ShellyMcG said:

Kicking things off, I'll ask a question I've been unable to find an answer to elsewhere. So, I've been looking at watching the animated shows, starting with the critically acclaimed Clone Wars show. However, I read that there's a movie of The Clone Wars which sort of acts like a "pilot" for the show. But unlike the series, the movie got a bit of a kicking from critics and is generally considered to be the worst movie in the whole franchise. My question is, is the movie worth watching or could I skip it and go straight into the show? Would I be missing out on anything important?

Watch it. Are you talking about Attack of the Clones??? I liked it. My pick for worse Star Wars movie is the Phatom Menace. Never seen the animated series because I just don't like the animation.

kpowers said:

ShellyMcG said:

FragileUndertow said:

The Mandalorian : Season 3

I'm enjoying it, though it's not perfect

The star studded cameos. Jack black, Lizzo. Anyone can be in Star Wars now

It's a bit odd how the series jumps characters and story lines. I know they are intertwining.

Grogu is still cute. A bit stiff at times.
When is he going to say his first word.


I read there is a new Ahsoka trailer out. I've yet to watch.
Read it will be 8 episodes. It should be interesting

I also heard they have 3 new movies in the works

I like the concept of it all but most of the movies aren't really that super spectacular except The Empire Stikes Back, which is a total masterpiece.

I like the modern gen reclaiming the prequels and rating them higher in retrospect.

I maintain Phantom Menance was the only truly awful one in the prequels. As a kid I starting nodding off to that 20 minute stupid podrace. Return of the Jedi is pretty bad, too.

George Lucas really had a vision though, even if he didn't excel at all aspects of film in every go round.

The worlds and universe stuff... You can see with the Disney sequel trilogy that he was just on a higher plane with that shit, it just oozed out of him.

WhisperingDandelions said:

ShellyMcG said:

WhisperingDandelions said:

I like the concept of it all but most of the movies aren't really that super spectacular except The Empire Stikes Back, which is a total masterpiece.

I like the modern gen reclaiming the prequels and rating them higher in retrospect.

I maintain Phantom Menance was the only truly awful one in the prequels. As a kid I starting nodding off to that 20 minute stupid podrace. Return of the Jedi is pretty bad, too.

George Lucas really had a vision though, even if he didn't excel at all aspects of film in every go round.

The worlds and universe stuff... You can see with the Disney sequel trilogy that he was just on a higher plane with that shit, it just oozed out of him.

The "sequel trilogy" was just rushed, I think. It kind of reminds me of that Jeff Goldblum line from Jurassic Park. They were so focused on whether they could that they never stopped to think whether they should. I don't hate any of the movies, for what it's worth. Some are definitely better than others though. And it hasn't been a total loss since Disney took over. The Mandalorian is a fantastic show. Rogue One and Andor are probably my favourite Star Wars things ever. I loved the Kenobi show too. And Ashoka looks like it's going to be really good if that trailer is anything to go by.

Well even the bad ones I don't "hate", they're just either boring or cheesy and not great in the grand scheme of Star Wars, but they're definitely all interesting/creative on some level.

Yeah people rave about that other stuff but I only bothered with the main chronology theatrical stuff.

Loved Last Jedi, thoroughly enjoyed Force Awakens like everyone else did before people went HAM internet critic on it, but they're all very disjointed from one another tonally and Last Jedi has that grandiose weird multi-level ending that made me not feel the need to see the 3rd, which people seem to hate anyway. Also neither feel as "big" as Lucas' Star Wars. Star Battles, they forgot the Wars.

And actually I think I'm ashamed to admit Attack of the Clones was pretty damn good, too. That romance is supposed to be cringe, he's Vader, yo. Revenge of the Sith is my second fav. after Empire.

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ShellyMcG said:

WhisperingDandelions said:

I like the concept of it all but most of the movies aren't really that super spectacular except The Empire Stikes Back, which is a total masterpiece.

I like the modern gen reclaiming the prequels and rating them higher in retrospect.

I maintain Phantom Menance was the only truly awful one in the prequels. As a kid I starting nodding off to that 20 minute stupid podrace. Return of the Jedi is pretty bad, too.

George Lucas really had a vision though, even if he didn't excel at all aspects of film in every go round.

The worlds and universe stuff... You can see with the Disney sequel trilogy that he was just on a higher plane with that shit, it just oozed out of him.

