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Thread started 10/10/03 12:42pm

slm4m

Well, this is getting wierd....

I just got a phone call from a friend who has been fighting with me. Yet another out burst from him.

Here is some background:

http://www.prince.org/msg/100/64585
http://www.prince.org/msg/100/64707

I am sick of this, how do I tell him that he cannot continue this behavior?
[This message was edited Fri Oct 10 12:48:53 PDT 2003 by slm4m]
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Reply #1 posted 10/10/03 12:44pm

Cloudbuster

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Do you reckon he could be having some kind of breakdown?
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Reply #2 posted 10/10/03 12:45pm

AnotherLoverTo
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I'd suggest sitting down with a 3rd party who has influence with your friend and figuring things out, if you're at all open to the idea of it.

Otherwise, I recommend a no-contact/restraining order.
[This message was edited Fri Oct 10 12:45:24 PDT 2003 by AnotherLoverToo]
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Reply #3 posted 10/10/03 12:52pm

slm4m

Cloudbuster said:

Do you reckon he could be having some kind of breakdown?


Yes I'm thinking that way... things seem to be heading toward a dangerous area... he won't listen to anyone... it is like he just looks to confront me and then he just swears at me.
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Reply #4 posted 10/10/03 12:56pm

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You could have a word with his wife to see if she could encourage him to see his doctor.
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Reply #5 posted 10/10/03 12:57pm

slm4m

AnotherLoverToo said:

I'd suggest sitting down with a 3rd party who has influence with your friend and figuring things out, if you're at all open to the idea of it.

Otherwise, I recommend a no-contact/restraining order.
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He won't listen to a 3rd party, Restraining order, been there done that, don't work.
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Reply #6 posted 10/10/03 12:59pm

AnotherLoverTo
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slm4m said:

AnotherLoverToo said:

I'd suggest sitting down with a 3rd party who has influence with your friend and figuring things out, if you're at all open to the idea of it.

Otherwise, I recommend a no-contact/restraining order.
[This message was edited Fri Oct 10 12:45:24 PDT 2003 by AnotherLoverToo]



He won't listen to a 3rd party, Restraining order, been there done that, don't work.


So there is history with this person, then?

You need to call the police when he breaks the restraining order, to make it work wink (I'm assuming you didn't) Perhaps if he went to jail, he'd be forced to get the mental health care he needs.
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Reply #7 posted 10/10/03 1:00pm

slm4m

Cloudbuster said:

You could have a word with his wife to see if she could encourage him to see his doctor.


Thanks Cloudbuster... I will have a word with his wife and if she is not mad at him, I will try to talk with her about the situation.
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Reply #8 posted 10/10/03 1:01pm

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Have you talked to his wife at all. I mean really talk to her?
2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740
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Reply #9 posted 10/10/03 1:01pm

Cloudbuster

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slm4m said:

Cloudbuster said:

You could have a word with his wife to see if she could encourage him to see his doctor.


Thanks Cloudbuster... I will have a word with his wife and if she is not mad at him, I will try to talk with her about the situation.


Good luck. wink
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Reply #10 posted 10/10/03 1:04pm

slm4m

AnotherLoverToo said:

slm4m said:

AnotherLoverToo said:

I'd suggest sitting down with a 3rd party who has influence with your friend and figuring things out, if you're at all open to the idea of it.

Otherwise, I recommend a no-contact/restraining order.
[This message was edited Fri Oct 10 12:45:24 PDT 2003 by AnotherLoverToo]



He won't listen to a 3rd party, Restraining order, been there done that, don't work.


So there is history with this person, then?

You need to call the police when he breaks the restraining order, to make it work wink (I'm assuming you didn't) Perhaps if he went to jail, he'd be forced to get the mental health care he needs.


I have a restraining order on another person from my past. No restraining order on this person. If he does not stop soon I will be forced to deal with the police.
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Reply #11 posted 10/10/03 1:07pm

slm4m

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Have you talked to his wife at all. I mean really talk to her?


