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Reply #120 posted 07/24/03 2:32am

cabronazo

BLACK LADIES R THE SEXIEST AND THE BEST...WOW...
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Reply #121 posted 07/24/03 4:04am

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This whole post is racist on so many levels. But since I am white I cant say anything. Sorry, back to your regularly scheduled racism.


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Reply #122 posted 07/24/03 5:11am

cabronazo

[Snipped. Ian]
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Reply #123 posted 07/24/03 5:30am

chemmie

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cabronazo said:

[Snipped. Ian]



What the hell does that mean? and... i rest my case.

This whole post revolves around racist thought both towards non-blacks and towards blacks themselves. The notion that only a black woman can do those things is preposterous. Stereotyping that black women do those things is also rediculous. Then we get to the interracial relationship issue. whew! so much racism, so little time huh? But it's okay when minorities do it, they are allowed. bored

Wasnt it a black person that once said "free your mind"? Get this crap out of your head... the rest will soon follow.
"I'm here to chew bubblegum and kick ass, and I'm all out of bubblegum"
"Giving leaders enough power to create "social justice" is giving them enough power to destroy all justice, all freedom, and all human dignity." - Thomas Sowell
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Reply #124 posted 07/24/03 6:12am

ian

chemmie said:

cabronazo said:

[Snipped. Ian]



What the hell does that mean? and... i rest my case.

This whole post revolves around racist thought both towards non-blacks and towards blacks themselves. The notion that only a black woman can do those things is preposterous. Stereotyping that black women do those things is also rediculous. Then we get to the interracial relationship issue. whew! so much racism, so little time huh? But it's okay when minorities do it, they are allowed. bored

Wasnt it a black person that once said "free your mind"? Get this crap out of your head... the rest will soon follow.


I think most people just took Bad's post as basically celebrating black women, which is quite welcome. True enough though, as you say, taking it literally it makes no sense at all - black women certainly don't have a monopoly on any of those things.

As for the racist comments regarding interracial relationships made by one specific person... well we could have removed them, but sometimes it is interesting to give people some rope to hang themselves with. The discussion went ahead, and almost everyone disagreed with those comments and delivered the Org smackdown to the poster in question. Justice, Org-style... no one got away with anything.
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Reply #125 posted 07/24/03 6:41am

pandemoniun6

DigitalLisa said:

only a black woman will fight her mans battles for him lol seriously, if she see her man gettinginto a fight i swear she would jump in too . at least i would.,,,

[This message was edited Thu Jul 24 0:20:13 PDT 2003 by DigitalLisa]


Uh sorry but this has nothing to do with a black reaction. I jumped in between my boyfreind and a lunatic nazi just the other week - that's called adrenalin . Oh and by the way this national front twat had been spouting some of the exact same stupid ideas about race that I have scrolled through on this thread. Once again I have been dumbfounded by the fact that hatred comes in all forms. By assigning characteristics to yourself and other humans around you, you only justify the poison that flows through assholes like the one I encountered.
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Reply #126 posted 07/24/03 6:46am

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ian said:

I think most people just took Bad's post as basically celebrating black women, which is quite welcome. True enough though, as you say, taking it literally it makes no sense at all - black women certainly don't have a monopoly on any of those things.

As for the racist comments regarding interracial relationships made by one specific person... well we could have removed them, but sometimes it is interesting to give people some rope to hang themselves with. The discussion went ahead, and almost everyone disagreed with those comments and delivered the Org smackdown to the poster in question. Justice, Org-style... no one got away with anything.


its really no big deal. i just like pointing out the obvious. lol
"I'm here to chew bubblegum and kick ass, and I'm all out of bubblegum"
"Giving leaders enough power to create "social justice" is giving them enough power to destroy all justice, all freedom, and all human dignity." - Thomas Sowell
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Reply #127 posted 07/24/03 6:50am

applekisses

ian said:

00769BAD said:

2/3 of my children are of mixed races 'halfbreeds'
one of them (my lil baby) has a white mother.
she will no doubt have a much harder time in her future
because she has in her nine years had it rugher that the
other two, but she will have it better later because everyone will want to be with her.
Now here's the part where you say WHY???

SEE as a half breed she posesses an exotic look of the kind
that makes everyone think she's something different.
She's a charmer already (look at me) and she soaks up
knowlege like a sponge.
like me she will prolly have a hard time setteling down, but that's the least of it. she'll prolly want a man like
dear ole dad, but she'll catch hell for whutever choice she makes, lest she tie down with yet another halfbreed.
[b]Now there will be alot of people that want to have something to say about whut i just wrote, but you know whut... i bet that how it is. nod

yo yo yo,
i love my daughters, so don't get to wild with whut you say.


