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Thread started 05/11/03 8:54pm

Muse2noPharaoh

What I have learned....

People,
Move on with your lives. Get in where you fit in. Love someone who loves you. Don't falsely blame others for the love that is not there for you. Don't waste your time and passion on a project, man, woman, or thing that isn't yours to have anyway. You only delay your own development. you stall the love that is yours to have in this world. You jade yourselves and then blame the world and even God for the misfortune you yourself have cast upon you. letting go and being at peace seems harder but in fact it is so much less effort then the pretense we often hold ourselves slave to.
If I have learned one lesson well in this life it is this: To hate another is a great amount of energy that destroys not the individual in question (albeit they deserve it or not ) but you! It eats away at the core of you destroys your character. Though the world may hold your hand and soothe your wound ... they cannot in fact alleviate the pain and rage that cries within. Only you can do this. Move on, let go. Your cause is then better served. The cause of you!

Personalization disclaimer and reality check:
If you think this song is about you Get over it! It is not!!! If it strikes at the core of you then I suppose you should consider it a lesson not only I needed.
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Reply #1 posted 05/11/03 8:57pm

luv4thepurple1

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Thank you Muse! hug
He calls me "Holi" cuz he says everyday w/ me is like a Holiday...
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Reply #2 posted 05/11/03 9:01pm

Paisley

That's very nice.
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Reply #3 posted 05/11/03 9:03pm

NovaAngel

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Damn. Hit the nail on the head.
"I ordered no broth! Away with ye lest my cane find your backside!!"- Ralph Wiggum, Actor.
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Reply #4 posted 05/11/03 9:04pm

Muse2noPharaoh

eek See? I am not all fun and silly.. every once in a great while I really sit and think! eek Scary isn't it?
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Reply #5 posted 05/11/03 9:05pm

Paisley

Muse2noPharaoh said:

eek See? I am not all fun and silly.. every once in a great while I really sit and think! eek Scary isn't it?

nod nod
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Reply #6 posted 05/11/03 9:06pm

REDFEATHERS

Muse2noPharaoh said:

eek See? I am not all fun and silly.. every once in a great while I really sit and think! eek Scary isn't it?



big grin Not at all scary Muse.

Alot of words of wisdom there. flower
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Reply #7 posted 05/11/03 9:41pm

wellbeyond

worship Muse worship

I don't know what sparked the thoughts you wrote, but they are 1,000% insightful... nod
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Reply #8 posted 05/11/03 9:42pm

Muse2noPharaoh

Fear not! I rarely have these moments. lol
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Reply #9 posted 05/11/03 9:44pm

Muse2noPharaoh

whofarted You do believe me don't you?


:LOL:
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Reply #10 posted 05/11/03 9:50pm

Sdldawn

yeah thanks, I've been havin some problems lately, and that gave me a little light on the subject..


Thanks again with much love in my heart.
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Reply #11 posted 05/11/03 9:58pm

pejman

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Muse2noPharaoh said:

eek See? I am not all fun and silly.. every once in a great while I really sit and think! eek Scary isn't it?




yes no maybe so nod but you make great sense!
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MENACE TO SOBRIETY drink
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Reply #12 posted 05/11/03 10:04pm

Muse2noPharaoh

Sdldawn said:

yeah thanks, I've been havin some problems lately, and that gave me a little light on the subject..


Thanks again with much love in my heart.


For me, I spent years hating my X mother in law. (Being mothers day it all came up at my families home.)

LONG TO SHORT:

She assumed my identity
created 10,000 in debt
I almost lost the house that was being built for me and the 10,000 non refundable for building out of sequence
I did loose my child in the forth month of pregnancy
Darkness took over and love flew the coup.
The choices were mine...
Did I have every reason to hate the demon ?
YES!!!
Was it worth it to choose the path of hate?
NO!
Did my misspent emotion make her life the hell I felt she deserved?
NO!
Did it bring my baby back?
NO!!

