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New topic PrintableFor me, I don;t care what he plays when he comes (and he will come as we got the best venue hall I know) to GR Michigan since I haven't been to as many concerts as some of you. So Come On, Prince, if the other fans don't please you,; come around my way. Prince's Sarah | |
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Lovesymbol2 said: Poor prince, Wanted to bring lots of entertainment to the people and the damn engineers fucked up
true... Love God. Love Music. Love Life. | |
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ONLY Prince can do so many per4mances in 1 nite...eye could never muster the nrg 4 SO much! Eye'd b xhausted after 7 hour drama rehearsals...imagine singing, dancing and playing an instrument! | |
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Lovesymbol2 said: Poor prince, Wanted to bring lots of entertainment to the people and the damn engineers fucked up
Bigtime - he tried his best though even though Nokia's engineers sucked ASSSSS Really, how many times did they run back and forth behind the Lotusflow3r backdrop at the 1st show? They were running their butts off obviously in numerous attempts to fix the on-going issues, and still, after 90 minutes they were unsuccessful Makes you wonder how much experience their employees have?? Its really sad because the entire complex is so beautiful, but this whole debacle will really give them a bad name. I don't think we'll ever pay $$$ to see any show(s) there again in the future. | |
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Are ppl actually pissed that Prince played hits even after sayin he won't ?... Whether it was 2004 or present?
Why would something so trivial be so upsetting to ppl is wat I don't get In this particular 3 shows in 1 night --- he tried to mix it up to give everyone a lil bit o' satisfaction. Some hits, some new, some (according to some ppl) he hasn't done live in a very long time. I swear the words "HATER" is wayyy over-rated...smh | |
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Folks, relax.
First all the criticism with the new site, now it's running quite well and ain't nobody mentioning no more.. Then he throws 3 albums at once at his fans, more criticism, now folks are criticizing while playing MPLS... strange indeed.. Now he's doing an awesome promo job playing 3 shows one night, and still it's not right. Too many hits, not enough hits, too many covers, man, what's he gonna do to make you feel good about being a fan? Do you really want to order shows exactly like you want em? Don't you think that would be quite boring as well? To get the facts str8, just some sorting here (all 3 shows): Hits: Purple Rain 1999 I Feel For You Controversy Shhh If I Was Your Girlfriend Kiss Let's Go Crazy The Bird / Jungle Love The Glamorous Life Peach Guitar Insatiable The Beautiful Ones Nothing Compares 2 U New songs (that's what promo concerts are about as well, right?): Ol' Skool Company Crimson And Clover Colonized Mind Dreamer Cover versions: Play That Funky Music White Boy Hollywood Swinging Come Together With A Little Help From My Friends All Shook Up Spanish Castle Magic Older songs, outtakes, rare tracks, some never played live before: I’m Yours I Like It There Chaos And Disorder Empty Room When You Were Mine Under The Cherry Moon Dreamin' About U When Eye Lay My Hands On U Journey To The Center Of Your Heart The Sun, The Moon And Stars Sometimes It Snows In April (OK, call it a hit..) When The Lights Go Down I Love U But I Don’t Trust U Anymore She Spoke To Me A Large Room With No Light Sweet Thing Scandalous Now we could go on for hours discussing whether "Peach" or "Insatiable" are considered "hits" or not, or whether you allow your favourite artist to do some covers for some time after touring for almost 30 years, but after the dust has cleared, I think we all could agree on the setlists played recently being a nice mixture of everything, no? I was a little confused by the "hits" discussion, since I've never seen a setlist with so many rare tracks and outtakes since years... So take this as some personal input to the buzz.. Peace, DissCo [Edited 3/29/09 18:31pm] | |
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murph said: swanny said: I seen it. And there are plenty on there. He is the Cher of touring for men. Nah...you could not have looked at the set list...lol....Because I didn't see a bunch of hits...In fact, the LA Times review of those shows made it a point to say Prince did a lot of obscure songs and album cuts...I mean when was the last time he played these songs live?: if i was your girlfriend Empty Room Under The Cherry Moon Dreaming Of U Lay U're Hands On Me The Sun, The Moon And Stars Sometimes It Snows In April I Like it There I Love U But I Don’t Trust U Anymore She Spoke To Me Chaos & Disorder A Large Room With No Light I'm Yours (from the first Prince album...He hasn't done this song in over 25 plus years...lol) Scandalous And all this was done with left field covers like Elvis' "All shook Up" (folks are saying that he injected soul into this one...) and a smart cover of Jimi's "Spanish Magic.."along with some of the "hits" and new songs... Again, there is nothing wrong with having smart criticism about Prince....People catch too much shit on this site for attempting to have a strong debate about the man... But when folks like yourself start posting up stuff that's just not true (this is not about whether or not you liked the performance...This is about posting bullshit just to make a few Sonny & Cher jokes...lol...but in order for it to be funny in this instance, it has to be truthful...and you are full of shit...Ha!) it gives the folks who are sincerely critical of Prince on this board a bad name... Very Well said Murph!!! | |
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FunkyDissCo said: Folks, relax.
