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Reply #30 posted 03/23/02 2:20pm

vgallo6

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I think this process is all good. Im a little concerned about losing my seat though. Im gonna want to go and buy some merchandise. What happens then? Oh well. I guess i'll figure it out when im there. Peace and LoveQ
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Reply #31 posted 03/23/02 2:23pm

avah12

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how much were the most expensive tix at the previous concerts, cuz 125 seems a little steep considering we already paid 100 to get this perk
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Reply #32 posted 03/23/02 2:26pm

Chainbridge

B a good thing if they scraped the seats altogether smile
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Reply #33 posted 03/23/02 2:42pm

jaikman

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c the next 14 some nsite
[This message was edited Sat Mar 23 14:51:26 PST 2002 by jaikman]
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Reply #34 posted 03/23/02 2:49pm

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Row "O"...for $125....not good.....I agree, with selling

the tix from the site but they need seat assingments (1st

come, 1st serve).....Some of us work for a living and are

unable to devote a full day to stand in line to get a good

spot.....and don't want to have to push and shove to keep

it....I'm there to see a concert, not fight with and get

pissed off by those around me who wish to be

inconsiderate...

I went to the Louisville And the Indy

shows.....Louisville I got row B and Indy I got row C

(except for Indy I had to reject the tickets about a dozen

times to get that, 1st few times were row M, row S, T,

among other shitty seats [for that price])

I think the reason for them not assigning seats from the

site is probably because it would take too much time per

customer and would crash the site...Its probably unable to

handle the volume.....ever try downloading your music from

there, the day it comes out?....I have a cable modem and it

was goin' as slow as 56k....so just imagine what kind of

problems they'll have processing ticket orders.....



I want to go to the St.Louis show too but, if the seating

is like that, I think I'll just cherish the memories of

the two I've

been to already (ie: great shows, relaxed because I could

enjoy the concert without having to fight off the masses)



Although.....My buddy that would be going to the show with

me is 6'8" 325lbs.....He could move some people if

need be.....Hmmmmm, well if I do go all I can say is

watch your step around me! LOL







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Reply #35 posted 03/23/02 2:57pm

chookalana

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Don't fret. I think it's a great idea. Another item out of the hands of large corporations. Nice knowing you ticket master!
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Reply #36 posted 03/23/02 3:03pm

geminipaul

I think some of you are doing a lot of worrying for nothing.

Based on my experience at the Indianapolis concert, the vibe amongst Prince's club members was congenial and friendly. Yes, there was a tiny rush by people to get down front, but it was not ugly. I don't think y'all need to be worrying about pushing and shoving to get to seats.

Prince is playing venues that basically have 2,000+ seats In Indy, there were only 150 or so people there for the sound check and at that number, we only took up the first FIVE rows.

On top of that, I am not entirely certain that all the people at the sound check that day were club members. I'd heard that an Indianapolis paper published that Prince was allowing fans in, and some regular payin' folks just showed up! They didn't check ID's.

So, by doing it this way, Prince is guaranteeing that ONLY club members will be allowed in, and you will get to keep your seats. Don't worry so much. It'll be good.

Paul
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Reply #37 posted 03/23/02 3:04pm

kissthesky

Thanks for the trip down memory lane TheMax.What a great show! RubySkye was worth waiting from 5am on Market st. to get your shot a wristband.I agree Concord would not be my choice of venue for the bay area.Whatever happened to the Paramount in Oakland? How about that for a venue!Or the Warfield Theater.

I think they will handle the willcall and entry to the venue like they did at the Oakland sound check.20 people at a time..nice and mannerly.There was no holding seats allowed.
I remember he asked us how we liked our seats. I was too stunned to say we were nowwhere near our concert seats!Wish I had now.
Say good bye to those long days of line hanging.He has lifted that burden for me at least, and is showing us his love and consideration by this new tix plan.

good bye ticket master forever!Thank you Prince for listening to us.
ksdasky




TheMax said:

I have a few recollections of a general admission Prince performance. The RubySkye show in SF last year was entirely general admission. For those in the Bay Area who attended, the ticketing and admission processes were both good and bad.

This Hit N' Run show, Dec 2000, predated the NPGMC membership and presale option. All RubySkye tickets were sold at a single box-office on the morning of the performance. Only one ticket per person. $100 per ticket.

Basically, people were discouraged from lining up at the ticket office by not being allowed to know where the line would start. When the line was established, there was a lot of jockeying for position. There were a few thousand waiting in this ill-formed "line," and a lucky group of about 700 were successful in purchasing their ticket.