Yes, the evening the intial incident occurred. He saw us talking and started screaming "cuss" words at us. It was very embarrassing.
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Reply #12 posted 10/10/03 1:09pm

logger

Just go over there and kick his ass...
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Reply #13 posted 10/10/03 1:11pm

slm4m

logger said:

Just go over there and kick his ass...


I wish I could... but I would be sinking to his level.
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Reply #14 posted 10/10/03 1:14pm

logger

He sounds like a right muppet...
Has he lost touch with reality?Is he going to work?Is his wife still with him?Let him off.He'll come round to his senses someday or else he'll end up in a straight jacket.
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Reply #15 posted 10/10/03 1:15pm

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ummm...it's time to change your friends...

rolleyes
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Reply #16 posted 10/10/03 1:18pm

slm4m

Vashti said:

ummm...it's time to change your friends...

rolleyes


Yeah.. considering my lack of sleep ovver this -- I just wouldn't want him to treat others like that.
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Reply #17 posted 10/10/03 1:20pm

slm4m

logger said:

He sounds like a right muppet...
Has he lost touch with reality?Is he going to work?Is his wife still with him?Let him off.He'll come round to his senses someday or else he'll end up in a straight jacket.


I think so..
work.. no doesn't work
yes she is.
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Reply #18 posted 10/10/03 1:21pm

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it really sounds like he might suffer from some mental disorder - bipolar or something along those lines. very sad to watch and very difficult to deal with.

i agree with the others who said to talk to his wife (again), and if you value him and his friendship, you may need to make some difficult decisions on how to help him.

it's hard to go through, but it's important for us to take care of each other, especially when we deal with disease.
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Reply #19 posted 10/10/03 1:27pm

slm4m

irresistibleb1tch said:

it really sounds like he might suffer from some mental disorder - bipolar or something along those lines. very sad to watch and very difficult to deal with.

i agree with the others who said to talk to his wife (again), and if you value him and his friendship, you may need to make some difficult decisions on how to help him.

it's hard to go through, but it's important for us to take care of each other, especially when we deal with disease.


Yes it is very sad. He has been so harsh that I can be his friend no longer. I will try to talk to his wife again -- then after the help is given to him -- the friend ship is over. I wish no further contact with him. No one should treat anyone the way he has. Mental illness or not.
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Reply #20 posted 10/10/03 1:31pm

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slm4m said:

irresistibleb1tch said:

it really sounds like he might suffer from some mental disorder - bipolar or something along those lines. very sad to watch and very difficult to deal with.

i agree with the others who said to talk to his wife (again), and if you value him and his friendship, you may need to make some difficult decisions on how to help him.

it's hard to go through, but it's important for us to take care of each other, especially when we deal with disease.


Yes it is very sad. He has been so harsh that I can be his friend no longer. I will try to talk to his wife again -- then after the help is given to him -- the friend ship is over. I wish no further contact with him. No one should treat anyone the way he has. Mental illness or not.


i know you're upset, but i hope you will reconsider. your friendship may never be the same, granted, but i shudder at the thought that, were i to be diagnosed with a mental illness, all of my friends might turn their backs. if your friend is really sick, he needs your help more than ever.
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Reply #21 posted 10/10/03 1:37pm

slm4m

irresistibleb1tch said:

slm4m said:

irresistibleb1tch said:

it really sounds like he might suffer from some mental disorder - bipolar or something along those lines. very sad to watch and very difficult to deal with.

i agree with the others who said to talk to his wife (again), and if you value him and his friendship, you may need to make some difficult decisions on how to help him.

it's hard to go through, but it's important for us to take care of each other, especially when we deal with disease.


Yes it is very sad. He has been so harsh that I can be his friend no longer. I will try to talk to his wife again -- then after the help is given to him -- the friend ship is over. I wish no further contact with him. No one should treat anyone the way he has. Mental illness or not.


i know you're upset, but i hope you will reconsider. your friendship may never be the same, granted, but i shudder at the thought that, were i to be diagnosed with a mental illness, all of my friends might turn their backs. if your friend is really sick, he needs your help more than ever.



yeah good point.
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Reply #22 posted 10/10/03 1:39pm

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irresistibleb1tch said:

slm4m said:

irresistibleb1tch said:

it really sounds like he might suffer from some mental disorder - bipolar or something along those lines. very sad to watch and very difficult to deal with.

i agree with the others who said to talk to his wife (again), and if you value him and his friendship, you may need to make some difficult decisions on how to help him.

it's hard to go through, but it's important for us to take care of each other, especially when we deal with disease.


