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Reply #30 posted 07/22/21 2:03pm

Genesia

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TrivialPursuit said:

I'm surprised no one's mentioned The Bishop's Wife vs The Preacher's Wife, or Guess Who's Coming To Dinner vs Guess Who (although, that one is no contest; GWCTD is superior).



Because Bishop >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Preacher
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Reply #31 posted 07/22/21 4:11pm

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kewlschool said:



Graycap23 said:




TrivialPursuit said:




I don't know why canon worshippers are so bent out of shape about Discovery. Hands down, it's the best Star Trek series since ST:TNG.



I dig science fiction I've never watched the Star Trek stuff beyond the 60's tv show.


Which tv shows (Discovery, I'll check out) and movies are the best ones 2 check out?



The new Star Trek series are darker in themes-where the original shows and movies had hope and with happier outcome endings (most of the time). The popular shows for Star Trek are The original, The Next Generation, and Voyager. I personally like the Voyager series best (season 4 through season 7) the first 3 seasons are okay. And overall Voyager is less cheesy than the original 2 tv series.



Overall, perhaps, but Janeway was the second cheesiest captain, after the master of cheese, Kirk. Her acting, while amusing at times, became a distraction.
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Reply #32 posted 07/22/21 5:29pm

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PJMcGee said:

kewlschool said:

The new Star Trek series are darker in themes-where the original shows and movies had hope and with happier outcome endings (most of the time). The popular shows for Star Trek are The original, The Next Generation, and Voyager. I personally like the Voyager series best (season 4 through season 7) the first 3 seasons are okay. And overall Voyager is less cheesy than the original 2 tv series.

Overall, perhaps, but Janeway was the second cheesiest captain, after the master of cheese, Kirk. Her acting, while amusing at times, became a distraction.

I liked her and always hate the term "cheesiest"

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Reply #33 posted 07/22/21 6:37pm

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Yet you used the term cheesy. How do you feel about cheesier?
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Reply #34 posted 07/22/21 6:40pm

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Oops sorry that wasn't you.

Let's just call her acting mannered.
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Reply #35 posted 07/22/21 7:38pm

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PJMcGee said:

Oops sorry that wasn't you. Let's just call her acting mannered.

Some people don't like her voice, I do

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Reply #36 posted 07/23/21 12:30am

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I think the 2005 remake of 'The Amityville Horror' is much better (and more scarier) than the 1979 original.

The Amityville Horror (2005) - Rotten Tomatoes

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Reply #37 posted 07/23/21 8:15am

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TrivialPursuit said:

KoolEaze said:

I prefer the remake The Omega Man over the original The Last Man on Earth.


I'm glad you brought this up. While the Heston one was better overall, none of them stick to the book. The Heston one is outrageously different, and I think Richard Mathison had his name removed from the movie.

The Vincent Price one I've never been able to sit through.

The Will Smith one was okay for a while, but the feral CGI vampires were a bust for me.

I've read the short story. It's incredibly enthralling. The idea of "I am legend," is specific in the book. He's not the last man on earth, he's the last human being, because society has turned into what equates to vampires. They're going to kill him, out of fear of the unknown, in the town square. But a sympathetic nurse gives him a pill or something so he can off himself first. His last words are "I am legend." He knows that despite all of humanity ending, he'll at least be remembered for being the last one.

None of the movies have stuck to the book and really played out that story. It's all about a guy being alone - which it is in many respects - and then facing a larger obstacle with what is basically a new race of humanoid creatures.

Maybe one day someone will do that movie right.

And one of the more interesitng things in the film is a movie marquee showing a Batman vs. Superman film, which was supposed to be made but wasn't, or something. But eventually, it did.

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Reply #38 posted 07/23/21 2:44pm

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"SCARFACE" with Al Pacino. Supposedly, there's going to be another remake. Both remakes of "A Star Is Born" were better than the original too.

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Reply #39 posted 07/23/21 3:30pm

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SoulAlive said:

I think the 2005 remake of 'The Amityville Horror' is much better (and more scarier) than the 1979 original.

