independent and unofficial
Prince fan community
Welcome! Sign up or enter username and password to remember me
Forum jump
Forums > General Discussion > "I'm Gonna Give You A Black Eye"
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Page 1 of 2 12>
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
Author

Tweet     Share

Message
Thread started 05/21/03 5:57am

AzureStar

"I'm Gonna Give You A Black Eye"

Okay, so my son tells me this morning that a kid, Ricky, at school told him he's going to give him a black eye. This Ricky kid already gave another kid two black eyes. So, I asked my son why he was going to do this... my son said because he won't do what Ricky wants him to do to get into trouble. And that he was okay with that... so...

What do I tell my son to do? Do I tell him to hit Ricky back? Or... what?
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1 posted 05/21/03 6:03am

IceNine

avatar

Don't tell him to hit the kid... you don't want to reinforce that kind of behavior. Have him tell his teacher about the kid and have them handle it... or you could tell the teacher yourself.
SUPERJOINT RITUAL - http://www.superjointritual.com
A Lethal Dose of American Hatred
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #2 posted 05/21/03 6:15am

AzureStar

IceNine said:

Don't tell him to hit the kid... you don't want to reinforce that kind of behavior. Have him tell his teacher about the kid and have them handle it... or you could tell the teacher yourself.


Well, that's what he said he was going to do... he was going to tell the teacher... but AFTER it happened. The thing is... I don't think he really knew that it may hurt. He was making light of it.

My telling the teacher myself may just make it worse... and it really won't prevent it, you know? I guess the other kid was given his out on the playground. They way my son talks about it is like it's a gift... eek

Colin isn't worried about it, it doesn't seem... so I don't want to talk to him too much about it... I think I'm more upset and worried about it than him. I don't want him coming home with a black eye... that would kill me. sad
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #3 posted 05/21/03 6:17am

Cloudbuster

avatar

Just punch the kid in the face and tell him to bollocks. wink
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #4 posted 05/21/03 6:20am

CarrieLee

I think you need to call the school Azure. I'd rather have them be aware of this kid's behavior than have your kid suffer and get a black eye.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #5 posted 05/21/03 6:23am

HerRoyalBadnes
s

Make your son understand that this Ricky ain't his master, he doesn't have the right to tell him what he has to do!
And try to call Rickys parents or something.
If that doesn't work, U go and give RICKY a black eye! lol
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #6 posted 05/21/03 6:25am

AzureStar

Cloudbuster said:

Just punch the kid in the face and tell him to bollocks. wink


lol
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #7 posted 05/21/03 6:31am

AzureStar

CarrieLee said:

I think you need to call the school Azure. I'd rather have them be aware of this kid's behavior than have your kid suffer and get a black eye.


Ugh... I promised myself I would never be a parent like that... I mean, I know what you and Tony are saying, but, I don't know. I can't protect him all the time, you know? Even though I want to, and I remember being in school and if word got out that your parents called about something like this, it only made it worse on the kid.

I've tried looking at it from all sides; my calling and my telling him to hit him back as hard as he can. What I don't want is to protect him so much that he can't fight his own battles... because I am sure this is going to go on for many years while he's in school, that's what boys do... but, at the same time, I don't want him getting punched in the face, either.

I really don't want to get in the middle, if that makes any sense to anyone out there. This kid told him this last week, apparently, and I just now heard about it. I don't know what is right... and I thought of maybe just letting Colin handle it himself, since, obviously he didn't think it was important enough to tell me about it when he first heard.

Grrr...
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #8 posted 05/21/03 6:32am

AzureStar

HerRoyalBadness said:

Make your son understand that this Ricky ain't his master, he doesn't have the right to tell him what he has to do!
And try to call Rickys parents or something.
If that doesn't work, U go and give RICKY a black eye! lol


My son knows that... finally. That's why Ricky threatened him I think. He used to be buddies with Ricky and this other kid, Austin... but I told my son to stop doing what they do, because he kept getting into trouble. Now that he doesn't do what they want... this is what happens.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #9 posted 05/21/03 6:38am

CarrieLee

AzureStar said:

CarrieLee said:

I think you need to call the school Azure. I'd rather have them be aware of this kid's behavior than have your kid suffer and get a black eye.


