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Thread started 10/17/03 4:18pm

namepeace

What A Fool Believes -- got a hypothetical for you

Boy meets girl. Boy really digs girl and has reason to believe she reciprocates to some degree. Boy asks to see her. Girl hesitates, then later says she has a boyfriend and can correspond and can't see boy in the near future. What does boy do?
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Reply #1 posted 10/17/03 4:21pm

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Boy tells girl not to worry for he does not get jealous. Maybe boyfriend might but not this boy that met girl. wink
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Reply #2 posted 10/17/03 4:23pm

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Reply #3 posted 10/17/03 5:40pm

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boy cries that the woman he wanted for over a year turned out to be the unattainable glimmer of hope in boy's otherwise dull and monotonous life.

boy then becomes best friend of girl, listens to her every concern, becomes her shoulder to cry on, and foolishly continues to think girl will come to her senses and like boy.

boy knows he should not be so naiive, and should find new girl, but just can't bring himself to do it, no matter what other boys and girls say.
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Reply #4 posted 10/17/03 5:44pm

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I've seen this movie before...I know how it ends. You do, too, dearest boy. sigh
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Reply #5 posted 10/17/03 5:53pm

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boy says to dad- "what is the differnce between hypothetical and realistic?"

dad says to boy- "go and ask your mother if she would have sex with charlie next door for £500,000 and ask your sister if she would sleep with the postman for £500,000"

boy does as he is told

boy reports to dad that mum said "hell yeah!" and sister said "absolutely!"

dad tells boy- "there is the difference. hypothetially we're millionaires, but realistically we're just living with a couple of whores!"
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Reply #6 posted 10/17/03 7:16pm

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namepeace said:

What does boy do?

Tries to distance himself from her. If the boy continues to pursue at the girl's resistance, the boy can only get hurt by investing more time, energy and emotions into what the boy wants. Which according to the girl is not what she wants. If the boy believes he can be a platonic friend through correspondence, then the boy might not have anything to lose. But it seems to me the boy has already commenced investing himself. OR...

namepeace said:

Girl hesitates, then later says she has a boyfriend and can correspond and can't see boy in the near future.

In the "near future"? It would be interesting to find out if the girl really has a boyfriend, or if she just isn't ready to be involved right now, for whatever reason.

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Reply #7 posted 10/17/03 10:47pm

namepeace

AnotherLoverToo said:

I've seen this movie before...I know how it ends. You do, too, dearest boy. sigh
[This message was edited Fri Oct 17 19:21:39 PDT 2003 by AnotherLoverToo]


Well, as C-3PO said in Ep IV, for some of us, "we were made 2 suffer. It's our lot in life.":
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Reply #8 posted 10/17/03 10:49pm

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savoirfaire said:

boy cries that the woman he wanted for over a year turned out to be the unattainable glimmer of hope in boy's otherwise dull and monotonous life.

boy then becomes best friend of girl, listens to her every concern, becomes her shoulder to cry on, and foolishly continues to think girl will come to her senses and like boy.

boy knows he should not be so naiive, and should find new girl, but just can't bring himself to do it, no matter what other boys and girls say.


I guess u went to the movies with ALToo.

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Reply #9 posted 10/17/03 10:59pm

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namepeace said:

AnotherLoverToo said:

I've seen this movie before...I know how it ends. You do, too, dearest boy. sigh
[This message was edited Fri Oct 17 19:21:39 PDT 2003 by AnotherLoverToo]


Well, as C-3PO said in Ep IV, for some of us, "we were made 2 suffer. It's our lot in life.":


Some suffering is of our own making and can be avoided. And some people create their own suffering in order to avoid happiness, to stay heartsick and alone, because it's safe and familiar...

((the above is merely a buffet of opinion, not a fixed menu, from which to pick and choose)) wink
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Reply #10 posted 10/17/03 11:09pm

namepeace

AnotherLoverToo said:

namepeace said:

AnotherLoverToo said:

I've seen this movie before...I know how it ends. You do, too, dearest boy. sigh
[This message was edited Fri Oct 17 19:21:39 PDT 2003 by AnotherLoverToo]


Well, as C-3PO said in Ep IV, for some of us, "we were made 2 suffer. It's our lot in life.":


Some suffering is of our own making and can be avoided. And some people create their own suffering in order to avoid happiness, to stay heartsick and alone, because it's safe and familiar...

((the above is merely a buffet of opinion, not a fixed menu, from which to pick and choose)) wink


Indeed. But that ain't necessarily the hypothetical, is it?
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Reply #11 posted 10/17/03 11:13pm

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namepeace said:

AnotherLoverToo said:

namepeace said:

AnotherLoverToo said:

I've seen this movie before...I know how it ends. You do, too, dearest boy. sigh
[This message was edited Fri Oct 17 19:21:39 PDT 2003 by AnotherLoverToo]


Well, as C-3PO said in Ep IV, for some of us, "we were made 2 suffer. It's our lot in life.":


Some suffering is of our own making and can be avoided. And some people create their own suffering in order to avoid happiness, to stay heartsick and alone, because it's safe and familiar...