The Amityville Horror (2005) - Rotten Tomatoes


The original was just boring. There was something about a lot of movies in the 70s or even early 80s where they tried to build suspense or something, but it was just boring close up shots. Sometimes, the horror was almost treated as a b-story, not the main thrust of the film.

Thank God for films like Friday the 13th and Tourist Trap which really opened the door to more direct scares, suspense, and maybe even a few now-common tropes.

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Reply #40 posted 07/23/21 3:31pm

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Yeah. He had his name removed from one. And the alternate ending to the Will Smith version has them surviving and finding a place where other humans migrated to form a new world. It's just fucking bizarre.

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Reply #41 posted 07/23/21 10:27pm

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TrivialPursuit said:



SoulAlive said:


I think the 2005 remake of 'The Amityville Horror' is much better (and more scarier) than the 1979 original.



The Amityville Horror (2005) - Rotten Tomatoes




The original was just boring. There was something about a lot of movies in the 70s or even early 80s where they tried to build suspense or something, but it was just boring close up shots. Sometimes, the horror was almost treated as a b-story, not the main thrust of the film.

Thank God for films like Friday the 13th and Tourist Trap which really opened the door to more direct scares, suspense, and maybe even a few now-common tropes.



I agree,the original was kinda boring.The remake is so much better.The special effects and the pacing is much improved.This time,the story is genuinely scary and creepy.
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Reply #42 posted 07/23/21 11:28pm

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kpowers said:

PJMcGee said:

kewlschool said: Overall, perhaps, but Janeway was the second cheesiest captain, after the master of cheese, Kirk. Her acting, while amusing at times, became a distraction.

I liked her and always hate the term "cheesiest"

I liked Janeway. Besides Kirk and Janeway actors are the only ones that had hit Star Trek TV series and additional hit TV series. Others have done well in other arenas.

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Reply #43 posted 07/24/21 10:34am

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Why We Love: The Omega Man - IGN

I take the Omega Man any day over the crappy Will Smith movie

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Reply #44 posted 07/24/21 10:38am

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SoulAlive said:

TrivialPursuit said:


The original was just boring. There was something about a lot of movies in the 70s or even early 80s where they tried to build suspense or something, but it was just boring close up shots. Sometimes, the horror was almost treated as a b-story, not the main thrust of the film.

Thank God for films like Friday the 13th and Tourist Trap which really opened the door to more direct scares, suspense, and maybe even a few now-common tropes.

I agree,the original was kinda boring.The remake is so much better.The special effects and the pacing is much improved.This time,the story is genuinely scary and creepy.

But that version has Ryan Reynolds in it bored and honestly CGI does not make a horror movie better, check out the Unholy as an example. But I agree with you the pacing of the movie was good.

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Reply #45 posted 07/24/21 11:55am

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kpowers said:

SoulAlive said:

TrivialPursuit said: I agree,the original was kinda boring.The remake is so much better.The special effects and the pacing is much improved.This time,the story is genuinely scary and creepy.

But that version has Ryan Reynolds in it bored and honestly CGI does not make a horror movie better, check out the Unholy as an example. But I agree with you the pacing of the movie was good.

and what's wrong with Ryan Reynolds? lol I think he's a good actor.He did pretty good in this film.

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Reply #46 posted 07/24/21 2:18pm

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I can watch the Will Smith version every now and then and find it quite enjoyable but it doesn´t even come close to The Omega Man, which I could watch again and again because I really love 1970s sci-fi movies.

And there´s so much to discover in The Omega Man, lots of hidden details. I think I´m going to watch it again tonight. wink It´s on the free internet library.

kpowers said:

Why We Love: The Omega Man - IGN

I take the Omega Man any day over the crappy Will Smith movie

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Reply #47 posted 07/24/21 3:26pm

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kewlschool said:

Besides Kirk and Janeway actors are the only ones that had hit Star Trek TV series and additional hit TV series. Others have done well in other arenas.

Technically, the original 1960s show was not a hit. It was going to be cancelled until fans wrote NBC to save it. Even after NBC decided to give it another chance, it was cancelled after season 3. Star Trek started to become popular when the reruns were syndicated in the 1970s. I'm surprised there's not a new version of T.J. Hooker though, since other old TV shows were either made into movies (I Spy, Charlie's Angels, Beverly Hillbillies, Mission Impossible, etc.) or had reboots as TV shows (Magnum P.I., New Leave It To Beaver, Gilligan's Planet, Hawaii 5-0)

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Reply #48 posted 07/25/21 9:53am

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Evil Dead II is a better remake of Evil Dead.