It did jade the hell out of me and cause my once loving disposition to go all out the window. 7 years later I am barely coming to a point of reconciliation. She was due to get her payback regardless of how I felt. What a huge waste of time energy and health that was!


Was it her fault that I went down the road I did? NO!
She was just acting as she was. I made the choices.
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Reply #13 posted 05/11/03 10:17pm

Muse2noPharaoh

Woah! eek It just came to my attention that this came off really heavy! Well I suppose it is or was! This was years ago now. I have 2 beautiful children. I used the example only to say I am not coming off the cuff here. I know the subject matter fairly well. No drama here! Im cool as a cucumber.

If I could keep one person from choosing the path of hate then it is worth the sharing. Hate is a long dark path that effects every part of your being. It is not a journey worth the taking!
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Reply #14 posted 05/11/03 10:23pm

althom

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Muse2noPharaoh said:

Woah! eek It just came to my attention that this came off really heavy! Well I suppose it is or was! This was years ago now. I have 2 beautiful children. I used the example only to say I am not coming off the cuff here. I know the subject matter fairly well. No drama here! Im cool as a cucumber.

If I could keep one person from choosing the path of hate then it is worth the sharing. Hate is a long dark path that effects every part of your being. It is not a journey worth the taking!

hug kisses
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Reply #15 posted 05/11/03 10:24pm

Muse2noPharaoh

althom said:

Muse2noPharaoh said:

Woah! eek It just came to my attention that this came off really heavy! Well I suppose it is or was! This was years ago now. I have 2 beautiful children. I used the example only to say I am not coming off the cuff here. I know the subject matter fairly well. No drama here! Im cool as a cucumber.

If I could keep one person from choosing the path of hate then it is worth the sharing. Hate is a long dark path that effects every part of your being. It is not a journey worth the taking!

hug kisses



Thank you! hug :sla... aww never mind! hug
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Reply #16 posted 05/11/03 10:26pm

althom

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Muse2noPharaoh said:


Thank you! hug :sla... aww never mind! hug

lol
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Reply #17 posted 05/12/03 1:38am

JDINTERACTIVE

Muse2noPharaoh said:

People,
Move on with your lives. Get in where you fit in. Love someone who loves you. Don't falsely blame others for the love that is not there for you. Don't waste your time and passion on a project, man, woman, or thing that isn't yours to have anyway. You only delay your own development. you stall the love that is yours to have in this world. You jade yourselves and then blame the world and even God for the misfortune you yourself have cast upon you. letting go and being at peace seems harder but in fact it is so much less effort then the pretense we often hold ourselves slave to.
If I have learned one lesson well in this life it is this: To hate another is a great amount of energy that destroys not the individual in question (albeit they deserve it or not ) but you! It eats away at the core of you destroys your character. Though the world may hold your hand and soothe your wound ... they cannot in fact alleviate the pain and rage that cries within. Only you can do this. Move on, let go. Your cause is then better served. The cause of you!

Personalization disclaimer and reality check:
If you think this song is about you Get over it! It is not!!! If it strikes at the core of you then I suppose you should consider it a lesson not only I needed.


U know what Muse, thats true, very true.
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Reply #18 posted 05/12/03 1:40am

Christopher

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Muse2noPharaoh said:

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Be my Romeo
Tell me all about your love
Tell me all about your pain
Baited breath and rubber gloves
Be my Romeo
My go-go Romeo
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Reply #19 posted 05/12/03 1:44am

Natsume

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Christopher said:

Muse2noPharaoh said:

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Be my Romeo
Tell me all about your love
Tell me all about your pain
Baited breath and rubber gloves
Be my Romeo
My go-go Romeo

You two timing bastid!

fight
I mean, like, where is the sun?
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Reply #20 posted 05/12/03 1:48am

Christopher

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Natsume said:

Christopher said:

Muse2noPharaoh said:

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Be my Romeo
Tell me all about your love
Tell me all about your pain
Baited breath and rubber gloves
Be my Romeo
My go-go Romeo

You two timing bastid!

fight



should i have given muse some spice girls lyrics instead

power to the world spice up ya life...
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Reply #21 posted 05/12/03 5:24am

AzureStar

I see what you're saying and I'm happy that you've learned this for yourself. And, I agree that feelings of hate do tear you up... I've seen it.