First all the criticism with the new site, now it's running quite well and ain't nobody mentioning no more.. Then he throws 3 albums at once at his fans, more criticism, now folks are criticizing while playing MPLS... strange indeed.. Now he's doing an awesome promo job playing 3 shows one night, and still it's not right. Too many hits, not enough hits, too many covers, man, what's he gonna do to make you feel good about being a fan? Do you really want to order shows exactly like you want em? Don't you think that would be quite boring as well? To get the facts str8, just some sorting here (all 3 shows): Hits: Purple Rain 1999 I Feel For You Controversy Shhh If I Was Your Girlfriend Kiss Let's Go Crazy The Bird / Jungle Love The Glamorous Life Peach Guitar Insatiable The Beautiful Ones Nothing Compares 2 U New songs (that's what promo concerts are about as well, right?): Ol' Skool Company Crimson And Clover Colonized Mind I Like It There Dreamer Cover versions: Play That Funky Music White Boy Hollywood Swinging Come Together With A Little Help From My Friends All Shook Up Spanish Castle Magic Older songs, outtakes, rare tracks, some never played live before: I’m Yours Chaos And Disorder Empty Room When You Were Mine Under The Cherry Moon Dreamin' About U When Eye Lay My Hands On U Journey To The Center Of Your Heart The Sun, The Moon And Stars Sometimes It Snows In April (OK, call it a hit..) When The Lights Go Down I Love U But I Don’t Trust U Anymore She Spoke To Me A Large Room With No Light Sweet Thing Scandalous Now we could go on for hours discussing whether "Peach" or "Insatiable" are considered "hits" or not, or whether you allow your favourite artist to do some covers for some time after touring for almost 30 years, but after the dust has cleared, I think we all could agree on the setlists played recently being a nice mixture of everything, no? I was a little confused by the "hits" discussion, since I've never seen a setlist with so many rare tracks and outtakes since years... So take this as some personal input to the buzz.. Peace, DissCo Sounds Very Good to Me, A Nice Mixture!!! No matter what he does their will always be a few Arseholes! | |
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I wish I went to the first show. He played most of the songs I like and I love Sheila E. I can't believe I missed that. I went to the 3rd show but I think I would have liked the first show better. | |
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Does anyone know how the instrument setup/transfers were done? Like, did they have 3 drum kits set up or did they have to break stuff down and move it? | |
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I would SOOOO not want to be in AEG's shoes...when you have Prince telling you your sound sucks, that's pretty bad. | |
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violetaura said: I went to the Nokia last month to see Tina Marie & The Time.While Tina was performing there was a MAJOR sound issue!So it is not just with Prince!Nokia needs to get their sound guys/system together!!!!Get with it!And yes I have a bone to pick with Prince for performing those songs at the Nokia Club without me & 2 have Chaka!Grrrrr!BUt I still love the man!Just crying over missing the shows!lmao Thanks for the reports
there there for missing the shows... | |
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PurpleRain747 said: ONLY Prince can do so many per4mances in 1 nite...eye could never muster the nrg 4 SO much! Eye'd b xhausted after 7 hour drama rehearsals...imagine singing, dancing and playing an instrument!
I think that is why he had to have three bands! Who could keep up? Wake up!......Wake up! | |
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Astasheiks said:[quote] FunkyDissCo said: Folks, relax.
