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Reply #30 posted 03/03/04 12:36pm

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Dating does suck..

But I never really dated.

When I have hooked up with someone we usually hit it off immediately. I put my self out there, express what I am, and if it works fine, if not ok. It was fun.

I have a pretty nice boyfriend.. Except he is so jealous. But I don't let that stop me from enjoying my friends, and my life.
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Reply #31 posted 03/03/04 1:12pm

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TheOrgerFormerlyKnownAs said:

EvilWhiteMale said:

I mean, why can't two people just fuck each other's brains out without all the drama?

Sheesh!
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Reply #32 posted 03/03/04 1:15pm

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CarrieMpls said:

EvilWhiteMale said:

I mean, why can't two people just fuck each other's brains out without all the drama?

Sheesh!


They can, just not long term. That kind of relationship has a shelf life of no more than 2 monhts. Eventually one of them wants it to be more than fucking and that's where the drama starts.



Yeah, but there are always exceptions to the rule. I've been in casual relationships that have gone on longer than 2 months, and they were fine. Sometimes they end when one person finds someone else to get serious with, but that's fine too. Usually this works with older women. Younger ones tend to get attached much more. I just can't deal with drama and attitudes. It's not necessary.
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Reply #33 posted 03/03/04 1:24pm

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EvilWhiteMale said:

CarrieMpls said:



They can, just not long term. That kind of relationship has a shelf life of no more than 2 monhts. Eventually one of them wants it to be more than fucking and that's where the drama starts.



Yeah, but there are always exceptions to the rule. I've been in casual relationships that have gone on longer than 2 months, and they were fine. Sometimes they end when one person finds someone else to get serious with, but that's fine too. Usually this works with older women. Younger ones tend to get attached much more. I just can't deal with drama and attitudes. It's not necessary.


Gee you get around a lot huh... old women, Young women.. next you'll be posting about your "relationships" with a cat.. at least there would be no drama in that huh??
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Reply #34 posted 03/03/04 1:27pm

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BabyCakes said:


Gee you get around a lot huh... old women, Young women.. next you'll be posting about your "relationships" with a cat.. at least there would be no drama in that huh??



That's for damn sure, though I don't need to resort to beastiality. That's not the kind of pussy I'm into.
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Reply #35 posted 03/03/04 1:28pm

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EvilWhiteMale said:

BabyCakes said:


Gee you get around a lot huh... old women, Young women.. next you'll be posting about your "relationships" with a cat.. at least there would be no drama in that huh??



That's for damn sure, though I don't need to resort to beastiality. That's not the kind of pussy I'm into.


Okay..enjoy
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Reply #36 posted 03/03/04 1:29pm

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BabyCakes said:

EvilWhiteMale said:




That's for damn sure, though I don't need to resort to beastiality. That's not the kind of pussy I'm into.


Okay..enjoy



Thank you, I certainly will.
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Reply #37 posted 03/03/04 1:30pm

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EvilWhiteMale said:

I mean, why can't two people just fuck each other's brains out without all the drama?

Sheesh!

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Reply #38 posted 03/03/04 1:39pm

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Well, I've been divorced for a year now, and I absolutely hate being single! I was with my wife for 8 years (dated for 3, married for 5) and I never intended to be in the single scene again.

It sucks because so many guys fuck women over that they no longer can trust anyone. So many women think that me treating them with kindness and respect is some sort of ploy, and they end it because its "too good to be true". I've had female friends tell me that I'm too nice, and that I should be a little bit mean. I just can't do that though, its not in my makeup. I hate when people play games with me, so I refuse to do it to others.
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Reply #39 posted 03/03/04 1:42pm

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JediMaster said:

Well, I've been divorced for a year now, and I absolutely hate being single! I was with my wife for 8 years (dated for 3, married for 5) and I never intended to be in the single scene again.

It sucks because so many guys fuck women over that they no longer can trust anyone. So many women think that me treating them with kindness and respect is some sort of ploy, and they end it because its "too good to be true". I've had female friends tell me that I'm too nice, and that I should be a little bit mean. I just can't do that though, its not in my makeup. I hate when people play games with me, so I refuse to do it to others.


Dont' be mean Jedi.. And dont play with women's emotions... Your beyond that!!! The right lady will come along soon enough!
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Reply #40 posted 03/03/04 2:03pm

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JediMaster said:

Well, I've been divorced for a year now, and I absolutely hate being single! I was with my wife for 8 years (dated for 3, married for 5) and I never intended to be in the single scene again.

It sucks because so many guys fuck women over that they no longer can trust anyone. So many women think that me treating them with kindness and respect is some sort of ploy, and they end it because its "too good to be true". I've had female friends tell me that I'm too nice, and that I should be a little bit mean. I just can't do that though, its not in my makeup. I hate when people play games with me, so I refuse to do it to others.