Great post BAD. Yeah if I have kids, I've no doubt they might have a hard time like that, due to being half Irish and half Japanese. Shit, they'll need to speak 3 languages which will be hard enough (Irish, Japanese, English) smile

But at the same time, they'll probably look very exotic and be considered good-looking (assuming they get my brains and my wife's looks - if it is the other way around they are screwed haha) so it's not all bad.

Weird though that you mention your daughters would catch hell for whatever their choice in husbands or boyfriends... Maybe I'm being naive since I myself married outside my race, but over here, no one really gives a shit who you go out with - I can't imagine ever getting any shit for your choice of partner like that. It must be an American thing... Sure my grandmother (being quite old and from an old-generation with old attitudes) was quite surprised the first time I brought home a Japanese girl to meet my family but she wouldn't say anything of it.



I'm a half-breed and proud of it... smile woot!
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Reply #128 posted 07/24/03 6:56am

applekisses

pandemoniun6 said:

DigitalLisa said:

only a black woman will fight her mans battles for him lol seriously, if she see her man gettinginto a fight i swear she would jump in too . at least i would.,,,

[This message was edited Thu Jul 24 0:20:13 PDT 2003 by DigitalLisa]


Uh sorry but this has nothing to do with a black reaction. I jumped in between my boyfreind and a lunatic nazi just the other week - that's called adrenalin . Oh and by the way this national front twat had been spouting some of the exact same stupid ideas about race that I have scrolled through on this thread. Once again I have been dumbfounded by the fact that hatred comes in all forms. By assigning characteristics to yourself and other humans around you, you only justify the poison that flows through assholes like the one I encountered.


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Good post! smile
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Reply #129 posted 07/24/03 7:10am

cabronazo

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Reply #130 posted 07/24/03 8:28am

DigitalLisa

pandemoniun6 said:

DigitalLisa said:

only a black woman will fight her mans battles for him lol seriously, if she see her man gettinginto a fight i swear she would jump in too . at least i would.,,,

[This message was edited Thu Jul 24 0:20:13 PDT 2003 by DigitalLisa]


Uh sorry but this has nothing to do with a black reaction. I jumped in between my boyfreind and a lunatic nazi just the other week - that's called adrenalin . Oh and by the way this national front twat had been spouting some of the exact same stupid ideas about race that I have scrolled through on this thread. Once again I have been dumbfounded by the fact that hatred comes in all forms. By assigning characteristics to yourself and other humans around you, you only justify the poison that flows through assholes like the one I encountered.


are you calling me a racist hmm
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Reply #131 posted 07/24/03 8:46am

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ugh, this thread disgusts me.

sweeping generalizations, innocuos use of racial slurs, racism.

i can't even comment, i am so disgusted.
Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely. - Lord Acton
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Reply #132 posted 07/24/03 8:55am

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TigersLyric ...Black men get the sloppy seconds, of the white woman, that the white men don't want no damn way...Usually they're FAT/NASTY SLOUGHY Trailer Tramps...


some people need to check to see if they have a brain or anything intelligent to say before the allow the verbal diarrhea to flow from their mouth...
a woman is a woman no matter their race, creed or religion.
a perfect example of racism i think someone has issues and needs to seek therapy...i love men, white, black, asian, spanish, native...i don't care...see i have the intelligence to see past color and find out what kind of person he is and how well he will treat me, that's all that really matters...maybe someday tigerslyric you'll realize this and learn to love yourself then maybe someone could learn to love you. hmm good luck with that.

whateva!!

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[This message was edited Thu Jul 24 9:07:37 PDT 2003 by lillith]
you're only as old as you feel..............so how old do i feel horny

Now that food has replaced sex in my life, I can't even get into my own pants.
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Reply #133 posted 07/24/03 8:55am

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"This whole post is racist on so many levels. But since I am white I cant say anything. Sorry, back to your regularly scheduled racism."

Oh shit!!! How could i have possibly forgotten that whole
Prince is a racist fiasco after someone posted his Moors
Poem.
any celebration of BLACKNESS is gonna be racist to 'YOU PEOPLE' who think that BLACK ON BLACK kudo s mean we ready to burn your block down.


But yes, this thread has gotten WAAAY outta hand

LET ME SAY THIS THEN,
Woman, as fickled as they may be, Have proven themselves to be the strongest and most durable of the sex's. With all they go through, have gone through you should all be PROUD
of that. There wasn't anything in there about "ONLY A WOMAN"
and if i had post whut the ARYON BROTHERHOOD writes about
"ONLY A WHITE WOMAN" y'all would be askin to have me booted.
i am KING BAD!!!
you are NOT...
evilking
STOP ME IF YOU HEARD THIS BEFORE...
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Reply #134 posted 07/24/03 8:57am

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KingBAD said:

if i had post whut the ARYON BROTHERHOOD writes about
"ONLY A WHITE WOMAN" y'all would be askin to have me booted.