Bigger budget and the experience of making the first one seemed like a factor.

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Reply #49 posted 07/25/21 2:00pm

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SoulAlive said:

kpowers said:

But that version has Ryan Reynolds in it bored and honestly CGI does not make a horror movie better, check out the Unholy as an example. But I agree with you the pacing of the movie was good.

and what's wrong with Ryan Reynolds? lol I think he's a good actor.He did pretty good in this film.

Hate his acting since he's so freakin' sarcastic in just about every movie I've ever seen him in. People like him are the reason why the phrase "Shut the F*** up" exist.

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Reply #50 posted 07/25/21 2:00pm

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S2DG said:

Evil Dead II is a better remake of Evil Dead.

Bigger budget and the experience of making the first one seemed like a factor.

Kinda like Mad Max

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Reply #51 posted 07/25/21 2:02pm

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KoolEaze said:

I can watch the Will Smith version every now and then and find it quite enjoyable but it doesn´t even come close to The Omega Man, which I could watch again and again because I really love 1970s sci-fi movies.

And there´s so much to discover in The Omega Man, lots of hidden details. I think I´m going to watch it again tonight. wink It´s on the free internet library.

kpowers said:

Why We Love: The Omega Man - IGN

I take the Omega Man any day over the crappy Will Smith movie

Yup Omega man was one of the very first movies I bought on DVD

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Reply #52 posted 07/26/21 7:42am

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SPYZFAN1 said:

"SCARFACE" with Al Pacino. Supposedly, there's going to be another remake. Both remakes of "A Star Is Born" were better than the original too.


A Start is Born has been made four times - 1937, 1954, 1976 and 2018. The 1937 original (with Janet Gaynor and Frederic March) is far and away the best.

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Reply #53 posted 07/26/21 9:01am

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kpowers said:



S2DG said:


Evil Dead II is a better remake of Evil Dead.

Bigger budget and the experience of making the first one seemed like a factor.



Kinda like Mad Max



And Desperado. That being said, I really like El Mariachi but the sequel/remake was better.
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Reply #54 posted 07/26/21 11:09am

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MickyDolenz said:

kewlschool said:

Besides Kirk and Janeway actors are the only ones that had hit Star Trek TV series and additional hit TV series. Others have done well in other arenas.

Technically, the original 1960s show was not a hit. It was going to be cancelled until fans wrote NBC to save it. Even after NBC decided to give it another chance, it was cancelled after season 3. Star Trek started to become popular when the reruns were syndicated in the 1970s. I'm surprised there's not a new version of T.J. Hooker though, since other old TV shows were either made into movies (I Spy, Charlie's Angels, Beverly Hillbillies, Mission Impossible, etc.) or had reboots as TV shows (Magnum P.I., New Leave It To Beaver, Gilligan's Planet, Hawaii 5-0)

Except in reruns (syndication) it was a hit. Mama's family was the number one syndicated show once it left NBC and did all new shows thru syndication.It held that number one spot the rest of their run.

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Reply #55 posted 07/26/21 12:42pm

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kpowers said:

S2DG said:

Evil Dead II is a better remake of Evil Dead.

Bigger budget and the experience of making the first one seemed like a factor.

Kinda like Mad Max



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Reply #56 posted 07/26/21 12:43pm

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EmmaMcG said:

kpowers said:

Kinda like Mad Max

And Desperado. That being said, I really like El Mariachi but the sequel/remake was better.


Oh yeah, I forgot about these...

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Reply #57 posted 07/28/21 1:44pm

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TrivialPursuit said:


The original was just boring. There was something about a lot of movies in the 70s or even early 80s where they tried to build suspense or something, but it was just boring close up shots. Sometimes, the horror was almost treated as a b-story, not the main thrust of the film.

Thank God for films like Friday the 13th and Tourist Trap which really opened the door to more direct scares, suspense, and maybe even a few now-common tropes.

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