Ugh... I promised myself I would never be a parent like that... I mean, I know what you and Tony are saying, but, I don't know. I can't protect him all the time, you know? Even though I want to, and I remember being in school and if word got out that your parents called about something like this, it only made it worse on the kid.

I've tried looking at it from all sides; my calling and my telling him to hit him back as hard as he can. What I don't want is to protect him so much that he can't fight his own battles... because I am sure this is going to go on for many years while he's in school, that's what boys do... but, at the same time, I don't want him getting punched in the face, either.

I really don't want to get in the middle, if that makes any sense to anyone out there. This kid told him this last week, apparently, and I just now heard about it. I don't know what is right... and I thought of maybe just letting Colin handle it himself, since, obviously he didn't think it was important enough to tell me about it when he first heard.

Grrr...



I know what you mean. First off, how old is your kid? If it's elementary school then who cares if you call. I just think that if he comes home crying with a black eye you may feel bad for not trying to stop it, ya know?
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #10 posted 05/21/03 6:39am

AzureStar

CarrieLee said:

AzureStar said:

CarrieLee said:

I think you need to call the school Azure. I'd rather have them be aware of this kid's behavior than have your kid suffer and get a black eye.


Ugh... I promised myself I would never be a parent like that... I mean, I know what you and Tony are saying, but, I don't know. I can't protect him all the time, you know? Even though I want to, and I remember being in school and if word got out that your parents called about something like this, it only made it worse on the kid.

I've tried looking at it from all sides; my calling and my telling him to hit him back as hard as he can. What I don't want is to protect him so much that he can't fight his own battles... because I am sure this is going to go on for many years while he's in school, that's what boys do... but, at the same time, I don't want him getting punched in the face, either.

I really don't want to get in the middle, if that makes any sense to anyone out there. This kid told him this last week, apparently, and I just now heard about it. I don't know what is right... and I thought of maybe just letting Colin handle it himself, since, obviously he didn't think it was important enough to tell me about it when he first heard.

Grrr...



I know what you mean. First off, how old is your kid? If it's elementary school then who cares if you call. I just think that if he comes home crying with a black eye you may feel bad for not trying to stop it, ya know?


He's six...I know... I know what you're saying. Grrr... sometimes I hate being a parent.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #11 posted 05/21/03 6:40am

IceNine

avatar

It all comes down to this:

You do not want to teach your son that violence is the solution to problems.
SUPERJOINT RITUAL - http://www.superjointritual.com
A Lethal Dose of American Hatred
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #12 posted 05/21/03 6:45am

applekisses

IceNine said:

It all comes down to this:

You do not want to teach your son that violence is the solution to problems.


No, but he has to be able to stand up for himself and defend himself if he's ever attacked. I would first tell Colin to tell the kid that that they should just try to be friends and that if he even tries to give him a black eye he's going to get in big trouble. If that doesn't work, I'd call the school. You have to give him a chance to stand up for himself first.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #13 posted 05/21/03 6:50am

CarrieLee

This is what I'd do. I'd call the school so that they are aware of it. If this little shit is warned and is still threatening to give black eyes then teach your kid how to give a nasty left hook. 2 wrongs don't make a right, but if you do the right thing first and it doesn't work then it's time to take matters into your own hands!
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #14 posted 05/21/03 6:50am

IceNine

avatar

applekisses said:

IceNine said:

It all comes down to this:

You do not want to teach your son that violence is the solution to problems.


No, but he has to be able to stand up for himself and defend himself if he's ever attacked. I would first tell Colin to tell the kid that that they should just try to be friends and that if he even tries to give him a black eye he's going to get in big trouble. If that doesn't work, I'd call the school. You have to give him a chance to stand up for himself first.