First all the criticism with the new site, now it's running quite well and ain't nobody mentioning no more.. Then he throws 3 albums at once at his fans, more criticism, now folks are criticizing while playing MPLS... strange indeed.. Now he's doing an awesome promo job playing 3 shows one night, and still it's not right. Too many hits, not enough hits, too many covers, man, what's he gonna do to make you feel good about being a fan? Do you really want to order shows exactly like you want em? Don't you think that would be quite boring as well? To get the facts str8, just some sorting here (all 3 shows): Hits: Purple Rain 1999 I Feel For You Controversy Shhh If I Was Your Girlfriend Kiss Let's Go Crazy The Bird / Jungle Love The Glamorous Life Peach Guitar Insatiable The Beautiful Ones Nothing Compares 2 U New songs (that's what promo concerts are about as well, right?): Ol' Skool Company Crimson And Clover Colonized Mind I Like It There Dreamer Cover versions: Play That Funky Music White Boy Hollywood Swinging Come Together With A Little Help From My Friends All Shook Up Spanish Castle Magic Older songs, outtakes, rare tracks, some never played live before: I’m Yours Chaos And Disorder Empty Room When You Were Mine Under The Cherry Moon Dreamin' About U When Eye Lay My Hands On U Journey To The Center Of Your Heart The Sun, The Moon And Stars Sometimes It Snows In April (OK, call it a hit..) When The Lights Go Down I Love U But I Don’t Trust U Anymore She Spoke To Me A Large Room With No Light Sweet Thing Scandalous Now we could go on for hours discussing whether "Peach" or "Insatiable" are considered "hits" or not, or whether you allow your favourite artist to do some covers for some time after touring for almost 30 years, but after the dust has cleared, I think we all could agree on the setlists played recently being a nice mixture of everything, no? I was a little confused by the "hits" discussion, since I've never seen a setlist with so many rare tracks and outtakes since years... So take this as some personal input to the buzz.. Peace, DissCo Sounds Very Good to Me, A Nice Mixture!!! I agree! This is an awesome list... with a little bit of everything. Prince fans are so spoiled! I know the sound was off, but holy cow, they still got to see some live music many of us have only dreamed about! Get over your bad selves and start focusing on the positive! Wake up!......Wake up! | |
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eaglebear4839 said: I would SOOOO not want to be in AEG's shoes...when you have Prince telling you your sound sucks, that's pretty bad.
I don't think Prince cares all that much. He might now that it made it into print, but honestly Prince hasn't had good sound since Scotty left (post 2002). ONA live sounded amazing, and the Musicology tour was a major downturn from that level of quality. Most surprising to me, and what really lead me to believe Prince doesn't care all that much about the quality of his live system and mix, was that his stationary setup in Vegas was well below what is possible at that venue, and never inproved over the months that he performed there. "this especially prepared potato is called pomme de terre" | |
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ah few occur to me to be prfEct. So don't worry about it. It' syu. Who? U who are 4ever doing it. Stop.
I know. I just was through that tonight. Tried to blame someone, but the only person around wuz me. So. Monitor your own self and then you won't haf ta be blind to the pitfalls. K? Hahhahaa. Love ya. | |
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laurarichardson said: swanny said: I seen it. And there are plenty on there. He is the Cher of touring for men. ----- Stop being ignorant. Plenty of hits as well as rarely played gems. Seems he tried to do something for everyone. No idioit is going to do a whole concert of rare songs. Thanks for the common sense. It is just dumb to bad mouth Prince for playing hits. | |
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now if the lotus would just grant us the videos from those shows. i mean damn, a large room with no light and i'm yours, journey to the center of your heart, come on... when he goes on tour, these songs need to be added to the set list. but maybe by the time he gets his arena tour together, those 3 sets will be the set list for that show. cuz it was about 2 and a half or 3 hours of performances.
1 can only hope... | |
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The 3 LA shows are in today's "Big Picture" features on the BBC website entertainment news. Click on The Big Picture halfway down the right hand side.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/h...efault.stm Just somewhere in the middle,
Not too good and not too bad. | |
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Brofie said: Thanks for the common sense. It is just dumb to bad mouth Prince for playing hits.
