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metalorange said: I gave up going to big concerts in the mid 90s because I always ended up with seats far away from the stage no matter how early I rang up for tickets.
At least back then it was the same for everyone, relatively. You bought tickets and you got what you were allocated, you didn't have the opportunity to guarantee front row or near the front row tickets. From hearing everyone moaning, it does sound like everyone feels they have a god-given right to be on the front row! The VIP packages etc. have at least given the opportunity for good near-the-front seats, something you likely didn't get years ago, so count your blessings, I'm sure those with VIP tickets will get a great view, regardless of whether someone sneaks in front paying an even bigger fortune with some last minute auction or whatever, and tons better than those of us back on normal cheap seats. Just chill, people, you don't have to be stepping on Prince's toes to have a good time. your right, not everyone does, but i fucking well do! i've remortaged the house to see him 42 times front row vip. if i don't get to sleep with the twins at least a couple of times i'll be fucking pissed off | |
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unique said: machinegun said: Why would the boat VIP be behind the non-boat VIP? It made no differentiation at the time of the sale which indicated first 10 rows, otherwise I would have just paid £30 less and bought the non-boat VIP deal....
well if you read the wording carefully, the non vip tix were advertised as the best seats, whilst the boat were advertised in the gold circle but the reason they do this is because the non boat tix vip lounge is in the venue, so those punters r already at the o2, they will get settled in seats first, then the boat ppl will arrive later and take seats behind them, so they aren't having to push past people to take seats the boat tix r more xpensive 2 pay 4 the boat, not 2 get u closer 2 the stage I don't expect to be closer to the stage coz I paid more, just thought that the location would be the same for both types of VIP ticket. I'm sure that at the time there was no authoritive statement and it's changed a few times since anyway. People will be coming in at all sorts of times so the seats wil fill randomly anyway and I;m sure some non boat people will take the seats at all different times, perhaps after some of the boat people so I'm still not convinced, but there's no point with endless speculating, we'll just see on the day. | |
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machinegun said: I don't expect to be closer to the stage coz I paid more, just thought that the location would be the same for both types of VIP ticket. I'm sure that at the time there was no authoritive statement and it's changed a few times since anyway. People will be coming in at all sorts of times so the seats wil fill randomly anyway and I;m sure some non boat people will take the seats at all different times, perhaps after some of the boat people so I'm still not convinced, but there's no point with endless speculating, we'll just see on the day.
the non boat vip folks have the preshow bar and buffet, they would normally expect people spending daft money on tickets to use that facility, if not, then go and sit down early, not turn up late the boat people will all arrive at the same time, they will have it scheduled to shuffle people from the bar to the arena first, then shuffle in the boat people. it all makes sense that way. thats what ticketmaster explained to me on the phone a while back, they do this kind of thing regularly (altho not the boat part) the statements did change later on, but the initial statement indicated the non boat vip were the closest seats, altho i didnt notice it myself until i spoke to ticketmaster, blinded by 15 dates onsale at once and the madness surrounding it all. there are only about 10-15 rows i think in the gold circle, so even back row your going to be close. front row at a gig in the round isn't all it's cracked up to be anyways as the stage is way up high, its like sitting front row in the cinema and having to sit back down in your chair and look up. that what it was like at the musicology shows | |
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I was a member of Controversy before being a member ofthe NPG Music Club. I have had the pleasure of having "special" seats at most of the concerts and have thoroughly enjoyed them all. Tbis tour does seem a different format but I don't think any of us know what is going to happen. My hubby has bought me VIP tickets for one of the shows but for the others I am going to, I took pot luck like everyone else and got my tickets from ticketmaster. I am so looking forward to the shows and hope none of us have cause to complain. It did come as a surprise about the front row seats but so did the o2 customers having first choice of the tickets. Hope the shows are as good as all the others I have been to - don't think I can afford to buy any more tickets for these new shows!!! | |
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Igo2DaMax said: Sorry if this is mentioned elsewhere...
