche!!!

well i am in the USA. but living in MT puts me out of touch with any venue, and I am sorry that I think $750 is a bit spendy, or that all the cheap tickets were eaten up immediately. I wanted to do something special with my husband and daughter before she wouldnt be able to see him tour, and before I was dead...from cancer. thank you to all the hostile assholes out there who look at it from all sides. I appreciate it!

unique said:

prince doesn't set the price, the promotors do. they hire prince to play a gig, they arrange the venue etc, advertise and sell the tickets

ticket price is based on artist fee + other costs. Guess what? When you have LESS THAN A WEEK to organize a gig, costs are high.

instead of spending so much money and complaining about the cost, why don't you wait until he comes back to play in your country?

I don't get why people feel any desire to go to these gigs (same bland set list, slightly different half-assed band), but considering he hasn't performed in some countries for nearly a decade...

lizard69 said:

well i am in the USA. but living in MT puts me out of touch with any venue, and I am sorry that I think $750 is a bit spendy, or that all the cheap tickets were eaten up immediately. I wanted to do something special with my husband and daughter before she wouldnt be able to see him tour, and before I was dead...from cancer. thank you to all the hostile assholes out there who look at it from all sides. I appreciate it!

Whoa!

I was sorry to read about your illness...

But you know what, tho? You're the one who started a thread that seemed like you just wanted to whine arbitrarily about the prices.

You did not mention your reasons for wanting to go to a show... so you just came off like a "brat".

Why would you fly to Europe if you can still get tix (decent ones) in New Jersey?

If you just " wanted to do something special with my husband and daughter before she wouldn't be able to see him tour..." then moderately-priced tix are available at the IZOD Center.

The name-calling was unnecessary...

Brussels pre-show price as unfair!

It was a 100 EURO!

100.00 EUR = 140.670 USD

Did we discuss the Bergen (Norway) ticket pricing?

So stop complaining an pay up.

Chiquetet said:

eireboy34 said:

The difference is, that the artists mentioned are also giving an amazing stage show to their fans.

From what I understand, Prince is just doing a basic show with a screen (wow!).

It just depends what you're after.

If you want a light and sound show, packed with special effects and costumes and massives sets, etc... go see Gaga & Co.

If you want to see actual musicians, go to a Prince concert.

Well I think we would consider Roger Waters and his band as actual musicians!

Gaga, despite the numerous costume changes , has talent!

And, by the way, Prince used to do big shows...and in the past was not averse to using backing tracks ( Nude tour anyone??)

eireboy34 said:

I know I'm going get shit from the fams for comparisons but here goes anyway.....

If you look at the current big shows doing the rounds ( let's say, Lady GaGa, Roger Waters....) the basic ticket prices are either less expensive that Prince or, at worst, the same ( I won't mention VIP packages).

The difference is, that the artists mentioned are also giving an amazing stage show to their fans.

From what I understand, Prince is just doing a basic show with a screen (wow!).

No wonder his shows are far from selling out....the general public will just not be blown away by his shows ( and I imagine even a lot of fans are less than blown away by the same old songs and that amateur, Shelby).

I've also noticed a thread complaning how passive the audiences have been recently.

Maybe they're just a bit bored????

All of the reviews I have read even from 1st time concert attendees have been good save for a few people complaining about the crowd response (WTF).

I also believe the concert promoters set the prices and the think they can get high dollar for P so they go ahead and set the prices high. Not P's fault. I do not believe for one minute the Roger Waters or Lady GaGa are putting on a better show than P. I do believe that P does not have a CD in wide release to promote, he does not give enought notice ahead of time, and we are in hard economic times all things that could effect the attendance at these concerts.

You really need to get off of this Shelby thing. We get it you do not like her. It is not the first time P has given over vocal duties to a back up singer I am just glad she can really sing and he is not just pushing on her looks this is a big step for him he has not really done that since Rosie Gains but people who do not like RnB singing complained about her too. So nothing new going on with P fans.

laurarichardson said:

eireboy34 said:

I know I'm going get shit from the fams for comparisons but here goes anyway.....

If you look at the current big shows doing the rounds ( let's say, Lady GaGa, Roger Waters....) the basic ticket prices are either less expensive that Prince or, at worst, the same ( I won't mention VIP packages).

The difference is, that the artists mentioned are also giving an amazing stage show to their fans.

From what I understand, Prince is just doing a basic show with a screen (wow!).

