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Thread started 02/06/04 4:42pm

PEJ

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He was calm, cool, and disrespected... and now he's gone too?

Considering the circumstances rd held himself together the most in the last few days!!! A simple sign of disbelief showed us what he felt towards something none of us ever imagined in a site revolving around Prince, racism!

Chaotic cyber drama was in effect dragging his name through the mud but yet he still had enough goodness in his heart to stay happy and laugh things off. lol falloff


Without me even knowing why he's been deactivated I say this much... The org just lost one of it's sweetest most flavorful members.


He was straight up and although very opinionated he didn't beat around the bush which I think offended those he didn't agree with.


He could write a masterpiece of a thread when it came to his inner thoughts and beliefs be it P related or whatever... along the way some guy with a major inferiority complex had to piss on everybodys parade which in turn got himself banned...


at least now that rd's gone one person is very happy and probably satisfied as he lurks on... to whomever still puts the fuel in ice's fire I hope your happy too... now gone are rd, ctheuncanny, MD7, Bliss, Nu, Essence and the list goes on and on... remember the EXODUS... it caused this place to be a ghost town ...


all we had then was ice9 trying to embrace whomever he could even the ones he'd clown months before...(me being one of them) Sorry that I have to say all of this because I never expected any of this when I came here but the truth hurts!!!

















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Reply #1 posted 02/06/04 4:46pm

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nod
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Reply #2 posted 02/06/04 5:00pm

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[Snip. --Matt]
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Reply #3 posted 02/06/04 5:18pm

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[Snip. --Matt]

rolleyes

what a cruel game you're playing. disbelief
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Reply #4 posted 02/06/04 5:43pm

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disbelief NOW WHAT? disbelief
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Reply #5 posted 02/06/04 5:44pm

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Paisley said:

disbelief NOW WHAT? disbelief




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Reply #6 posted 02/06/04 5:44pm

Heavenly

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disbelief NOW WHAT? disbelief

Now we go down t the shelters and hide until the bad people leave us alone. boxed
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Reply #7 posted 02/06/04 5:50pm

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Reply #8 posted 02/06/04 6:14pm

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Pej, I have said that all these people should be let back to at least deal with this. But with all due respect I personally have seen tactics, that while honest, definitely were baiting and flaming including pretty much calling other black members Uncle Toms for not agreeing with issues he had with other members. He used to say that about Stymie all the time.

The issue of how he used offensive gay stereotypes in dealing with Chris Borgman is something that people are missing in all this. Personally people have alluded to gay bashing me and I didn't report them. I'm not the sensitive type when it comes to that kind of stuff, unless it's for real. However if someone is sensitive about it, shouldn't it be respected?

Chris asked him, without reporting him, to delete his stereotypical comments and it just went on and on and on. Imagine for one second that Chris started using black stereotypes in dealing with his personal conflict with RDHull. Would they be tolerated, no. Not only would they not be tolerated but there would be a bandwaggon war over them.

I agree with you that he was one of the most colorful individuals this joint has ever had. And when he was joking around and having fun he was the best. But when he wasn't....I have always liked RD and would have hoped that he would be open to discussion in all this. Seems he flamed someone and that is what got him banned.

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Reply #9 posted 02/06/04 6:15pm

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What the fuck?

rd was deactivated?

Someone please fill me in.

This is FUCKED.
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Reply #10 posted 02/06/04 6:32pm

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More like your partner in crime.

I don't know if you realize this, but being offensive BECAUSE you're offended is not appropriate. I recognized it, Rd, for the most part, couldn't.


I say good riddance. Even though he tried in the end, he must have done something yet again to become deactivated. It actually surprises you that all those people are gone? Not me.
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Reply #11 posted 02/06/04 6:33pm

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part of me thinks i shouldn't say anything, but then there will be all kinds of people accusing me of secretly gloating and being happy about it.

and if i say how much i will miss him and that it is very dissapointing, people will accuse me of lying.

it's a no win situation.

so think what you will, but I am very sad to see him go, I didn't want him to. I knew he was on his last strike when we were in the middle of that huge silly drama, and i ignored a lot of his homophobic comments because i didn't want him banned. When he refused to take down some of the comments i found most offensive, i asked the mods to remove them but not ban him for it. i had hoped that would make the point to him.

i will miss him on the org, i liked his presence, and he did some really great, hysterical threads. i still don't consider him a homophobe, i know he isn't. i am sure he will read this, so for you, RD: hug please IM me on AOL?
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Reply #12 posted 02/06/04 6:38pm

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bkw said:

What the fuck?

rd was deactivated?

Someone please fill me in.

This is FUCKED.



This is SOOO FUCKED UP! CRAP it is all bloody CRAP.


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Reply #13 posted 02/06/04 6:41pm

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doh!

Aw, shit, now RD's gone too???


What the fuck, man!!!

I mean, really, just WHAT THE FUCK!!! pissed









































































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Reply #14 posted 02/06/04 6:45pm

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Did anybody read what I wrote? this issue is obviously being ignored by a lot of people. I certainly agree that he couldn't be blamed for going off that people were talking about dragging him from a truck and that kind of shit but he didn't say anything about that but made flames at another current member earlier today. Perhaps we all should be given free license to say whatever we want to but then again, this might become the Quaidbowl right?
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Reply #15 posted 02/06/04 6:53pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Did anybody read what I wrote? this issue is obviously being ignored by a lot of people. I certainly agree that he couldn't be blamed for going off that people were talking about dragging him from a truck and that kind of shit but he didn't say anything about that but made flames at another current member earlier today. Perhaps we all should be given free license to say whatever we want to but then again, this might become the Quaidbowl right?



I read what you wrote and agree with you for the most part.It's the hypocrisy of some of the moderation Im having a hard time swallowing.It seems that some were just waiting for RD to make a mistake, while others are allowed to run off at the mouth at anyone anytime...
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Reply #16 posted 02/06/04 6:56pm

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MrTation said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Did anybody read what I wrote? this issue is obviously being ignored by a lot of people. I certainly agree that he couldn't be blamed for going off that people were talking about dragging him from a truck and that kind of shit but he didn't say anything about that but made flames at another current member earlier today. Perhaps we all should be given free license to say whatever we want to but then again, this might become the Quaidbowl right?



I read what you wrote and agree with you for the most part.It's the hypocrisy of some of the moderation Im having a hard time swallowing.It seems that some were just waiting for RD to make a mistake, while others are allowed to run off at the mouth at anyone anytime...


What I will say is that this wasn't the right time to do it. Although he did make homophobic flames at another for saying they got along with someone RD didn't. There is a way to tackle this and flaming wasn't the way. I'm really torn, I don't think he should be banned but if everyone else has to adhere to the non-flaming issue, he should too. And the Quaidbowl isn't an excuse to start flaming others for simply saying they got along with someone... If that person said they agreed he should be dragged from the back of a truck I say flame the fuck away. But over something so trivial in the scope of things....

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Reply #17 posted 02/06/04 7:20pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Did anybody read what I wrote? this issue is obviously being ignored by a lot of people. I certainly agree that he couldn't be blamed for going off that people were talking about dragging him from a truck and that kind of shit but he didn't say anything about that but made flames at another current member earlier today. Perhaps we all should be given free license to say whatever we want to but then again, this might become the Quaidbowl right?



I read what you said. So is he banned or dectivated? Oh wait I'll bet he could care less considering the amount of unfairness and onesided boolshits been goin on here lately.
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Reply #18 posted 02/06/04 7:21pm

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irrelevant said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Did anybody read what I wrote? this issue is obviously being ignored by a lot of people. I certainly agree that he couldn't be blamed for going off that people were talking about dragging him from a truck and that kind of shit but he didn't say anything about that but made flames at another current member earlier today. Perhaps we all should be given free license to say whatever we want to but then again, this might become the Quaidbowl right?



I read what you said. So is he banned or dectivated? Oh wait I'll bet he could care less considering the amount of unfairness and onesided boolshits been goin on here lately.


Regardless of whether you care or not the issues still stand...
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Reply #19 posted 02/06/04 7:23pm

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gemini13 said:

More like your partner in crime.

I don't know if you realize this, but being offensive BECAUSE you're offended is not appropriate. I recognized it, Rd, for the most part, couldn't.