I had a look at Ticketmaster and they're showing "front row auctions" for most of the existing shows. What happened to the first 10 rows being kept for the VIP/cruise packages? Max CALM DOWN PEEPS!! Most artists who perform nowadays also have seat auctions its not just another way to cheat you. TM couldnt tell me to which charity the proceeds of the limited seat auction was going, but you get my drift. On the TM website there is a 'view auction info' button that gives the location of the seats. Description Front Row Floor Seats: Seats in Block E1 Row A 1-17 Minimum Bid Per Ticket £35.00 If someone would be so kind as to stick the 02 seating chart up again you will see that all the tickets are for the same block, no matter what day. It's just one block out of 9 surrouning the stage. Also if the stage plan on the Ticket master site is correct Block E1 is behind the band! Oh the nice lady also let me know that there will be no allocated space to dance at the front of the stage, but you can dance around your seat if you want to One minute they want peace……
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unique said: ZARIA7ETAN said: I think this front row auction for the London shows is an absolute disgrace and another insult to those of us who have parted with hard earned cash to pay for VIP packages which were advertised firstly as being seats in the first 10 rows of the floor level.
This suddenly changed to 'gold circle' seating which encompassed the first 10 rows of the lower side tiers. Now we are informed that there will be no potential for any VIP ticket holder to be in the front row at all. That's some serious bullshit. I'm totally disillusioned. but you might get what you paid for... if you bought tix when it said one thing, thats what you get... thus if you bought when it said "front row" or whatever, you get front row if you bought when it said "first 10 rows" thats what you get follow me? so as each tier of good seats sold out, the wording was changed. tickets should be allocated on a first come first served basis, so the earlier you booked the closer you should be the front row auction tickets may be front row in the lower tier, which is different from the gold circle aka vip tickets so until your seats are allocated, or you even have your tickets, or perhaps even until you are in your seats, you have nothing to worry about you can always call ticketmaster customer service who can be helpful if you talk to them nicely. they explained the vip non boat tix were going to be first 10 rows in the gold circle, and boat vip tix behind them, all to be allocated closer the time. i presume after the floor seats sold out they added more vip/higher price tickets for the front rows of the lower floor. for normal punters, those seats along with the bar and buffet would normally be great, it's just the fans that get annoyed if they aren't actually on the stage with prince, or he is in the audience with them What you are saying makes sense Unique. I hope that it turns out to be true, but Ticketmaster seem incapable of giving out any clear and consistent answers. I don't wanna be on stage with Prince, well actually I do I just want to get what I paid for! | |
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unique said: if i don't get to sleep with the twins at least a couple of times i'll be fucking pissed off
Oh, no, you di'nt! Back off, them Twinzes is mine, mutha fucka, mine! | |
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wonder505 said: Savage said: I'm becoming more and more disillusioned by all this. It's wearing me out.
What happened to the NPGMC fan club members special seats? We were robbed then and now we are being robbed again. I feel a very strong letter being sent to Paisley park studios F.A.O . Prince Maybe he'll listen to how messed up he is making us all! how were we robbed with the NPGMC seats? i thought those were good. Because some of us joined and he never played again. Hence some of us didn't get the priviledge of priority tickets. Plus I lost the vids I paid for! http://www.myspace.com/savage1999uk
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CJBabyDaddy said: unique said: if i don't get to sleep with the twins at least a couple of times i'll be fucking pissed off
Oh, no, you di'nt! Back off, them Twinzes is mine, mutha fucka, mine! i was first, u can have shelby and tamar! | |
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unique said: ZARIA7ETAN said: I think this front row auction for the London shows is an absolute disgrace and another insult to those of us who have parted with hard earned cash to pay for VIP packages which were advertised firstly as being seats in the first 10 rows of the floor level.
