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Reply #90 posted 08/03/06 9:05am

Anx

Graycap23 said:



Hummm.....u don't read well.


i'm gonna have to remember that when i get my first book published and all the critics bash it. "my writing's fine...it's their reading skills that suck!"

graycap, i want to marry you and bear your children. bow
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Reply #91 posted 08/03/06 9:13am

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Graycap23 said:

JediMaster said:



I have, Greycap, but the fact is that you've been exceptionally vague, and given no real details. You keep posting things, expecting folks to believe them, then get even more cryptic when folks want you to back up your claims. This back-tracking to say it would be the FIRST WEEK is NOT what you originally posted. If you'd been a little more forthcoming, then you wouldn't be getting this backlash.

Early on, I said I wanted to believe you, and I repeatedly gave you the chance to elucidate your claims, but NOTHING you've said is seemingly true at all. Prince announcing a show in Greece the first week of August is not the same as him announcing a tour at the end of July. You also claimed we would have info about remasters from WB, but that hasn't panned out either (plus, add in the fact that at least one RELIABLE behind-the-scenes person has refuted that claim), and it just seems like you're someone who wants to come across as "in the know", but isn't. Fact is, you're either someone who likes to make stuff up, or someone who is being played by someone. Either way, your credibility is pretty-well shot.



Hummm.....u don't read well.


I have no problem reading. You don't write well.
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Reply #92 posted 08/03/06 9:14am

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Anx said:

Graycap23 said:



Hummm.....u don't read well.


i'm gonna have to remember that when i get my first book published and all the critics bash it. "my writing's fine...it's their reading skills that suck!"

graycap, i want to marry you and bear your children. bow


spit
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Reply #93 posted 08/03/06 9:36am

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I don't know what to make of Graycap, but you've got to give him/her credit for sticking around the site. There've been some pretty strong words said, and Graycap has always kept calm and polite.

I also think some people are being a bit too harsh. Graycap said a tour would be announced at the end of July. It is only the *3rd* of August. Just a few days out? That's pretty impressive, and is unlikely to be by chance or coincidence. When there's 365 to choose from, just being 3 out... think about it.

As for the fact that it's only a Greek show and not a tour... well, we don't know anything officially, do we? Could be one show, could be a tour.

Let's just be happy with the news that seems to have leaked, and enjoy the buzz in expecting/hoping for more.

thumbs up!
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Reply #94 posted 08/03/06 9:49am

gsh

Nothing has been announced yet - so far we have reports from greek entertainment sites claiming a gig in Athens on September 25th - that isn't an announcement. As far as we know it could still all be rumour, or even if true could be cancelled.
Either way, no tour started or was announced at the end of July.
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Reply #95 posted 08/03/06 10:02am

origmnd

I think everyone got it wrong....

If GREASE is the word...and he's coming out on the 25th in GREEK style....
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Reply #96 posted 08/03/06 10:10am

Graycap23

Huxley said:

I don't know what to make of Graycap, but you've got to give him/her credit for sticking around the site. There've been some pretty strong words said, and Graycap has always kept calm and polite.

I also think some people are being a bit too harsh. Graycap said a tour would be announced at the end of July. It is only the *3rd* of August. Just a few days out? That's pretty impressive, and is unlikely to be by chance or coincidence. When there's 365 to choose from, just being 3 out... think about it.

As for the fact that it's only a Greek show and not a tour... well, we don't know anything officially, do we? Could be one show, could be a tour.

Let's just be happy with the news that seems to have leaked, and enjoy the buzz in expecting/hoping for more.

thumbs up!


Hummmm..... someone who actually GETS it.
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Reply #97 posted 08/03/06 10:20am

Serena

Huxley said:

I don't know what to make of Graycap, but you've got to give him/her credit for sticking around the site. There've been some pretty strong words said, and Graycap has always kept calm and polite.

I also think some people are being a bit too harsh. Graycap said a tour would be announced at the end of July. It is only the *3rd* of August. Just a few days out? That's pretty impressive, and is unlikely to be by chance or coincidence. When there's 365 to choose from, just being 3 out... think about it.

As for the fact that it's only a Greek show and not a tour... well, we don't know anything officially, do we? Could be one show, could be a tour.

