DiminutiveRocker said:

Zelaira says a lot of things...come on people.....dont encourage her...she has admitted that she is portraying a character.....

sosgemini said:

if it's for 'entertainment' value, then it's a sick fucking joke.

ok...

i felt i said what needed to be said last night. i feel right with myself.

i don't want to speculate whether it's real or not, because i could really get pissed off by something like this.

like i said, for my peace of mind - i wish her well. that's it.

starkitty said:

IF it's for entertainment then you're right, starkitty

I have a sick feeling it WAS all a joke...a joke that is DEFINATELY not funny

sosgemini said:
Zelaira says a lot of things...come on people.....dont encourage her...she has admitted that she is portraying a character.....[/quote]

Has she really admitted she's playing a character? I think all of us regulars on the org suspect it, but as far as I know, she's never admitted it, or broken character for that matter. So what is real then, Does she really go to all these concerts? She was suspiciously absent from the org during the time she claimed she was going to these concerts.

She's always asking other orgers to meet up with her, surely someone must have actually met her, she's been to some paisley park events too, there must be someone here who can settle this, someone must have met the one and only Z in the flesh

sosgemini said:
Zelaira says a lot of things...come on people.....dont encourage her...she has admitted that she is portraying a character.....[/quote]

Has she really admitted she's playing a character? I think all of us regulars on the org suspect it, but as far as I know, she's never admitted it, or broken character for that matter. So what is real then, Does she really go to all these concerts? She was suspiciously absent from the org during the time she claimed she was going to these concerts.

She's always asking other orgers to meet up with her, surely someone must have actually met her, she's been to some paisley park events too, there must be someone here who can settle this, someone must have met the one and only Z in the flesh

LAProducer said:

Has she really admitted she's playing a character? I think all of us regulars on the org suspect it, but as far as I know, she's never admitted it, or broken character for that matter. So what is real then, Does she really go to all these concerts? She was suspiciously absent from the org during the time she claimed she was going to these concerts.

She's always asking other orgers to meet up with her, surely someone must have actually met her, she's been to some paisley park events too, there must be someone here who can settle this, someone must have met the one and only Z in the flesh[/quote]


yes, she admitted to me a month or so back in the prince-music forum that it was all a schtick...the comments were deleted a couple hours later though....

ive chatted to a couple people who have met her in person and said she is the sweetest and most normal of people.....i get the feeling she mixes elements of her real life into her stories and posts...but, its all done for reaction...

starkitty said:

I COMPLETELY AGREE

As an impartial observer, I think it's exceptionally unlikely that anything she's posted in this thread or anywhere else ought be taken seriously. She's almost certainly taking the piss, as they say.
[This message was edited Mon Jun 7 17:34:21 2004 by flipwilson]

sosgemini said:

yes, she admitted to me a month or so back in the prince-music forum that it was all a schtick...the comments were deleted a couple hours later though....

ive chatted to a couple people who have met her in person and said she is the sweetest and most normal of people.....i get the feeling she mixes elements of her real life into her stories and posts...but, its all done for reaction...[/quote]

Really?? I had no idea. I've actually exchanged org notes with her before, and she comes across pretty much the same as she does on the org. It's a little crazy to follow prince around and go to all these shows and move all the time. This really begs the question. What's real and what's not? I'm not convinced it's shtick, she's just so out there that it has to be real

Who deleted her coments, her or a moderator, it doesn't make sense that a moderator would delete them, it certainly doesn't violate and org policy and actually would put things in perspective regarding her posts
[This message was edited Mon Jun 7 17:37:39 2004 by LAProducer]

LAProducer said:

no..she deleted them.....

Sweeny79 said:

Glad I could help sweety! I guess Byron and I are strong medicine, or as I like to say, you always feel better after this littlepill!

Hmmm...

Well... I have to say that I did question whether or not this was "real", simply because of her antics and, really, posting style on here through the years... (it's difficult for me to believe that someone is that "out there" all the time).

However, I then thought a moment and took a look at the text of this thread, and quickly pushed aside the thought that this may be part of, what may or may not be, her "character". Thinking that one would not make light of something such as this, especially bringing up a child into it all. Though, I was still skeptical, as I used "serious" towards the end there a couple of times, still, in the back of my mind wondering if this was all a joke... then, again, thinking that no one in their right mind would make a joke about suicide, in this manner - meaning saying they were seriously considering it and being selfish enough to leave a child behind.

