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Thread started 12/27/03 8:24pm

gemini13

I need some opinions!!!!

OK...I live in a decent apartment complex, in a pretty affluent town. My next door neighbor and his girlfriend fight with each other daily.

Tonight, about four hours ago, they started again. Slamming doors, getting in their car and screeching away, then coming back to fight some more. This guy is the ultimate asshole, and he treats this girl so badly. He's a white kid who wears the Mr. T starter kit, has different girls coming over all the time. He looks like Vanilla Ice to me (fucking DORK!) I have asked her a few times why she bothers with this loser. She comes back every time!

After a couple hours of hearing them shout at each other, I get a knock on my door. It's the girlfriend. As I open the door, she points down at the ground, and says she's sorry. There, on the ground, is my $45 ceramic frog broken into pieces. It's really my husband's, he LOVES frogs, and we've been looking for another that is the same, and can't find one. I ask her how it got broken, and she says that he was throwing her stuff at her outside, and he hit the frog with the stuff. I ask her why they fight like this, and she starts crying, saying I don't know. She looked like a wounded bird.

Don't know what to tell you, but I fucking BLEW MY STACK. I can't stand that this little big man thinks he can treat women like this, and she's crouched down on the ground crying. He comes storming out, and here was our conversation:

Me: "What the fuck, dude?"
Him: "I'm sorry, it was an accident."
Me: "BULLSHIT! What you're doing to her is NO ACCIDENT!"
Him: In two seconds, his attitude changes "What the fuck, bitch, I said I was sorry, it's just a six dollar frog"
Me: VERY LOUD AT THIS POINT "I DON'T GIVE A FUCK HOW MUCH IT COSTS, THAT'S NOT THE POINT YOU FUCKING PRICK!"
Him: "FUCK YOU, SHUT UP"

I am now SO FUCKING PISSED OFF and I don't know what to do. I want revenge on this piece of shit. Just for the principle of the frog being broken. You don't break other people's things just because you can't control yourself, right??? Am I missing something here people!? I know for a fact that he sells drugs. I want to turn him in out of spite, and laugh at him while he gets taken away in handcuffs. What do I do??? Nothing? Should I just mind my own business, or would it be better off if I just get him evicted? I don't want to live next to this cretin, and I ain't movin'.
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Reply #1 posted 12/27/03 8:31pm

2the9s

You've talked to the girl already. Ask her if she knows what her options are. Give her some if she doesn't know. It sounds like she doesn't.

Don't confront/aggravate the boyfriend in any way. Your anger is irrelevant.

re: the ceramic frog. Have you tried ebay? smile
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Reply #2 posted 12/27/03 8:37pm

gemini13

I know, I've always had a problem with people. I get angry pretty easily. I ALWAYS want revenge. That's why I wrote here first. Thanks! I figure he'll slip up on his own loserness eventually.
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Reply #3 posted 12/27/03 8:39pm

AaronAlmighty

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damn, bitch, it's just a six dollar frog rolleyes
"oPS i HITTED THE CAPDLOCK"
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Reply #4 posted 12/27/03 8:40pm

Milty

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maybe you should turn him in if he is selling drugs. forget the frog, that's irrelevant really.
drugs are another thing. you could have some freaks over at the building, you ain't home, they break in and steal your shit just to get more drugs.
turn his silly ass in - just make sure you know for sure he is dealing.
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Reply #5 posted 12/27/03 8:43pm

gemini13

AaronAlmighty said:

damn, bitch, it's just a six dollar frog rolleyes



But, it's MY FROG!!! WAAA


No, really, I'm mad at WHY it got broken more than anything.
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Reply #6 posted 12/27/03 8:45pm

2the9s

I'm telling you, try ebay...
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Reply #7 posted 12/27/03 8:48pm

2the9s

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Reply #8 posted 12/27/03 8:49pm

AaronAlmighty

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sue his ass
"oPS i HITTED THE CAPDLOCK"
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Reply #9 posted 12/27/03 8:56pm

2the9s

There's more here:

http://www.funtocollect.c...frogs.html

Though some of them seem kind of silly.

One's a toaster! Haha!
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Reply #10 posted 12/27/03 8:56pm

AaronAlmighty

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2the9s said:

There's more here:

http://www.funtocollect.c...frogs.html

Though some of them seem kind of silly.

One's a toaster! Haha!




Albert, you're back! hug
"oPS i HITTED THE CAPDLOCK"
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Reply #11 posted 12/27/03 10:20pm

gemini13

2the9s said:

There's more here:

http://www.funtocollect.c...frogs.html

Though some of them seem kind of silly.

One's a toaster! Haha!



Those frogs are good, but they're sorta too cutesie for me.