Let's just be happy with the news that seems to have leaked, and enjoy the buzz in expecting/hoping for more.

thumbs up!



I agree. Ya'll are on Graycap about writing in riddles but then praise J7, who also just wrote a riddle?? (and I'm NOT dogging J7 either) Just because there's been some media talk about Greece, doesn't mean that is necessarily the first show ya know.
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Reply #98 posted 08/03/06 10:30am

Paisleyprk

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dang. that's my birthday, and I live in the USA. sad


cool to those who can see, though.


OMG. . . . .me Too!!
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Reply #99 posted 08/03/06 10:31am

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Serena said:

I agree. Ya'll are on Graycap about writing in riddles but then praise J7, who also just wrote a riddle?? (and I'm NOT dogging J7 either)


The difference is that J7's riddles are actually pretty clear, have concrete answers, and what they refer to actually happens. J7 has a history of posting legitimate info.

That has not yet been the case with Graycap.
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Reply #100 posted 08/03/06 10:36am

Graycap23

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Serena said:

I agree. Ya'll are on Graycap about writing in riddles but then praise J7, who also just wrote a riddle?? (and I'm NOT dogging J7 either)


The difference is that J7's riddles are actually pretty clear, have concrete answers, and what they refer to actually happens. J7 has a history of posting legitimate info.

That has not yet been the case with Graycap.


4cus on the positive.
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Reply #101 posted 08/03/06 10:38am

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jone70 said:

Serena said:

I agree. Ya'll are on Graycap about writing in riddles but then praise J7, who also just wrote a riddle?? (and I'm NOT dogging J7 either)


The difference is that J7's riddles are actually pretty clear, have concrete answers, and what they refer to actually happens. J7 has a history of posting legitimate info.

That has not yet been the case with Graycap.


Jseven has already said that Greece isn't the first stop (page 3 I think). I am not dogging on jseven either, so please dont take this post that way, but he isn't giving "specifics" either. he doesn't give dates, locations, etc. the greece concert was reported because it was published in several greece articles.

yes, I believe what jseven has to say as he does have a good reputation, but even he had a beginning to that "reputation".

Graycap said a tour would be announced at the end of july. this was two months ago when he stated that. i mean come on, so an announcement did not come on the very last day of july? so what. even if it comes out in the next few days, its close enough for me. maybe prince had planned to announce it at the "end of july" and it just didn't happen that way for one reason or another. jseven's comment about "this isnt the first stop" with regard to greece clearly indicates that a tour, and not just a one off show, is in the works. why not wait and see if any of the other information provided by graycap comes true before you start bashing so much?
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Reply #102 posted 08/03/06 10:38am

Anx

jone70 said:

Serena said:

I agree. Ya'll are on Graycap about writing in riddles but then praise J7, who also just wrote a riddle?? (and I'm NOT dogging J7 either)


The difference is that J7's riddles are actually pretty clear, have concrete answers, and what they refer to actually happens. J7 has a history of posting legitimate info.

That has not yet been the case with Graycap.


then there are folks like tangerine17 who just lays it on the line and dispenses with the scooby doo haunted house scavenger hunt crap and doesn't pretend that he received a magical message from prince's personal messenger dove carrying a golden scroll or some crap.

believe it or not, some people are capable of sharing info without it being a ploy for attention. those people are the ones i trust, though i understand the allure of buying into some bored soul's magical/wishful thinking. it's fun! biggrin
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Reply #103 posted 08/03/06 10:47am

Serena

I can also remember back in the day when J7 was treated the same way when he'd 'announce' stuff and send out the newsletter.

Hell, we all KNOW that Prince can have plans that change with the wind, either by his choice or other circumstances. Who knows what the world situation will be tomorrow, let alone in September. Personally, I'd rather he didn't go overseas, but only for security reasons, not trying to take him from you folks over there.
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Reply #104 posted 08/03/06 11:00am

Graycap23

Has ANYTHING official come from Prince yet? Just curious.
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Reply #105 posted 08/03/06 11:02am

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True, everyone's rep has to be built up, but unfortunately so far Gray's isn't off to a good start. Not just with the tour announcement but with other things as well...