The "sequel trilogy" was just rushed, I think. It kind of reminds me of that Jeff Goldblum line from Jurassic Park. They were so focused on whether they could that they never stopped to think whether they should. I don't hate any of the movies, for what it's worth. Some are definitely better than others though. And it hasn't been a total loss since Disney took over. The Mandalorian is a fantastic show. Rogue One and Andor are probably my favourite Star Wars things ever. I loved the Kenobi show too. And Ashoka looks like it's going to be really good if that trailer is anything to go by.

Tbh, ther've only been two really great Star Wars films, The Empire Strikes back and A New Hope. The series jumped the shark with Return of the Care Bears. And as flawed as the prequels were, they were masterpieces compared to the slop that followed. Disney did to Star Wars what ventually did to the MCU.

uPtoWnNY said:

WhisperingDandelions said:

ShellyMcG said:

Don't forget Doc Brown ..

ShellyMcG said:

ShellyMcG said:

uPtoWnNY said:

Tbh, ther've only been two really great Star Wars films, The Empire Strikes back and A New Hope. The series jumped the shark with Return of the Care Bears. And as flawed as the prequels were, they were masterpieces compared to the slop that followed. Disney did to Star Wars what ventually did to the MCU.

Return Of The Care Bears . My cousin calls it Star Wars Episode 6: The Teddy Bears Picnic lol. I don't know though, I liked it. Did you really not like Rogue One or the Andor series? I thought that both of those were exactly the kind of thing we should be seeing more of. The mainline "Skywalker Saga" are enjoyable action romps but there's definitely room for more serious, mature (by Star Wars standards) storytelling. And I think both Rogue One and Andor did that really well. Disney's take on Star Wars hasn't been the most consistent, I'll admit. The "sequel trilogy" has been extremely divisive and Solo seems to have been almost universally panned (it's the one movie I haven't actually seen yet) but for every perceived failure there's been something good to balance it out. Rogue One, Andor, The Mandalorian, Kenobi. Like I said, that Ashoka show looks promising too. Plus, I'd argue that Darth Vader has never been portrayed in a more frightening manner. His appearances in Rogue One, Kenobi and even the Star Wars Jedi Fallen Order videogame have shown him to be an unstoppable force to be reckoned with. He's almost like a supernatural monster from a horror movie. There's definitely been some missteps along the way but I don't think it's all been as bad as a lot of people pretend.

I liked Rogue One a lot...it felt more 'Star Wars' than the sequels. Vader was never more badass and menacing.

I was so ticked off after 'The Last Jedi' that I said no more Star Wars, just like I did with Marvel:Phase Bore. Haven't seen Wakanda Forever and I don't plan too.

May the force be with you ShellyMcG

kpowers said:

uPtoWnNY said:

FragileUndertow said:

ShellyMcG said:

Don't forget Doc Brown ..

It was great to see Christopher Lloyd 😀

The Ahsoka trailer looks great!

Did I see multiple (4?) characters from Rebles
Chopper !
Zeb was seen in the Mandalorian (forgive me if I get names wrong)

Thrawn
The show says this summer
I hope its good.

I was going to mention you may want to watch Rebels, but you already ahead of the game

Jon Favreau did the franchise justice.

The rest is kinda "Meh Wars"

ShellyMcG said:

That most recent episode of The Mandalorian . Can't wait for next week's finale. Also, as someone who had no prior knowledge of Bo Katan, I would be fully onboard with them making her the lead character in this show for future seasons. As much as I like Din Djarin, I just feel like Bo Katan is a much stronger character in virtually every way.

I wish it would come out on DVD/BLU Ray already

kpowers said:

ShellyMcG said:

kpowers said:

I wish it would come out on DVD/BLU Ray already

I don't see that ever happening to be honest. It's a major selling point for Disney Plus. Maybe once the series has finished and they're promoting this upcoming crossover movie with Boba Fett, Ahsoka, Rebels etc, they'll release some kind of "Mando-verse" box set? But I'd probably doubt it. Disney Plus seems like the priority.

Unfortunately I agree with you

I've only seen the scene from Rouge One at the end where Vader's going apeshit with the saber in the tunnel. It's probably a great movie based on that alone.

What about that Christmas special? The original Star Wars TV extended universe foray. The Star Wars Christmas Special had to learn to crawl so The Mandalorian could walk.

kpowers said: