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Thread started 05/12/04 5:42am

IAmTheTouch

Undisputed

ok, i admit it, i dug up my Rave CD this morning... lol

the song made me think about what is truly undisputed in our lives, and i couldn't come up with much. many things that i personally consider to be the truth are disputed by others and vice versa.

peace is apparently relative. people argue over levels of kindness and compassion ever day. even things like the importance of clean air or unpolluted water is in dispute - companies and organizations have stipulated "acceptable" levels of contamination.

do you know of any undisputed truths?
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Reply #1 posted 05/12/04 6:05am

EllisDee

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i don't follow trends, they just follow me..? biggrin
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Candy Dulfer is my boo... razz
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Reply #2 posted 05/12/04 6:07am

AsylumUtopia

IAmTheTouch said:

do you know of any undisputed truths?

Everybody dies ?

and ... em, that's about it.
Lemmy, Bowie, Prince, Leonard. RIP.
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Reply #3 posted 05/12/04 6:20am

IAmTheTouch

AsylumUtopia said:

IAmTheTouch said:

do you know of any undisputed truths?

Everybody dies ?

and ... em, that's about it.


what about reincarnation?
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Reply #4 posted 05/12/04 6:21am

IAmTheTouch

EllisDee said:

i don't follow trends, they just follow me..? biggrin


lol
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Reply #5 posted 05/12/04 6:23am

AsylumUtopia

IAmTheTouch said:


what about reincarnation?


Well, I'd have to dispute that.
We live, we die, the end. hmmm
Lemmy, Bowie, Prince, Leonard. RIP.
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Reply #6 posted 05/12/04 6:25am

IAmTheTouch

AsylumUtopia said:

IAmTheTouch said:


what about reincarnation?


Well, I'd have to dispute that.
We live, we die, the end. hmmm


so, since even Buddhists believe that the physical body dies, maybe that death thing could be counted as undisputed. cool!

anything else?
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Reply #7 posted 05/12/04 6:59am

AsylumUtopia

IAmTheTouch said:

AsylumUtopia said:



Well, I'd have to dispute that.
We live, we die, the end. hmmm


so, since even Buddhists believe that the physical body dies, maybe that death thing could be counted as undisputed. cool!

anything else?

Hmm, not sure. There would be little point in me disputing, for example, the existence of cheese, because I just ate some and it tasted, well, existential.
I guess we could dispute the existence of death if we dispute the concept of reality. If I don't really exist then I can't really die, so maybe there are no undisputed truths at all.
Lemmy, Bowie, Prince, Leonard. RIP.
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Reply #8 posted 05/12/04 7:00am

TheFrog

AsylumUtopia said:

IAmTheTouch said:



so, since even Buddhists believe that the physical body dies, maybe that death thing could be counted as undisputed. cool!

anything else?

Hmm, not sure. There would be little point in me disputing, for example, the existence of cheese, because I just ate some and it tasted, well, existential.
I guess we could dispute the existence of death if we dispute the concept of reality. If I don't really exist then I can't really die, so maybe there are no undisputed truths at all.


I dispute that! mad
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Reply #9 posted 05/12/04 7:03am

AsylumUtopia

TheFrog said:

AsylumUtopia said:


Hmm, not sure. There would be little point in me disputing, for example, the existence of cheese, because I just ate some and it tasted, well, existential.
I guess we could dispute the existence of death if we dispute the concept of reality. If I don't really exist then I can't really die, so maybe there are no undisputed truths at all.


I dispute that! mad

Which bit - the cheese, or the reality of cheese ?

Or the death bit ?
Lemmy, Bowie, Prince, Leonard. RIP.
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Reply #10 posted 05/12/04 7:04am

TheFrog

AsylumUtopia said:

TheFrog said:



I dispute that! mad

Which bit - the cheese, or the reality of cheese ?

Or the death bit ?


confused I'm not sure now. I'm disputing the reasons why i was disputing your comments. Ignore me, and carry on, people. smile
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Reply #11 posted 05/12/04 7:09am

AsylumUtopia

TheFrog said:

AsylumUtopia said:


Which bit - the cheese, or the reality of cheese ?

Or the death bit ?


confused I'm not sure now. I'm disputing the reasons why i was disputing your comments. Ignore me, and carry on, people. smile

Ah damn. I was looking forward to some existential mind-bending skullfuckery.

And if you're disputing your own reasons for disputing my comments does that mean you're talking to yourself again ? lol

Or are you about to go *foop!* and disappear in a puff of logic ?
Lemmy, Bowie, Prince, Leonard. RIP.
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Reply #12 posted 05/12/04 8:30am

IAmTheTouch

AsylumUtopia said:


Ah damn. I was looking forward to some existential mind-bending skullfuckery.


i looove that kind of stuff! does my computer exist? do the Rocky Mountains? or are they all delusions of our minds, since they will disintegrate eventually?
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Reply #13 posted 05/12/04 8:34am

Cloudbuster

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Reply #14 posted 05/12/04 8:40am

AsylumUtopia

IAmTheTouch said:

AsylumUtopia said:


Ah damn. I was looking forward to some existential mind-bending skullfuckery.


i looove that kind of stuff! does my computer exist? do the Rocky Mountains? or are they all delusions of our minds, since they will disintegrate eventually?

