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Thread started 06/18/03 8:19am

Teacher

Friends who lie to u, how many tries do they get?

If a friend lies to me, I usually give them a second chance, dunno why but I guess I'm that stupid. If they lie again I have not, at least in the past. Now somebody did it to me again, completely needlessly mad (Yes, I consider some lies white ones) It was a lie for the sake of lying I feel, and the person shows no remorse and will not apologise. So, help me out here... is this a case of two strikes and you're out or does the person get another chance?

Jen
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Reply #1 posted 06/18/03 8:20am

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Teacher said:

If a friend lies to me, I usually give them a second chance, dunno why but I guess I'm that stupid. If they lie again I have not, at least in the past. Now somebody did it to me again, completely needlessly mad (Yes, I consider some lies white ones) It was a lie for the sake of lying I feel, and the person shows no remorse and will not apologise. So, help me out here... is this a case of two strikes and you're out or does the person get another chance?

Jen

They're fired! mad
Fear is the mind-killer.
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Reply #2 posted 06/18/03 8:22am

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Seriously, though...you'll never look at this person the same way again. The seal has been broken...it's an instant downgrade. You can work with what's left if it's a valuable friendship, but you can't hide the crack in the foundation.
Fear is the mind-killer.
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Reply #3 posted 06/18/03 8:23am

CarrieLee

Tough call.

For the most part, someone that lies to you isn't a true friend. You don't have to write them off completely, just know not to trust them and make them more of an acquaintance. It also depends how long you've been friends and what the lie was. I have a friend that I love to death, but she exaggerates so much and I know not to believe everything she says. But I don't look at is as a blantant lie to me...I just know how she is and when I catch her I point it out and she gets all embarrassed. Some people are just like that. shrug
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Reply #4 posted 06/18/03 8:25am

Teacher

CarrieLee said:

Tough call.

For the most part, someone that lies to you isn't a true friend. You don't have to write them off completely, just know not to trust them and make them more of an acquaintance. It also depends how long you've been friends and what the lie was. I have a friend that I love to death, but she exaggerates so much and I know not to believe everything she says. But I don't look at is as a blantant lie to me...I just know how she is and when I catch her I point it out and she gets all embarrassed. Some people are just like that. shrug


I wish this person would get embarrassed sigh Thank u for the advice, I think I will follow it smile
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Reply #5 posted 06/18/03 8:29am

CarrieLee

Your welcome. Good luck.
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Reply #6 posted 06/18/03 8:30am

mdiver

Once and that is it. If you trust someone and they break that trust they are not worth having as friends
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Reply #7 posted 06/18/03 8:40am

Muse2noPharaoh

teller said:

Teacher said:

If a friend lies to me, I usually give them a second chance, dunno why but I guess I'm that stupid. If they lie again I have not, at least in the past. Now somebody did it to me again, completely needlessly mad (Yes, I consider some lies white ones) It was a lie for the sake of lying I feel, and the person shows no remorse and will not apologise. So, help me out here... is this a case of two strikes and you're out or does the person get another chance?

Jen

They're fired! mad




mad FIRED!!
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Reply #8 posted 06/18/03 9:29am

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I heard this somewhere...

"Some people only find a purpose in our weaknesses, not our strengths."
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Being happy doesn't mean that everything is perfect, it means you've decided to look beyond the imperfections... unknown
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Reply #9 posted 06/18/03 9:31am

rainbowray

rainbow If you told them how they lied, maybe they would listen and feel remorse. Have you done that? Do they do it just to sabatoge themselves(build themselves up), or is it an out and out thing that you caught them at?

I usually drop people like a hot potato if it's too my face, but online who knows what's really "up"? But I'm "stupid" too. I'm learning to change that a bit to be more realistic, but it is hard to draw the line. I know how hard that is for you, as well, because you care.

Do they care about you as much as you care about about their friendship? Are they worth knowing? Maybe you should ask these questions, and can sort it out.

But look them in the eye, and say how you feel. If they lie to your face, that IS inexcusable. rainbow
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Reply #10 posted 06/18/03 9:35am

Teacher

rainbowray said:

rainbow If you told them how they lied, maybe they would listen and feel remorse. Have you done that? Do they do it just to sabatoge themselves(build themselves up), or is it an out and out thing that you caught them at?

I usually drop people like a hot potato if it's too my face, but online who knows what's really "up"? But I'm "stupid" too. I'm learning to change that a bit to be more realistic, but it is hard to draw the line. I know how hard that is for you, as well, because you care.

Do they care about you as much as you care about about their friendship? Are they worth knowing? Maybe you should ask these questions, and can sort it out.