Scalping was minimized by having a somewhat tamper-proof orange wristband attached to each ticket purchaser, so if you showed up at the concert, you had to have the special wristband.

At the venue later that day, I decided to show up a couple of hours early. The soundcheck could be heard from the street - "Controversy" - and I found a small group of 20 or so other hardcore-types with orange wristbands forming the line to get in. Trust me, the wait was worth it. There were a few opportunists who cut into the line, but I was more or less among the first to enter the venue.

Here's where it got interesting. My spot was center stage just behind a first row of standing women. By the way, EVERYONE STOOD for this show - hell, I don't think there were any seats on the lower floor of the venue. I had a great place, and felt that I had earned it by virtue of arriving early, etc.

But I was not really prepared for the aggressiveness of some of those around me. We were crammed in tightly, not at risk for being crushed or anything, but there were some bizarre prima donnas who were threatening those who made any physical contact with them. Two women in front of me nearly came to blows over incidental contact. There was a couple to my left (I'm sure one or both of you come to this site!) who aggressively protected "their space" by challenging anyone who got too close.

Of course, some tried to cut in front of others. Many succeeded. As far as I could see, there were no actual physical altercations, but the concept of L4OA was absent.

Here's what's cool. Despite all of that crap - standing in uncertain ticket lines, gettin' a wristband, waiting outside in line at the venue, waiting inside and protecting my space, dealing with prima donnas, etc - it was the best concert experience that I could imagine. I arrived early, and I was rewarded by the concept of general admission.

So I am strongly in favor of the general admission policy for NPGMC Members. Reward devotion. Reward work. See you in line!

Now if only he could change the venue in the Bay Area! The Concord Pavillion SUCKS.
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Reply #38 posted 03/23/02 3:10pm

NewPowerNorth

There WILL b seats in the first 15 rows. it wont be a cleared floor, so u only have to wait in line, get a SEAT and keep it...it wont be like paisley or a club show.

i think its cool they get rid of ticketmaster.

For those of u complaining about prices, look at it this way: TM charges u the same price within the first 10 rows anyways...so this isnt highway robbery here.

Who knows since they drop TM, maybe the seats may get cheaper? doubt it, but u never know.

I agree in a city with alot of ppl it can be frsutrating, but 15 rows holds roughly, based on the venues ive seen between 150-225 ppl right? not bad.

But the password thing wasnt working, and now NPGMC can validate your email and CC info...they are trying. As fo rthem asking us what to do? they've done alot to help us, i dont think we should be upset since they didnt get every single person's input...thats kinda tough.

Look at chicago, TM screwed things up and members were in the goddamn balcony!

Anyways,
Bob
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Reply #39 posted 03/23/02 3:55pm

feelUup

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WOW! Congrats NPG MUSIC CLUB!!! Thank you for trying to do the very best for your fams!

I am completely impressed with the way the music club is trying to resolve the ticket issues. I am sure no other artist's club tries this hard. No matter what,someone will complain, but this way gets rid of Ticketmaster and saves everyone 20$ !!!


They really are wonderful, reserving the first 15 rows for the members. We are all assured of great seats, no matter what.



This is the dream situation we all dreamed of when we were sitting outside Ticketmaster at 4am at HECHTS in 1993.


YeeeeeHaaaaa!!
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Reply #40 posted 03/23/02 4:40pm

DMSR

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I'll be intrested to see how this works. If it's a free for all and people are stealing seats and afraid to go to the bathroom or get up at soundcheck, I'm thinking I would rather pay a scalper $225.00 for a guaranteed 5th row seat then stress about this shit.
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Reply #41 posted 03/23/02 5:02pm

wundi

TheMax said:

The current choices seem to be:

Restricted general admission where you compete against 100 to 200 NPGMC Members for a prime general admission seat.

OR

Rigged presale via Ticketmaster where you have almost no chance of getting a seat close to the stage.



Well i got 1st row in saginaw, 2nd row in chicago, 5row in
detroit and again 2nd row in buffalo. the other 2 concert in chicago and columbus i got 2nd row balcony and 8th row floor.
i think that's not bad for internet presale as a member at ticketmaster.
u just must be fast! don't wait 10 minutes or longer when the presale starts!

i hope npgmc will go back to ticketmaster!!!

B Funky
Wundi


btw: i'm not shure if anyone has so much money for a 125$ ticket. but only at the normal presale it's possible to buy "cheapper" tickets. also the cheapest ticket for 50$.....
but that is a other story.
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Reply #42 posted 03/23/02 5:06pm

Batdance

jaikman said:



Although.....My buddy that would be going to the show with

me is 6'8" 325lbs.....He could move some people if

need be.....Hmmmmm, well if I do go all I can say is

watch your step around me! LOL


That's really unfortunate for the poor club members who get stuck in a seat behind your buddy. They won't be able to see over his head, and they won't be able to see around him either.