I say good riddance. Even though he tried in the end, he must have done something yet again to become deactivated. It actually surprises you that all those people are gone? Not me.




Who are you addressing this too?
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Reply #20 posted 02/06/04 7:25pm

PEJ

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bkw said:

What the fuck?

rd was deactivated?

Someone please fill me in.

This is FUCKED.




I dunno man? shrug
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Reply #21 posted 02/06/04 7:26pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Did anybody read what I wrote? this issue is obviously being ignored by a lot of people. I certainly agree that he couldn't be blamed for going off that people were talking about dragging him from a truck and that kind of shit but he didn't say anything about that but made flames at another current member earlier today. Perhaps we all should be given free license to say whatever we want to but then again, this might become the Quaidbowl right?

TheC got banned for going off (mildly imho) against Chemmie, but I guess that is another story.

I didnt see what rd said to get banned, although I understand it was for calling sosgemini a "sistah" or something. Is that right? It sounds like maybe inappropriate teasing based on his sexuality without being abusive or hateful. I'm not making excuses or anything, but it is not like it was abusive. Is it? (forgive this dumbass Aussie cos there could be more to the term than I'm aware of). I mean, abusive to the point of being banned for?
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Reply #22 posted 02/06/04 7:28pm

PEJ

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bkw said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Did anybody read what I wrote? this issue is obviously being ignored by a lot of people. I certainly agree that he couldn't be blamed for going off that people were talking about dragging him from a truck and that kind of shit but he didn't say anything about that but made flames at another current member earlier today. Perhaps we all should be given free license to say whatever we want to but then again, this might become the Quaidbowl right?

TheC got banned for going off (mildly imho) against Chemmie, but I guess that is another story.

I didnt see what rd said to get banned, although I understand it was for calling sosgemini a "sistah" or something. Is that right? It sounds like maybe inappropriate teasing based on his sexuality without being abusive or hateful. I'm not making excuses or anything, but it is not like it was abusive. Is it? (forgive this dumbass Aussie cos there could be more to the term than I'm aware of). I mean, abusive to the point of being banned for?





it seems a few heads have gone to all extremes to out him... just as was predicted... nod
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Reply #23 posted 02/06/04 7:29pm

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bkw said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Did anybody read what I wrote? this issue is obviously being ignored by a lot of people. I certainly agree that he couldn't be blamed for going off that people were talking about dragging him from a truck and that kind of shit but he didn't say anything about that but made flames at another current member earlier today. Perhaps we all should be given free license to say whatever we want to but then again, this might become the Quaidbowl right?

TheC got banned for going off (mildly imho) against Chemmie, but I guess that is another story.

I didnt see what rd said to get banned, although I understand it was for calling sosgemini a "sistah" or something. Is that right? It sounds like maybe inappropriate teasing based on his sexuality without being abusive or hateful. I'm not making excuses or anything, but it is not like it was abusive. Is it? (forgive this dumbass Aussie cos there could be more to the term than I'm aware of). I mean, abusive to the point of being banned for?


Perhaps SOS should address this. I agree "Sistah" doesn't seem like flame material. I think the timing was wrong. If Ben agreed he should be banned do you think it's likely it was simply because he said "sistah"...

We all need major clarification...
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Reply #24 posted 02/06/04 7:32pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

bkw said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Did anybody read what I wrote? this issue is obviously being ignored by a lot of people. I certainly agree that he couldn't be blamed for going off that people were talking about dragging him from a truck and that kind of shit but he didn't say anything about that but made flames at another current member earlier today. Perhaps we all should be given free license to say whatever we want to but then again, this might become the Quaidbowl right?

TheC got banned for going off (mildly imho) against Chemmie, but I guess that is another story.

I didnt see what rd said to get banned, although I understand it was for calling sosgemini a "sistah" or something. Is that right? It sounds like maybe inappropriate teasing based on his sexuality without being abusive or hateful. I'm not making excuses or anything, but it is not like it was abusive. Is it? (forgive this dumbass Aussie cos there could be more to the term than I'm aware of). I mean, abusive to the point of being banned for?


Perhaps SOS should address this. I agree "Sistah" doesn't seem like flame material. I think the timing was wrong. If Ben agreed he should be banned do you think it's likely it was simply because he said "sistah"...

