Muse2NOPharaoh said:

If that blame comes with some kind of punishment, I accept!

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Look out my brother from another mother I know how to find you too~!

Muse2NOPharaoh said:

Come find me Sugartits

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

SCORE 10


.. and you know I am not about that... but none the less!




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[This message was edited Mon May 3 17:33:07 2004 by Muse2NOPharaoh]

JasmineFire said:

My thoughts exactly

Er...ok....Im a bit speechless. That's pretty deep. Obviously I don't agree with it, even if two married people agree to cheat, it's still cheating. I like to think vows count for something. That's just my own opinion.

Being honest and upfront, communicating about one's desires and actions to a partner and going ahead with mutual agreement, is the opposite of cheating, imho.

Nep2nes said:

it's all about writing your own vows...

I vow to put the toilet seat down.

I vow not to ask if my ass looks fat in this.

tackam said:

You better be pretty damn sure about getting the right answer if you bring something like that up.Not exactly the usual kind of request.

AzureStarr said:

i pretty much stopped reading right there... ...

Nep2nes said:

hate to say it but vows don't mean mush nowdays. I think they should, cuz i mysel'd like to see my future wife faithful to me as i'm to her

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Well I'll be a monkey's uncle! I didn't know I was going to get all of THIS when I clicked on this thread
!!!

Oh well, even if the topic is rather uncharted territory for me discussion wise, I still somehow feel as if I'm learning something by opening myself up to new points of view about things!

I guess I've seen "Unfaithful", "Damaged", and "Boogie Nights" so many times, I could never realize that yes, some folks really are comfortable with open relationships and such. Day-UM, I guess I'm just provencial! Dont know nothin' about nothin' in comaprison to some of orgers and I'm heading towards the mid- 30's!

Nep2nes said:

I know. I'm still in that place too. currently I'm not even married, but engaged, and I admit that I do have a problem with ALOT my fiance's friends fawning all over me when they first meet me; it's so odd for me because there are times when I don't find myself particularly thrilling, so I never quite get what all the fuss is about. That being said, no matter how cute, how charming (or forgive me, how rich) any of those suckers are, I can't even remotely THINk about going there because I really feel as if I'm "promised" to my love, period. Then add that to how many times I've seen "Unfaithful" and "Damaged" and yes, Boogie Nights (remember the party scene where William H. Macy gets tired of seeing his wife fuck guys in public and in sheer deparation he shoots her, then puts the gun in his mouth blows his own head off next?). I look at those movies and feel like, "Oh no! Can't go there " It always seemed to me that once one opened up their relationship up to affairs of any kind, they would almost always be setting the stage for someone to either get hurt, or mistakenly fall in love, and then the whole thing just becomes a tragic mess. But then maybe that's just me, thinking too much like a drama queen and all..but it works for me, though- lol!


I guess at the end of the day, we might all just have to come to a "to each his own" kind of scenario with this one, it all sounds just so damned complicated!

ReeseStrongnight said:

the sad thing is, that secnario isn't that far fetched. all men have a breaking point and no man really wants to be with some who is promiscious.
[This message was edited Thu May 13 17:31:51 2004 by mrsbkw]

ReeseStrongnight said:

It is That's why for me the more open the relationship the less I love that person. If I'm insane over someone I don't wanna share or be shared. Others are OK with it tho.

Az, do you know if this person ever went through with it????

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

i can't bear to share my bkw! he's mine, bitches! hands off!

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

They did. Without saying too much, they hooked up with another couple who have been swinging for years and hearing from her that night she was nervous. Hearing from her the next day she was in tears.

She is struggling with trying to get thoughts out of her mind when her and her husband have sex now. She's worried about how she "stacks up" against the other girl while in the bedroom.

AzureStarr said:

that's a damn shame. a damn, damn shame. people...

and the drama never stops ...

I guess it's the high entertainment value of this place that just keeps me coming back for more...

i think you are a very strong woman, and confident enough in herself to say 'go ahead, judge me...i don't care'. but i do go along with everyone else...your business is your business...i don't look at you ANY differently after reading your post and anyone who might is a hypocrite. we all have our 'skeletons' and 'the orger' you have been speaking with is naive if she thinks we would look at you as a lesser or deceiving person because of an aspect of your private life. i don't lay all my business on the org...i don't feel its necessary. this is for entertainment purposes...there are people on the org who were my friends prior to my first post and there are a few people i have met online and have become friends with that may know more about me then others but that is MY CHOICE to share. Azure...you keep on keeping on. do your thing.

EllisDee said:

I bet you did.

AzureStarr said:

That sucks.

I think jealousy is something that we are too sensitive to in our culture. We have no clue how to handle it.Maybe she can allow herself tp feel what she's feeling and move past it. Maybe not. I don't know.

At the same time, watching somebody that you're intimate with have sex with another person requires you to be incredibly secure, not only to feel confident that you're still important to your partner, but also to break all of the Rules that tell you you're supposed to feel awful after your partner has sex with somebody else.

In any case, seems like she should tell her husband how she's feeling and ask for some reassurance. He'll still think she's awesome for being willing to try swinging (what a cool wife, right?), and who knows, maybe he's dealing with similar feelings. Communication. . .

lillith said:

Nice to see you lillith! And, thank you...

AzureStarr said:

Wada u no...

tackam said:

It does suck.

She has told her husband how she feels and he's told her that she is the one that he wants and he only loves her. He wasn't the one who wanted to do this... she had brought it up to him and he agreed to try it, so now she's beating herself up for even asking to do such a thing.

She's feeling so poorly about the whole thing that when he tries to touch her she backs away because she can't get the image out of her head and the thought that he "liked the other girl better".

She's also feeling like now that they've done this, the spark is back in their sex life... from his end. Whereas before this the spark was gone. And, she's thinking it was because of the other woman.

*sigh* I don't know...

AzureStarr said:

Aw. . .

He sounds like a sweet guy. Hopefully she'll sort things out in time. I know it's not an easy thing.