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Reply #120 posted 08/03/06 12:21pm

Graycap23

anotherfan said:

He clarified that stuff about end of July when August rolled around and his previous prediction didn't pan out.
[Edited 8/3/06 12:01pm]


The thread was an old thread in which folks where talking about a tour, I think it was a time when things were a little slow around here (not sure). Anyway back then he said end July/ beginning August, as again just recently he said it. Anyway regardless of who said what when and how clearly, the tour should be great and I look forward to the music.[/quote]

THAT is really what it's about.
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Reply #121 posted 08/03/06 12:34pm

Graycap23

JediMaster said:

Graycap23 said:



There is NOTHING 4 me 2 be mad about. The only thing that I really care about is the re-master set. When that drops, I'm good.


IF that drops, then I will personally start a thread lauding you as the Orger in the know. Until that time, you'll have to forgive my skepticism.



Makes sense 2 me.
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Reply #122 posted 08/03/06 12:47pm

Serena

JediMaster said:

Serena said:

I can also remember back in the day when J7 was treated the same way when he'd 'announce' stuff and send out the newsletter.

Hell, we all KNOW that Prince can have plans that change with the wind, either by his choice or other circumstances. Who knows what the world situation will be tomorrow, let alone in September. Personally, I'd rather he didn't go overseas, but only for security reasons, not trying to take him from you folks over there.


Difference is, Jseven's stuff panned out. Greycap said we'd get an announcement from Prince that remasters are coming.....didn't happen. Greycap said we'd have a tour announcement in July...didn't happen. Starting to see a pattern?


Well, J7 used to put out stuff that didn't always come true although lately he has been right on. But, like others have said, it could be their sources giving wrong info, or things CHANGE.

Graycap could have 'general' info, even tho Prince hasn't announced anything, I think he was pretty close if this does pan out. Who knows what affect, if any, the divorce thing has had on him and the timing of things since it's been said he didn't want it.

Hell, people are already PISSED OFF that he's 'only' playing in Greece!!


nuts
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Reply #123 posted 08/03/06 12:54pm

Serena

JediMaster said:

anotherfan said:



Perhaps some folks lay it all on the line because they have nothing to lose, or few/no trusts to keep. I think that someone closer to Prince (greycap23)would have more to lose and thus be less likely to just tell every single fact they know. On the other hand someone who heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend ect has no/little allegiance to keeping it quiet and will share every detail as they know it. Also by the time it has worked it's way down the grapevine they are 100% right because the ink is dry. I think Greycap is closer to the source then some of the other folks around here. Also months ago in some thread I don't have time to find he said it would be the end of July, then he clarfied and said that last week is end July/beginning August.

Whatever the case sounds like a tour is coming and that awesome!!!


Graycap has also claimed that he spoke to Prince on the phone, and that P WANTED him to post info about the remasters. Now, if this is true (and it has been refuted by other Orgers who have, in the past, proven to be in the know), then why did he suddenly get all cryptic?

He clarified that stuff about end of July when August rolled around and his previous prediction didn't pan out.
[Edited 8/3/06 12:01pm]


Without going back and reading all Graycap's posts, I do recall him saying we'd 'hear something' near the end of July, early August. As for the remasters, I thought all that stuff was supposed to happen around Christmas.

I know nothing about Graycap and am skeptical about the remasters, box set(IIRC?), etc., but I'll have an open mind and wait to see before coming down on him for giving wrong info.
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Reply #124 posted 08/03/06 12:55pm

Serena

jone70 said:

Serena said:

I agree. Ya'll are on Graycap about writing in riddles but then praise J7, who also just wrote a riddle?? (and I'm NOT dogging J7 either)


The difference is that J7's riddles are actually pretty clear, have concrete answers, and what they refer to actually happens. J7 has a history of posting legitimate info.

That has not yet been the case with Graycap.



Ok, so decipher J7's riddle in this post for meb, because I sure didn't get it, but I've never been good at riddles either. smile
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Reply #125 posted 08/03/06 12:57pm

RtPunkyGirl14

Graycap23 said:

anotherfan said:

He clarified that stuff about end of July when August rolled around and his previous prediction didn't pan out.
[Edited 8/3/06 12:01pm]


The thread was an old thread in which folks where talking about a tour, I think it was a time when things were a little slow around here (not sure). Anyway back then he said end July/ beginning August, as again just recently he said it. Anyway regardless of who said what when and how clearly, the tour should be great and I look forward to the music.