We all need major clarification...






regardless of it all and yes I read your posts supa I think this joint is exactly what housequake.com calls us "whiners" they say the org used to be cool but now just a buch of whiners... I hated seeing that on their site a while back but god they must know sumfin...
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Reply #25 posted 02/06/04 7:35pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

bkw said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Did anybody read what I wrote? this issue is obviously being ignored by a lot of people. I certainly agree that he couldn't be blamed for going off that people were talking about dragging him from a truck and that kind of shit but he didn't say anything about that but made flames at another current member earlier today. Perhaps we all should be given free license to say whatever we want to but then again, this might become the Quaidbowl right?

TheC got banned for going off (mildly imho) against Chemmie, but I guess that is another story.

I didnt see what rd said to get banned, although I understand it was for calling sosgemini a "sistah" or something. Is that right? It sounds like maybe inappropriate teasing based on his sexuality without being abusive or hateful. I'm not making excuses or anything, but it is not like it was abusive. Is it? (forgive this dumbass Aussie cos there could be more to the term than I'm aware of). I mean, abusive to the point of being banned for?


Perhaps SOS should address this. I agree "Sistah" doesn't seem like flame material. I think the timing was wrong. If Ben agreed he should be banned do you think it's likely it was simply because he said "sistah"...

We all need major clarification...

No, I think it was that along with the "feud" with him and cborg. That started it out and the sistah remark ended it.

I think the timing was very bad indeed.
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Reply #26 posted 02/06/04 7:35pm

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PEJ said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

bkw said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Did anybody read what I wrote? this issue is obviously being ignored by a lot of people. I certainly agree that he couldn't be blamed for going off that people were talking about dragging him from a truck and that kind of shit but he didn't say anything about that but made flames at another current member earlier today. Perhaps we all should be given free license to say whatever we want to but then again, this might become the Quaidbowl right?

TheC got banned for going off (mildly imho) against Chemmie, but I guess that is another story.

I didnt see what rd said to get banned, although I understand it was for calling sosgemini a "sistah" or something. Is that right? It sounds like maybe inappropriate teasing based on his sexuality without being abusive or hateful. I'm not making excuses or anything, but it is not like it was abusive. Is it? (forgive this dumbass Aussie cos there could be more to the term than I'm aware of). I mean, abusive to the point of being banned for?


Perhaps SOS should address this. I agree "Sistah" doesn't seem like flame material. I think the timing was wrong. If Ben agreed he should be banned do you think it's likely it was simply because he said "sistah"...

We all need major clarification...



regardless of it all and yes I read your posts supa I think this joint is exactly what housequake.com calls us "whiners" they say the org used to be cool but now just a buch of whiners... I hated seeing that on their site a while back but god they must know sumfin...


There does come a point where things are abused. I personally can handle a lot of shit before someone begins to piss me off. Some can't. There are rules.

Now I'm sounding like a Patrician nun! shake
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Reply #27 posted 02/07/04 2:59am

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I did see everything that went on here as far as what
you are saying Supa and I could be completely
wrong of my perception in the way things happened but I have never
experienced out of the year and a half I have been here RD
out and out disrespecting someone unless he felt disrespected
first. I have a lot of respect for RD for his strong views
and ability to express his opinion no matter how others
may come at him. He has made me see a side of certain subjects
that I may not have seen before and has made me laugh
on many occasions for that I appreciate him! With that said, he and many of the others
that have been banned over the last week will be missed
for their words and insight.
We all perceive words that are typed differently as you never
know the tone in which someone is saying something. I think
that before reaction is so quickly taken we all need to take
that into account and if you feel someone is offending you
take it to them first for clarification instead of being so
quick to react and blowing a situation out to extents not
necessary.
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Reply #28 posted 02/07/04 3:26am

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I didn't agree with everything he said, but at least he always had the guts to say it to people's faces.

This place has gotten weird.
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Reply #29 posted 02/07/04 3:31am

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BinaryJustin said:

I didn't agree with everything he said, but at least he always had the guts to say it to people's faces.

This place has gotten weird.

nod If we agreed on everything someone said life would be
so dull.
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