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PrintableI don't think its necessary to slam the whole NPGMC for the ignorance of one.
It's a good club, apart from the occasional fanatical moron. You'd get that in any exclusive fan club. . [This message was edited Tue Sep 30 21:24:14 PDT 2003 by mrdespues] | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: i understood all that 'nova said...she knows what she's talkin 'bout.
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I posted this at 12:36 am PST, Oct.1. I wonder how long it's gonna stay up? Actually, no I don't 
I cannot believe this thread is still up here. It took less than an hour to remove some of the posts that were expressing displeasure with the high prices of the Australian tickets. An entire day has gone by and this homophobic drivel has not been removed T say that "...what God taught me about homosexuality...it's a world where people live in a state of confusion" is so blatantly disrespectful and shows ill-will, how much more contrary could that be to the purpose of this forum? I, along with most people on this site have a strong faith in God and have learned no such thing about homosexuals. That is clearly just as offensive as Bush saying "God told me to do it" (when referring to bombing Iraq) and Osama bin Laden/Al Quaeda whoever-the-media-purportedly says "Allah told me to do it"(when referring to Sept 11 or supposed future attacks on America). Bullcrap! Religious-dividing bullcrap! And is very devisive, not hardly explemary of an "open-mind". What exactly is it that the writer would "not want heterosexual males to find out the way [he] did"? That men are homosexual? That people can have fun together despite their different sexual preferences? That maybe as it has been said, the girl wanted to have fun and dance rather than be "persuaded" upon a stranger? That maybe since God is a perfect form, the perfect being, ALL THAT THERE IS, and made EVERYTHING in it's image and likeness that God could not have made ANY imperfection, nothing "wrong" or "confused"? That maybe, just maybe what is so often passed off as God's inspired word...no matter what you call it (insert name of version) Bible, Qu'Ran, Talmud, etc...THOSE ARE THE WORDS OF MAN USED TO IMPART MAN'S IDEAS??? Man...I am out for real now...duck fuck since I can't say it there the number of posts...I'll wait for Prince to go on tour again. This is for the birds! [This message was edited Wed Oct 1 0:37:31 PDT 2003 by beautifulone7] [This message was edited Wed Oct 1 0:38:34 PDT 2003 by beautifulone7] [This message was edited Wed Oct 1 0:39:37 PDT 2003 by beautifulone7] [This message was edited Wed Oct 1 0:40:32 PDT 2003 by beautifulone7] | |
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JDINTERACTIVE said: I actually thought Prince was opening a toy shop when I opened this thread. U can imagine my dissapoint when I found out it was about another loony story from the Aslylum.
Toys?
LEGO? | |
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gooeythehamster said: JDINTERACTIVE said: I actually thought Prince was opening a toy shop when I opened this thread. U can imagine my dissapoint when I found out it was about another loony story from the Aslylum.
Toys?
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You guys rock!!! The dialogue that has taken place on this thread has made me think that we all could meet in real life and such respectful discussion could take place. NPS, as always you have spoken with eloquence and your posts are always thought-provoking. I started to reply over there, but I thought "Why bother?" I have been upset over threads on that site regarding the les/bi/gay lifestyle, made my comments on such threads and they were allowed to remain anyway, so, in essence, fuck it!!! Ian, I don't agree with what you said but I do respect it. NettieSmiles, I am sorry that this subject has upset you. | |
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THE THREAD HAS BEEN DELETED!!!  Props to all of you who responded to that thread over there and props to NPGMC for removing the thread. | |
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stymie said: THE THREAD HAS BEEN DELETED!!!
Props to all of you who responded to that thread over there and props to NPGMC for removing the thread.Sometimes deleting the thread isn't the answer though... as you can see in this case we allowed the discussion to proceed here on the Org and it proved to be quite a fruitful, interesting thread. Obviously at times it is necessary to remove content, but stifling good discussion isn't something we should be striving for. I wouldn't want to live in a world where any opinions that differed to my own could be instantly banished. I like hearing other peoples' opinions on stuff. Anyway, NPGMC mods took action in the end, nullifying all the hysterical types saying that they were "allowing" it to remain  | |
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ian said: stymie said: THE THREAD HAS BEEN DELETED!!!
