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Thread started 06/23/04 6:11pm

starkitty

Cons, Grifts and Scams

this is my public service announcement to the org.

if you know of any commonly (or not so commonly) used cons or grifts, PLEASE post them here.

this one is courtesy of my good friend fillmore slim:


Anycock'lldo

Straight male con, at a straight party.

If you are a dude, go up to any guy at a party and start sucking his cock.

If it makes everyone uneasy, threaten to continue unless everyone there pays you five dollars.

If people love it, charge everyone like fifteen bucks.
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Reply #1 posted 06/23/04 6:16pm

starkitty

again, fillmore, thank you:

Three Birds In The Bush:

Three man job.

One "guy who acts normal" acts normal, walking down the street.

"Lifter" lifts "guy who acts normal's" wallet.

"Lifter" runs, and a "Fake Cop" starts to chase him.

"Fake Cop" fakes pulling a hamstring or having a heart attack or just being out of breath.

The mark, a "Passer-by" sees the fake cop laying on the ground and asks if he can be of assistance (he being the passerby, not the Fake Cop).

The Fake Cop asks to borrow a cell phone if the passer-by has one, and flips a fake badge and says something like " I need to commondeer this in the name of the law."

And then he makes a personal call on the phone because it is the last of the month and he is low on minutes.
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Reply #2 posted 06/23/04 6:17pm

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hmm, that's a good one.

There's a guy going door to door offering $50 to women who will take their shirts off. Ladies, DON'T DO IT. He only wants to see your tits. disbelief
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Reply #3 posted 06/23/04 6:19pm

starkitty

CarrieMpls said:

hmm, that's a good one.

There's a guy going door to door offering $50 to women who will take their shirts off. Ladies, DON'T DO IT. He only wants to see your tits. disbelief


yes carrie!!

that reminds me of this one:


The Brooklyn Hustle

3 man job

1st man pretends to be intoxicated
2nd man pretends to be a preacher or scientist
3rd man is a good looking smooth talker

The three men also pretend to be blind.

At Fantasy Fest and Mardis Gras, they give beads to any girl who will show her breasts. The girls, believing the guys are blind, will keep their shirts up for an extra long time, fuck each other, and make faces at the blind guys.

When the girls walk off, the guys are all high fiving and catcalling, BUT

one time now yall REVERSE, REVERSE
The girls, down the road a bit, will sell the beads for dollars after they insert them between their legs.

Score one for the ladies.

*fillmore spelling edit
[This message was edited Wed Jun 23 18:22:58 2004 by starkitty]
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Reply #4 posted 06/23/04 6:25pm

CarrieMpls

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starkitty said:


Score one for the ladies.


highfive
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Reply #5 posted 06/23/04 6:29pm

wHiTEgIRlCrAzY

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Pigeon Drop or "Found Money" Scam
Often occurring in a mall or shopping complex parking lot, a well-dressed young woman approaches the selected victim, usually an older woman. The younger woman will claim she has just found a bag, briefcase or envelope and inquire about ownership.

Or she will casually start talking to the prospective victim, attempting to befriend her by chatting about children or grandchildren, when a third woman comes by looking for the owner of a just-found bag, or asking "Did you drop this envelope full of money?"

When the three look inside the bag for identification they find what appears to be a large amount of cash with some indication that it comes from an illegal activity, such as gambling or drug money.

There is no label or ID present and the stated likelihood is that whoever lost the money probably came by it dishonestly and can not claim it, so your returning the money is ruled out as impossible.

A very sophisticated scheme unfolds for victims who believe that the two women, who work as a team, have really found a bag of money and want to share it.

First they will talk excitedly about how much money is in the bag and what each could do with the money if it was hers, skillfully drawing you greedily into the benefits of the scheme.

One of the two younger women will probably claim that she works for someone, perhaps a lawyer, who will know what to do with the lost money. They try to draw you further into the discussion and decision-making.

A call is made on the spot, and you are then told by one of the con artists that she has consulted with a lawyer, who stated that if they want to share the money they will have to show proof that they have sufficient funds to support themselves during the time the lawyer supposedly complies with the law by seeking the true owner.

He gives the recommendation that each person deposit a certain amount of money:

to provide evidence of "individual financial responsibility",
as "good faith",
to show that all those involved are acting above-board,

along with the found money, into a safety deposit box or his trust account, to see if anyone claims it first before dividing it up.

You withdraw and put $2000 to $3000 in the bag with the found money and other "good faith" money already deposited by the two con women. They then use a variety of tactics to dump you.

The one who claims to work for the lawyer offers to take your money to him, then returns saying the lawyer wants to talk to you. They give you a name and an address which turn out to be bogus. Or, you may be urged to wait a week before calling, giving them time to move on.