THAT is really what it's about.[/quote]
Sounds Great GreyCap! I knew that there OfCourse would be more than 1 stop on this Tour! It's nice that a variety of folks will get to see Prince perform!

Peace & Love,
Randee
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Reply #126 posted 08/03/06 12:59pm

Anx

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Perhaps some folks lay it all on the line because they have nothing to lose, or few/no trusts to keep. I think that someone closer to Prince (greycap23)would have more to lose and thus be less likely to just tell every single fact they know. On the other hand someone who heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend ect has no/little allegiance to keeping it quiet and will share every detail as they know it. Also by the time it has worked it's way down the grapevine they are 100% right because the ink is dry. I think Greycap is closer to the source then some of the other folks around here. Also months ago in some thread I don't have time to find he said it would be the end of July, then he clarfied and said that last week is end July/beginning August.

Whatever the case sounds like a tour is coming and that awesome!!!


you've got it partly right.

the people who lay it on the line are indeed people who are in the know, yet they can be open with their information because they're not directly affiliated with prince, but at the same time they're privy to inside information - i.e., folks in the music industry, former/occasional collaborators, etc.

the people who DO have close or direct working relationships with prince know better than to say a peep, or else they'll find themselves fired/cut off/"banished"/whatever. even with the cover of some super-duper secret account, loose lips sink ships in paisleyland, and mr. purplepants isn't handing out life preservers.

then there are the fakes. we'd sure love to believe them, because they tell us all the things we want to hear and they push the right buttons to make us want to believe them.

thing is, they can't back up a damn thing they say other than to issue nonsense like "U WILL SEE WHEN THE CLOUDS PART" and "WHEN THE DAWN CUMS U WILL NO THE TRUTH".

what. the fuck. EVER. lol

the "truth" doesn't need to be dressed up in lace and cuban heels. the stuff that winds up on all the fansite news pages is the stuff that comes to us direct; not all this "riddle me this batman" garbage.

trust who you want, but i was a moderator on this site for almost two years and i maintained the news page on a daily basis, and i got a crash course on bullshit detecting.

trying to speculate what his royal lavenderness is going to do next is fun and i like to indulge myself; trying to coerce people into believing lies is totally lame, and i have absolutely no problem calling bullshit when i see people getting false hopes over a load of clear-cut nonsense.

sorry if that makes me a "bad reader" or whatever - it's a burden i'll have to bear. lol
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Reply #127 posted 08/03/06 1:01pm

Serena

Serena said:

jone70 said:



The difference is that J7's riddles are actually pretty clear, have concrete answers, and what they refer to actually happens. J7 has a history of posting legitimate info.

That has not yet been the case with Graycap.



Ok, so decipher J7's riddle in this post for meb, because I sure didn't get it, but I've never been good at riddles either. smile


Oops, I posted this before I saw someone's answer to this, thx.
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Reply #128 posted 08/03/06 1:15pm

purplepartypeo
ple

Anx said:

anotherfan said:



Perhaps some folks lay it all on the line because they have nothing to lose, or few/no trusts to keep. I think that someone closer to Prince (greycap23)would have more to lose and thus be less likely to just tell every single fact they know. On the other hand someone who heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend ect has no/little allegiance to keeping it quiet and will share every detail as they know it. Also by the time it has worked it's way down the grapevine they are 100% right because the ink is dry. I think Greycap is closer to the source then some of the other folks around here. Also months ago in some thread I don't have time to find he said it would be the end of July, then he clarfied and said that last week is end July/beginning August.

Whatever the case sounds like a tour is coming and that awesome!!!


you've got it partly right.

the people who lay it on the line are indeed people who are in the know, yet they can be open with their information because they're not directly affiliated with prince, but at the same time they're privy to inside information - i.e., folks in the music industry, former/occasional collaborators, etc.

the people who DO have close or direct working relationships with prince know better than to say a peep, or else they'll find themselves fired/cut off/"banished"/whatever. even with the cover of some super-duper secret account, loose lips sink ships in paisleyland, and mr. purplepants isn't handing out life preservers.

then there are the fakes. we'd sure love to believe them, because they tell us all the things we want to hear and they push the right buttons to make us want to believe them.