Same here! One of the things I love about the Matrix (the film) is that it makes one question the nature of reality, well it makes me question the nature of reality anyway.

Assuming that reality is what we take it to be at face value, then I'm pretty sure the Rocky's exist, cos a bit of one of them fell on my car and made a very real dent. I also fell down part of another Rocky while looking at dinosaur footprints. The pain was real, as was the blood and torn clothing.

But on a more serious note, have you looked into quantum theory at all ? Reality gets very questionable when you get down into the nuts and bolts, so to speak.
Lemmy, Bowie, Prince, Leonard. RIP.
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Reply #15 posted 05/12/04 8:47am

TheFrog

AsylumUtopia said:

IAmTheTouch said:



i looove that kind of stuff! does my computer exist? do the Rocky Mountains? or are they all delusions of our minds, since they will disintegrate eventually?

Same here! One of the things I love about the Matrix (the film) is that it makes one question the nature of reality, well it makes me question the nature of reality anyway.

Assuming that reality is what we take it to be at face value, then I'm pretty sure the Rocky's exist, cos a bit of one of them fell on my car and made a very real dent. I also fell down part of another Rocky while looking at dinosaur footprints. The pain was real, as was the blood and torn clothing.

But on a more serious note, have you looked into quantum theory at all ? Reality gets very questionable when you get down into the nuts and bolts, so to speak.


Quantum theory screws the mind. nod Measureable reality when we observe only (and just a stream of possibilities otherwise)?!. It's wonderful.
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Reply #16 posted 05/12/04 8:57am

IAmTheTouch

TheFrog said:

AsylumUtopia said:


Same here! One of the things I love about the Matrix (the film) is that it makes one question the nature of reality, well it makes me question the nature of reality anyway.

Assuming that reality is what we take it to be at face value, then I'm pretty sure the Rocky's exist, cos a bit of one of them fell on my car and made a very real dent. I also fell down part of another Rocky while looking at dinosaur footprints. The pain was real, as was the blood and torn clothing.

But on a more serious note, have you looked into quantum theory at all ? Reality gets very questionable when you get down into the nuts and bolts, so to speak.


Quantum theory screws the mind. nod Measureable reality when we observe only (and just a stream of possibilities otherwise)?!. It's wonderful.


i've had a small dose of it from a brilliant co-worker of mine... amazing stuff... puts our petty little lives into some serious perspective! nod
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Reply #17 posted 05/12/04 9:29am

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You certainly have a way of making people think... hug
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Being happy doesn't mean that everything is perfect, it means you've decided to look beyond the imperfections... unknown
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Reply #18 posted 05/12/04 10:48am

IAmTheTouch

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You certainly have a way of making people think... hug


lol it's my third most favorite thing to do...
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Reply #19 posted 05/12/04 10:51am

Byron

The only undisputed thing I can think of...is that I so rock. headbang







Well, that, and that New Power Soul causes intestinal cramps in 80% of its listeners...
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Reply #20 posted 05/12/04 10:57am

IAmTheTouch

Byron said:

The only undisputed thing I can think of...is that I so rock. headbang


well, since you ARE the Australian Neil Diamond...! lol


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Reply #21 posted 05/12/04 2:40pm

JDINTERACTIVE

It is undisputed that I am quite superb. mr.green
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Reply #22 posted 05/12/04 4:20pm

IAmTheTouch

JDINTERACTIVE said:

It is undisputed that I am quite superb. mr.green


if it were ANYbody else around here, i'd argue... but you're dead-on, dahling! nod
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Reply #23 posted 05/12/04 4:22pm

Therapy

Shit is brown? shrug
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Reply #24 posted 05/12/04 4:23pm

IAmTheTouch

Therapy said:

Shit is brown? shrug


some poodle shit is white...
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Reply #25 posted 05/12/04 4:25pm

Therapy

IAmTheTouch said:

Therapy said:

Shit is brown? shrug


some poodle shit is white...


OK, human shit is brown?
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Reply #26 posted 05/12/04 4:26pm

IAmTheTouch

Therapy said:

IAmTheTouch said:



some poodle shit is white...


OK, human shit is brown?


what if you eat a lot of sesame?

(hey, i'm just giving it a fair shake!)
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Reply #27 posted 05/12/04 4:27pm

doctormcmeekle

Therapy said:

IAmTheTouch said:



some poodle shit is white...


OK, human shit is brown?

My daughter did a green shit the other day. confused

Must stop feeding her grass. hmmm
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Reply #28 posted 05/12/04 4:28pm

Therapy

IAmTheTouch said:

Therapy said:



OK, human shit is brown?


what if you eat a lot of sesame?

(hey, i'm just giving it a fair shake!)


lol Or what if real watered down squitts is in action? That's more beige eh?

I tell you what is undisputed - if you're looking at this, it's undisputed you were born!!
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Reply #29 posted 05/12/04 4:29pm

Therapy

doctormcmeekle said:

Therapy said:



OK, human shit is brown?

My daughter did a green shit the other day. confused

Must stop feeding her grass. hmmm


And you being a doctor an' all disbelief

It's undisputed that you're a doctor...
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