It works both ways. A lot of guys are jaded and frustrated cuz a lot of women are really fucked up, and they wind up messing with the guy's mind. Women fuck guys over all the time.
"You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "

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Reply #41 posted 03/03/04 3:54pm

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JediMaster said:

Well, I've been divorced for a year now, and I absolutely hate being single! I was with my wife for 8 years (dated for 3, married for 5) and I never intended to be in the single scene again.

It sucks because so many guys fuck women over that they no longer can trust anyone. So many women think that me treating them with kindness and respect is some sort of ploy, and they end it because its "too good to be true". I've had female friends tell me that I'm too nice, and that I should be a little bit mean. I just can't do that though, its not in my makeup. I hate when people play games with me, so I refuse to do it to others.

Use the Jedi mind trick, and you'll have it your way! thumbs up!
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Reply #42 posted 03/03/04 5:32pm

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Being single can be great: you're only responsible for taking care of your own needs (or those of your children, if you have them), and you're able to do what you want to do without taking someone else's desires into account.

Dating and/or being single can be really tough. I've had a hard time finding someone to be serious with. I'll go on a few dates with someone, and it's obvious from the beginning that one of us is either more interested than the other, or that we're not as compatible as we thought we were. sigh

I've tried not being so "picky", thinking maybe I was being too judgmental or demanding--but then that "spark" just isn't there if I'm not physically or intellectually stimulated by that person (and the intellectual/mental/spiritual is just as important as the physical, if not moreso!). I've also admitted to myself that I would have more guys to select from if I lost some weight and did some physical self-improvement to make myself more "marketable", but then I get frustrated that something so superficial should matter.....

I've always prided myself on my independence, and have loved traveling, discovering other cities/countries, making friends and experiencing so much! But now I'm at the age where people are starting wonder, and I"m feeling awkward about not being with someone or having children. When I was younger, whenever I was down I used to reassure myself that I had lots of time to find the right guy. But now it's time to settle down, and I look around and it seems the good ones are taken. sad

Add: Oh--and as far as your question as to WHY it's so difficult to find someone. I have no idea!! If I knew, I'd be with someone! wink Seriously, though, I've found that there are a lot of people out there who aren't very smart, or they're self-centered, or have some kind of alcohol/drug problem, or have bad "boundaries" (they tell you everything and more than you need to know on the first date--I need honesty, but I don't need to know every horrible thing you ever did on our first date, lol), or they don't have much passion for anything. Or--I'm just not attracted to them.
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Reply #43 posted 03/03/04 5:48pm

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BabyCakes said:

JediMaster said:

Well, I've been divorced for a year now, and I absolutely hate being single! I was with my wife for 8 years (dated for 3, married for 5) and I never intended to be in the single scene again.

It sucks because so many guys fuck women over that they no longer can trust anyone. So many women think that me treating them with kindness and respect is some sort of ploy, and they end it because its "too good to be true". I've had female friends tell me that I'm too nice, and that I should be a little bit mean. I just can't do that though, its not in my makeup. I hate when people play games with me, so I refuse to do it to others.


Dont' be mean Jedi.. And dont play with women's emotions... Your beyond that!!! The right lady will come along soon enough!


Babycakes, you are giving this man the wrong advice...being the nice guy will never get you laid, LOL. However, you may find someone who likes you 4 you, but she probably won't be the woman you want to be with. Woman play a lot of games nowadays. I use to have that corny fairy tale of walking into a store and I see this gorgeous female and she is staring me down as well..and we exchange numbers, go out and fall in love....NOT! That shyt is dead man..I have given up on love, I just enjoy life and meet wonderful women with no expectations.have my fun and if we fall for each other, great, but no longer will my heart get involved. I stay by myself and make good money and have no headaches stressing over a woman..but if your a nice guy by nature, that is your makeup and it is hard to change that. I am this way because of my life experiences and I am a better man because of this..I'm stronger (mentally) and can deal with dissapointments easier now.
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Reply #44 posted 03/03/04 6:11pm

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BabyCakes said:



Dont' be mean Jedi.. And dont play with women's emotions... Your beyond that!!! The right lady will come along soon enough!