thing is, they can't back up a damn thing they say other than to issue nonsense like "U WILL SEE WHEN THE CLOUDS PART" and "WHEN THE DAWN CUMS U WILL NO THE TRUTH".

what. the fuck. EVER. lol

the "truth" doesn't need to be dressed up in lace and cuban heels. the stuff that winds up on all the fansite news pages is the stuff that comes to us direct; not all this "riddle me this batman" garbage.

trust who you want, but i was a moderator on this site for almost two years and i maintained the news page on a daily basis, and i got a crash course on bullshit detecting.

trying to speculate what his royal lavenderness is going to do next is fun and i like to indulge myself; trying to coerce people into believing lies is totally lame, and i have absolutely no problem calling bullshit when i see people getting false hopes over a load of clear-cut nonsense.

sorry if that makes me a "bad reader" or whatever - it's a burden i'll have to bear. lol


It seems though that as 4 now there is only 1 truth: PRINCE IS COMING 2 ATHENS!!!!!
that's where the party b
And the rest of the world U can b as much jealous as u like
This is retaliation 4 all those years of waiting, of hearing and not seeing!!!
U r all welcome 2 party under Parthenon with us


If the nite falls
and a bomb falls
will anybody c the Dawn?
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Reply #129 posted 08/03/06 1:21pm

Anx

purplepartypeople said:



It seems though that as 4 now there is only 1 truth: PRINCE IS COMING 2 ATHENS!!!!!
that's where the party b
And the rest of the world U can b as much jealous as u like
This is retaliation 4 all those years of waiting, of hearing and not seeing!!!
U r all welcome 2 party under Parthenon with us


If the nite falls
and a bomb falls
will anybody c the Dawn?


no jealousy here - i've seen the man play enough times, and i'd love everyone else to have the chance too.
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Reply #130 posted 08/03/06 1:52pm

Huxley

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You know what, y'all should lighten up. Even if it is all BS, it's given me a nice little flush of anticipation. Hope is a good thing my friends... never get tired of hoping.

And I love the riddles! Since when has Prince been about the obvious? I've spent years wondering why, if Prince had a baby boy, he'd call him Nate. What does that mean? Why Nate? In-car-Nate? Nate Rogers Nelson? It's a riddle. His lyrics are full of ambiguousity, and it's just one reason I love them. You have to THINK.

Anyway, I'm just a newbie, what do eye know.
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Reply #131 posted 08/03/06 2:00pm

AGNTHVC

Graycap23 said:

Huxley said:

I don't know what to make of Graycap, but you've got to give him/her credit for sticking around the site. There've been some pretty strong words said, and Graycap has always kept calm and polite.

I also think some people are being a bit too harsh. Graycap said a tour would be announced at the end of July. It is only the *3rd* of August. Just a few days out? That's pretty impressive, and is unlikely to be by chance or coincidence. When there's 365 to choose from, just being 3 out... think about it.

As for the fact that it's only a Greek show and not a tour... well, we don't know anything officially, do we? Could be one show, could be a tour.

Let's just be happy with the news that seems to have leaked, and enjoy the buzz in expecting/hoping for more.

MANNNNN please you are 56 days off and you still ait jseven. . i guess that prince woul tour at the end of september about a month ago with my boy in TAPMUG. U said that he was going to start the tour 7/31/06 in chicago usa ( which u never had the guts to take my wager) and if PRINCE himself told ( which you dreamed about) then he would have done it like he said. !! you are a wanna be prince boy!!!

thumbs up!


Hummmm..... someone who actually GETS it.
N I C E.
TAPMUG!
THE ATLANTA PRINCE MEET UP GROUP!
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Reply #132 posted 08/03/06 2:01pm

Giovanni777

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I really don't know what 2 believe anymore.

What U hear might not be what it seems, or it might be.

I'll just keep my ears and eyes open.

Who knows... The Shadow?
[Edited 8/3/06 14:04pm]
"He's a musician's musician..."
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Reply #133 posted 08/03/06 2:20pm

Graycap23

I am I the ONLY one who sees the lesson in this?
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Reply #134 posted 08/03/06 2:22pm

JediMaster

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Graycap23 said:

I am I the ONLY one who sees the lesson in this?


Please, do enlighten us.
jedi

Do not hurry yourself in your spirit to become offended, for the taking of offense is what rests in the bosom of the stupid ones. (Ecclesiastes 7:9)
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Reply #135 posted 08/03/06 2:27pm

Graycap23

JediMaster said:

Graycap23 said:

I am I the ONLY one who sees the lesson in this?