Props to all of you who responded to that thread over there and props to NPGMC for removing the thread.Sometimes deleting the thread isn't the answer though... as you can see in this case we allowed the discussion to proceed here on the Org and it proved to be quite a fruitful, interesting thread. Obviously at times it is necessary to remove content, but stifling good discussion isn't something we should be striving for. I wouldn't want to live in a world where any opinions that differed to my own could be instantly banished. I like hearing other peoples' opinions on stuff. Anyway, NPGMC mods took action in the end, nullifying all the hysterical types saying that they were "allowing" it to remain He wrote: Somebody is so scared of my words that they had the original thread locked? How wimpy. I don't know if it's CDaryl or Chicagonation that had something to do with my deleted review, but neither of you were man enough to say anything to me. I don't know what part of that review offended you, but it was unintentional. Besides, I'm entitled to my opinion. And if you can't respect mine, but expect me to respect yours, then that makes you a hypocrite. Have some respect and say exactly what's on your mind. Quit hating. Because you didn't like my review, you had it deleted? How wimpy. I'm done with this, so I'll just say May God B with us all. I wrote: First of all, I am not a man. Second, I did not report your first thread but I did report this one. I will be woman enough to admit that. You are indeed entitled to your opinion as I am entitled to mine and mine is that your threads are offensive to me. But perhaps, this one should stay up and maybe some constructive dialogue can be had by us all. | |
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ian said: Sometimes deleting the thread isn't the answer though... as you can see in this case we allowed the discussion to proceed here on the Org and it proved to be quite a fruitful, interesting thread.
Obviously at times it is necessary to remove content, but stifling good discussion isn't something we should be striving for. I wouldn't want to live in a world where any opinions that differed to my own could be instantly banished. I like hearing other peoples' opinions on stuff. Anyway, NPGMC mods took action in the end, nullifying all the hysterical types saying that they were "allowing" it to remain Ian, In the past, I've been known to say that I believe in freedom of expression so much that I would even welcome the KKK to hold a rally in my neighborhood, not because I have an ounce of respect for what they stand for, but because it is their right to do so. I also believe that language is harmless on its own, and that the meaning one assigns to words gives language power, and so language in and of itself ought not to be censored. I believe these things still, and would support anybody who honestly felt their ability to express themselves was being unfairly stifled. HOWEVER, in the case we've discussed into the ground on this thread, we're talking about an environment that ostensibly goes to great lengths to maintain a strict level of what they define as "unity". As you have stated in past threads yourself, freedom of speech doesn't exist on a privately owned web site unless you are the owner of that site. And at NPGMC, they have made it painfully clear that the ability to post on their boards is anything but a "right" but rather a privilege that can easily be taken away. Unfortunately, it's not always easy to understand what is considered "offensive" over there. I sometimes think it's the kind of environment where, if you dot your "i" the wrong way, they'll delete you. But one thing is clear: when one person "warns" against an entire group of people, that is far from unifying. Ian, as a moderator you have made plenty of decisions with which people have disagreed in the past. Lord knows I've had my moments with you. But as you've evolved in this capacity, you've taken on a level of accountability that speaks to your respect for dialog, debate and expression. You're willing to EXPLAIN your actions, and you actually seem to WANT people to enjoy themselves (and each other) on these boards. To compare your moderation here on the Org to that of NPGMC would be terribly unfair, and would do you and the other folks on here a great disservice. I think if any environment imposes a strict set of standards (as NPGMC has), it's important for those of us in that environment to hold the people in charge to their commitment. I'm not thrilled about the idea of TP's post getting deleted, but if it sends people at NPGMC the message that, in their view, posting divisive, intolerant comments is just as "disharmonious" as talking shit about Prince's ticket prices, then maybe it's for the best. | |
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stymie said: You guys rock!!! The dialogue that has taken place on this thread has made me think that we all could meet in real life and such respectful discussion could take place. NPS, as always you have spoken with eloquence and your posts are always thought-provoking. I started to reply over there, but I thought "Why bother?" I have been upset over threads on that site regarding the les/bi/gay lifestyle, made my comments on such threads and they were allowed to remain anyway, so, in essence, fuck it!!! Ian, I don't agree with what you said but I do respect it. NettieSmiles, I am sorry that this subject has upset you.