Is your buddy a member of the NPGMC?

That's another issue with general admission. NPGMC members not only have to compete with other members for a seat, but there are also the guests of the NPGMC members who are also going to be vying for the best seats.

In other words, a member who paid their $100 are now being forced to compete for a seat against "guests" who did not pay for a membership.
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Reply #43 posted 03/23/02 5:10pm

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It seems like Prince could never satisfy some of you. We should be greatful he evem takes the time to try to fix the problems. For that matter we should be greatful that there is even NPGMC. Last I checked there are no other artis out there doing this for there fams. So just chill and go with the flow. Sooner are later this will all work for the best.Peace&Love
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Reply #44 posted 03/23/02 5:22pm

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Excuse me, I'm not quite getting this. At first I thought the new way of selling tickets was a great idea, but now I'm reading all about "General Admission". Sorry - my English vocabulary is actually quite good, but can anybody explain what that means for me? Thanks smile
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Reply #45 posted 03/23/02 5:26pm

NewPowerNorth

Xpertlover said:

Excuse me, I'm not quite getting this. At first I thought the new way of selling tickets was a great idea, but now I'm reading all about "General Admission". Sorry - my English vocabulary is actually quite good, but can anybody explain what that means for me? Thanks smile


What this means is that your ticket will NOT say Row A seat 3, for example.
You will get a pass when you enter the theatre and you will be allowed to go anywhere within the FIRST 15 rows during the soundcheck, and THAt will be your seat.

General admission can also mean a club show, where there are no seats, but is not the case with this tour, as the theatres all have seating that cannot be removed.

Cool?

Bob
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Reply #46 posted 03/23/02 5:28pm

NewPowerNorth

Question:
Should NPGMC compensate for the supposed rudenss and inconsideration of its fans? No. thats up to us to change.

For us to complain to THEM that general admission will turn US into animals is just stupid.

i agree with these fears, but who's fault is that really?
Bob
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Reply #47 posted 03/23/02 5:43pm

TheMax

Questions for Wundi:

Were those tickets purchased online from Switzerland!?

Did you actually attend ALL of these concerts or were these seats that you could have purchased online during the presale?

Were you purchasing "one" or "two" tickets?

Did you read the posts from the Chicago presale where members logged onto TM at the first moments but wound up in the balcony?

Thanks!

TheMax
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Reply #48 posted 03/23/02 5:54pm

VAMPY

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Gnammmete all,

i just cant believe it!!! Finally Prince got that there were some problems wink i do believe he got the rite decision... @ the end...
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Reply #49 posted 03/23/02 6:16pm

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Prince is trying to do a great job here, although I think Gen Admission is not the answer.

Random seating or just plain first come first serve is great, but it somehow needs to be assigned!
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Reply #50 posted 03/23/02 6:41pm

realmccoy

Dont believe the hipe it will work only if u , us the fam (NPGFAM) will b true with each other cuz it is 1st come 1st serve da rush is on.....
holla if u hear me

Much pasiley respect 2 u all
reall mccoy detroit
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Reply #51 posted 03/23/02 7:05pm

herbthe4

Some of u people are insane. Your fighting, kicking and screaming over the BEST GODAMNED SEATS IN THE HOUSE! Do you really think it's gonna' suck if you're in row 6 instead of row 5? I saw the Purple Rain show from what seemed like a football field away. Then, as the venues got smaller, from the balcony in a small theatre, and now I'm going to be in one of those spots I always wondered who you had to blow to get.

Personally, I plan on seeing 2 kickass shows and a living legend up close and personal, occasionally turning around to view the THOUSANDS of poor suckers BEHIND me.

"Don't let nobody bring you down."
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Reply #52 posted 03/23/02 7:44pm

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Wish this would been going on when the Columbus show but hey I wish them with my success with this.
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Reply #53 posted 03/23/02 10:18pm

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herbthe4 said:

Some of u people are insane. Your fighting, kicking and screaming over the BEST GODAMNED SEATS IN THE HOUSE! Do you really think it's gonna' suck if you're in row 6 instead of row 5?


You're missing the point: EVERYONE will be paranoid that they'll be the ones stuck in row 14 or 15, leading them to line up & bum rush the place. That may sound spoiled, but let's be real - you can never be too close @ a Prince show. Even if you've been lucky enough to get front row (I never have cry) you're gonna want a seat just as good the next time around.

Don't get me wrong, I'm VERY appreciative that P is doing something about scalpers & that NPGMC is taking the responsibility of selling tickets themselves. Another thing I'd appreciate is attending a show in a civilized manner. I'm not a pusher or a shover but I've encountered many, & you're fooling yourself if you think NPGMC members can't get ugly like that.

Don't worry, we'll hear reports soon enough about GA going up in flames. Sad but true, my friends...
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Reply #54 posted 03/23/02 10:20pm

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geminipaul said:

I think some of you are doing a lot of worrying for nothing.

Based on my experience at the Indianapolis concert, the vibe amongst Prince's club members was congenial and friendly. Yes, there was a tiny rush by people to get down front, but it was not ugly. I don't think y'all need to be worrying about pushing and shoving to get to seats.

Prince is playing venues that basically have 2,000+ seats In Indy, there were only 150 or so people there for the sound check and at that number, we only took up the first FIVE rows.

On top of that, I am not entirely certain that all the people at the sound check that day were club members. I'd heard that an Indianapolis paper published that Prince was allowing fans in, and some regular payin' folks just showed up! They didn't check ID's.

So, by doing it this way, Prince is guaranteeing that ONLY club members will be allowed in, and you will get to keep your seats. Don't worry so much. It'll be good.


DREAMER... sad
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Reply #55 posted 03/23/02 10:32pm

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gman1966 said:

Damn is does not matter to you that Prince is making a serious effort for us but you fools still fucking complain. Unfucking believable!!!!!

I bet Prince is reading thread and he just shaking his head amazement, and thinking to himself damn with fans like these who needs enemies.


Of course it matters! Maybe you like verbal sparring w/ rabid Prince fans BUT I DON'T. Even in situations with assigned seats you have people squeezing into your aisle, trying to share your seat, sitting on laps - it's ridiculous! So you KNOW GA can only ensure a mess!

Should we just shut up & wait for the shit to hit? Or should we do like that guy @ the soundcheck (about Ticketmaster) & bring it up? If we want a problem solved, we have to at least discuss it & air our concerns about it.

I emailed NPGMC today (thanks for that reminder, whoever you are wink) and hopefully they can work something out. It's not a greedy request - we're just asking for order.
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Reply #56 posted 03/23/02 11:04pm

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herbthe4 said:

Some of u people are insane. Your fighting, kicking and screaming over the BEST GODAMNED SEATS IN THE HOUSE! Do you really think it's gonna' suck if you're in row 6 instead of row 5? I saw the Purple Rain show from what seemed like a football field away. Then, as the venues got smaller, from the balcony in a small theatre, and now I'm going to be in one of those spots I always wondered who you had to blow to get.

Personally, I plan on seeing 2 kickass shows and a living legend up close and personal, occasionally turning around to view the THOUSANDS of poor suckers BEHIND me.

"Don't let nobody bring you down."


I agree. I'd be very happy to be in row 15. That's pretty close and I wouldn't be knocking people over to get closer.
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Reply #57 posted 03/24/02 2:33am

NappyDewDrop

15 rows reserved sounds good to me. Thats one hell of alot of seats to be held EXCLUSIVELY for his club members. I am attending the DC show, 3/29/ midnite 2nd and 3rd row orchestra seat purchases via the 10am presale without incedent.Presale is still first come first serve.

About the new seating attempts; Imagine being in a line of 100 people. Think of knowing that you are going to be one of the first 15 for sure. I don't see the bad in that. Its not as if the staff is going to host a free for all. Like seat purchasing, it'll be first come, first serve.Line up early. smile -R
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Reply #58 posted 03/24/02 7:22am

spud80

I love reading the responses on this site. Doesn't matter what PRINCE and the NPG Music Club do, people always complain. I'll just be glad when we get a concert in the UK. I'm sure all us Brits will behave ourselves and have a good time. Personally, think it's a GREAT idea, the best yet. Will wait for the feedback from other people after they have been to the concerts. LIVE 4 LUV
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Reply #59 posted 03/24/02 7:34am

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TheAStarr said:

Prince is trying to do a great job here, although I think Gen Admission is not the answer.

Random seating or just plain first come first serve is great, but it somehow needs to be assigned!


Exactly, luck of the draw or ristbands, otherwise the lineup will start the night before and that pisses the venue off and those of us who have jobs and can't wait in line all day. Just randomly do it I think. Or first come first serve. the fact that fans are going to be sprinting to their seats is going to be really bad.
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