Please, do enlighten us.



U guys are always pissing and moaning about Prince not giving u a DETAILED plan for his every move. The man decides 2 "share" some info and what's the end result? Instead of allowing things 2 flow in their NATURAL state, u get a bunch of folks breaking down EVERY single word trying 2 find reasons NOT 2 believe.

I'm ONLY speaking 4 myself, but if I were Prince, I would NEVER pay attention 2 the likes of the types of ATTITUDES that I see here. An experiment in Truth? I'd say so.....but NOT 4 the better.
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Reply #136 posted 08/03/06 2:27pm

Anx

Graycap23 said:

I am I the ONLY one who sees the lesson in this?


i sure hope you learned SOMEthing. lol
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Reply #137 posted 08/03/06 2:29pm

Graycap23

Anx said:

Graycap23 said:

I am I the ONLY one who sees the lesson in this?


i sure hope you learned SOMEthing. lol


Isn't there a song on the live ONA called, "IT Ain't Ova"?
[Edited 8/3/06 14:32pm]
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Reply #138 posted 08/03/06 2:31pm

Anx

Graycap23 said:

Anx said:



i sure hope you learned SOMEthing. lol


Isn't there a song on the live ONA called, "I Ain't Ova"?



falloff

and you have a problem with OUR comprehension skills???
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Reply #139 posted 08/03/06 2:33pm

Graycap23

Anx said:

Graycap23 said:



Isn't there a song on the live ONA called, "I Ain't Ova"?



falloff

and you have a problem with OUR comprehension skills???



No.....just U.
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Reply #140 posted 08/03/06 2:34pm

jacobpb

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Graycap23 said:

JediMaster said:



Please, do enlighten us.



U guys are always pissing and moaning about Prince not giving u a DETAILED plan for his every move. The man decides 2 "share" some info and what's the end result? Instead of allowing things 2 flow in their NATURAL state, u get a bunch of folks breaking down EVERY single word trying 2 find reasons NOT 2 believe.

I'm ONLY speaking 4 myself, but if I were Prince, I would NEVER pay attention 2 the likes of the types of ATTITUDES that I see here. An experiment in Truth? I'd say so.....but NOT 4 the better.



[b]And yet you've continued to post innunendos, cryptic messages and Princephonics . You keep posting, it's fun stringing people along isn't it? Oh the power, the control. Well, maybe not that nutz LOL , but honestly, why keep posting? Just stay silent. You gave a clue, didn't pan out at the appropriate time, so we'll see.
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Reply #141 posted 08/03/06 2:35pm

Graycap23

jacobpb said:

Graycap23 said:




U guys are always pissing and moaning about Prince not giving u a DETAILED plan for his every move. The man decides 2 "share" some info and what's the end result? Instead of allowing things 2 flow in their NATURAL state, u get a bunch of folks breaking down EVERY single word trying 2 find reasons NOT 2 believe.

I'm ONLY speaking 4 myself, but if I were Prince, I would NEVER pay attention 2 the likes of the types of ATTITUDES that I see here. An experiment in Truth? I'd say so.....but NOT 4 the better.



[b]And yet you've continued to post innunendos, cryptic messages and Princephonics . You keep posting, it's fun stringing people along isn't it? Oh the power, the control. Well, maybe not that nutz LOL , but honestly, why keep posting? Just stay silent. You gave a clue, didn't pan out at the appropriate time, so we'll see.



What about that message is crytic?
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Reply #142 posted 08/03/06 2:37pm

jacobpb

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Graycap23 said:

jacobpb said:




[b]And yet you've continued to post innunendos, cryptic messages and Princephonics . You keep posting, it's fun stringing people along isn't it? Oh the power, the control. Well, maybe not that nutz LOL , but honestly, why keep posting? Just stay silent. You gave a clue, didn't pan out at the appropriate time, so we'll see.



What about that message is crytic?



Cryptic statements like "is Chicago in the house?", one example.
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Reply #143 posted 08/03/06 2:40pm

Graycap23

jacobpb said:

Graycap23 said:




What about that message is crytic?