My opinion is that you shouldn't tell them to hit anyone else and I think that your idea is really good. He should stand up for himself but he shouldn't hit anyone.
SUPERJOINT RITUAL - http://www.superjointritual.com
A Lethal Dose of American Hatred
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #15 posted 05/21/03 6:52am

wellbeyond

Teach yer kid that Mr. Spock Vulcan shoulder-pinch thingamajigger...

Problem solved... 8)
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #16 posted 05/21/03 6:53am

CAMILLE4U

avatar

Damn, now that is a problem. Have you ever seen the film Scum? I reckon you should go up to this kid yourself with a chair leg and say "Hi, I'm the Greenhouse effect".

He sounds like a right little prick to me. Do you live in the UK. If so I'll kidnap him 4 U. 'See how many wine bottles I can fill with his blood.
NOTE: THIS ACCOUNT IS NOW CLOSED. PLEASE CONTACT “K A M eye L L E
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #17 posted 05/21/03 7:07am

applekisses

IceNine said:

applekisses said:

IceNine said:

It all comes down to this:

You do not want to teach your son that violence is the solution to problems.


No, but he has to be able to stand up for himself and defend himself if he's ever attacked. I would first tell Colin to tell the kid that that they should just try to be friends and that if he even tries to give him a black eye he's going to get in big trouble. If that doesn't work, I'd call the school. You have to give him a chance to stand up for himself first.


My opinion is that you shouldn't tell them to hit anyone else and I think that your idea is really good. He should stand up for himself but he shouldn't hit anyone.


Thanks smile I think it's a good idea too.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #18 posted 05/21/03 7:13am

ian

I think you could explain to your son that although hitting people is not acceptable, self-defence is and sometimes it is important to stand up for yourself.

If I have kids someday, I'll teach them to fight their own battles and to stick up for themselves. It's one thing to tell your kids that violence is wrong, but school is school and it's important that kids learn that sometimes in life you will encounter violent people and need to defend yourself.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #19 posted 05/21/03 7:18am

IceNine

avatar

ian said:

I think you could explain to your son that although hitting people is not acceptable, self-defence is and sometimes it is important to stand up for yourself.

If I have kids someday, I'll teach them to fight their own battles and to stick up for themselves. It's one thing to tell your kids that violence is wrong, but school is school and it's important that kids learn that sometimes in life you will encounter violent people and need to defend yourself.


Right, right... self-defense is different than starting it. I would agree... but with little kids, I would like to see them try have the teacher help with the situation.

Who am I to talk, I got in tons of fights as a kid and young adult... you live, you learn.

biggrin
SUPERJOINT RITUAL - http://www.superjointritual.com
A Lethal Dose of American Hatred
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #20 posted 05/21/03 8:00am

sag10

avatar

ian said:

I think you could explain to your son that although hitting people is not acceptable, self-defence is and sometimes it is important to stand up for yourself.

If I have kids someday, I'll teach them to fight their own battles and to stick up for themselves. It's one thing to tell your kids that violence is wrong, but school is school and it's important that kids learn that sometimes in life you will encounter violent people and need to defend yourself.


Yes, this would be my answer as well..
^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^
Being happy doesn't mean that everything is perfect, it means you've decided to look beyond the imperfections... unknown
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #21 posted 05/21/03 9:02am

applekisses

sag10 said:

ian said:

I think you could explain to your son that although hitting people is not acceptable, self-defence is and sometimes it is important to stand up for yourself.

If I have kids someday, I'll teach them to fight their own battles and to stick up for themselves. It's one thing to tell your kids that violence is wrong, but school is school and it's important that kids learn that sometimes in life you will encounter violent people and need to defend yourself.


Yes, this would be my answer as well..