You may be asked to take the bag containing the money to the lawyer's office while the con women park the car or go to the bathroom. Out of your sight, they have switched the bag for one containing paper of similar weight.

The victim - a pigeon - gets dropped holding a bag of paper scraps. She not only loses the hope of a quick profit, but also her own money.

It should be noted that strangers would not likely confide in other strangers regarding found money or offer to share their good fortune with you.

There are various reasons why this works when it is targeted against elderly women.

their vision may be blurred by hopes of getting something for nothing,
victims become concerned that resistance will result in physical violence,
they often carelessly carry larger sums of ready cash.

This crime proliferates because victims, who fear being labeled incompetent, fail to report it. The cons know what to say and who to say it to, as they target as many victims as possible in a short period of time.

One two woman team, eventually charged with Felony Theft, would approach elderly females on the street and offer to assist them or pretend to be acquainted with them. Once they gained the confidence of the selected victim, they would steal her jewelry, credit cards and money.
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Reply #6 posted 06/23/04 6:33pm

starkitty

thank you wHiteGIRL. it's a damn shame what people do for money.


RED LIGHT SPECIAL

take a red ballpoint or super-fine tipped (this is important!) sharpie to the store with you.


BOO-YA!


50% off.
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Reply #7 posted 06/23/04 6:45pm

hIsMiRRoR

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wHiTEgIRlCrAzY said:

Pigeon Drop or "Found Money" Scam
Often occurring in a mall or shopping complex parking lot, a well-dressed young woman approaches the selected victim, usually an older woman. The younger woman will claim she has just found a bag, briefcase or envelope and inquire about ownership.

Or she will casually start talking to the prospective victim, attempting to befriend her by chatting about children or grandchildren, when a third woman comes by looking for the owner of a just-found bag, or asking "Did you drop this envelope full of money?"

When the three look inside the bag for identification they find what appears to be a large amount of cash with some indication that it comes from an illegal activity, such as gambling or drug money.

There is no label or ID present and the stated likelihood is that whoever lost the money probably came by it dishonestly and can not claim it, so your returning the money is ruled out as impossible.

A very sophisticated scheme unfolds for victims who believe that the two women, who work as a team, have really found a bag of money and want to share it.

First they will talk excitedly about how much money is in the bag and what each could do with the money if it was hers, skillfully drawing you greedily into the benefits of the scheme.

One of the two younger women will probably claim that she works for someone, perhaps a lawyer, who will know what to do with the lost money. They try to draw you further into the discussion and decision-making.

A call is made on the spot, and you are then told by one of the con artists that she has consulted with a lawyer, who stated that if they want to share the money they will have to show proof that they have sufficient funds to support themselves during the time the lawyer supposedly complies with the law by seeking the true owner.

He gives the recommendation that each person deposit a certain amount of money:

to provide evidence of "individual financial responsibility",
as "good faith",
to show that all those involved are acting above-board,

along with the found money, into a safety deposit box or his trust account, to see if anyone claims it first before dividing it up.

You withdraw and put $2000 to $3000 in the bag with the found money and other "good faith" money already deposited by the two con women. They then use a variety of tactics to dump you.

The one who claims to work for the lawyer offers to take your money to him, then returns saying the lawyer wants to talk to you. They give you a name and an address which turn out to be bogus. Or, you may be urged to wait a week before calling, giving them time to move on.

You may be asked to take the bag containing the money to the lawyer's office while the con women park the car or go to the bathroom. Out of your sight, they have switched the bag for one containing paper of similar weight.

The victim - a pigeon - gets dropped holding a bag of paper scraps. She not only loses the hope of a quick profit, but also her own money.

It should be noted that strangers would not likely confide in other strangers regarding found money or offer to share their good fortune with you.

There are various reasons why this works when it is targeted against elderly women.

their vision may be blurred by hopes of getting something for nothing,
victims become concerned that resistance will result in physical violence,
they often carelessly carry larger sums of ready cash.

This crime proliferates because victims, who fear being labeled incompetent, fail to report it. The cons know what to say and who to say it to, as they target as many victims as possible in a short period of time.

One two woman team, eventually charged with Felony Theft, would approach elderly females on the street and offer to assist them or pretend to be acquainted with them. Once they gained the confidence of the selected victim, they would steal her jewelry, credit cards and money.