Cryptic statements like "is Chicago in the house?", one example.


lol.....I'm FROM Chicago.
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Reply #144 posted 08/03/06 2:41pm

NPG2045

Exactly, the problem isn't that this wasn't announced exactly on July 31st,(by the way a lot of us couldve said this and been right) but Graycap stated the tour would start in a major US City and the US would be the 1st leg and hinted at Chicago, (which reliable people have stated is not true), not 2 mention a list of other claims which most of us don't see happening, his posts r kinda funny if u really know the TRUTH and what's going on, cuz it justs comes across as someone trying 2 get attention and get these boards talking and 2 get peoples hopes up thru HIS positive thinking, here's a list of his other claims:


The REAL reason Prince has been silent.

The REAL reason Prince has been silent. (You make want to make this a sticky)

Hello folks, I going to list a few reasons why Prince has been so silent lately.
This is coming STRAIGHT from the man so relax.

#1. Prince has been busy remastering his entire official catalog including the stuff from the 1990’s. There is going to be a big release around Christmas time of this year. He has 4 albums to complete before the set is ready. Included in some of the sets will be BONUS material (DVD), unreleased songs, and extra cd’s of music. Albums that will contain extra material are:
1. For You
2. Dirty Mind including the songs Brass Bed, American Jam and Lisa
3. Purple rain will include a 17 minute version of computer blue, the demo of doves cry complete with bass and strings, a separate cd with the 1st ave concert, and the some other songs by the Time
4. 1999 will contain an extra disc of unreleased music including Purple music, Extra lovable, and Moonbeam levels
5. Sign of the Times will include the song Adonis and Sheba, the 12: of Dorothy Parker, and some other 12”
6. Diamonds and Pearls will contain 12” mixes and Shockadelica
7. Batman will contain the original Rave track

There will be a BOX set of all of this material released right around Christmas time. And the Prince will be kept as LOW as possible.

#2. Wendy, Lisa, Brown Mark, and Sheila E are back along with Reneto on keys. They are practicing as we speak. The tour starts in July. The U.S. will be the 1st leg.

#3. The Vegas thing was just a warm up for Tamar’s band. That is NOT Prince’s touring band for the upcoming tour.

Hold on to your Purple hats………..
I’m sure I forgot something so forgive me if I go astray.
Peace.

BobbyPin said:

Graycap23 said:




Hummmm..... someone who actually GETS it.
N I C E.



For the record, Graycap said it was a US tour and hinted at US city names. Complete oposite of what I know to be "rumored".

Gray stop picking up the phone!
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Reply #145 posted 08/03/06 2:45pm

jn2

6. Diamonds and Pearls will contain 12” mixes and Shockadelica
I remember this stupidity.
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Reply #146 posted 08/03/06 2:49pm

Anx

Graycap23 said:

jacobpb said:




Cryptic statements like "is Chicago in the house?", one example.


lol.....I'm FROM Chicago.



as if i didn't have enough problems. sigh
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Reply #147 posted 08/03/06 2:50pm

jacobpb

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Graycap23 said:

jacobpb said:




Cryptic statements like "is Chicago in the house?", one example.


lol.....I'm FROM Chicago.


Okay, obviously wasting precious time here, you're not communicating. The net can be full of wasted time though.

One other thing, Prince tours, doesn't tour, big deal, I don't view him with reverance, he's not my God, he's no different in HIS eyes to a bum on the street to clarify. A gifted musician, but with many human failures that are still unfolding.
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Reply #148 posted 08/03/06 2:52pm

Serena

NPG2045 said:

Exactly, the problem isn't that this wasn't announced exactly on July 31st,(by the way a lot of us couldve said this and been right) but Graycap stated the tour would start in a major US City and the US would be the 1st leg


And how do you know he's not right, yet?
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Reply #149 posted 08/03/06 3:05pm

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[sarcasm] C'mon y'all, don't be so hard on Graycap. You know the saying, "Don't hate the playa, hate the game." That tricky tricky Prince probably changed up the game on him. [/sarcasm]


I find this whole drama (this thread, the tour thread, the setlist thread, the remasters thread) fucking hilarious...especially considering when I first doubted Graycap someone sent me an orgnote telling me to apologise and quit bullying him; and yet as far as I can tell that person still has not posted on any of the threads vouching for him.

I wonder if you all are getting mean orgnotes now...
The check. The string he dropped. The Mona Lisa. The musical notes taken out of a hat. The glass. The toy shotgun painting. The things he found. Therefore, everything seen–every object, that is, plus the process of looking at it–is a Duchamp.
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