JDINTERACTIVE said:

:LOL: :LOL:

EvilWhiteMale said:

Oh, please--how often do you actually think that happens? As if women don't work their asses off to get where they are...

Women really don't have to or need to do that kind of thing anymore. They're fucking men they want to fuck, whether it's the hot young guy in the mailroom or the CEO.

AnotherLoverToo said:

We have a hot young guy in our mailroom! AAOW!




sorry to be such nerd-o-matic.

INSATIABLE said:

Don't apologize, I wouldn't have you any other way, dear!

(Well, I would, but...you know )

Tom said:

Which would you rather do? 9 months of pregnancy or 18 years of child support?[/quote]








oops...wrong answer...:NONO:





because although i love my babies to death...and wouldnt trade them for the world...



i also am the one taking care of them everyday..and teaching them all they know ...molding their personalities...teaching them right from wrong...loving them...supporting them...laughing with them...crying with them...getting up with them when they are sick...watching after them when things are hard...emotionally supporting them...feeding them everyday...making sure they stay healthy...believing in them...always staying in 'their corner'...standing up for them...making them see how beautiful the world is...at the same time as preparing them for the evil...explaining the hardships in life...

the list goes on and on...


and frankly


no amount of money that is paid for child support...can make it right for a woman to give all she has...






men should raise their own kids...stay and help !!!

not play hide the weenie and run like an insecure child...someone has too be here to clean up your damn mess.





the only good that comes out of all of this...is when that baby looks up too you and says...mommy...i love you ...


a dead-beat dad will never have that...








like i said...wrong answer

Tom said:

Single or divorced moms almost always work, too, though. They don't just sit home and collect enough child support to pay for everything. Most single/divorced women don't even get child support, so those women have to do it all: make the money, create and maintain the home, and try to raise their children to be quality individuals.

AnotherLoverToo said:

you got that shit right

What's worse? Being a BITCH ..or having to interact with one?

I think there are pros and cons to both genders.

EvilWhiteMale said:

Men get paid more!!!

justkelley said:

oops...wrong answer...:NONO:





because although i love my babies to death...and wouldnt trade them for the world...



i also am the one taking care of them everyday..and teaching them all they know ...molding their personalities...teaching them right from wrong...loving them...supporting them...laughing with them...crying with them...getting up with them when they are sick...watching after them when things are hard...emotionally supporting them...feeding them everyday...making sure they stay healthy...believing in them...always staying in 'their corner'...standing up for them...making them see how beautiful the world is...at the same time as preparing them for the evil...explaining the hardships in life...

the list goes on and on...


and frankly


no amount of money that is paid for child support...can make it right for a woman to give all she has...






men should raise their own kids...stay and help !!!

not play hide the weenie and run like an insecure child...someone has too be here to clean up your damn mess.





the only good that comes out of all of this...is when that baby looks up too you and says...mommy...i love you ...


a dead-beat dad will never have that...








like i said...wrong answer [/quote]

I didn't mean my remark in a mean tone, I was just being silly. I know there are many exceptional women out there busting their ass to raise their kids. A very close friend of mine gave up child support so she wouldn't have to share custody with the deadbeat dad.

But I do also know alot of female friends of mine with little ambition other than to marry a rich guy and sit at home watching soap operas all day and shop while the kids are in school.

Tom said:

I didn't mean my remark in a mean tone, I was just being silly. I know there are many exceptional women out there busting their ass to raise their kids. A very close friend of mine gave up child support so she wouldn't have to share custody with the deadbeat dad.

But I do also know alot of female friends of mine with little ambition other than to marry a rich guy and sit at home watching soap operas all day and shop while the kids are in school.[/quote]



ok...as long as we know ...i am not one of those women...and most of us arent k ?


much


and many



P.S. -- sorry...i was in a pissy mood last night

AnotherLoverToo said:

My only point was that women can get away with stuff like that more than men. How many men (straight men)have you heard of who slept their way to the top of anything? When it comes to the casting couch, there certainly aren't as men men on it as women. That's all I'm saying. It has nothing to do with qualified, hard working women.

EvilWhiteMale said:

Thte casting couch exists only because us males dominate the industry as executives although that is changing. The casting couch was just another way for men to take advantage of women. It's not like the women invented it to propel their careers forward.