It's such an important part of self-worth.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #22 posted 05/21/03 9:08am

pejman

avatar

BULLY's SUCK... but Ice is right violence isn't the solution...talk to the teacher or the principal.
-------------------------------------------------





MENACE TO SOBRIETY drink
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #23 posted 05/21/03 9:11am

matt

Sr. Moderator

moderator

IceNine said:

You do not want to teach your son that violence is the solution to problems.


Under today's zero intelligence, erm, "zero tolerance" school policies, don't some schools report fights and other physical attacks to the cops as a battery?
Please note: effective March 21, 2010, I've stepped down from my prince.org Moderator position.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #24 posted 05/21/03 9:19am

IceNine

avatar

matt said:

IceNine said:

You do not want to teach your son that violence is the solution to problems.


Under today's zero intelligence, erm, "zero tolerance" school policies, don't some schools report fights and other physical attacks to the cops as a battery?


I would expect that they do now... school violence is publicized pretty heavily, so they want to make the show that they are trying to keep a handle on it.
SUPERJOINT RITUAL - http://www.superjointritual.com
A Lethal Dose of American Hatred
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #25 posted 05/21/03 9:20am

applekisses

matt said:

IceNine said:

You do not want to teach your son that violence is the solution to problems.


Under today's zero intelligence, erm, "zero tolerance" school policies, don't some schools report fights and other physical attacks to the cops as a battery?


Yes, they do. Also some schools see a peck on the cheek between 5-year-olds as sexual assult.
rolleyes
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #26 posted 05/21/03 9:20am

IceNine

avatar

applekisses said:

matt said:

IceNine said:

You do not want to teach your son that violence is the solution to problems.


Under today's zero intelligence, erm, "zero tolerance" school policies, don't some schools report fights and other physical attacks to the cops as a battery?


Yes, they do. Also some schools see a peck on the cheek between 5-year-olds as sexual assult.
rolleyes


I have heard about the "peck on the cheek" thing before... that is really fucking stupid.
SUPERJOINT RITUAL - http://www.superjointritual.com
A Lethal Dose of American Hatred
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #27 posted 05/21/03 9:21am

applekisses

IceNine said:

applekisses said:

matt said:

IceNine said:

You do not want to teach your son that violence is the solution to problems.


Under today's zero intelligence, erm, "zero tolerance" school policies, don't some schools report fights and other physical attacks to the cops as a battery?


Yes, they do. Also some schools see a peck on the cheek between 5-year-olds as sexual assult.
rolleyes


I have heard about the "peck on the cheek" thing before... that is really fucking stupid.


It really pissed me off...that poor little boy is going to grow up thinking that he's some kind of pervert. evil
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #28 posted 05/21/03 9:29am

sag10

avatar

applekisses said:

IceNine said:

applekisses said:

matt said:

IceNine said:

You do not want to teach your son that violence is the solution to problems.


Under today's zero intelligence, erm, "zero tolerance" school policies, don't some schools report fights and other physical attacks to the cops as a battery?


Yes, they do. Also some schools see a peck on the cheek between 5-year-olds as sexual assult.
rolleyes


I have heard about the "peck on the cheek" thing before... that is really fucking stupid.


It really pissed me off...that poor little boy is going to grow up thinking that he's some kind of pervert. evil


I remember reading about this.. It was a couple of years ago...
^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^
Being happy doesn't mean that everything is perfect, it means you've decided to look beyond the imperfections... unknown
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #29 posted 05/21/03 12:52pm

matt

Sr. Moderator

moderator

applekisses said:

matt said:


Under today's zero intelligence, erm, "zero tolerance" school policies, don't some schools report fights and other physical attacks to the cops as a battery?


Yes, they do. Also some schools see a peck on the cheek between 5-year-olds as sexual assult.
rolleyes


I remember giving someone two Advils for a headache in high school... I'll bet that could result in expulsion for "drug trafficking."
Please note: effective March 21, 2010, I've stepped down from my prince.org Moderator position.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Page 1 of 2 12>
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Forums > General Discussion > "I'm Gonna Give You A Black Eye"