My frog was this BIG, ugly, brown toad with bumpy skin and big yellow googly eyes. He was cool. (Yes, I realize I'm acting like a big baby). I'm glad the org is here, and I can write things out before I do something stupid. Yay for me! nuts
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Reply #12 posted 12/27/03 10:34pm

lovemachine

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You need to report this to your apartment manager and the police. You shouldn't have to deal with this crap.
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Reply #13 posted 12/28/03 12:00am

Janfriend

CALL THE PO-PO ON THEY ASS EVERY SINGLE TIME THEY FIGHT. TELL THE POLICE YOU CAN HEAR HER BEING SLAPPED AND MAKE A CITIZEN'S ARREST
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Reply #14 posted 12/28/03 2:55am

mcmeekle

2the9s said:

There's more here:

http://www.funtocollect.c...frogs.html

Though some of them seem kind of silly.

One's a toaster! Haha!

If you really like frogs try here:

www.frogsporn.com

I go there all the time. biggrin
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Reply #15 posted 12/28/03 3:00am

KAMILLE

2 words, "Drive by"
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Reply #16 posted 12/28/03 5:59am

daned

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The problem with wankers like that is that they can be far more spiteful, malicous and twisted than any of us. It's important that if you do do anything to him that he doesn't know you were involved. Escalation can be a horrible thing. So, no direct action. If you definitely have any dirt on him, give it to the police and the apartment manager.
"You know, you're the classic example of the inverse ratio between the size of the mouth and the size of the brain"
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Reply #17 posted 12/28/03 6:03am

Spookymuffin

Murder by Ice-Pick.
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Reply #18 posted 12/28/03 6:12am

endorphin74

I too would vote for NOT escalating things directly with this jerk. Domestic Violence is scary and deadly and you don't want you or your husband becoming the target of one of his future rages. Definately report fights as they occur to the apartment management and when appropriate the police. Just don't confront the guy directly. He laready knows you are upset. To continue this fight with him is asking for trouble.
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Reply #19 posted 12/28/03 7:52am

mrbungle

This guy sounds like a fucking prick and he probably deserves to get a serious ass kicking. Here is the problem, do you want to deal with looking over your shoulder if you took out some sort of revenge. It's probably better to avoid that person and completely ignore him. He will get what he deserves sooner or later, they always do.

You reap what you sew and with this case this guy is going to get a lot of reaping. That alone should hopefully comfort you.

Ceramic frogs are in the pleanty out here in Southern California. Shit you can get cermanic frogs on surf boards out here. If you really want another frog I will buy you one for the one that was broken and another one so it's not lonely.

Domestic Violence: Something does need to be done about this especially if he hits her.
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Reply #20 posted 12/28/03 8:00am

theVelvetRoper

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If not for spite, then you should definitely turn him in for your own safety. Why should you have to live next to a drug dealer? What happens if something really goes wrong? Do you want those kinds of people hanging around literally outside of your door. It's not fair, and you shouldn't put up with it.

Besides, he's an ignorant asshole. Screw him.
'Cause your friends don't dance, and if they don't dance... well, they're no friends of mine.
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Reply #21 posted 12/28/03 8:06am

mrbungle

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Reply #22 posted 12/28/03 8:51am

Lammastide

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If Vanilla Ice knows you're involved in getting him in trouble, it'll spell trouble for you, so I agree you need to be sly. Unfortunately, though, tenant law is largely based on precedented behavior and neighbor interaction -- so if you're trying to stick it to him legally, you've got to strike a balance between not provoking him and simultaneously having his pattern of making the apartment's living environment unliveable recorded.

Regarding the frog, maybe simply write a letter to your landlord requesting some reimbusement of price. Explain to him that 1) you have spoken to your neighbor about the issue, and 2) you don't feel productive or even particularly safe in dealing with him directly anymore -- he did, after all, call you a "bitch." Money, of course, ain't your point, but you better believe it WILL be the landlord's point -- and he'll do what he needs to do to preserve the profitibility of his business. Though landlords can't be held accountable for much tenant activity, they have some responsibility of ensuring an environment of reasonable safety for tenants and, in community spaces, their property. Anyway, let HIM do the dirty work (his job, actually) of confronting the neighbor from here on.

Next, I would definitely call the cops anonymously EVERY time there's a domestic disturbance. Even if what's going on is not grounds for police action every time, it helps your purposes to have his pattern of behavior documented by the cops and your landlord, both of whom are very possibly already aware of this guy.

You could try turning him in for drugs, but you have to keep a few things in mind: Where I live at least, the cops won't enter a person's house to search unless they have REALLY good probable cause, and, unless you live in Pleasantville, it's likely they won't waste their time on one dorky small-time dealer's apartment. You'd have better luck if you know, for a fact, he has drugs on his person or in his car while he's out and about. Or, if there is observable drug activity outside his door the cops would more readily handle that.

In any case, try to preserve your anonymity -- he already knows you're pissed. Good luck. I despise idiots like him.
[This message was edited Sun Dec 28 8:52:31 PST 2003 by Lammastide]
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Reply #23 posted 12/28/03 11:05am

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Oh, wait...you said opinions, dint you??...
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Reply #24 posted 12/28/03 11:24am

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Invite him round for tea and hash cakes.
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