No wonder his shows are far from selling out....the general public will just not be blown away by his shows ( and I imagine even a lot of fans are less than blown away by the same old songs and that amateur, Shelby).

I've also noticed a thread complaning how passive the audiences have been recently.

Maybe they're just a bit bored????

All of the reviews I have read even from 1st time concert attendees have been good save for a few people complaining about the crowd response (WTF).

I also believe the concert promoters set the prices and the think they can get high dollar for P so they go ahead and set the prices high. Not P's fault. I do not believe for one minute the Roger Waters or Lady GaGa are putting on a better show than P. I do believe that P does not have a CD in wide release to promote, he does not give enought notice ahead of time, and we are in hard economic times all things that could effect the attendance at these concerts.

You really need to get off of this Shelby thing. We get it you do not like her. It is not the first time P has given over vocal duties to a back up singer I am just glad she can really sing and he is not just pushing on her looks this is a big step for him he has not really done that since Rosie Gains but people who do not like RnB singing complained about her too. So nothing new going on with P fans.

whilst i admit i'm a floyd fan, i must say the current roger waters tour is one of the most amazing fucking things i've ever seen. roger was the one who wanted the big stage show, and this time he's pulled out all the stops. there are a few excellent quality dvds of some of the recent shows, audience shot, but some of the best quality audience shot dvds i've ever seen, almost pro shot quality, even the sound is amazing. have a look on youtube. he builds a huge wall across the stage and has amazing projections and huge puppets, and i mean HUGE. it's a more impressive show than his berlin one

princes show is more basic and relies on his catalogue and musical ability of himself and band, rather than putting on a theatrical type show, whereas gaga and roger aren't changing the music each night as they are sticking to a theatrical style instead, so perhaps a better viewing experience from the back of the venue

It's amazing how nothing negative is ever Prince's fault for some people.

The guy is a saint!

eireboy34 said:

The guy is a saint!

He is.

Can't you see?

He just deserves his dough.

The rest is done by the promtors, etc.

udo said:

eireboy34 said:

The guy is a saint!

He is.

Can't you see?

He just deserves his dough.

The rest is done by the promtors, etc.

In any case, it's all LARRY'S fault!!!

eireboy34 said:

I know I'm going get shit from the fams for comparisons but here goes anyway.....

If you look at the current big shows doing the rounds ( let's say, Lady GaGa, Roger Waters....) the basic ticket prices are either less expensive that Prince or, at worst, the same ( I won't mention VIP packages).

The difference is, that the artists mentioned are also giving an amazing stage show to their fans.

From what I understand, Prince is just doing a basic show with a screen (wow!).

No wonder his shows are far from selling out....the general public will just not be blown away by his shows ( and I imagine even a lot of fans are less than blown away by the same old songs and that amateur, Shelby).

I've also noticed a thread complaning how passive the audiences have been recently.

Maybe they're just a bit bored????

Actually, Prince's ticket prices are in line with the standard nowadays. Lady GaGa's MSG tickets are more than Prince's. Have you checked the prices for Usher featuring Trey Songz at MSG on 12/13 and 12/14? The lowest level VIP package tickets are $250 each and have you in the 100 section seats. I paid less than that for Prince and I am in section 40. The highest level VIP tix are $875. Kings of Leon are charging $299 for GA "Closer Experience" tix. I just paid about $200 to see Sade in Chicago at the United Center next year.

With all due respect, even on his worse night, I think Prince gives a far better show than either Lady GaGa or Roger Waters musically. I take nothing away from Roger Waters, but musically for me he does not offer what Prince does. As far as GaGa goes, I would rather see Prince stand in one spot and play guitar for two hours than watch Lady GaGa lip sync most of her show (not all) and change outfits 20 times. However, if you are into theatrics maybe you should buy some GaGa tix and call it a day. Nothing wrong with personal preference.

[Edited 11/7/10 11:39am]

laurarichardson said:

eireboy34 said:

I know I'm going get shit from the fams for comparisons but here goes anyway.....

If you look at the current big shows doing the rounds ( let's say, Lady GaGa, Roger Waters....) the basic ticket prices are either less expensive that Prince or, at worst, the same ( I won't mention VIP packages).

The difference is, that the artists mentioned are also giving an amazing stage show to their fans.

From what I understand, Prince is just doing a basic show with a screen (wow!).