Zelaria... if this was all a "joke" to you, something that you posted in "character". Then I have absolutely no respect for you at all (not that it would or should matter to you anyway). And, I personally do not find it funny since I have struggled with thoughts of suicide for a good part of my life, my only saving grace for the past seven years being my children, and knowing that I lost two people this year who actually went through with the act and shot and killed themselves.


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[This message was edited Mon Jun 7 17:57:45 2004 by AzureStarr]

AzureStarr said:

Azure, I thought that too, that she wouldn't bring a child into the equation unless she was serious. These are serious issues and I cant understand the logic that would think of them as a joke.

LittlePill said:

You guys are! and.... you a dork but I loves ya anyway

flipwilson said:

Don't know if she's "real" or not, but I also noticed that minutes before this post - she made another carefree post about some "hilarious" TV show and asked if anyone else has seen it... I hope this post isn't real... but if it is, I hope she gets the help she needs.

Sweeny79 said:

I'm no dork I'm LittlePill.

Well guys, It's been awhile since Zelaira's posted on this thread.

I wonder if she's busy eating a bag of hershey kisses or a box of Godiva's?

Hope you're feeling better Zel!!

sinisterpentatonic said:

she said she was going to the hospital to get help - that's the last I heard from her...

hope she's OK too

Natisse said:

The org says she's online!!!

Thank You all for your Kind words. I WAs SERIOUSLy DEPRESSED last Night. I Do Suffer Deep Depression. It seems after giving Birth and having an operation I Have this Depression thing. I Haven't been to the Doctor yet. I Promise to call tommorrow. See if I was Back in Ny my Therapist is there. I am TOTALLY NOT HAPPY in FLORIDA. I WANNA Be Someplace Else. This is my Problem. I have a Child who lives Here so it's like a PROBLEM,However she doesn't Even Care if I Leave. Everybody tells me go and be Happy. I Just Wish in a Way I could Change Certain Things But I Cannot ya Know. Plus I have Packed -Up a Whole House By Myself and I am Only 1 Woman and I have Tackled on so much. I suffer from Epstein Barr, Epilepsey and other Assorted Aliments. I do Not take Medication. MS runs in my Family. I have had Seizures. Nobody Told me..Thanks Parents..for Not Telling me I as a child was Epileptic. I Never took medication. I also have like low-blood pressure and sugar so well maybe that's why I feel Lousy cause I don't eat well. I don't Know guys. I guess I need Rest and a Nutritionist. Moms been in the Hospital 4 months ..It's been a Mess. Why did we Leave NY? I'm asking myself That Every Day. But I do LOVE California and well Minnie but the Cold I Couldn't and Prince didn't Play and well They were like trying to Rehab me . They didn't realize ANYBODY would Freak with My Life. It's a Crazy Life I lead. Sometimes Probably I would be better to take it Easy. I was in Vegas and slept a total of 4hrs in 2 days. Needless to say coming home I slept through my stop so that delayed me like a day. I Really Love Prince but he thinks I'm too Hyper or Something for him. It's a shame Cause I Know if Things were Different we Could be Great Friends if not More. I am Not Crazy just Problem Ladden at the moment. I Know that I have INVOLVED everyone on this Website into My Private AFFAIRS. Don't Ya Think I have Taken SUCH a RISK to TOTALLY EXPOSE MYSELF and be VULNERABLE? But well I feel ya will Understand and Not Hurt me. If I am a Dancer well you See it All well so What Should I Hide? I'm an Open Person if I was into Porno You would SEE EVERYTHING Right? O.K. well, you Wouldn't have to Know all My Feelings..That's True Could be Some Mystery Right well .....But at Least I'm Honest and I feel well others can be Straightforward also. Still being honest and being RUDE is Quite Different. I feel Disrespecting People is VERY WRONG. ALWAYS GIVE PEOPLE RESPECT.....

Well, I'll just say right now that I'm totally fucking confused!!