((the above is merely a buffet of opinion, not a fixed menu, from which to pick and choose)) wink


Indeed. But that ain't necessarily the hypothetical, is it?


Well, I was talking 'bout C-3PO, who were you talkin' bout? razz
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Reply #12 posted 10/18/03 12:57am

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Boy moves on.
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Reply #13 posted 10/18/03 1:03am

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Yes, he do, as apparently girl would rather be with boyfriend than with boy.
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Reply #14 posted 10/18/03 2:34am

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Move on little puppy.
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Reply #15 posted 10/18/03 9:13am

namepeace

AnotherLoverToo said:

namepeace said:

AnotherLoverToo said:

namepeace said:

AnotherLoverToo said:

I've seen this movie before...I know how it ends. You do, too, dearest boy. sigh
[This message was edited Fri Oct 17 19:21:39 PDT 2003 by AnotherLoverToo]


Well, as C-3PO said in Ep IV, for some of us, "we were made 2 suffer. It's our lot in life.":


Some suffering is of our own making and can be avoided. And some people create their own suffering in order to avoid happiness, to stay heartsick and alone, because it's safe and familiar...

((the above is merely a buffet of opinion, not a fixed menu, from which to pick and choose)) wink


Indeed. But that ain't necessarily the hypothetical, is it?


Well, I was talking 'bout C-3PO, who were you talkin' bout? razz


IG-88. He had a pointy head and the kiddie droids in the Jawa tank made fun of him, so he turned to petty theft and became a bounty hunter for the Sith Lord.
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Reply #16 posted 10/18/03 9:38am

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namepeace said:

Boy meets girl. Boy really digs girl and has reason to believe she reciprocates to some degree. Boy asks to see her. Girl hesitates, then later says she has a boyfriend and can correspond and can't see boy in the near future. What does boy do?


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Reply #17 posted 10/18/03 9:41am

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Damn...I thought this thread was about the Doobie Brothers...

sigh

But, anyway...you need to move on, sweetie and find someone who can be fully available to you...you deserve it! biggrin

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Reply #18 posted 10/18/03 10:29am

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i suspect the boy comes across as desperate without meaning to--boy needs to stand tall, beam with pride, and let the women come to him.

i could be wrong, of course--i bring it up because this boy has been there, and that was his problem, and that's how he solved it.

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Reply #19 posted 10/18/03 2:01pm

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teller said:

i suspect the boy comes across as desperate without meaning to--boy needs to stand tall, beam with pride, and let the women come to him.

i could be wrong, of course--i bring it up because this boy has been there, and that was his problem, and that's how he solved it.

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boy who said this might be right. thanks boy. smile
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Reply #20 posted 10/18/03 4:24pm

namepeace

teller said:

i suspect the boy comes across as desperate without meaning to--boy needs to stand tall, beam with pride, and let the women come to him.

i could be wrong, of course--i bring it up because this boy has been there, and that was his problem, and that's how he solved it.

hug


the advice is very well reasoned. but suppose boy stepped strong because he just had a feeling, and then backed off when it was time to "turn mother's picture to the wall and get out"?

if boy doesn't make himself known, he may miss out on "the" girl. matters of the heart are about taking calculated risks.

the risk is that boy creates the perception described above. but it would be better than being timid and not saying anything.

i've been there, too. the difference is, this writer took long years to come to his senses. this boy only needed a week. and so boy keeps moving.
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Reply #21 posted 10/18/03 4:26pm

namepeace

applekisses said:

Damn...I thought this thread was about the Doobie Brothers...

sigh

But, anyway...you need to move on, sweetie and find someone who can be fully available to you...you deserve it! biggrin

hug


boy thanks you.

he will be ever vigilant in the future.
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Reply #22 posted 10/18/03 4:30pm

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namepeace said:

teller said:

i suspect the boy comes across as desperate without meaning to--boy needs to stand tall, beam with pride, and let the women come to him.

i could be wrong, of course--i bring it up because this boy has been there, and that was his problem, and that's how he solved it.

hug


the advice is very well reasoned. but suppose boy stepped strong because he just had a feeling, and then backed off when it was time to "turn mother's picture to the wall and get out"?

if boy doesn't make himself known, he may miss out on "the" girl. matters of the heart are about taking calculated risks.

the risk is that boy creates the perception described above. but it would be better than being timid and not saying anything.

i've been there, too. the difference is, this writer took long years to come to his senses. this boy only needed a week. and so boy keeps moving.

