I wanted a rice krispie treat and so I made them and ate one fully knowing that the marshmallows were made with gelatin (usually animal bone) and I'm really freaked out because I'm vegetarian and part of the reason is because I love animals and now I feel really guilty.
Have any of the other org vegetarians done something like this?

the animal was already geletized


there was nothing you could have done to save it

Do you know what they make bologna out of?

no pun

EGOBOOST said:

nopon or
tampon?

well check this...last night...i ate dinner at my cousins house...we had goulash...its made with hamburger...but she called this morning and i said how good dinner was...she informed me that it was DEER MEAT !!

Well I'm starting to calm down...maybe it was a good experience for me to have that after being so strict with myself for a couple years..I was getting to a point that I was being a little..I don't know what word I want..just being puritanical about it almost.

I've been a veggie for 15 years, and yeah, it STILL happens to me - my concern is less the moral aspect (though there IS that, don't get me wrong) than just the simple fact that I don't wanna get sick from something I didn't know has beef or chicken stock in the ingredients.

I don't know a lot about how gelatin is prepared, or if it's a byproduct of a killed animal or that of a living animal (such as milk or honey) - I've always been fairly lax where this ingredient is concerned, because it is in almost EVERYTHING, and I haven't seen or heard much in the way of vegetarian & animal rights groups railing against the cruelty of the gelatin industry, so with those justifications I figure I'm in the clear...

In general though, I've gotten really good at reading labels before I buy stuff at the grocery. Sounds like a hassle, but once you get into the habit, it's no big inconvenience.

I would imagine they do have to kill it...I mean it's bone, right? I always read labels but I dunno why I went ahead this time. I dunno what you mean that gelatin is in almost everything, I have no trouble keeping clear of it..it tends to be in some desserts and junk foods (jelly beans, marshmallows, mousse, jell-o) but I pretty much avoid those anyway.. I prefer dark chocolate bars and Snickers (high protein as well

Oh well...I'll be okay. Thanks

irresistibleb1tch said:

I knew full well what it was, that's why I feel guilty

**Temp. Sold Out** VeganSweets Vegan Marshmallows

Quantity in Basket: none
Code: 850
Price: $3.99




Quantity:

12 oz. bag of delicious vegan marshmallows, exclusively from Pangea's own brand, VeganSweets.
Please Note: In early September, we received a small shipment of this exciting new product into our warehouse. We expect our first full-scale, large shipment sometime in November.

Ingredients: Non-bone-char processed sugar, glucose syrup, water, vegetable gel (seaweed-derived), soy protein, vanillin, corn starch.

there are other sites to try as well. but try these people "pangea vegan products"

prrtybby said:

Thanks so much
Have you tried those, are they any good?

I haven't tried them yet myself, but how bad could they be??? I found the site when we were going to make rice crispy treat as well, but they were sold out. You could try a "Whole foods" or whatever your local organic food store is also. They might carry a brand of these kinds of sweets in the store without having to go through mail order.

Some vegetarian/vegan products taste I'd rather just not eat the rice krispies if they do. I learnt my lesson with the vegan american cheese slices and with tofu. Icky.
I'll check it out though; thank you

conch5184 said:

Bugger, I thought U meant a whole animal.

Fab Vegan Rice Krispie Treats

1 c. corn syrup
1 c. sugar
1 c. peanut butter
6-8 c. Rice Krispies
1 c. dark chocolate and/or peanut butter chips (optional)

Put the corn syrup, sugar, and peanut butter in a large saucepan. Heat until bubbly. Remove from heat and immediately stir in Rice Krispies (less if you like 'em gooey-er, more if you like them 'krispy'er). Smoosh into an oiled pan. Spread with chips while they are still hot, if you are so inclined. Let cool. Or, if you are impatient like me, don't, and burn your tongue.

These are even better than the traditional animal-based ones. I promise.

conch5184 said:

I totally agree!!! We once tried the "smartfood" brand of hotdogs and deli meat Can we just talk about how the "deli meat" was GREEN!!! since when is fake turkey and chicken and bologna GREEN!!! and the hotdogs were all rubbery and slimey!! SOOO GROSSS

CAMILLE4U said:

prrtybby said:

eww There are meat products from animals that are engineered without a central nervous system, so they don't feel pain. I've thought about that, but another of my own reasons is the health factor..maybe if I get married to a non-vegetarian I would use that in recipes though, to make them happy.

tackam said:

Oh MY GOD that sounds amazing!!! I am deffinately going to try these this weekend!!! what a great recipe!! you should have seen me trying to find paper and a pen to write it down.

tackam said:

That looks like it would be good. I'm picky about what I like peanut butter in but I think I might try that...in fact I have almost all the ingredients...maybe later I'll run to the store and get the corn syrup. Thanks

There goes my lunch. I will never eat rice crispie squares again, ever!

luv4u said:

Just make them tackam's way

tackam said:

sounds awesome - thanks!!

conch5184 said:

how do they "make" an animal without a nervous system??? YUCKY! I am a vegetarian also because of health reasons. But the more I hear about things like animals with no nervous systems the more it is turning into because of the animals. The smartfood brand is all tofu products, but so is morning star brand hotdogs (they don't make "deli meat" though) and they are GREAT!! the only deal is they have to stay frozen until you are ready to cook them. We follow the directions on the initial cooking but then to make the skin crispy, we fry them in a pan. Tastes almost like they were grilled.

prrtybby said:

They can do amazing things these days in terms of genetic modification, etc. I don't think it's awful...The animal doesn't feel anything. It's great because it might cause more people to consider it who like "real" meat this more animal-friendly option.
I never really liked hot dogs but I've tried morning star I think it was the burgers..they're good

conch5184 said:

I guess I really didn't think of it like that. That is a good way of looking at it. do you generally just eat vegetables or do you eat "fake meat" products as well? We eat both at my house, but I know tons of people that won't eat the "fake meat" because it is too much like the "real" thing to them.

conch5184 said:

Yeah, true enough - I'm conscious of products that obviously have gelatin in them, and they're really not difficult for me to stay away from...not big on marshmallows, jell-o and the like...but like IrresistableBitch said, sometimes something as innocent-seeming as a vitamin will have gelatin...in cases like that, when I realize it after the fact, I just pretty much cut my losses and learn for the next time, and try not to beat myself up over it.

I've always found the definitions and origins of gelatin to be such a mysterious and non-specific thing. I guess common knowledge is that it comes from bone and cartilege, right?

justkelley said:

eeewww!!!