This suddenly changed to 'gold circle' seating which encompassed the first 10 rows of the lower side tiers. Now we are informed that there will be no potential for any VIP ticket holder to be in the front row at all. That's some serious bullshit. I'm totally disillusioned. but you might get what you paid for... if you bought tix when it said one thing, thats what you get... thus if you bought when it said "front row" or whatever, you get front row if you bought when it said "first 10 rows" thats what you get follow me? so as each tier of good seats sold out, the wording was changed. tickets should be allocated on a first come first served basis, so the earlier you booked the closer you should be the front row auction tickets may be front row in the lower tier, which is different from the gold circle aka vip tickets so until your seats are allocated, or you even have your tickets, or perhaps even until you are in your seats, you have nothing to worry about you can always call ticketmaster customer service who can be helpful if you talk to them nicely. they explained the vip non boat tix were going to be first 10 rows in the gold circle, and boat vip tix behind them, all to be allocated closer the time. i presume after the floor seats sold out they added more vip/higher price tickets for the front rows of the lower floor. for normal punters, those seats along with the bar and buffet would normally be great, it's just the fans that get annoyed if they aren't actually on the stage with prince, or he is in the audience with them i don't think that is what they are saying on their website though as in the 'more info' section of the VIP boat tickets it states 'VIP Thames Cruise With Gold Circle Seating in the first 10 rows on the floor. Embark Silver Sturgeon at the Savoy Pier at 6pm. enjoy a deck top party with DJ's, Buffet & Complimentary Bar. Transfer to the O2 Pier then to your Gold Circle Seats.' for the VIP reception it states 'Enjoy a pre-show party in The White Bar, with Buffet, complimentary drinks and entertainment. Transfer to the very best seats within the first 10 rows on the floor and first 10 rows in the Mid Tiers.' [Edited 6/12/07 13:13pm] [Edited 6/12/07 13:14pm] Feel free to send me a message and add me as a friend on 'My Space' http://www.myspace.com/murtazaarif | |
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Crystal777Ball said: unique said: but you might get what you paid for... if you bought tix when it said one thing, thats what you get... thus if you bought when it said "front row" or whatever, you get front row if you bought when it said "first 10 rows" thats what you get follow me? so as each tier of good seats sold out, the wording was changed. tickets should be allocated on a first come first served basis, so the earlier you booked the closer you should be the front row auction tickets may be front row in the lower tier, which is different from the gold circle aka vip tickets so until your seats are allocated, or you even have your tickets, or perhaps even until you are in your seats, you have nothing to worry about you can always call ticketmaster customer service who can be helpful if you talk to them nicely. they explained the vip non boat tix were going to be first 10 rows in the gold circle, and boat vip tix behind them, all to be allocated closer the time. i presume after the floor seats sold out they added more vip/higher price tickets for the front rows of the lower floor. for normal punters, those seats along with the bar and buffet would normally be great, it's just the fans that get annoyed if they aren't actually on the stage with prince, or he is in the audience with them i don't think that is what they are saying on their website though as in the 'more info' section of the VIP boat tickets it states 'VIP Thames Cruise With Gold Circle Seating in the first 10 rows on the floor. Embark Silver Sturgeon at the Savoy Pier at 6pm. enjoy a deck top party with DJ's, Buffet & Complimentary Bar. Transfer to the O2 Pier then to your Gold Circle Seats.' for the VIP reception it states 'Enjoy a pre-show party in The White Bar, with Buffet, complimentary drinks and entertainment. Transfer to the very best seats within the first 10 rows on the floor and first 10 rows in the Mid Tiers.' [Edited 6/12/07 13:13pm] [Edited 6/12/07 13:14pm] Actually you're right, it definitely says for the VIP cruise that it will be first ten rows on the floor, so they can't be behind the VIP reception people. | |
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LleeLlee said: Trade Descriptions Act
The Trade Descriptions Act 1968 makes it an offence for a trader to apply, by any means, false or misleading statements, or to knowingly or recklessly make such statements about services. The Act carries criminal penalties and is enforced by local authorities' Trading Standards Officers http://en.wikipedia.org/w...ptions_Act I'm getting the tickets we paid for (VIP - first ten rows, auction or no auction ) .. [Edited 6/12/07 9:48am] Yeah. I'm with you in principal (no pun intended). But i'm sure the defence will be that the ticket description was a mistake and if you want you can have your money back. They also reserve the right to alter seating arrangements. Those damn corporations are evil. [Edited 6/12/07 14:19pm] As equality grows, violence declines. | |