I second that. Regardless of the debate that came from it (which I really appreciated, and have learned from), I really admire NPS's candor and honesty, and I truly respect Nettie's passion and good will. Stymie, your good thoughts are the glue that keeps us together. As much as we may butt heads and disagree on some of the finer points, I couldn't choose a better bunch of people. | |
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Anxiety said: ian said: Sometimes deleting the thread isn't the answer though... as you can see in this case we allowed the discussion to proceed here on the Org and it proved to be quite a fruitful, interesting thread.
Obviously at times it is necessary to remove content, but stifling good discussion isn't something we should be striving for. I wouldn't want to live in a world where any opinions that differed to my own could be instantly banished. I like hearing other peoples' opinions on stuff. Anyway, NPGMC mods took action in the end, nullifying all the hysterical types saying that they were "allowing" it to remain Ian, In the past, I've been known to say that I believe in freedom of expression so much that I would even welcome the KKK to hold a rally in my neighborhood, not because I have an ounce of respect for what they stand for, but because it is their right to do so. I also believe that language is harmless on its own, and that the meaning one assigns to words gives language power, and so language in and of itself ought not to be censored. I believe these things still, and would support anybody who honestly felt their ability to express themselves was being unfairly stifled. HOWEVER, in the case we've discussed into the ground on this thread, we're talking about an environment that ostensibly goes to great lengths to maintain a strict level of what they define as "unity". As you have stated in past threads yourself, freedom of speech doesn't exist on a privately owned web site unless you are the owner of that site. And at NPGMC, they have made it painfully clear that the ability to post on their boards is anything but a "right" but rather a privilege that can easily be taken away. Unfortunately, it's not always easy to understand what is considered "offensive" over there. I sometimes think it's the kind of environment where, if you dot your "i" the wrong way, they'll delete you. But one thing is clear: when one person "warns" against an entire group of people, that is far from unifying. Ian, as a moderator you have made plenty of decisions with which people have disagreed in the past. Lord knows I've had my moments with you. But as you've evolved in this capacity, you've taken on a level of accountability that speaks to your respect for dialog, debate and expression. You're willing to EXPLAIN your actions, and you actually seem to WANT people to enjoy themselves (and each other) on these boards. To compare your moderation here on the Org to that of NPGMC would be terribly unfair, and would do you and the other folks on here a great disservice. I think if any environment imposes a strict set of standards (as NPGMC has), it's important for those of us in that environment to hold the people in charge to their commitment. I'm not thrilled about the idea of TP's post getting deleted, but if it sends people at NPGMC the message that, in their view, posting divisive, intolerant comments is just as "disharmonious" as talking shit about Prince's ticket prices, then maybe it's for the best. Absolutely Anxiety, I quite agree. (and thanks for the positive words!) Whilst deleting threads isn't ideal, it is at times entirely necessary. I don't blame NPGMC for getting rid of that particular thread, no doubt they had a lot of complaints about it and it doesn't exactly fit in with the NPGMC ethos of harmony, unity and all that guff. But as you say, I'm a fan of creating good discussions and only killing the threads when it really gets out of hand, off-topic or abusive. As long as stuff is kept civil, on-topic, and intelligent, I try to indulge controversial threads if it looks like they create interesting discourse. But, in this case NPGMC probably did the right thing, IMO. However I also feel I did the right thing by allowing *this* thread to remain. | |
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This guy simply doesn't understand the politics of the dance floor. Guys should understand this.
If the girl is interested, she will dance with you. If the girl is not interested, she will find someone else to dance with, be it another guy to whom she's attracted or her girlfriend(s). Some girls don't want to dance with guys when they're at the club. They just want to be by themselves. Some girls love dancing with gay guys because they're not trying to take them home. They're deemed safe. Therefore, they will dance with them, sometimes "really" dance with them. Sometimes they will do this to ditch the other guy. My sense is, the gal wasn't feelin' the guy and he got mad. Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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namepeace said: My sense is, the gal wasn't feelin' the guy and he got mad.
In other words...sour grapes. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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I love Berlin...awesome parties there
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stymie said: THE THREAD HAS BEEN DELETED!!!
