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Thread started 07/17/21 11:55pm

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Remakes of movies that are better than the original?

I know there are not a lot of remakes that are better than the original.

For instance,I don't know anybody who thinks the remakes of "Psycho" and "Halloween" surpass the original films.But there are rare occasions when they do

At the moment the only remakes I can think of that I enjoy a lot better than the originals are the 2014 version of "Flowers in the attic".It was a lifetime movie but I really enjoyed it
The other is "My bloody valentine" from 2008 I think.Going to see the movie,I had never seen or even heard of the original.But I enjoyed the hell out of the remake.I did catch the original on tv a few years ago and it very bland and boring to me.

Let's see which remakes you all prefer
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Reply #1 posted 07/18/21 2:57am

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I prefer the remake The Omega Man over the original The Last Man on Earth.

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Reply #2 posted 07/18/21 4:37am

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Without thinking too much about it, Heat, The Fly and Oceans Eleven are the obvious ones that come to mind. Of course, it depends on how you define a "remake". Is Brian DePalma's Scarface a remake of the Howard Hawks Scarface? If so, then the remake is better.
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Reply #3 posted 07/18/21 11:07am

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EmmaMcG said:

Without thinking too much about it, Heat, The Fly and Oceans Eleven are the obvious ones that come to mind. Of course, it depends on how you define a "remake". Is Brian DePalma's Scarface a remake of the Howard Hawks Scarface? If so, then the remake is better.

I completely forgot about that. That´s a very good example, and I prefer the version with Al Pacino even though I really like the original, too. Even though they are very different, I´d definitely count De Palma´s version as a remake.

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Reply #4 posted 07/18/21 3:55pm

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Now I've had more time to think about it, I've thought of a few more remakes that were better than the original.

The Thing
The Man Who Knew Too Much (Hitchcock remaking his own movie, kind of)
The Maltese Falcon
The Little Shop of Horrors
True Grit


I'm sure there are many others but I'm tired and can't be bothered thinking of more. I think True Lies was a remake of a foreign movie too but I can't remember what the original movie was called. I never seen it but I still bet that True Lies is better.
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Reply #5 posted 07/18/21 9:07pm

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KoolEaze said:

I prefer the remake The Omega Man over the original The Last Man on Earth.


I'm glad you brought this up. While the Heston one was better overall, none of them stick to the book. The Heston one is outrageously different, and I think Richard Mathison had his name removed from the movie.

The Vincent Price one I've never been able to sit through.

The Will Smith one was okay for a while, but the feral CGI vampires were a bust for me.

I've read the short story. It's incredibly enthralling. The idea of "I am legend," is specific in the book. He's not the last man on earth, he's the last human being, because society has turned into what equates to vampires. They're going to kill him, out of fear of the unknown, in the town square. But a sympathetic nurse gives him a pill or something so he can off himself first. His last words are "I am legend." He knows that despite all of humanity ending, he'll at least be remembered for being the last one.

None of the movies have stuck to the book and really played out that story. It's all about a guy being alone - which it is in many respects - and then facing a larger obstacle with what is basically a new race of humanoid creatures.

Maybe one day someone will do that movie right.

And one of the more interesitng things in the film is a movie marquee showing a Batman vs. Superman film, which was supposed to be made but wasn't, or something. But eventually, it did.

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Reply #6 posted 07/18/21 9:08pm

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The reboot of Star Trek was better than the motion picture. Fite me.


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Reply #7 posted 07/18/21 9:55pm

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Lord Of The Rings (Original was a cartoon).

The Lion The Witch and The Wadrobe

The Fugitive

The Longest Yard

King Kong

Heaven Can Wait

The Mummy

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Reply #8 posted 07/18/21 10:29pm

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kewlschool said:

Lord Of The Rings (Original was a cartoon).

The Lion The Witch and The Wadrobe

The Fugitive

The Longest Yard

King Kong

Heaven Can Wait

The Mummy


Those 4 new Monsterverse movies were fantastic.

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Reply #9 posted 07/19/21 1:29am

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The Thing, True Lies and The Birdcage immediately come to mind. Especially Eddie Murphy's version of Nutty Professor for mine, I think it was funnier and played the major narrative beats better. I had good memories of the theater experience especially, I just remember everyone being in hysterics at scenes of Chappelle going in with the fat jokes at the comedy club and the dinner farting.

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Reply #10 posted 07/19/21 1:32pm

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Heat (1995) is 100 times better than L.A. Takedown.