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unique said: CJBabyDaddy said: Oh, no, you di'nt! Back off, them Twinzes is mine, mutha fucka, mine! i was first, u can have shelby and tamar! Take my word for it Unique those Twinz are too hot for you to handle. As equality grows, violence declines. | |
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Crystal777Ball said: unique said: but you might get what you paid for... if you bought tix when it said one thing, thats what you get... thus if you bought when it said "front row" or whatever, you get front row if you bought when it said "first 10 rows" thats what you get follow me? so as each tier of good seats sold out, the wording was changed. tickets should be allocated on a first come first served basis, so the earlier you booked the closer you should be the front row auction tickets may be front row in the lower tier, which is different from the gold circle aka vip tickets so until your seats are allocated, or you even have your tickets, or perhaps even until you are in your seats, you have nothing to worry about you can always call ticketmaster customer service who can be helpful if you talk to them nicely. they explained the vip non boat tix were going to be first 10 rows in the gold circle, and boat vip tix behind them, all to be allocated closer the time. i presume after the floor seats sold out they added more vip/higher price tickets for the front rows of the lower floor. for normal punters, those seats along with the bar and buffet would normally be great, it's just the fans that get annoyed if they aren't actually on the stage with prince, or he is in the audience with them i don't think that is what they are saying on their website though as in the 'more info' section of the VIP boat tickets it states 'VIP Thames Cruise With Gold Circle Seating in the first 10 rows on the floor. Embark Silver Sturgeon at the Savoy Pier at 6pm. enjoy a deck top party with DJ's, Buffet & Complimentary Bar. Transfer to the O2 Pier then to your Gold Circle Seats.' for the VIP reception it states 'Enjoy a pre-show party in The White Bar, with Buffet, complimentary drinks and entertainment. Transfer to the very best seats within the first 10 rows on the floor and first 10 rows in the Mid Tiers.' [Edited 6/12/07 13:13pm] [Edited 6/12/07 13:14pm] but thats not what it said originally. in fact come to think of it, when i called i think they said the non boat vip was first 3 rows, and the boat behind that, so the boat is rows 4-7. they then changed things so later vip would be first 10 rows in lower tiers. the auction seats are just a few front row seats in two floor blocks, they must have kept those aside to auction | |
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Did anyone print the original criteria? That would help but it seems all of us forgot to print the bloody criteria. That would help us with any complaints! http://www.myspace.com/savage1999uk
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The whole thing is really starting to take away from the pleasure of it. I am very lucky as I went out to Vegas and did the whole 3121 experience and nothing, absolutely nothing will better that. But this whole VIP experience is leaving a very bad taste in my mouth. This is supposed to be something we look forward to not threat about all the time.
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I know its annoying not knowing where we are going to be sitting but we might be getting worked up over nothing!
It still states on Ticketmaster VIP cruise is first 10 rows on the floor and Pre-Show Party, first 10 rows on floor or mid-tiers. If this is what they are saying this is what we will get otherwise it is a breach of contract. So everyone relax and lets look forward to it, its only 7 weeks away!!! | |
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Stassy said: I know its annoying not knowing where we are going to be sitting but we might be getting worked up over nothing!
It still states on Ticketmaster VIP cruise is first 10 rows on the floor and Pre-Show Party, first 10 rows on floor or mid-tiers. If this is what they are saying this is what we will get otherwise it is a breach of contract. So everyone relax and lets look forward to it, its only 7 weeks away!!! The problem is that for those that booked at the very start the initial description for the VIP was first 10 rows of the stage. It did not mention the 10 rows of the lower tier. That is what I believe to be the main annoyance for most people. Also if the seats do not get allocated then it will be a scramble for the best seats like on a low cost airline. Is not really what we all bought into. | |
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Currently £101 minimum bid at the moment with 2 days to go.
It will get higher and higher out of our price range! The Rich win again. Whislt those fans who bought them immediately and got stiffed get stiffed again! http://www.myspace.com/savage1999uk
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Savage said: Currently £101 minimum bid at the moment with 2 days to go.