Props to all of you who responded to that thread over there and props to NPGMC for removing the thread.Oh boy. I hope it didn't have anything to do with my 
Sometimes I just get carried away.  | |
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MostBeautifulGrlNTheWorld said: I love Berlin...awesome parties there Were you there this past Sunday, MBGITW? I actually met and shook hands with this Tim guy.
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stymie said: MostBeautifulGrlNTheWorld said: I love Berlin...awesome parties there Were you there this past Sunday, MBGITW? I actually met and shook hands with this Tim guy.
Here's to you Tim I was gonna go but I was whiped out by time I got off of work.  I wanted to go so badly to. Next time though | |
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MostBeautifulGrlNTheWorld said: stymie said: MostBeautifulGrlNTheWorld said: I love Berlin...awesome parties there Were you there this past Sunday, MBGITW? I actually met and shook hands with this Tim guy.
Here's to you Tim I was gonna go but I was whiped out by time I got off of work. I wanted to go so badly to. Next time though | |
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stymie said: MostBeautifulGrlNTheWorld said: stymie said: MostBeautifulGrlNTheWorld said: I love Berlin...awesome parties there Were you there this past Sunday, MBGITW? I actually met and shook hands with this Tim guy.
Here's to you Tim I was gonna go but I was whiped out by time I got off of work. I wanted to go so badly to. Next time though I will deffinately let you know if I am going next month | |
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stymie said: ...I actually met and shook hands with this Tim guy.
Careful Stymie. | |
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bananacologne said: stymie said: ...I actually met and shook hands with this Tim guy.
Careful Stymie. | |
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stymie said: bananacologne said: stymie said: ...I actually met and shook hands with this Tim guy.
Careful Stymie. No - just concerned that u may innadvertently send this thread spinning off in2 a direction that wont be constructive 2 anyone. Now shh - before I delete yo ass   | |
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namepeace said: This guy simply doesn't understand the politics of the dance floor...My sense is, the gal wasn't feelin' the guy and he got mad.
Well said, namepeace! I think Prince's next album should be called "The Politixxx of the DanceFloor" - hey, it COULD happen! 
I agree with your astute observation. I find it funny how the guy doesn't even realize he's giving his hand away by telling us the chick wasn't digging him. Niiice avatar, namepeace! Heeey ya! Heey ya! Don't wantta meetcha daddy!!! (Oops, sorry...it's Stankonic Tourette's! I cain't HAILP it!!! What's cooler then bein' cool? ICE COLD!!!) No confusion, no tears. No enemies, no fear. No sorrow, no pain. No ball, no chain.
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theblueangel said: namepeace said: This guy simply doesn't understand the politics of the dance floor...My sense is, the gal wasn't feelin' the guy and he got mad.
Well said, namepeace! I think Prince's next album should be called "The Politixxx of the DanceFloor" - hey, it COULD happen!
I agree with your astute observation. I find it funny how the guy doesn't even realize he's giving his hand away by telling us the chick wasn't digging him. Niiice avatar, namepeace! Heeey ya! Heey ya! Don't wantta meetcha daddy!!! (Oops, sorry...it's Stankonic Tourette's! I cain't HAILP it!!! What's cooler then bein' cool? ICE COLD!!!) To quote Bartles, "Thank you for your support." I have been to Berlin. A whole lot more gay than hetero (nothing wrong with that, of course, but if you're a guy looking for a woman, that ain't the best bet oddswise). He shoulda gone to Funky Buddha Lounge or Subterranean for old school nite!
The cat just went to the wrong club. Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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ian said: Anxiety said: ian said: Sometimes deleting the thread isn't the answer though... as you can see in this case we allowed the discussion to proceed here on the Org and it proved to be quite a fruitful, interesting thread.