exactly. so what makes it any better to post the opposite. it's racism on both sides
Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely. - Lord Acton
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Reply #135 posted 07/24/03 8:57am

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and oh yeah, Pss pss psss KILL THE THREAD!!!
i am KING BAD!!!
you are NOT...
evilking
STOP ME IF YOU HEARD THIS BEFORE...
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Reply #136 posted 07/24/03 9:00am

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well, i am sorry, but this really offends me. it's racism. i would be just as disgusted if it were saying ONLY a white woman "Can work full time while finishing school, raising respectful and intelligent children, be active in the PTA, be the pastor's secretary, and the choir president and a make it all seem effortless"

and other such shit.

ugh, i am so disgusted.
Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely. - Lord Acton
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Reply #137 posted 07/24/03 10:29am

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VERY interesting thread here.


KingBAD's idea to give props to "the sistas" is cool, because many times it seems that they get NO LOVE for all they do & have been through..
but I'm reasonably sure that sistas do what they want & need to do- not necessarily to get praise or credit for doing what any woman (or person, for that matter) should be doing..
so while I essentially agree with the intent- & the content..


some point-by-point comments:

ONLY A BLACK WOMAN
Can make a $1.00 out of 15 Cents
YES, but I've seen it done "elsewhere"..

ONLY A BLACK WOMAN
Can go from the boardroom to the 'hood and "keep it real" in both places.
True.

ONLY A BLACK WOMAN
Can slap the taste out of your mouth.
Yes she can, & you WON'T forget it anytime soon.

ONLY A BLACK WOMAN
Can put a Black man and his non-Black date on pins and needles just by walking into the room.
???

ONLY A BLACK WOMAN
Can live below poverty level and yet set fashion trends.
FOR REAL.

ONLY A BLACK WOMAN
Can fight two struggles everyday and make it look easy.
"making it look easy" is a perception.. & really, there isn't much choice, is there?

ONLY A BLACK WOMAN
Can be admired and fantasized about by men of other races and know that when she does cross over it's done out of sincerity, not a political move.
True, yet sistas hardly have a "monopoly" on this either

ONLY A BLACK WOMAN
Can be 75 years old and look 45!
MOST DEFINITELY. ASK LENA HORNE (better yet, just LOOK at her)

ONLY A BLACK WOMAN
Can make other women want to pay plastic surgeons top $$$ for physical features she was already born with.
VERY TRUE, but what about the sistas who um, straighten their hair &/or wear blue contact lenses?



& :
ONLY A BLACK WOMAN
Can be the mother of civilization.
ABSOLUTELY NO ARGUMENT HERE.

THIS BEING TRUE, the whole "argument" about "race"
(MORE ACCURATE WORD : E T H N I C I T Y)
OUGHT TO BE MOOT.



Then, I take a moment here to say

very honestly,
very sincerely,
very appreciatively

that I have MUCH RESPECT for Ian & his well written & well thought-out posts here, with which I do happen to agree..
namely:

- "It seems a shame to malign a couple (black guy / white woman) because of such preconceptions of the "trophy wife" etc."

- "For the record - I don't subscribe to the "melting pot" ideal - I don't want everyone to be the same, I think it's better to appreciate and respect each other's differences. However, that doesn't involve by necessity segregation and banning mixed-race marriages. Acting as if someone is a race-traitor for marrying someone of a different race is just a ludicrous position.."


& especially :
- "Also, your idea that dating outside your race is in any way "deserting" women of your own colour is absurd. If a guy with black skin and a woman with white skin love each other, what's the problem? If a black woman married me, is she "deserting" black men? People are people... like it or not the world is shrinking and interracial marriages are on the increase. My view is, if you and your woman love each other, and bring each other some comfort, companionship and happiness during this fleeting mortal existance, who the hell cares about the pigmentation of your skin. Being born with black skin doesn't come with any obligation to marry within your own race or colour - and if anything, marrying with someone from another race benefits the gene pool. Look at all the prostate cancer problems in Iceland, caused by the extremely limited gene pool."

I'll take this point 1 step further & say:
REGARDLESS of your "skin complexion", you aren't obligated to "marry within" your ethnic group!



On a regular basis I see a sista with a caucasian or an Asian man, & the only reaction I have is.. "she's got a man? GOOD for her!" Really, if that sista wasn't with her present man, there's NO guarentee that she'd be with me or whoever..

life is TOO SHORT y'all..!


Anyway-
Ian, I give you major, major props for telling it like it is.. & how it ought to be,
& Sweeny made a good point too, about not settling for the status quo.


REAL LOVE is

BIGGER

than anyone's skin complexion,

&

it's STRONGER than any evil &/or ignorant mentality in any person's mind.
I'll see you tonight..
in ALL MY DREAMS..
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