It will get higher and higher out of our price range! The Rich win again. Whislt those fans who bought them immediately and got stiffed get stiffed again! Corporations will snap them up to take out their clients and impress them. Imagine if the people in front of you are not really Prince fans. Just there on a corporate jolly. Sick. As equality grows, violence declines. | |
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Crystal777Ball said: i don't think that is what they are saying on their website though as in the 'more info' section of the VIP boat tickets it states 'VIP Thames Cruise With Gold Circle Seating in the first 10 rows on the floor. Embark Silver Sturgeon at the Savoy Pier at 6pm. enjoy a deck top party with DJ's, Buffet & Complimentary Bar. Transfer to the O2 Pier then to your Gold Circle Seats.' for the VIP reception it states 'Enjoy a pre-show party in The White Bar, with Buffet, complimentary drinks and entertainment. Transfer to the very best seats within the first 10 rows on the floor and first 10 rows in the Mid Tiers. actually come to think about it, i think all thats been changed is they added "and first 10 rows in the Mid Tiers", but the rest of the text was the same the part that suggests non boat seats are first is the past that says Transfer to the very best seats within the first 10 rows on the floor
whilst the boat says Gold Circle Seating in the first 10 rows on the floor
so everyone is within the first 10 rows (apart from those who booked when it was advertised as including mid tiers), but as highlighted, the first non boat vips get "the very best seats". certainly when i called i was advised my seat would be within the first 3 rows, that could be because i booked early, and that was her estimation of my personal seat, or it could be where all the non boat vips were going to be allocated before they added the mid tiers at another date the thing is, i'm not so sure the front row floor seats will have that great a view as those a bit further back, and until we are actually there on the first nite we won't have a clue what is really going to happen, as nothing normal ever happens in princeland. remember the GA fiasco in london the last time? prince had to come into the audience to make us sit down and shut up | |
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ellieadore said: Stassy said: I know its annoying not knowing where we are going to be sitting but we might be getting worked up over nothing!
It still states on Ticketmaster VIP cruise is first 10 rows on the floor and Pre-Show Party, first 10 rows on floor or mid-tiers. If this is what they are saying this is what we will get otherwise it is a breach of contract. So everyone relax and lets look forward to it, its only 7 weeks away!!! The problem is that for those that booked at the very start the initial description for the VIP was first 10 rows of the stage. It did not mention the 10 rows of the lower tier. That is what I believe to be the main annoyance for most people. Also if the seats do not get allocated then it will be a scramble for the best seats like on a low cost airline. Is not really what we all bought into. ticketmaster have confirmed that all the floor seats will be allocated, they only say GA online as the exact allocations hadn't been ready, thus they couldn't advise where people would sit, as they will fill groups of people together on the same rows and use couples or individuals to fill rows, so someone booking a single ticket might get a bit closer than someone booking 4 seats together i think that if you booked when it said first 10 rows thats what you will get, but if you booked when it included the mid tier section, you might get that too (perhaps they had a few floor seats to fill, but added the mid tiers as most floor were gone - if you booked a single ticket you might get floor, but booked 3 or 4 you might be mid tier). that would certainly make sense certainly if you booked vip when it said floor tickets, and you don't get that, you would have grounds to complain to trading standards, but i would imagine such a large organisation as ticketmaster would have organised things to avoid that, thus you get just what was advertised at the time of booking | |
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unique said: ellieadore said: The problem is that for those that booked at the very start the initial description for the VIP was first 10 rows of the stage. It did not mention the 10 rows of the lower tier. That is what I believe to be the main annoyance for most people. Also if the seats do not get allocated then it will be a scramble for the best seats like on a low cost airline. Is not really what we all bought into. ticketmaster have confirmed that all the floor seats will be allocated, they only say GA online as the exact allocations hadn't been ready, thus they couldn't advise where people would sit, as they will fill groups of people together on the same rows and use couples or individuals to fill rows, so someone booking a single ticket might get a bit closer than someone booking 4 seats together i think that if you booked when it said first 10 rows thats what you will get, but if you booked when it included the mid tier section, you might get that too (perhaps they had a few floor seats to fill, but added the mid tiers as most floor were gone - if you booked a single ticket you might get floor, but booked 3 or 4 you might be mid tier). that would certainly make sense certainly if you booked vip when it said floor tickets, and you don't get that, you would have grounds to complain to trading standards, but i would imagine such a large organisation as ticketmaster would have organised things to avoid that, thus you get just what was advertised at the time of booking I Imagine they have some clause along the lines of Ticket Master reserve the right to change their mind and make up the rules as they go along. Guess we are all in the waiting game. | |