Me? Well, I go the route of not hating, but removing said person/people from my life. No mention of them, no energy spent on them, basically as if they've never existed in my life and I move on. I have only ever been this drastic with two people in my life. Others, well, instead of hating them, I simply lose any respect that I once had for them and I don't dwell on the hate, because it isn't there. There just isn't any respect. I don't think I've actually ever hated another person. I may have hated things that they have said or done, and may have removed them from my life or simply not spent energy on going out of my way to be kind, but no one has brought me to actually hate them... yet. Well, other than me... but, I can't hardly tell myself to go away from me, can I? smile

As far as the love stuff goes. I won't be wasting my time on that as far as I go. I will allow another to love me, and I will be true to that person, but it takes too much out of me to give that to another and it's not a risk that I want to take... with the exception of my children, my mom and my grandma. Are there underlying issues that cause me to have done this my whole life? Perhaps, but I'm not all about trying to dig to the core of it... I'll just do what I know and what works for me.



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[This message was edited Mon May 12 5:26:15 PDT 2003 by AzureStar]
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Reply #22 posted 05/12/03 5:39am

JDINTERACTIVE

AzureStar said:

I see what you're saying and I'm happy that you've learned this for yourself. And, I agree that feelings of hate do tear you up... I've seen it.

Me? Well, I go the route of not hating, but removing said person/people from my life. No mention of them, no energy spent on them, basically as if they've never existed in my life and I move on. I have only ever been this drastic with two people in my life. Others, well, instead of hating them, I simply lose any respect that I once had for them and I don't dwell on the hate, because it isn't there. There just isn't any respect. I don't think I've actually ever hated another person. I may have hated things that they have said or done, and may have removed them from my life or simply not spent energy on going out of my way to be kind, but no one has brought me to actually hate them... yet. Well, other than me... but, I can't hardly tell myself to go away from me, can I? smile

As far as the love stuff goes. I won't be wasting my time on that as far as I go. I will allow another to love me, and I will be true to that person, but it takes too much out of me to give that to another and it's not a risk that I want to take... with the exception of my children, my mom and my grandma. Are there underlying issues that cause me to have done this my whole life? Perhaps, but I'm not all about trying to dig to the core of it... I'll just do what I know and what works for me.



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ThankU AzureStar, its as if U've been reading my thoughts. sad
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Reply #23 posted 05/12/03 5:41am

Heavenly

True, it's hard to move on.
I don't lose my feelings to anyone. the feelings I have for anyone, whether I like them, love them, or just respect them, I don't lose it because a relationship is over, because those feelings were real, and those people haven't changed, it's just that it didn't work out. so I still love, like or respect those people, and always will.

Moving on? it's easy to say, hard to do. These people were a part of your life, and you need to change your life in order to move on. chnaging your life needs a lot of strength, and unless you WANT to and willing to go the extra mile to change it, it's very difficult, because most of the time you have the strength to change your life for a good thing, and not to get away from what you feel that might have been a good thing.
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Reply #24 posted 05/12/03 5:46am

JDINTERACTIVE

AzureStar, Muse, Heavenly.. what U've said on this thread I have found moving and has given me a lot 2 think about. As this is something that's making me sad at the present but know I can change in the future. Nor do I hate any1. I cant make people change, I can only change myself which I know and will do. ThankU, much heart 2 U all.
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Reply #25 posted 05/12/03 6:20am

AzureStar

JDINTERACTIVE said:

AzureStar said:

I see what you're saying and I'm happy that you've learned this for yourself. And, I agree that feelings of hate do tear you up... I've seen it.