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Reply #11 posted 07/19/21 2:19pm

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spacedolphin said:

The Thing, True Lies and The Birdcage immediately come to mind. Especially Eddie Murphy's version of Nutty Professor for mine, I think it was funnier and played the major narrative beats better. I had good memories of the theater experience especially, I just remember everyone being in hysterics at scenes of Chappelle going in with the fat jokes at the comedy club and the dinner farting.


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Reply #12 posted 07/19/21 10:04pm

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The Thing
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Reply #13 posted 07/20/21 2:34am

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TrivialPursuit said:

The reboot of Star Trek was better than the motion picture. Fite me.


Oh god I take Star Trek the Motion picture and Star Trek 5 the final frontier over JJ "Let's blow up Vulvcan " Abrams any day. Don't even get me started how horrible Discovery.

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Reply #14 posted 07/20/21 1:32pm

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kpowers said:

Oh god I take Star Trek the Motion picture and Star Trek 5 the final frontier over JJ "Let's blow up Vulvcan " Abrams any day. Don't even get me started how horrible Discovery.


I don't know why canon worshippers are so bent out of shape about Discovery. Hands down, it's the best Star Trek series since ST:TNG.

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Reply #15 posted 07/20/21 1:45pm

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Live action Mulan was better.

Mary Poppins, while not a full remake, held its own.


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Reply #16 posted 07/20/21 2:28pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

kpowers said:

Oh god I take Star Trek the Motion picture and Star Trek 5 the final frontier over JJ "Let's blow up Vulvcan " Abrams any day. Don't even get me started how horrible Discovery.


I don't know why canon worshippers are so bent out of shape about Discovery. Hands down, it's the best Star Trek series since ST:TNG.

I dig science fiction I've never watched the Star Trek stuff beyond the 60's tv show.

Which tv shows (Discovery, I'll check out) and movies are the best ones 2 check out?

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Reply #17 posted 07/20/21 2:28pm

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TrivialPursuit said:



kpowers said:





Oh god I take Star Trek the Motion picture and Star Trek 5 the final frontier over JJ "Let's blow up Vulvcan " Abrams any day. Don't even get me started how horrible Discovery.




I don't know why canon worshippers are so bent out of shape about Discovery. Hands down, it's the best Star Trek series since ST:TNG.


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Reply #18 posted 07/20/21 2:52pm

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Reply #19 posted 07/20/21 5:27pm

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Graycap23 said:

I dig science fiction I've never watched the Star Trek stuff beyond the 60's tv show.

Which tv shows (Discovery, I'll check out) and movies are the best ones 2 check out?


I think The Next Generation was a great series. Deep Space Nine was way better than what I initially gave it credit for. So was Voyager. I really enjoyed Enterprise, too.

When I decided to watch DS9, I knew that the stories were intermingled with the last two seasons of TNG. So, I found a list of chronological (by star date) shows. So I just followed the list. I bounced between TNG and DS9. The stories on both made more sense (the Cardassians, the Romulans, etc). Eventually TNG shows ran out and I finished DS9 on its own. It was a great way to watch it all.

But Discovery is only 3 season in (4?, I forget off hand). Watch that. It's sensational. Then work your way thru TNG and start to incorporate DS9. But all the shows are on that list.

As far as movies, I love the reboots: Star Trek, Into Darkness, Beyond. I wasn't a huge fan of Generations, but it was interesting to see Kirk and Picard on screen together. Edward Norton is in it briefly, too. I enjoyed Nemesis, Insurrection and First Contact. I've only watched the original series movies once, so I can't comment on those as much.

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Reply #20 posted 07/20/21 7:03pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

Graycap23 said:

I dig science fiction I've never watched the Star Trek stuff beyond the 60's tv show.

Which tv shows (Discovery, I'll check out) and movies are the best ones 2 check out?


I think The Next Generation was a great series. Deep Space Nine was way better than what I initially gave it credit for. So was Voyager. I really enjoyed Enterprise, too.

When I decided to watch DS9, I knew that the stories were intermingled with the last two seasons of TNG. So, I found a list of chronological (by star date) shows. So I just followed the list. I bounced between TNG and DS9. The stories on both made more sense (the Cardassians, the Romulans, etc). Eventually TNG shows ran out and I finished DS9 on its own. It was a great way to watch it all.

But Discovery is only 3 season in (4?, I forget off hand). Watch that. It's sensational. Then work your way thru TNG and start to incorporate DS9. But all the shows are on that list.

As far as movies, I love the reboots: Star Trek, Into Darkness, Beyond. I wasn't a huge fan of Generations, but it was interesting to see Kirk and Picard on screen together. Edward Norton is in it briefly, too. I enjoyed Nemesis, Insurrection and First Contact. I've only watched the original series movies once, so I can't comment on those as much.