Zelaira said:

The crying won't stop for a while, even if you take medication, but the pain will numb a little, and you'd be sleeping a bit better and more for a while. You'll need to heal just like from having an accident. Take it easy, make sure people around you take good care of you.

If someone else is taking care of your child, make sure whenever you see her to tell her you love her and that you have problems that have nothing to do with her. Tell her she's perfect the way she is and that you're just trying to get better so you can be together soon. (even if it is not how you feel, that is all she needs, she needs to know it's your problem not hers).

F*** that doctor, don't let him get you. He's not worth it. Be strong, you're worth it. Think of all the stuff you loved in live before getting depressed, it'll all come back somehow. Maybe not in the same way, but maybe even better.

Trusth me, I've been there. Make sure you don't try selfmedication (or wors), it'll destroy not only you, but also every good human being around you.

I so hope you'll find a little strength in you to keep holding on. You're doughter is not better of without you!!! She needs you no matter what!!!


[This message was edited Tue Jun 8 2:00:51 2004 by Whateva]

starkitty said:

well starkitty, i feel the same way. you did the right thing. if this Zelaira is nothing more than a character, than things have gone far enough now, and i hope the moderators (one of them is laughing loudest actually) will do something about it. a joke is good, but making fake threats of suicide is not funny. it's not funny that people are believing it. and if this is all real, than it's not funny either, is it !

i have no problems with Pook being a character, because it's all too obvious. he is just a monkey.

Tis True and I thank you for your words of Encouragement. Don't ya know that Bastard has me Not Being able to Work or Date. I wish he was Dead for Deceiving me. He's a Greedy Mutherfucker. Ruined my life and my Daughters and Family's. Nobody wants to help me..Am I below a Human? I Hardly Think so. I Have Human Rights. I didn't Operate on mYself. Plus I think it was a Bias against me..Human and Cival Rights and even gay Rights against me. This Doctor Thought I was Gay. I'm far from Gay... He has me in the Hospital and Not Believeing in God anymore..Now, is this Right? I Didn't Deserve This..I am and Always Always will be a Good person. He should Die. Sorry but what he did to me He should die. I Hope he does! I hate Him! If I have One Friend just One PLEASE Do Something to Him He's an EVIL LYING FRAUD.....

If it Wasn't for Prince's Concerts..I SWEAR to Whomever is Listening I woulda Killed Myself from an Overdose Cause I Cannot Work in my Field nor date men who want me cause this Doctor Took MY LIFE FROM ME.. Like I was Trash not Deserving of a Man or Men to Love Ever again. To make me Cry Continuously and Not Care for my Daughter and Destroy my Happiness. I would be Dead if Not for Prince. He has Kept me Alive. I almost Broke my Hand 2x from hitting walls.

Guys ask me out and I Can't go out with them. I'm Ruined. I can't work and well to any of my friends I would be working if I could. I Love you all. This Garbage Head has me on hold. I should be a Virtual Pauper for this Trash Head calling himself a Doctor of what DEATH?

Zelaira said:

Zel,

I'm a little confused. How can you post really happy posts 1 minute and then really desperate sad posts on this thread the next. People who are bi-polar don't change from minute to minute like this. Are you saying you are currently in a hospital, you still haven't said specifically what this doctor did to you...I think we all want to know and could help you better if you are a little more specific and answer questions directly. Anyway, i sincerely do wish you the best

If you are serious about all this, then you need to get help ASAP. Suicidal thoughts like this are not healthy, and you owe it to your daughter to take care of yourself. Plenty of folks here have provided you with sound advice, and it would behoove you to take it.

If this is not serious, then I have to give you a bit of friendly advice: knock it off now. You may find it sickly humorous, but you need to realise that you are ultimately playing off of people's kindness, and that is never cool. Take it from someone who has been burned from his own sick jokes, you may not intend to hurt people with it, but you will. Its a horrible thing that will haunt you for a good, long while. I'm not attacking you, since I have no idea of your sincerity one way or another. I'm just trying to make a few things clear to you.

dawntreader said:

yeah...that would fucking be me...what would i or any of the other moderators do about this? this person already acknowledged its all a fake...we allow other "character" posters to exist.....
[This message was edited Tue Jun 8 6:52:52 2004 by sosgemini]