Me? Well, I go the route of not hating, but removing said person/people from my life. No mention of them, no energy spent on them, basically as if they've never existed in my life and I move on. I have only ever been this drastic with two people in my life. Others, well, instead of hating them, I simply lose any respect that I once had for them and I don't dwell on the hate, because it isn't there. There just isn't any respect. I don't think I've actually ever hated another person. I may have hated things that they have said or done, and may have removed them from my life or simply not spent energy on going out of my way to be kind, but no one has brought me to actually hate them... yet. Well, other than me... but, I can't hardly tell myself to go away from me, can I? smile

As far as the love stuff goes. I won't be wasting my time on that as far as I go. I will allow another to love me, and I will be true to that person, but it takes too much out of me to give that to another and it's not a risk that I want to take... with the exception of my children, my mom and my grandma. Are there underlying issues that cause me to have done this my whole life? Perhaps, but I'm not all about trying to dig to the core of it... I'll just do what I know and what works for me.



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ThankU AzureStar, its as if U've been reading my thoughts. sad


Then, you realize, now, that you are not alone in them. smile

I hope you move through, whatever it is that you are going through right now, with ease. And, you're right, we can't make people change, however, we can choose to remove ourselves from the situation or choose to remove ourselves from them... even if for a period of time to allow ourselves to heal. Many times that is easier said than done; it all depends on what your "weak spot" is and what you're breaking point is.

One thing I have learned is that there are not many things in this world that another can "do" to us, without our allowing them to. We make the choice. No one else can do it for us.
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Reply #26 posted 05/12/03 6:33am

Christopher

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AzureStar said:

it.

Me? Well, I go the route of not hating, but removing said person/people from my life. No mention of them, no energy spent on them, basically as if they've never existed in my life and I move on.



how long did it take for you to get to that point tho? (as far as did it happen with theyrs or has that always been part of your person)
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Reply #27 posted 05/12/03 6:39am

AzureStar

Christopher said:

AzureStar said:

it.

Me? Well, I go the route of not hating, but removing said person/people from my life. No mention of them, no energy spent on them, basically as if they've never existed in my life and I move on.



how long did it take for you to get to that point tho? (as far as did it happen with theyrs or has that always been part of your person)


How long did it take me to remove them completely from my life? Well, one it didn't take much for me to do that (meaning I didn't continue to give them time for me to gain respect or trust back)... the other, it took me quite a while, years, to finally remove them.

This has always been a part of me. This is what I do. I've done it as a child right up until now. So, really, there have been more than two, but these two are the only people that really, at one time, meant a lot to me. But, yeah, this is my nature...

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Reply #28 posted 05/12/03 6:40am

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Muse2noPharaoh said:

If I have learned one lesson well in this life it is this: To hate another is a great amount of energy that destroys not the individual in question (albeit they deserve it or not ) but you! It eats away at the core of you destroys your character. Though the world may hold your hand and soothe your wound ... they cannot in fact alleviate the pain and rage that cries within. Only you can do this. Move on, let go. Your cause is then better served. The cause of you!



SO true... 1000 hugs girl hug
heart prince I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it prince heart
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Reply #29 posted 05/12/03 6:44am

REDFEATHERS

Heavenly said:

True, it's hard to move on.
I don't lose my feelings to anyone. the feelings I have for anyone, whether I like them, love them, or just respect them, I don't lose it because a relationship is over, because those feelings were real, and those people haven't changed, it's just that it didn't work out. so I still love, like or respect those people, and always will.

Moving on? it's easy to say, hard to do. These people were a part of your life, and you need to change your life in order to move on. chnaging your life needs a lot of strength, and unless you WANT to and willing to go the extra mile to change it, it's very difficult, because most of the time you have the strength to change your life for a good thing, and not to get away from what you feel that might have been a good thing.



highfive Much Love Heavenly heart heart heart
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