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JediMaster said:

Graycap also claimed we would have info about remasters from WB, but that hasn't panned out either (plus, add in the fact that at least one RELIABLE behind-the-scenes person has refuted that claim)



Suffice it to say I could have posted the same exact comment. But then we get into the same cycle--are my or Jedi's posts valid/legit? It would be great if what Graycap is posting comes true, but at this point I'm still very skeptical. It doesn't mean he's necessarily making isht up, but maybe someone else is messing with him.


One can believe what they choose. I choose to believe things based on facts. shrug
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Reply #106 posted 08/03/06 11:23am

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Anx said:

jone70 said:



The difference is that J7's riddles are actually pretty clear, have concrete answers, and what they refer to actually happens. J7 has a history of posting legitimate info.

That has not yet been the case with Graycap.


then there are folks like tangerine17 who just lays it on the line and dispenses with the scooby doo haunted house scavenger hunt crap and doesn't pretend that he received a magical message from prince's personal messenger dove carrying a golden scroll or some crap.

believe it or not, some people are capable of sharing info without it being a ploy for attention. those people are the ones i trust, though i understand the allure of buying into some bored soul's magical/wishful thinking. it's fun! biggrin


Couldn't have said it better myself!
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Reply #107 posted 08/03/06 11:38am

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WOW - Greece is close! I´d love to come, but he could come to Germany or somewhere which is even closer. wink
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Reply #108 posted 08/03/06 11:38am

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Serena said:

I can also remember back in the day when J7 was treated the same way when he'd 'announce' stuff and send out the newsletter.

Hell, we all KNOW that Prince can have plans that change with the wind, either by his choice or other circumstances. Who knows what the world situation will be tomorrow, let alone in September. Personally, I'd rather he didn't go overseas, but only for security reasons, not trying to take him from you folks over there.


Difference is, Jseven's stuff panned out. Greycap said we'd get an announcement from Prince that remasters are coming.....didn't happen. Greycap said we'd have a tour announcement in July...didn't happen. Starting to see a pattern?

I'm pretty well skeptical whenever someone comes on here claiming to have "insider info", or that they heard it directly from Prince. There have been, literally, dozens of folks doing this since as far back as I can remember. That doesn't mean I automatically call "bullsh!t" on them either. I usually wait to see if their info pans out. In Greycap's case, I basically told him that I hoped he was telling the truth, and asked for clarification. Not only did he not clarify, he responded with cryptic gobbledygook that could be interpreted several different ways. Now, we are past the time period that he stated an announcement would be made, and all we have is a rumour from a more reliable source that he will play Greece. Where is the tour announcement? Where are the remasters?

I'd be happy to eat crow if Greycap turns out to be right about the remasters AND the tour (if he only gets the tour thing right, even though it is past when he said it would happen, it was just dumb luck). So far, he hasn't turned out to be a reliable source like Tangerine17, JSeven or BorisFishPaw.
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Reply #109 posted 08/03/06 11:39am

NewPowerSoul92

Bfunkthe1 said:

janecarol said:



What a trip, mine 2, would love to travel to greece for my b-day! Im n USA
Peace and jam out Greece!

What a trip (part 3), my B-day as well and I'm also in the USA!
Would be a great B-day present. One can dream. wink




hehe, yes, dreaming is about all I can do. wink
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Reply #110 posted 08/03/06 11:40am

Graycap23

JediMaster said:

Serena said:

I can also remember back in the day when J7 was treated the same way when he'd 'announce' stuff and send out the newsletter.

Hell, we all KNOW that Prince can have plans that change with the wind, either by his choice or other circumstances. Who knows what the world situation will be tomorrow, let alone in September. Personally, I'd rather he didn't go overseas, but only for security reasons, not trying to take him from you folks over there.


Difference is, Jseven's stuff panned out. Greycap said we'd get an announcement from Prince that remasters are coming.....didn't happen. Greycap said we'd have a tour announcement in July...didn't happen. Starting to see a pattern?

I'm pretty well skeptical whenever someone comes on here claiming to have "insider info", or that they heard it directly from Prince. There have been, literally, dozens of folks doing this since as far back as I can remember. That doesn't mean I automatically call "bullsh!t" on them either. I usually wait to see if their info pans out. In Greycap's case, I basically told him that I hoped he was telling the truth, and asked for clarification. Not only did he not clarify, he responded with cryptic gobbledygook that could be interpreted several different ways. Now, we are past the time period that he stated an announcement would be made, and all we have is a rumour from a more reliable source that he will play Greece. Where is the tour announcement? Where are the remasters?