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Graycap23 said:

TrivialPursuit said:


I think The Next Generation was a great series. Deep Space Nine was way better than what I initially gave it credit for. So was Voyager. I really enjoyed Enterprise, too.


Kool. Thanks.

Those shows are good (Discovery barf) Also watch Star Trek the Animated series if you haven't already. Also check out Star Trek Continues, which you can watch on you tube. Make sure you watch the 11 episodes in order

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Reply #22 posted 07/22/21 8:20am

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kewlschool said:

Lord Of The Rings (Original was a cartoon).

The Lion The Witch and The Wadrobe

The Fugitive

The Longest Yard

King Kong

Heaven Can Wait

The Mummy


You do realize that "Heaven Can Wait" starring Warren Beatty was actually a remake of the 1941 movie "Here Comes Mr. Jordan" starring Robert Montgomery - not the 1943 "Heaven Can Wait" with Don Ameche … right?

"Here Comes Mr. Jordan" is better in every way.

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Reply #23 posted 07/22/21 10:00am

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Will do.

kpowers said:

Graycap23 said:

Kool. Thanks.

Those shows are good (Discovery barf) Also watch Star Trek the Animated series if you haven't already. Also check out Star Trek Continues, which you can watch on you tube. Make sure you watch the 11 episodes in order

Star Trek Continues: What Ships Are For – Graphic Novelty²Official Guide to Star Trek: The Animated Series to be Released Later This  Year | TREKNEWS.NET | Your daily dose of Star Trek news and opinion

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Reply #24 posted 07/22/21 10:11am

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I'm surprised no one's mentioned The Bishop's Wife vs The Preacher's Wife, or Guess Who's Coming To Dinner vs Guess Who (although, that one is no contest; GWCTD is superior).

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Reply #25 posted 07/22/21 12:37pm

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Graycap23 said:

TrivialPursuit said:


I don't know why canon worshippers are so bent out of shape about Discovery. Hands down, it's the best Star Trek series since ST:TNG.

I dig science fiction I've never watched the Star Trek stuff beyond the 60's tv show.

Which tv shows (Discovery, I'll check out) and movies are the best ones 2 check out?

The new Star Trek series are darker in themes-where the original shows and movies had hope and with happier outcome endings (most of the time). The popular shows for Star Trek are The original, The Next Generation, and Voyager. I personally like the Voyager series best (season 4 through season 7) the first 3 seasons are okay. And overall Voyager is less cheesy than the original 2 tv series.

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Reply #26 posted 07/22/21 12:43pm

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kewlschool said:

Graycap23 said:

I dig science fiction I've never watched the Star Trek stuff beyond the 60's tv show.

Which tv shows (Discovery, I'll check out) and movies are the best ones 2 check out?

The new Star Trek series are darker in themes-where the original shows and movies had hope and with happier outcome endings (most of the time). The popular shows for Star Trek are The original, The Next Generation, and Voyager. I personally like the Voyager series best (season 4 through season 7) the first 3 seasons are okay. And overall Voyager is less cheesy than the original 2 tv series.

I love Voyager

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kpowers said:

kewlschool said:

The new Star Trek series are darker in themes-where the original shows and movies had hope and with happier outcome endings (most of the time). The popular shows for Star Trek are The original, The Next Generation, and Voyager. I personally like the Voyager series best (season 4 through season 7) the first 3 seasons are okay. And overall Voyager is less cheesy than the original 2 tv series.

I love Voyager

7 of Nines is the reason the show became a hit and the best character on the show. (Love the doctor too).

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Reply #28 posted 07/22/21 12:52pm

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kewlschool said:

kpowers said:

I love Voyager

7 of Nines is the reason the show became a hit and the best character on the show. (Love the doctor too).

That is true but I love the show even before Jeri Ryan joined the cast. Love the theme of the show, Voyager being stuck in galaxy far far away (ooops wrong franchise). Was so happy when I heard that Robert Picardo (The Doctor) was going to be a cast member because I loved him as the P.E teacher on the Wonder Years.




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kewlschool said:

Graycap23 said:

I dig science fiction I've never watched the Star Trek stuff beyond the 60's tv show.

Which tv shows (Discovery, I'll check out) and movies are the best ones 2 check out?

The new Star Trek series are darker in themes-where the original shows and movies had hope and with happier outcome endings (most of the time). The popular shows for Star Trek are The original, The Next Generation, and Voyager. I personally like the Voyager series best (season 4 through season 7) the first 3 seasons are okay. And overall Voyager is less cheesy than the original 2 tv series.

From what I saw Discovery and all the JJ Abrams are not all that much Darker than TNG/DS9/Voyager and Enterprise

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