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ellieadore said: I Imagine they have some clause along the lines of Ticket Master reserve the right to change their mind and make up the rules as they go along. Guess we are all in the waiting game. i think (hope) you are getting confused with the npgmc | |
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firstly i strongly empathise with any one who has forked out for vip seats whether they have a boat trip or not..... its the not knowing what you have paid for that is frustrating and actually unjust. Its ok for some to say take a chill pill.... but i would get clarification IN WRITING from where you purchased the tickets!... and take loads of chill pills and get as much info as possible.... so that u got what you paid for! ( NO one paid as yet to dance on stage or be touched by prince....:roll , so no need to go on about that.....) I used to work for the ticket industry in customer services and i could be killed if i published the kind of things that go on.....The word changes are / used to be part of the terms and condition clauses..... In the past, when the date came closer, seats featured as vip or top price were quite often re -marketed as a different type of ticket and these vip/higher price seats were then changed in price... either up or down depending on the demand or lack of demand. And so these days i guess auctions are popular and some money goes to charity..... although which one and how much is not advertised???? (or is it anyone? ). So its no suprise what is happening. (It a business and no matter how much we all love the man and his music....its called the music industry and he IS part of it..... if not he'd be down the local pub once a month. .....sorry for momentry lapse into sarcasm ) But vip and vip boat people should get a written confirmation from the customer services dept ASAP..... i'm sure they will be doing a template at Ticketmaster for such inquiries as we chat!!! and just to add insult to injury i emailed a "front row" ticket seller on ebay and asked how he got these tickets for a face value of £100.00? and he is starting the bids at £200..... The seller does alot of concerts and is in germany... he explained that the £100.oo is the price he had to pay the event organisers to get the ticket.....hmmmm actually some things don't change in the industry. Rest assured the sound promises to be fantastic.... and if the sound guys are not on the ball....it will be them i want to shoot on the night..... good luck with any auctions purple fiends / friends.....don't overload your finances....its not good for your health ...and yes i'll be in the normal seats..... play in the sunshine and enjoy the ridexxx ( all words arranged herein this post are the copyright of lovealotbare and can be quoted with the appropriate citation "lovealotbare" and weblink to the original arrangement of words! ) | |
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HELLO TROOPS....i think you are all getting a wee bit worked up over nothing really...as unique said...the front row will probably NOT have the best view of the stage as it is raised up from the floor...i have bought vip tickets for the first night and as long as i get my goody bag , get pissed at the free bar , stuff my face with the buffet , get laid and have a seat within 10 rows of the front (as was stated when i bought my tickets) then i will be a happy man...
i would love to get on the stage at some point to show off my moves , of course , but that would be an extra... we will have great seats...stop worrying...us uk fans have waited a long time for gigs like this so lets look forward to it....it will be fantastic and the acoustics in this new arena are reported to be great so it will be all worth it...see you all there on the 11th [Edited 6/13/07 15:40pm] | |
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blackbob said: HELLO TROOPS....i think you are all getting a wee bit worked up over nothing really...as unique said...the front row will probably NOT have the best view of the stage as it is raised up from the floor...i have bought vip tickets for the first night and as long as i get my goody bag , get pissed at the free bar , stuff my face with the buffet , get laid and have a seat within 10 rows of the front (as was stated when i bought my tickets) then i will be a happy man...
i would love to get on the stage at some point to show off my moves , of course , but that would be an extra... we will have great seats...stop worrying...us uk fans have waited a long time for gigs like this so lets look forward to it....it will be fantastic and the acoustics in this new arena are reported to be great so it will be all worth it...see you all there on the 11th [Edited 6/13/07 15:40pm] man you guys are gonna have a blast! | |
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Btw, In reponse to udo another thread....
.Again here is the registered address for Ticketmaster uk (its on the uk site, bottom of page) Ticketmaster UK Limited Registration in England No. 2662632. Registered Office, 48 Leicester Square, London WC2H 7LR Head it "to Customer services" and send it recorded delivery (registered signed for post) Here is the press office number, you can call them and ask for their fax number at the customer services desk +44(0)207 344 4000.... this is the main switch board as i recall, there is a receptionist....just ask to be put through to Customer services but also ask her for the main fax number first....you can always fax with a FAO (for attention of....) all of this info is in the "About Us" section on the UK Ticketmaster site...www.ticketmaster.co.uk. Good luck sexy nutty bunny ( all words arranged herein this post are the copyright of lovealotbare and can be quoted with the appropriate citation "lovealotbare" and weblink to the original arrangement of words! ) | |
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