But look them in the eye, and say how you feel. If they lie to your face, that IS inexcusable. rainbow


Yeah, thank u for the advice. I have been asking others as well lately, how I lied to them cos they accused me of lying, but I did not get an answer sad 'Tis the same thing here, I get no answer. TY for your input though rose

Jen
Fuck, I had to edit cos I didn't proof read again err
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Reply #11 posted 06/18/03 9:40am

ian

Well, I'd ditch 'em.

Fuck it, life is too short to spend your free time with people you distrust or who are insincere.
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Reply #12 posted 06/18/03 10:01am

rainbowray

I have been asking others as well lately, how I lied to them cos they accused me of lying, but I did not get an answer sad


rainbow Shoulda read those emails! U still rock. rainbow
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Reply #13 posted 06/18/03 10:04am

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If you come into my hmoe or life, don't lie or steal from me or it's curtains. stab
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Reply #14 posted 06/18/03 10:06am

Paisley

Try to forgive them.
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Reply #15 posted 06/18/03 10:09am

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Paisley said:

Try to forgive them.





Some people just trust way too much!
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Reply #16 posted 06/18/03 11:15am

REDFEATHERS

ian said:

Well, I'd ditch 'em.

Fuck it, life is too short to spend your free time with people you distrust or who are insincere.


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Reply #17 posted 06/18/03 11:30am

CAMILLE4U

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Teacher said:

If a friend lies to me, I usually give them a second chance, dunno why but I guess I'm that stupid. If they lie again I have not, at least in the past. Now somebody did it to me again, completely needlessly mad (Yes, I consider some lies white ones) It was a lie for the sake of lying I feel, and the person shows no remorse and will not apologise. So, help me out here... is this a case of two strikes and you're out or does the person get another chance?

Jen


What exactly did they lie about? (If U don't mind me asking)
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Reply #18 posted 06/18/03 11:32am

imnotsayinthis
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if you can't trust a friend, who can you trust? sometimes things can get misconstrued as a lie but i'm assuming that is not the case here. get an aswer first as to why the li was told then decide.
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Reply #19 posted 06/18/03 2:25pm

Teacher

CAMILLE4U said:

Teacher said:

If a friend lies to me, I usually give them a second chance, dunno why but I guess I'm that stupid. If they lie again I have not, at least in the past. Now somebody did it to me again, completely needlessly mad (Yes, I consider some lies white ones) It was a lie for the sake of lying I feel, and the person shows no remorse and will not apologise. So, help me out here... is this a case of two strikes and you're out or does the person get another chance?

Jen


What exactly did they lie about? (If U don't mind me asking)


Well, like this. I met this person that my (ex)friend met before, and this person was then introduced as a relative of my friend. It made sense as far as background and things, so I thought nothing of it...till I learned that they were not blood, or "married-in" relatives of any kind... see my point, why lie about such a thing? confuse

Aaaaaarrrrrggggghhhhh, I gotta learn to fucking proof read!!! pissed
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Reply #20 posted 06/18/03 2:27pm

Teacher

imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said:

if you can't trust a friend, who can you trust? sometimes things can get misconstrued as a lie but i'm assuming that is not the case here. get an aswer first as to why the li was told then decide.


The answer was this:

That was just the way it came out

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Reply #21 posted 06/18/03 2:47pm

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It really depends on the lie, and on how much you know and care about the person.

I usually trust most people to a level that their lies don't affect my life. If it becomes a closer friendship, that means more, then when I catch them lie, I'll set them back to the lower level, and let them work hard on building my trust in them again.

I don't ditch anyone. I keep in touch almost always.
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Reply #22 posted 06/18/03 2:56pm

monkeypox

Do friends lie?
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Reply #23 posted 06/18/03 3:16pm

XxAxX

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betrayal of trust comes in all shapes and sizes. . . i tend to try and give people the benefit of the doubt/another chance(s). but, when it becomes apparent that the person who has betrayed me did so knowingly and maliciously then i DROP them
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Reply #24 posted 06/18/03 4:20pm

Teacher

Decision made, thank u all for your input rose
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Reply #25 posted 06/18/03 10:08pm

Paisley

pejman said:

Paisley said:

Try to forgive them.





Some people just trust way too much!

There's nothing wrong with that.
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Reply #26 posted 06/19/03 5:16am

lillith

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very touchy subject...

its hard when someone close to you deceives you in any manner...large lie or small...its very difficult to trust them again, and really what is ANY type of relationship without trust. talk to them...try and figure out their motive for the lie.

if you want to save the relationship, great...but you have to be sure they want to as well. and trying to get them to talk about it could prove difficult, they may feel guilty for what was done or maybe they just want to put it behind them. i've been tryin' to sort things out with a friend of mine for about a year now...still waitin' for the conversatition...i'm about to the point of giving up. so i can understand what you're going thru.

good luck.

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