Obviously at times it is necessary to remove content, but stifling good discussion isn't something we should be striving for. I wouldn't want to live in a world where any opinions that differed to my own could be instantly banished. I like hearing other peoples' opinions on stuff. Anyway, NPGMC mods took action in the end, nullifying all the hysterical types saying that they were "allowing" it to remain Ian, In the past, I've been known to say that I believe in freedom of expression so much that I would even welcome the KKK to hold a rally in my neighborhood, not because I have an ounce of respect for what they stand for, but because it is their right to do so. I also believe that language is harmless on its own, and that the meaning one assigns to words gives language power, and so language in and of itself ought not to be censored. I believe these things still, and would support anybody who honestly felt their ability to express themselves was being unfairly stifled. HOWEVER, in the case we've discussed into the ground on this thread, we're talking about an environment that ostensibly goes to great lengths to maintain a strict level of what they define as "unity". As you have stated in past threads yourself, freedom of speech doesn't exist on a privately owned web site unless you are the owner of that site. And at NPGMC, they have made it painfully clear that the ability to post on their boards is anything but a "right" but rather a privilege that can easily be taken away. Unfortunately, it's not always easy to understand what is considered "offensive" over there. I sometimes think it's the kind of environment where, if you dot your "i" the wrong way, they'll delete you. But one thing is clear: when one person "warns" against an entire group of people, that is far from unifying. Ian, as a moderator you have made plenty of decisions with which people have disagreed in the past. Lord knows I've had my moments with you. But as you've evolved in this capacity, you've taken on a level of accountability that speaks to your respect for dialog, debate and expression. You're willing to EXPLAIN your actions, and you actually seem to WANT people to enjoy themselves (and each other) on these boards. To compare your moderation here on the Org to that of NPGMC would be terribly unfair, and would do you and the other folks on here a great disservice. I think if any environment imposes a strict set of standards (as NPGMC has), it's important for those of us in that environment to hold the people in charge to their commitment. I'm not thrilled about the idea of TP's post getting deleted, but if it sends people at NPGMC the message that, in their view, posting divisive, intolerant comments is just as "disharmonious" as talking shit about Prince's ticket prices, then maybe it's for the best. Absolutely Anxiety, I quite agree. (and thanks for the positive words!) Whilst deleting threads isn't ideal, it is at times entirely necessary. I don't blame NPGMC for getting rid of that particular thread, no doubt they had a lot of complaints about it and it doesn't exactly fit in with the NPGMC ethos of harmony, unity and all that guff. But as you say, I'm a fan of creating good discussions and only killing the threads when it really gets out of hand, off-topic or abusive. As long as stuff is kept civil, on-topic, and intelligent, I try to indulge controversial threads if it looks like they create interesting discourse. But, in this case NPGMC probably did the right thing, IMO. However I also feel I did the right thing by allowing *this* thread to remain.  hey ian, i say nice things about you too (mostly in places you can't see, or read, or hear, but still...) so, say... can i have my account back? pretty please?
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Anxiety said: stymie said: You guys rock!!! The dialogue that has taken place on this thread has made me think that we all could meet in real life and such respectful discussion could take place. NPS, as always you have spoken with eloquence and your posts are always thought-provoking. I started to reply over there, but I thought "Why bother?" I have been upset over threads on that site regarding the les/bi/gay lifestyle, made my comments on such threads and they were allowed to remain anyway, so, in essence, fuck it!!! Ian, I don't agree with what you said but I do respect it. NettieSmiles, I am sorry that this subject has upset you.
I second that. Regardless of the debate that came from it (which I really appreciated, and have learned from), I really admire NPS's candor and honesty, and I truly respect Nettie's passion and good will. Stymie, your good thoughts are the glue that keeps us together. As much as we may butt heads and disagree on some of the finer points, I couldn't choose a better bunch of people. 
I can only utter the words to a beautiful song by Stevie Wonder: "Love's in need of love today Don't delay, send yours in right away Hate's goin' round breaking many hearts Stop it please, before it goes too far!...let's give the world LOVE!!" Peace to all...Nettie (~!~) | |
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if this is the kind of intelligent, non-flamey conversation that's been going on around here in my absence, i'm sure glad i've been deactivated for the last 24 hours  | |
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AaronMaximus said: if this is the kind of intelligent, non-flamey conversation that's been going on around here in my absence, i'm sure glad i've been deactivated for the last 24 hours
You have to admit that discussion went alot farther here than it ever would have over on NPGMC. But seeing that you don't really care about these kinds of issues I don't know why you bother to reply. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: AaronMaximus said: if this is the kind of intelligent, non-flamey conversation that's been going on around here in my absence, i'm sure glad i've been deactivated for the last 24 hours
You have to admit that discussion went alot farther here than it ever would have over on NPGMC. But seeing that you don't really care about these kinds of issues I don't know why you bother to reply. eh... it's here. i'm here. why not? | |
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