I hate to see the hard work that many women do lost in mindless scenarios like this. It just serves as another way to negate their true strength, beauty and power.

The problem is that a lot of women fuck their way to the top cuz they know they can. And as a result of that, many men in power use that as an advantage and work it. If some women would stop doing this, men would stop expecting it. But if a starving artist has a contract at the other side of the bed, it's hard to resist.

EvilWhiteMale said:

That's because it is usually men who are in power. It would be more balanced if there were as many women in power as men. That's why a gay man has a better chance of sleeping his way to the top than a straight man. There aren't enough women at those top levels for a straight man to honestly have a chance.

EWM, and what is your point? Some people (men and women) kill (literally) to get a position also. Just like that case, you are working some low odds here. Just give the women the props they deserve, man.

Most women work very hard to get where they get. I know many great women that have worked hard and respectfully to move forward.

The problem I have with threads like this is it serves to divide. I prefer unity. Low life tactics are low life tactics whether male or female. It is not gender specific.

In truth, men don't have it easy nor do women. If we work do the work together we might possibly make it a little more comfortable for all.

EWM, it just seems like you're constantly talking about women like all they do is scam men or the system to get ahead. Crying to get out of traffic tickets, fucking their bosses to get raises or promotions...yet the reality of life is that it's women and children who are the poorest in this nation and the world. (If women were using their sexuality constantly to get ahead, this wouldn't be the case, they'd be the richest in the land!)

Do you actually know women who do this, btw, because I don't? It appears you have this image of women that does not hold up in reality or with statistics. Perhaps you've been watching too much television? The women I know (and I've known quite a few) work hard and do things the way everyone else has to. They get traffic tickets and pay fines, they pay rent, they burn the midnight oil working on a report, they work long hard hours--and they don't prostitute themselves. They have sex with whomever they want to, or don't if they don't want to.

AnotherLoverToo said:

you tell him girl

You're still not getting what I'm saying. Of course I don't think the majority of women are doing this, but quite a few are. I do know women who got jobs or beat traffic tickets cuz they flirted a bit with the men in power. If a man interviews a qualified dude and a really hot chick, there's a good chance he'll hire the hot chick, especially if she flirts. Again, I'm not saying this is the norm, but it does happen. I have seen several actresses flirt like crazy with the directors to get a part in projects. These are guys they would never ever talk to in a bar, but since they have some power, they suddenly become desirable. And sure, if a hot girl gives them attention, they'll accept without a problem, promising them all sorts of shit. This happens in all industries. Women fuck the bosses to get into the office, they fuck the producers to get a record or film deal, and so on. How many hot women are out of work right now? Not as many as the less attractive. This goes the same for the men, but not as extreme. I'm just reporting what I've seen, it has nothing to do at all with personal opinion.

Paisley said:

Oh, don't get me started! On having to shave every ¤#!?/%# day! Do you realize how time consuming that is? And how expensive razor blades are?!
And SOME women that I have been exposed to - particularly at Prince concerts - think that their being women grants them certain priveleges.
And SOME women throw their hair and smile seductively to get out of a jam, whereas a man gets jammed.
Single mothers are privileged when it comes to housing and financial help. A single father is on his own.
I'm telling you - you should try to experience your own sex from a male perspective. THEN we can talk about who's lucky and who's privileged and who's got it easy.

I'm sorry. Don't take it personally, girls. It's just that ignorant remarks like Paisley's completely aggravate me.

I'm sure both sexes have their drawbacks AND their priveleges. You should think about that before posting sexist remarks.
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EvilWhiteMale said:

Pretty much all of your examples are from the entertainment industry. Most people don't have careers like that, ya know? Get real...

See, you are watching too much TV, EWM . If you don't like the superficiality of that business--including how women manipulate using their looks/bodies--then you should get out of it.

It's not just the entertainment business, it happens everywhere. You're not saying it doesn't happen, are you?

EvilWhiteMale said:

I never said it didn't ever happen--what I said was that you act like it happens constantly, like it's the norm, when I think your particular industry has jaded you. 90% of people don't behave like that...

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Cloudbuster said:

Sorry dude I'm not sharing.