Something like this happened on The Golden Girls once. Blanche and Sophia were at the mall and an attractive middle-aged man asked if they'd lost a wallet. There was a lot of money in there and they argue over what to do with it. Eventually it was suggested that they open a joint bank account and put the money in there, along with I think $1000 from each of them and if no one ever claimed the wallet they could split the money. There was a lady impersonating a nun who was with that guy, who told them they should do that. Sophia and Blanche went home thinking about the good deed they'd done and what they'd use the extra money for, and then they found out the money was gone and they'd been scammed. I forget how it ended.
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Reply #8 posted 06/23/04 6:50pm

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hIsMiRRoR said:


Something like this happened on The Golden Girls once. Blanche and Sophia were at the mall and an attractive middle-aged man asked if they'd lost a wallet. There was a lot of money in there and they argue over what to do with it. Eventually it was suggested that they open a joint bank account and put the money in there, along with I think $1000 from each of them and if no one ever claimed the wallet they could split the money. There was a lady impersonating a nun who was with that guy, who told them they should do that. Sophia and Blanche went home thinking about the good deed they'd done and what they'd use the extra money for, and then they found out the money was gone and they'd been scammed. I forget how it ended.


I think they talked about it over cheesecake and Rose told another St Olaf story.

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Reply #9 posted 06/23/04 7:07pm

starkitty

I forgot how it ended.


nice one.
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Reply #10 posted 06/23/04 7:10pm

2the9s

Here's a scam:

Pull my finger!

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Reply #11 posted 06/23/04 7:18pm

althom

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CarrieMpls said:

There's a guy going door to door offering $50 to women who will take their shirts off. Ladies, DON'T DO IT. He only wants to see your tits. disbelief

whistling
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Reply #12 posted 06/23/04 7:23pm

starkitty

The Lighthouse


Stake out a chain restaurant to see when the waitresses change shifts. Maybe stake it out for 3 days or so.

Go to eat about a half an hour before the lunch shift waitress gets off. Make demands like more ice for the free water and more bread for the table. Really stress her. Stress her so bad that she says "I don't need this shit anymore" and just leaves like 5 minutes early and forgets to tell the next waitress covering her station about your table.

OH YEAH.

Free lunch.
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Reply #13 posted 06/23/04 7:30pm

wHiTEgIRlCrAzY

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starkitty said:

The Lighthouse


Stake out a chain restaurant to see when the waitresses change shifts. Maybe stake it out for 3 days or so.

Go to eat about a half an hour before the lunch shift waitress gets off. Make demands like more ice for the free water and more bread for the table. Really stress her. Stress her so bad that she says "I don't need this shit anymore" and just leaves like 5 minutes early and forgets to tell the next waitress covering her station about your table.

OH YEAH.

Free lunch.

or just goto sportmart,pick-up a night-crawler for 50 cents n toss into your already have eaten garden salad u were saving for after your meal.
disco...everyone at table gets meal for free.
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Reply #14 posted 06/23/04 7:34pm

CarrieMpls

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wHiTEgIRlCrAzY said:

starkitty said:

The Lighthouse


Stake out a chain restaurant to see when the waitresses change shifts. Maybe stake it out for 3 days or so.

Go to eat about a half an hour before the lunch shift waitress gets off. Make demands like more ice for the free water and more bread for the table. Really stress her. Stress her so bad that she says "I don't need this shit anymore" and just leaves like 5 minutes early and forgets to tell the next waitress covering her station about your table.

OH YEAH.

Free lunch.

or just goto sportmart,pick-up a night-crawler for 50 cents n toss into your already have eaten garden salad u were saving for after your meal.
disco...everyone at table gets meal for free.


Have you been watching Victor/Victoria?
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Reply #15 posted 06/23/04 7:34pm

starkitty

Cat on a Hot Tin Roof

Requires a teenaged girl.

Girl leaves her window open on a hot summer evening. She throws the cat outside the window and screams down to her parents that Fluffy has gotten out again, and she's up on the roof.

Girl climbs out the window and sneaks around the block to the party where she does E and lemon drops. Forgets all about the lie, but fortunately steps on the cat's tail when she comes home and gets scratched up pretty nice. Brings the cat in and she's home safe.
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Reply #16 posted 06/23/04 7:35pm

hIsMiRRoR

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CarrieMpls said:

hIsMiRRoR said:


Something like this happened on The Golden Girls once. Blanche and Sophia were at the mall and an attractive middle-aged man asked if they'd lost a wallet. There was a lot of money in there and they argue over what to do with it. Eventually it was suggested that they open a joint bank account and put the money in there, along with I think $1000 from each of them and if no one ever claimed the wallet they could split the money. There was a lady impersonating a nun who was with that guy, who told them they should do that. Sophia and Blanche went home thinking about the good deed they'd done and what they'd use the extra money for, and then they found out the money was gone and they'd been scammed. I forget how it ended.