Yes it is very sad. He has been so harsh that I can be his friend no longer. I will try to talk to his wife again -- then after the help is given to him -- the friend ship is over. I wish no further contact with him. No one should treat anyone the way he has. Mental illness or not.


...were i to be diagnosed with a mental illness...


What do you mean "IF you were"? You're mos def mental, girl! lol

(Sorry, slm4m, no disrespect meant, I couldn't resist smile)
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Reply #23 posted 10/10/03 1:42pm

irresistibleb1
tch

AnotherLoverToo said:

irresistibleb1tch said:

slm4m said:

irresistibleb1tch said:

it really sounds like he might suffer from some mental disorder - bipolar or something along those lines. very sad to watch and very difficult to deal with.

i agree with the others who said to talk to his wife (again), and if you value him and his friendship, you may need to make some difficult decisions on how to help him.

it's hard to go through, but it's important for us to take care of each other, especially when we deal with disease.


Yes it is very sad. He has been so harsh that I can be his friend no longer. I will try to talk to his wife again -- then after the help is given to him -- the friend ship is over. I wish no further contact with him. No one should treat anyone the way he has. Mental illness or not.


...were i to be diagnosed with a mental illness...


What do you mean "IF you were"? You're mos def mental, girl! lol

(Sorry, slm4m, no disrespect meant, I couldn't resist smile)


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Reply #24 posted 10/10/03 2:53pm

Anxiety

If the person truly is imbalanced, the first thing you have to do is separate what the illness is saying from the person who's saying it. You can't take what he's saying too much to heart, even though you are very much correct in taking all available steps to protect yourself from his rages.

The second thing to do is, if you are in contact with other people who know this man, is to talk with them about his behavior and discuss how it can be dealt with - if you want to find help for him, or if you even just want to create a support network so you have someone who is "in the know" the next time you absorb one of his outbursts.

Another thing I would do is not let this guy's diatribes go on too long. Either try to de-escalate the situation with non-confrontational language, or else very calmly say "I can't talk to you when you're this upset. You're not supposed to be calling here. I'm going to have to go now."

Have people around who know about the situation, and don't take his outbursts to heart, and you're off to a good start.
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Reply #25 posted 10/10/03 3:56pm

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slm4m said:

irresistibleb1tch said:

it really sounds like he might suffer from some mental disorder - bipolar or something along those lines. very sad to watch and very difficult to deal with.

i agree with the others who said to talk to his wife (again), and if you value him and his friendship, you may need to make some difficult decisions on how to help him.

it's hard to go through, but it's important for us to take care of each other, especially when we deal with disease.


Yes it is very sad. He has been so harsh that I can be his friend no longer. I will try to talk to his wife again -- then after the help is given to him -- the friend ship is over. I wish no further contact with him. No one should treat anyone the way he has. Mental illness or not.


wow. this reminds me of something i experienced. in fact i did a thread in here to ask about other people's Xperiences and someone turned me onto this link: http://ocd.nami.org/illness/. it helps to talk to people about this stuff. you probably already know but remember, if you decide to still be this person's friend knowing he has this handicap you can still do that while taking a step back, and protecting yourself. good luck.
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Reply #26 posted 10/10/03 4:11pm

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You both live in the same street.

But the confrontation started when you went to his house in your car

hmmm
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Reply #27 posted 10/10/03 4:19pm

mcmeekle

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You both live in the same street.

But the confrontation started when you went to his house in your car

hmmm

Interesting.

slm4m, you and your friend are not the same person are you?
Kind of a Fight Club situation?



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[This message was edited Fri Oct 10 16:22:05 PDT 2003 by mcmeekle]
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Reply #28 posted 10/16/03 9:27am

slm4m

PANDURITO said:

You both live in the same street.

But the confrontation started when you went to his house in your car

hmmm


Yes to pick him up.
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