Babycakes, you are giving this man the wrong advice...being the nice guy will never get you laid, LOL. However, you may find someone who likes you 4 you, but she probably won't be the woman you want to be with. Woman play a lot of games nowadays. I use to have that corny fairy tale of walking into a store and I see this gorgeous female and she is staring me down as well..and we exchange numbers, go out and fall in love....NOT! That shyt is dead man..I have given up on love, I just enjoy life and meet wonderful women with no expectations.have my fun and if we fall for each other, great, but no longer will my heart get involved. I stay by myself and make good money and have no headaches stressing over a woman..but if your a nice guy by nature, that is your makeup and it is hard to change that. I am this way because of my life experiences and I am a better man because of this..I'm stronger (mentally) and can deal with dissapointments easier now.



Oh, when I said meet women with no expectations...I didn't mean women who didn't want anything in life, I meant as far as the relationship goes...no expectations, just go with the flow..like a new Prince album, LOL. Get it?
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Reply #45 posted 03/04/04 2:36am

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EvilWhiteMale said:

Dating is fun as long as both people are on the same page. When one person wants a relationship and another one doesn't, it sucks.


I hear you big time..

Me and my girl just went our seperate ways cause she wanted more time with me than I could offer.

I guess she wanted a "relationship" and I just wanted to hang out, talk, fuck and what not and then get on with the rest of my life.

The "relationship" part sucks for me cause there'll be all these expectations, restraints and.... well, ya'll know the drill.

So I'd rather just fuck around - preferably with the same girl - but if that's not possible I guess that's just the way it is wink
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Reply #46 posted 03/04/04 8:40am

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BabyCakes said:

JediMaster said:

Well, I've been divorced for a year now, and I absolutely hate being single! I was with my wife for 8 years (dated for 3, married for 5) and I never intended to be in the single scene again.

It sucks because so many guys fuck women over that they no longer can trust anyone. So many women think that me treating them with kindness and respect is some sort of ploy, and they end it because its "too good to be true". I've had female friends tell me that I'm too nice, and that I should be a little bit mean. I just can't do that though, its not in my makeup. I hate when people play games with me, so I refuse to do it to others.


Dont' be mean Jedi.. And dont play with women's emotions... Your beyond that!!! The right lady will come along soon enough!


Like I said, I just don't think I could be mean, even if I wanted to. I really hate when people lead me on or play with my emotions, so I sure as hell don't want to do it to someone else. I think sometimes people think you're weak if you don't play the games, when in reality its the complete opposite.
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Reply #47 posted 03/04/04 8:41am

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Adisa said:

JediMaster said:

Well, I've been divorced for a year now, and I absolutely hate being single! I was with my wife for 8 years (dated for 3, married for 5) and I never intended to be in the single scene again.

It sucks because so many guys fuck women over that they no longer can trust anyone. So many women think that me treating them with kindness and respect is some sort of ploy, and they end it because its "too good to be true". I've had female friends tell me that I'm too nice, and that I should be a little bit mean. I just can't do that though, its not in my makeup. I hate when people play games with me, so I refuse to do it to others.

Use the Jedi mind trick, and you'll have it your way! thumbs up!


That only works on the weak-minded. I want a woman with a brain.
jedi

Do not hurry yourself in your spirit to become offended, for the taking of offense is what rests in the bosom of the stupid ones. (Ecclesiastes 7:9)
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Reply #48 posted 03/04/04 8:43am

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EvilWhiteMale said:

JediMaster said:

Well, I've been divorced for a year now, and I absolutely hate being single! I was with my wife for 8 years (dated for 3, married for 5) and I never intended to be in the single scene again.

It sucks because so many guys fuck women over that they no longer can trust anyone. So many women think that me treating them with kindness and respect is some sort of ploy, and they end it because its "too good to be true". I've had female friends tell me that I'm too nice, and that I should be a little bit mean. I just can't do that though, its not in my makeup. I hate when people play games with me, so I refuse to do it to others.



It works both ways. A lot of guys are jaded and frustrated cuz a lot of women are really fucked up, and they wind up messing with the guy's mind. Women fuck guys over all the time.


Indeed it does work both ways. I'm afraid I'm becoming jaded myself. You can only get screwed over so many times before you start to wonder what the hell is wrong with either yourself, or the people you're dating.
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Do not hurry yourself in your spirit to become offended, for the taking of offense is what rests in the bosom of the stupid ones. (Ecclesiastes 7:9)
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Reply #49 posted 03/04/04 8:51am

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JediMaster said:

BabyCakes said:



Dont' be mean Jedi.. And dont play with women's emotions... Your beyond that!!! The right lady will come along soon enough!


Like I said, I just don't think I could be mean, even if I wanted to. I really hate when people lead me on or play with my emotions, so I sure as hell don't want to do it to someone else. I think sometimes people think you're weak if you don't play the games, when in reality its the complete opposite.