I think they talked about it over cheesecake and Rose told another St Olaf story.


lol Obviously. I meant I forgot how they got out of the scam. But yes, I do believe cheesecake and at leat one St. Olaf story was involved... lol
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Reply #17 posted 06/23/04 7:40pm

starkitty

I Gave at the Office

To avoid making donations, a person will claim to have made one at the office.
This is usually not true. Ask for proof.
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Reply #18 posted 06/23/04 7:43pm

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starkitty said:

I Gave at the Office

To avoid making donations, a person will claim to have made one at the office.
This is usually not true. Ask for proof.


Hey! I've used a variation on this one and it was true! (lady collecting for NARAL going door to door and I'm already a member... United Way through payroll deduction...) Don't make them be more persistent on me!
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Reply #19 posted 06/23/04 7:45pm

starkitty

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You May Have Already Won One Million Dollars!!
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Reply #20 posted 06/23/04 7:47pm

starkitty

Sea Monkeys


I really thought they were going to look like they did on the box.
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Reply #21 posted 06/23/04 7:50pm

starkitty

Papa's Got a Brand New Bag

In crowded malls, especially around Christmas, a thief buys a pair of socks.

Thief asks for a huge bag.
Thief spots a 'mark' with a bag of similar size.
Thief throws fake baby in the air.
When the mark reaches to catch the baby, thief switches the bag, and takes the mark's credit cards!


*fs
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Reply #22 posted 06/23/04 8:59pm

2the9s

starkitty said:

Sea Monkeys


I really thought they were going to look like they did on the box.


They were all like smiling! And the "wife" had earrings if I remember right! WTF??
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Reply #23 posted 06/24/04 2:17am

Christopher

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the clip joint scams . smile
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Reply #24 posted 06/24/04 7:02am

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Christopher said:

the clip joint scams . smile

i need elaboration.
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Reply #25 posted 06/24/04 7:15am

starkitty

i'm plagiarizing this:


Whatcha Got There?

In New Orleans, 'street docs' claim the ability to diagnose all major disease by feeling your privates.

To appear legit, a street doc will have a lab coat, a medical dictionary, and a book of photographs with famous people.

After thorough investigation (they do spend a lot of time on your privates), a diagnosis is given. The con will not charge you, claiming to be part of a non-profit organization or community service detail.

There is no charge because the street doc does not want you reaching for your purse or wallet. Why? Because the street doc has taken it. I thought you would have guessed.

*Authorities say well over half diagnoses are incorrect.
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Reply #26 posted 06/24/04 2:51pm

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starkitty said:

Christopher said:

the clip joint scams . smile

i need elaboration.

i was reading about this last night in some uk mag

but anyways heres basically near to what i read from some messege board


"Don't ever, ever go to any of the "strip clubs" in London's Soho. I was passing by a certain club that read "GIRLS" above the door and one of their girls comes up to me and offers a 5 pound strip-tease dance--in an effort to get me in. I go in, pay the 5 pounds, they sit me down, I am offered a menu and a hostess chats with me at my side. One by one, three or four unattractive girls walk into the chamber so I can "choose" one. I of course didn't choose any of them and I continued to chat with the hostess.
All of a sudden, one of the unattractive girls and a big muscular bouncer demand payment for the hostess' time. The bastards charged me 295 pounds--just under $500! It turns out that the blasted menu had the hostess price listed for 295 pounds in fine print after all the normal-priced services/drinks were listed. (I must add that the bastards were kind enough to discount the 5 pounds I paid at the beginning from the 295 pound charge. At least they were considerate.)

To this day, I still kick myself for having walked in there thinking I was to pay only 5 pounds for a striptease show.
"Joe"
Houston, TX USA 12/06/00 "
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Reply #27 posted 06/24/04 2:55pm

Natsume

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Christopher said:

To this day, I still kick myself for having walked in there thinking I was to pay only 5 pounds for a striptease show.
"Joe"
Houston, TX USA 12/06/00 "

Well, see, here lies the problem. He's from Texas.

smile
I mean, like, where is the sun?
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Reply #28 posted 06/24/04 2:58pm

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Natsume said:

Christopher said:

To this day, I still kick myself for having walked in there thinking I was to pay only 5 pounds for a striptease show.
"Joe"
Houston, TX USA 12/06/00 "

Well, see, here lies the problem. He's from Texas.

smile


LAWL

run one with me..

we can get a young hooka to stand outside and offer a bukkake party for 5 pounds.
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Reply #29 posted 06/24/04 3:02pm

starkitty

Natsume said:

Christopher said:

To this day, I still kick myself for having walked in there thinking I was to pay only 5 pounds for a striptease show.
"Joe"
Houston, TX USA 12/06/00 "

Well, see, here lies the problem. He's from Texas.

smile


THE STARS AT NIGHT

ARE BIG AND BRIGHT...


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