I'd be happy to eat crow if Greycap turns out to be right about the remasters AND the tour (if he only gets the tour thing right, even though it is past when he said it would happen, it was just dumb luck). So far, he hasn't turned out to be a reliable source like Tangerine17, JSeven or BorisFishPaw.



Like I said.....u don't READ well.
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Reply #111 posted 08/03/06 11:46am

JediMaster

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Graycap23 said:

JediMaster said:



Difference is, Jseven's stuff panned out. Greycap said we'd get an announcement from Prince that remasters are coming.....didn't happen. Greycap said we'd have a tour announcement in July...didn't happen. Starting to see a pattern?

I'm pretty well skeptical whenever someone comes on here claiming to have "insider info", or that they heard it directly from Prince. There have been, literally, dozens of folks doing this since as far back as I can remember. That doesn't mean I automatically call "bullsh!t" on them either. I usually wait to see if their info pans out. In Greycap's case, I basically told him that I hoped he was telling the truth, and asked for clarification. Not only did he not clarify, he responded with cryptic gobbledygook that could be interpreted several different ways. Now, we are past the time period that he stated an announcement would be made, and all we have is a rumour from a more reliable source that he will play Greece. Where is the tour announcement? Where are the remasters?

I'd be happy to eat crow if Greycap turns out to be right about the remasters AND the tour (if he only gets the tour thing right, even though it is past when he said it would happen, it was just dumb luck). So far, he hasn't turned out to be a reliable source like Tangerine17, JSeven or BorisFishPaw.



Like I said.....u don't READ well.


CLARIFY, then! If I'm so friggin' stupid, then explain it to me!!!!

I don't read well? Have you considered, EVEN FOR ONCE, that it is YOU who doesn't WRITE well? Posting cryptic BS, and then claiming that the problem is with me is so friggin' childish. CLARIFY. The ball is in your court.
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Reply #112 posted 08/03/06 11:55am

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JediMaster said:[quote]

Anx said:



then there are folks like tangerine17 who just lays it on the line and dispenses with the scooby doo haunted house scavenger hunt crap and doesn't pretend that he received a magical message from prince's personal messenger dove carrying a golden scroll or some crap.

believe it or not, some people are capable of sharing info without it being a ploy for attention. those people are the ones i trust, though i understand the allure of buying into some bored soul's magical/wishful thinking. it's fun! biggrin


Perhaps some folks lay it all on the line because they have nothing to lose, or few/no trusts to keep. I think that someone closer to Prince (greycap23)would have more to lose and thus be less likely to just tell every single fact they know. On the other hand someone who heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend ect has no/little allegiance to keeping it quiet and will share every detail as they know it. Also by the time it has worked it's way down the grapevine they are 100% right because the ink is dry. I think Greycap is closer to the source then some of the other folks around here. Also months ago in some thread I don't have time to find he said it would be the end of July, then he clarfied and said that last week is end July/beginning August.

Whatever the case sounds like a tour is coming and that awesome!!!
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Reply #113 posted 08/03/06 11:57am

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anotherfan said:[quote]

JediMaster said:

Anx said:



then there are folks like tangerine17 who just lays it on the line and dispenses with the scooby doo haunted house scavenger hunt crap and doesn't pretend that he received a magical message from prince's personal messenger dove carrying a golden scroll or some crap.

believe it or not, some people are capable of sharing info without it being a ploy for attention. those people are the ones i trust, though i understand the allure of buying into some bored soul's magical/wishful thinking. it's fun! biggrin


Perhaps some folks lay it all on the line because they have nothing to lose, or few/no trusts to keep. I think that someone closer to Prince (greycap23)would have more to lose and thus be less likely to just tell every single fact they know. On the other hand someone who heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend ect has no/little allegiance to keeping it quiet and will share every detail as they know it. Also by the time it has worked it's way down the grapevine they are 100% right because the ink is dry. I think Greycap is closer to the source then some of the other folks around here. Also months ago in some thread I don't have time to find he said it would be the end of July, then he clarfied and said that last week is end July/beginning August.