Boy just needs to be emotionally honest and sincere...and he needs to do so no because he desires certain results, but simply because the living and expressing of those emotions is reward in and of itself.
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Reply #23 posted 10/18/03 4:33pm

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Boy drops her like a hot potato. She just playing.
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Reply #24 posted 10/18/03 4:37pm

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applekisses said:


But, anyway...you need to move on, sweetie and find someone who can be fully available to you...you deserve it! biggrin


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ps) Hey Namepeace, Just like to add that I think you rock! wink
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Reply #25 posted 10/18/03 5:47pm

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Cloudbuster said:

applekisses said:


But, anyway...you need to move on, sweetie and find someone who can be fully available to you...you deserve it! biggrin


nod

ps) Hey Namepeace, Just like to add that I think you rock! wink


Thanks, Cloud, the love is mutual!
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Reply #26 posted 10/18/03 5:59pm

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Maybe girl just needs push from right boy!
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Reply #27 posted 10/18/03 6:04pm

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namepeace said:

teller said:

i suspect the boy comes across as desperate without meaning to--boy needs to stand tall, beam with pride, and let the women come to him.

i could be wrong, of course--i bring it up because this boy has been there, and that was his problem, and that's how he solved it.

hug


the advice is very well reasoned. but suppose boy stepped strong because he just had a feeling, and then backed off when it was time to "turn mother's picture to the wall and get out"?

if boy doesn't make himself known, he may miss out on "the" girl. matters of the heart are about taking calculated risks.

the risk is that boy creates the perception described above. but it would be better than being timid and not saying anything.

i've been there, too. the difference is, this writer took long years to come to his senses. this boy only needed a week. and so boy keeps moving.

"the" girl, eh? "the" girl wouldn't push you away, my friend...mutual feelings are mutual, and if anything, the man is always the one with the advantage (though it may seem the opposite). stepping strong may sound strong from where you sit, but in fact, stepping strong and standing tall are two different behaviors. if she wants you for you, then all you must do is be you; anticipation of more only weakens your hand. know that you have a strong hand...know that you are a supreme value; know that she, if she is worthy, must respond.

men pursue women, true...but in reality, women pursue men. and they want the strong man. the provider. the superman. the great and powerful.

i didn't exactly step strong, but i didn't step back. i gave out the signal and i knew it was right when it was returned--if it wasn't, i didn't. such is the chemistry.
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Reply #28 posted 10/18/03 6:46pm

namepeace

teller said:

namepeace said:

teller said:

i suspect the boy comes across as desperate without meaning to--boy needs to stand tall, beam with pride, and let the women come to him.

i could be wrong, of course--i bring it up because this boy has been there, and that was his problem, and that's how he solved it.

hug


the advice is very well reasoned. but suppose boy stepped strong because he just had a feeling, and then backed off when it was time to "turn mother's picture to the wall and get out"?

if boy doesn't make himself known, he may miss out on "the" girl. matters of the heart are about taking calculated risks.

the risk is that boy creates the perception described above. but it would be better than being timid and not saying anything.

i've been there, too. the difference is, this writer took long years to come to his senses. this boy only needed a week. and so boy keeps moving.

"the" girl, eh? "the" girl wouldn't push you away, my friend...mutual feelings are mutual, and if anything, the man is always the one with the advantage (though it may seem the opposite). stepping strong may sound strong from where you sit, but in fact, stepping strong and standing tall are two different behaviors. if she wants you for you, then all you must do is be you; anticipation of more only weakens your hand. know that you have a strong hand...know that you are a supreme value; know that she, if she is worthy, must respond.

men pursue women, true...but in reality, women pursue men. and they want the strong man. the provider. the superman. the great and powerful.

i didn't exactly step strong, but i didn't step back. i gave out the signal and i knew it was right when it was returned--if it wasn't, i didn't. such is the chemistry.


true. but in order to find out if she were "the" girl, i had to step strong. now that the "boy" has done so, and has answered the question in the negative, it's time to stand tall and ride on.

some guys are slow on the take to that concept. but i find that a man that learns that concept can take it too far. mistaking distance for strength. but a man who keeps his distance attracts women. why i have no idea, but it's true.

but you've got this down to a science, my friend.
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Reply #29 posted 10/18/03 7:00pm

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I strongly believe that finding "the one" is about discovering the right combination of a.) chemistry, b.) good timing and c.) personality compatibility between two specific individuals--not just generic groups of "men" and "women".

Believing one gender is more (or less) 'in control' is sad. The need to even think that is strange, in my opinion, and only sets things up for future power struggles on the part of the person who cares so much about this 'control'. It's about two individuals responding to one another at a certain time, in a certain place--or not.
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