No wonder his shows are far from selling out....the general public will just not be blown away by his shows ( and I imagine even a lot of fans are less than blown away by the same old songs and that amateur, Shelby).

I've also noticed a thread complaning how passive the audiences have been recently.

Maybe they're just a bit bored????

All of the reviews I have read even from 1st time concert attendees have been good save for a few people complaining about the crowd response (WTF).

I also believe the concert promoters set the prices and the think they can get high dollar for P so they go ahead and set the prices high. Not P's fault. I do not believe for one minute the Roger Waters or Lady GaGa are putting on a better show than P. I do believe that P does not have a CD in wide release to promote, he does not give enought notice ahead of time, and we are in hard economic times all things that could effect the attendance at these concerts.

You really need to get off of this Shelby thing. We get it you do not like her. It is not the first time P has given over vocal duties to a back up singer I am just glad she can really sing and he is not just pushing on her looks this is a big step for him he has not really done that since Rosie Gains but people who do not like RnB singing complained about her too. So nothing new going on with P fans.

You said that. I notice many fans on this site do not like RnB, and have no problem trashing anything Prince does that sounds remotely RnB or any artists he surrounds himself with who sound RnB. People were dogging Mint Condition like they were a HS talent show band. I have seen Stokely live and he was fantastic. I just have to remember to keep what I read here in context.

bellanoche said:

eireboy34 said:

I know I'm going get shit from the fams for comparisons but here goes anyway.....

If you look at the current big shows doing the rounds ( let's say, Lady GaGa, Roger Waters....) the basic ticket prices are either less expensive that Prince or, at worst, the same ( I won't mention VIP packages).

The difference is, that the artists mentioned are also giving an amazing stage show to their fans.

From what I understand, Prince is just doing a basic show with a screen (wow!).

No wonder his shows are far from selling out....the general public will just not be blown away by his shows ( and I imagine even a lot of fans are less than blown away by the same old songs and that amateur, Shelby).

I've also noticed a thread complaning how passive the audiences have been recently.

Maybe they're just a bit bored????

Actually, Prince's ticket prices are in line with the standard nowadays. Lady GaGa's MSG tickets are more than Prince's. Have you checked the prices for Usher featuring Trey Songz at MSG on 12/13 and 12/14? The lowest level VIP package tickets are $250 each and have you in the 100 section seats. I paid less than that for Prince and I am in section 40. The highest level VIP tix are $875. Kings of Leon are charging $299 for GA "Closer Experience" tix. I just paid about $200 to see Sade in Chicago at the United Center next year.

With all due respect, even on his worse night, I think Prince gives a far better show than either Lady GaGa or Roger Waters musically. I take nothing away from Roger Waters, but musically for me he does not offer what Prince does. As far as GaGa goes, I would rather see Prince stand in one spot and play guitar for two hours than watch Lady GaGa lip sync most of her show (not all) and change outfits 20 times. However, if you are into theatrics maybe you should buy some GaGa tix and call it a day. Nothing wrong with personal preference.

[Edited 11/7/10 11:39am]

Points taken, even though my argument was outside the total rip off of "VIP" (read "sad corporate") tickets.

So, tell me, do you think Prince is charging a fair price for tics??

I don't think anyone is......but at least some are giving all they've got.

This, as we know, is NOT what P has been doing for the past couple of years ( he's getting past it, maybe??).

Hey do you want to hear great music or see a firework with somebody that can't even play an instrument ( Madonna )

it's the same with eating. Are you ready to taste new things that are homemade or do you want abig show and MacDonalds.

Your choice but stop complaining if you don't get your Bic Mac at Bocuse

Well,I learned my lesson well....

For me 80 euros for a ticket and travel costs is a lot of money at the moment. I stood in the back and was able to see the show on the screen. Next time I'll just buy the dvd, then I actually can see something and keep my money in my pocket.

Furthermore, it doesn't matter what your taste is in music, it's about the availability. Is music and culture just available for the rich?

Being able to actually see the artist on stage when attending the concert, seems just to be for the rich who can afford a (vip) ticket. Seeing an artist perform is similar as wearing designer clothes and purchasing gadgets, only for the rich. I really don't care about any label clothes and other unnecessary stuf. I do miss to see great artists and good plays and performances. However, I don't want to give up my low-paying however really satisfying job. So I guess I have to stop nagging and complaining and just live with the consequence of my own choice.