Whatever the case sounds like a tour is coming and that awesome!!!


Graycap has also claimed that he spoke to Prince on the phone, and that P WANTED him to post info about the remasters. Now, if this is true (and it has been refuted by other Orgers who have, in the past, proven to be in the know), then why did he suddenly get all cryptic?

He clarified that stuff about end of July when August rolled around and his previous prediction didn't pan out.
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Reply #114 posted 08/03/06 11:57am

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Graycap23 said:

Huxley said:

I don't know what to make of Graycap, but you've got to give him/her credit for sticking around the site. There've been some pretty strong words said, and Graycap has always kept calm and polite.

I also think some people are being a bit too harsh. Graycap said a tour would be announced at the end of July. It is only the *3rd* of August. Just a few days out? That's pretty impressive, and is unlikely to be by chance or coincidence. When there's 365 to choose from, just being 3 out... think about it.

As for the fact that it's only a Greek show and not a tour... well, we don't know anything officially, do we? Could be one show, could be a tour.

Let's just be happy with the news that seems to have leaked, and enjoy the buzz in expecting/hoping for more.

thumbs up!



Hummmm..... someone who actually GETS it.
N I C E.



For the record, Graycap said it was a US tour and hinted at US city names. Complete oposite of what I know to be "rumored".

Gray stop picking up the phone!
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Reply #115 posted 08/03/06 11:59am

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Graycap, it's real simple: I truly hope you're right and I'm wrong. I'd personally love to get a heaping helping of crow on my plate, and see those remasters coming out. If this happens, I'll be defending you to all the other Orgers when you come out with a piece of info. As it is, your info hasn't panned out. You can't expect people to not be sore about that.
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Reply #116 posted 08/03/06 12:03pm

Graycap23

JediMaster said:

Graycap, it's real simple: I truly hope you're right and I'm wrong. I'd personally love to get a heaping helping of crow on my plate, and see those remasters coming out. If this happens, I'll be defending you to all the other Orgers when you come out with a piece of info. As it is, your info hasn't panned out. You can't expect people to not be sore about that.


There is NOTHING 4 me 2 be mad about. The only thing that I really care about is the re-master set. When that drops, I'm good.
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Reply #117 posted 08/03/06 12:06pm

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Graycap23 said:

JediMaster said:

Graycap, it's real simple: I truly hope you're right and I'm wrong. I'd personally love to get a heaping helping of crow on my plate, and see those remasters coming out. If this happens, I'll be defending you to all the other Orgers when you come out with a piece of info. As it is, your info hasn't panned out. You can't expect people to not be sore about that.


There is NOTHING 4 me 2 be mad about. The only thing that I really care about is the re-master set. When that drops, I'm good.


IF that drops, then I will personally start a thread lauding you as the Orger in the know. Until that time, you'll have to forgive my skepticism.
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Reply #118 posted 08/03/06 12:12pm

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He clarified that stuff about end of July when August rolled around and his previous prediction didn't pan out.
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The thread was an old thread in which folks where talking about a tour, I think it was a time when things were a little slow around here (not sure). Anyway back then he said end July/ beginning August, as again just recently he said it. Anyway regardless of who said what when and how clearly, the tour should be great and I look forward to the music.
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Reply #119 posted 08/03/06 12:20pm

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jseven said:

Greece is the word...is the word...is the word.....

but it is not the 1st stop.

Some1 hit the buzzer I think.

Somewhere in the distance, u can hear some1's lips singing no matter where u r.

Can some1 cue up that song by EWF please?

It is replacing the other song by Green Day I was digging.



I think I get what Jseven is trying to say here. Someone hit the buzzer, meaning someone guessed right that there will be a world tour. Somewhere in the distance u can hear some1's lips singing no matter where u r - means the tour is coming somewhere near you. The song by EWF is "September" where they are clearly welcoming September to come:

Our hearts were ringing
In the key that our souls were singing.
As we danced in the night,
Remember how the stars stole the night away

Ba de ya - say do you remember
Ba de ya - dancing in september
Ba de ya - never was a cloudy day

Whereas the Green Day song he means is "Wake Me Up When September Ends," meaning September was going to be a boring month, but now there is much excitement to look forward to! Maybe September is filled with world tour dates?
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