I don't have a problem with him playing the hits, crikey I saw 8 of the O2 gigs in 2007. I just wish we could get away from the whole hits for the last time statements. Its inaccurate and makes him look him look desperate for ticket sales. | |
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Prince said "fix it..and I'll do it for free"
This i believe he would do.....All u closed minded people are in the dark....Wake up...Prince is trying to spread a message...He gives not a Damn about money and has not cared for money for a long long tyme.U all need 2 recognize that he is got an important story to tell...go back and listen to every CD in order and open your ignorant ears. | |
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bobbyc17 said: Prince said "fix it..and I'll do it for free"
This i believe he would do.....All u closed minded people are in the dark....Wake up...Prince is trying to spread a message...He gives not a Damn about money and has not cared for money for a long long tyme.U all need 2 recognize that he is got an important story to tell...go back and listen to every CD in order and open your ignorant ears. Lol. | |
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Such great set lists! Too bad about the sound problems but I'm sure still sounded good. Been to many shows by others and my own boyfriend's band, most of the audience doesnt even notice technical problems unless totally outrageous. So while I'm sure P was pissed if he couldnt hear himself and band, it probably sounded good out front and I doubt there were many complaints by audience. I am interested to know if any in attendence did notice the sound being that off (that it drove P to complain). Any input by those in attendence on how the sound was to them?
As I've said here before, I saw P at Empire Ball Room in Vegas couple years ago and he was pissed about the sound there also... really complained, though jokingly to start, about soundman/mens skills and finally stated that if you want something done right you had to "do it yourself." He seemed so bothered by the sound that night that it really affected the mood of the show, and one could visibly see that he didnt relax and enjoy himself that night like I have been fortunate to witness him do so on many other occassions (I also have to mention that this show was shortly after his public split from Manuela so overall he may not have been in most happy/pleasant frame of mind to begin). We all know P is a perfectionist and wants things done his way, so I've got to think this sound issue, being to the point of him throwing out names by the end of the night, had to really affect the feel of the shows. Kudos to P though for pulling off this feat, because anyone in music knows how hard it is to make sure that the sound is just right at one show venue on any given day, let alone 3 different venues. What other musician is going to bring this much to their fans? I hear a lot of complaints about P, but I think it is evident he appreciates his fans and truly loves to share his passion/joy with us. | |
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Just a thought ... but why did he not just do a soundcheck at the 3 venues the day before... or the morning of?
People paid hundreds of dollars to sit through a soundcheck at the second show? Me not being at any of the shows I wouldn't like to comment at how bad the sound really was.... But for such a huge artist this is basic stuff right? If he knew that the sound was known for being bad ... why not spend a little time and money to make sure it's right on the night ... maybe even bring in your own PA system for a night. ...It's only the launch night for your new album, yeah who cares if the press just focuses on how bad the sound was ha-ha. I think a manager is in need .... I know Prince thrives on being this free spirit, but it might help if there is someone in the Prince camp who can channel your ideas into normality business. Have you ever heard of a major act complaining about the concert promoters sound set up while performing ? | |
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xlr8r said: You do realize your posting to swanny-nigel swan. He is like OKP's maxxx regarding Prince/R Kelly murph. Dont even bother. WTF are you talking about ghey boy? | |
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rockyraccoon said: now if the lotus would just grant us the videos from those shows. i mean damn, a large room with no light and i'm yours, journey to the center of your heart, come on... when he goes on tour, these songs need to be added to the set list. but maybe by the time he gets his arena tour together, those 3 sets will be the set list for that show. cuz it was about 2 and a half or 3 hours of performances.
1 can only hope... A high quality audio download would be good... although the bad sound" comments may make this not such a good idea... We ain't from Hollywood, so you know it's all good | |
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micknme said: Such great set lists! Too bad about the sound problems but I'm sure still sounded good. Been to many shows by others and my own boyfriend's band, most of the audience doesnt even notice technical problems unless totally outrageous. So while I'm sure P was pissed if he couldnt hear himself and band, it probably sounded good out front and I doubt there were many complaints by audience. I am interested to know if any in attendence did notice the sound being that off (that it drove P to complain). Any input by those in attendence on how the sound was to them? I hear a lot of complaints about P, but I think it is evident he appreciates his fans and truly loves to share his passion/joy with us.