I know you have more morals that playing with women.. and I know you will do the right thing... hug I hope you find someone that has everything your looking for! wink
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Reply #50 posted 03/04/04 9:23am

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JediMaster said:

Indeed it does work both ways. I'm afraid I'm becoming jaded myself. You can only get screwed over so many times before you start to wonder what the hell is wrong with either yourself, or the people you're dating.



I think I'll wind up marrying someone from another country. Someone with a different mindset.
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Reply #51 posted 03/04/04 9:28am

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EvilWhiteMale said:

I think I'll wind up marrying someone from another country. Someone with a different mindset.


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Reply #52 posted 03/04/04 9:39am

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EvilWhiteMale said:

JediMaster said:

Indeed it does work both ways. I'm afraid I'm becoming jaded myself. You can only get screwed over so many times before you start to wonder what the hell is wrong with either yourself, or the people you're dating.



I think I'll wind up marrying someone from another country. Someone with a different mindset.
I'm sorry you feel that way, Evil as there are many wonderful women her in the states. We all don't have a fucked up mindset.
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Reply #53 posted 03/04/04 9:39am

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EvilWhiteMale said:

I think I'll wind up marrying someone from another country. Someone with a different mindset.


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Reply #54 posted 03/04/04 10:07am

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Yes, it is difficult, even when you're a Christian trying to adhere to church doctrine/expectations and to be respectful of women and not dog 'em. A lot of games get played, even by church women. I mean, a lot of sisters have made bad decisions in the past with dudes who didn't care about them.

When I was in college and getting passed over for the "bad, dangerous" type (but still being the friend that got the brokenhearted phone calls), it was bad enough. Now, a decade or so later, I've seen a steady stream of sisters walking in the consequences of those decisions. Chief among those consequences is a strong distrust of men, Christian or not. None of which is to suggest that I'm perfect. lol

It just seems consistently difficult to befriend, date and love desirable, quality women who also love the Lord. But, hey, the Bible says all things work for the good of those who love the Lord and are called according to His purpose. I just gotta believe it'll work out one day. I just hope I'm not 45 by the time it does... lol
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Reply #55 posted 03/05/04 3:40am

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Cloudbuster said:



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Reply #56 posted 03/05/04 3:58am

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CokeJohnson said:

EvilWhiteMale said:

Dating is fun as long as both people are on the same page. When one person wants a relationship and another one doesn't, it sucks.


I hear you big time..

Me and my girl just went our seperate ways cause she wanted more time with me than I could offer.

I guess she wanted a "relationship" and I just wanted to hang out, talk, fuck and what not and then get on with the rest of my life.

The "relationship" part sucks for me cause there'll be all these expectations, restraints and.... well, ya'll know the drill.

So I'd rather just fuck around - preferably with the same girl - but if that's not possible I guess that's just the way it is wink


That's selfish, sweetie. But.....very manish. We women are always warned about that. Love, companionship, but with no accountability or responsibility.
I was the female on that end and I'm very bitter abou tit. Maybe because two years later, I could have been somewhere else doing something else dealing with someone else who could handle it....I'm not bitter though ; )

We seal our fate with the decisions we make; )
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Reply #57 posted 03/05/04 5:01am

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KatSkrizzle said:

CokeJohnson said:


Me and my girl just went our seperate ways cause she wanted more time with me than I could offer.

I guess she wanted a "relationship" and I just wanted to hang out, talk, fuck and what not and then get on with the rest of my life.

The "relationship" part sucks for me cause there'll be all these expectations, restraints and.... well, ya'll know the drill.

So I'd rather just fuck around - preferably with the same girl - but if that's not possible I guess that's just the way it is wink


That's selfish, sweetie. But.....very manish. We women are always warned about that. Love, companionship, but with no accountability or responsibility.
I was the female on that end and I'm very bitter abou tit. Maybe because two years later, I could have been somewhere else doing something else dealing with someone else who could handle it....I'm not bitter though ; )


well... everybody's selfish really when you look at it. She is selfish to for wanting more time
with me than I can possibly offer.

It's all about expectations: she expects more of me than I expect of her; so the equation is not right, we are not compatible at this particular stage of our lifes.

Good to hear that you're not bitter cause it's really not worth it. How unromantic this may sound, relationships are basically a give and take situation: you need to get approximately what you give for it to work.

So I'm in a relationship for what she can give me and vice versa; we are both "selfish" to stay in your terminology...

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Reply #58 posted 03/05/04 5:43am

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I mean, why can't two people just fuck each other's brains out without all the drama?

Sheesh!



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Reply #59 posted 03/05/04 6:20am

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interesting thread

dating does suck, what could be more awkward unless you find someone you truly click with. we should just legalize prostitution and separate the 'sex and relationship' people from the 'only wanna have sex' people. less confusion, deception and drama in the long run
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