We attended 2 shows Nokia Theatre and Club Nokia. At the first show, from our center loge seats, we didn’t hear most of the sound problems. My husband’s brother had 5th row member tix though and he said they heard some of the mic / speaker problems (he still walked away from it though saying how fantastic the show was and he has seen 14 Prince shows over the past 25 years) The biggest thing Prince complained about at this show was the fact that HIS monitors were not working. As for Club Nokia, we heard some humming/buzzing from his mic on occasion, but again, I think Prince was hearing much more of it from his vantage point. Even Chaka agreed with him on the sound issues she mentioned it right before she walked off the stage and then Prince looked at the crowd and said, "I TOLD YA!" In my opinion, his voice sounded as magnificent as ever...still brought tears to my eyes when he sang The Beautiful Ones, Scandalous, and Insatiable so beautifully | |
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was at all 3 shows and frankly thought they were AMAZING if you look past the sound issues. He played IN A LARGE ROOM WITH NO LIGHT!! come on! That ALONE was priceless. It was brilliant the way each set had a different musical theme: The NPG kicking butt as usual, then Mike and Sonny (HELLO?) and Rhonda, Renato and John Blackwell? Wow. It would be hard to top this night (other than the same thing with better sound, of course)>
What's with reporters who can't even bother to get people's names right? All they did was basically go to a concert they know nothing about and tweet stuff without even bothering to find out the names of songs or band members. Lazy. May as well grab any random schmuck off the street to do that. open yo mind, the entire universe you'll find
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swanny said: murph said: But when folks like yourself start posting up stuff that's just not true (this is not about whether or not you liked the performance...This is about posting bullshit just to make a few Sonny & Cher jokes...lol...but in order for it to be funny in this instance, it has to be truthful...and you are full of shit...Ha!) it gives the folks who are sincerely critical of Prince on this board a bad name... Switch your brain on. NOKIA Theater old skool company crimson and clover 1999 I Feel 4 U controversy shhh if i was your girlfriend kiss play that funky music Hollywood Swinging Harmonica solo Prince speech about loving one another Come Together Purple Rain Lets Go Crazy The Bird Jungle Love The Glamourous Life with Sheila E!!!!! Yeah there really are no hits there? And why are you having a pop at me? I never said I wouldn't play the hits again and then promptly did? I do not know what your problem is swanny, but as someone who went to all three shows, I know that it was not all about the hits. I also know that Prince is smart enough to know what to play where. To make your baseless points, you focused on 1/3 of the night. Of course he was going to play hits at the main show at the biggest venue because it is obvious that the majority of the audience would be casual fans who enjoy the hits. What is he going to do, play rarities and obscure cuts for this kind of crowd? That would be stupid. However, for the smaller venues he did play obscure jams and smart covers. The set lists were perfectly planned for each show and audience. If you had been there, you would have known that. You'd also know it if you could objectively view the facts and post the whole 3-show set list instead of the one that suits your weak argument. Why don't you switch your brain on and switch your bias off? perfection is a fallacy of the imagination... | |
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FunkyDissCo said: Folks, relax.
First all the criticism with the new site, now it's running quite well and ain't nobody mentioning no more.. Then he throws 3 albums at once at his fans, more criticism, now folks are criticizing while playing MPLS... strange indeed.. Now he's doing an awesome promo job playing 3 shows one night, and still it's not right. Too many hits, not enough hits, too many covers, man, what's he gonna do to make you feel good about being a fan? Do you really want to order shows exactly like you want em? Don't you think that would be quite boring as well? To get the facts str8, just some sorting here (all 3 shows): Hits: Purple Rain 1999 I Feel For You Controversy Shhh If I Was Your Girlfriend Kiss Let's Go Crazy The Bird / Jungle Love The Glamorous Life Peach Guitar Insatiable The Beautiful Ones Nothing Compares 2 U New songs (that's what promo concerts are about as well, right?): Ol' Skool Company Crimson And Clover Colonized Mind Dreamer Cover versions: Play That Funky Music White Boy Hollywood Swinging Come Together With A Little Help From My Friends All Shook Up Spanish Castle Magic Older songs, outtakes, rare tracks, some never played live before: I’m Yours I Like It There Chaos And Disorder Empty Room When You Were Mine Under The Cherry Moon Dreamin' About U When Eye Lay My Hands On U Journey To The Center Of Your Heart The Sun, The Moon And Stars Sometimes It Snows In April (OK, call it a hit..) When The Lights Go Down I Love U But I Don’t Trust U Anymore She Spoke To Me A Large Room With No Light Sweet Thing Scandalous Now we could go on for hours discussing whether "Peach" or "Insatiable" are considered "hits" or not, or whether you allow your favourite artist to do some covers for some time after touring for almost 30 years, but after the dust has cleared, I think we all could agree on the setlists played recently being a nice mixture of everything, no? I was a little confused by the "hits" discussion, since I've never seen a setlist with so many rare tracks and outtakes since years... So take this as some personal input to the buzz.. Peace, DissCo [Edited 3/29/09 18:31pm] perfection is a fallacy of the imagination... | |
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