sexton said:

EmmaMcG said:

kpowers said:

Can't talk about it until the US official release date

Which is weird. I didn't realise that the org was only for Americans. After all, mods had no problems with threads discussing Ant Man And The Wasp months before it was released in Europe after it got delayed here due to the World Cup.

One rule for one ...

I've got zero enthusiasm for this film given that they've pretty much confirmed the current DC movie universe is being discontinued. Judging but the "can't say its rubbish so we'll just be polite" tweets the other week after the press previews I'm not expecting much either.

DaveT said:

EmmaMcG said:

sexton said:

What happened to the Aquaman movie review thread?

If anyone is interested, I thought the movie was pretty good. A few nice surprises that wasn't spoiled by the trailers and some genuinely strange (in a good way) moments sets it apart from the previous DCEU movies. CGI is an improvement over the previous movies in the series but still not particularly good when compared to the Marvel movies and some characters (Willem Dafoe's in particular) seem like a lot of their scenes were cut out but I suppose they had to make time for more action scenes, of which there are plenty. My only real major complaint is that there is little to no reference to the other members of the Justice League. You'd think that, faced with a threat this big, Aquaman would call in Superman or something but no. Good movie overall though

I'm interested. Ok was it better than Wonder Woman? From your last thread you said Amber Heard was not great in the movie, no surprise for me because I found her irritating in her little cameo she did in the other movie. Does this movie take place before Justice League?? Once again my biggest complaint is that I see Jason Moamo and not Aquaman

kpowers said:

EmmaMcG said:

kpowers said:

I'm interested. Ok was it better than Wonder Woman? From your last thread you said Amber Heard was not great in the movie, no surprise for me because I found her irritating in her little cameo she did in the other movie. Does this movie take place before Justice League?? Once again my biggest complaint is that I see Jason Moamo and not Aquaman

It's not as good as Wonder Woman overall but it definitely has a better third act than Wonder Woman. It's the most consistently good DCEU movie. Amber Heard is seemingly only there because the director wanted to see her in the costume. And she does look well in it. But her acting is neither here nor there. Anyone else could have played that role. I dare say, if I was a few inches taller, I could have done a better job myself. Jason Momoa is just Jason Momoa but it just works. Like I said previously, I have very little prior knowledge of these characters so he could be totally off for people who are familiar with Aquaman but for me, he does really well. I don't think it's a comic book accurate version of Aquaman but the movie itself feels like a product of the 80s so in that respect, Jason Momoa seems like perfect casting. The best things in the movie are things I can't talk about because I'd be spoiling too much for people. Just know that it's worth seeing just to see how crazy and weird things get. The following paragraph contains an extremely minor spoiler so skip it if you want. However, it is very minor and doesn't spoil any plot details or the aforementioned crazy stuff. This movie definitely takes place after the Justice League because Steppenwolf is mentioned once by Mera when she's trying to convince Arthur to help her. But that's the one and only link to the other movies. Which was disappointing.

No, you are Shamrock.

kpowers said:

EmmaMcG said:

kpowers said:

I'm interested. Ok was it better than Wonder Woman? From your last thread you said Amber Heard was not great in the movie, no surprise for me because I found her irritating in her little cameo she did in the other movie. Does this movie take place before Justice League?? Once again my biggest complaint is that I see Jason Moamo and not Aquaman

It's not as good as Wonder Woman overall but it definitely has a better third act than Wonder Woman. It's the most consistently good DCEU movie. Amber Heard is seemingly only there because the director wanted to see her in the costume. And she does look well in it. But her acting is neither here nor there. Anyone else could have played that role. I dare say, if I was a few inches taller, I could have done a better job myself. Jason Momoa is just Jason Momoa but it just works. Like I said previously, I have very little prior knowledge of these characters so he could be totally off for people who are familiar with Aquaman but for me, he does really well. I don't think it's a comic book accurate version of Aquaman but the movie itself feels like a product of the 80s so in that respect, Jason Momoa seems like perfect casting. The best things in the movie are things I can't talk about because I'd be spoiling too much for people. Just know that it's worth seeing just to see how crazy and weird things get. The following paragraph contains an extremely minor spoiler so skip it if you want. However, it is very minor and doesn't spoil any plot details or the aforementioned crazy stuff. This movie definitely takes place after the Justice League because Steppenwolf is mentioned once by Mera when she's trying to convince Arthur to help her. But that's the one and only link to the other movies. Which was disappointing.

The Aquaman Jason Momoa plays is more of the 90's Aquaman. That is when they started to have Aquaman with no shirt, long hair and beard (I never liked the changes) and eventually a hook for an arm

kpowers said:

EmmaMcG said:

kpowers said:

The Aquaman Jason Momoa plays is more of the 90's Aquaman. That is when they started to have Aquaman with no shirt, long hair and beard (I never liked the changes) and eventually a hook for an arm

The movie seems like it's from the 80s. The cheesy action, the cheesy one liners accompanied by cheesy guitar music. Dolph Lundgren showing up being very Dolph Lundgren-esque.

OK plot wise

kpowers said:

EmmaMcG said:

kpowers said:

OK plot wise

Plot?? Aquaman has no plot lol. It's got a lot of mental stuff going on but its plot is pretty barebones. It's not really a superhero movie in the traditional sense. It's more of an action movie where the lead character has super powers.

EmmaMcG said:

A lot of people didn't like that Ben Affleck was cast as Batman but that scene in BVS where he takes out the bunch of bad guys holding Martha Kent changed a lot of minds about Ben Affleck.

That's just weird because that was a stuntman so even George Clooney could have played Batman again and then suddenly be great if people only based there judgement on that fight scene.

JorisE73 said:

EmmaMcG said:

A lot of people didn't like that Ben Affleck was cast as Batman but that scene in BVS where he takes out the bunch of bad guys holding Martha Kent changed a lot of minds about Ben Affleck.

That's just weird because that was a stuntman so even George Clooney could have played Batman again and then suddenly be great if people only based there judgement on that fight scene.

JorisE73 said:

EmmaMcG said:

It's because of the way that Ben Affleck plays the role that you buy into it when its his stunt double beating criminals half to death. Again, were it not for Ben Affleck, those scenes wouldn't be believable.

Exactly. Affleck nailed the character perfectly. It's straight out of Frank Miller's 'Dark Knight Returns'.

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I doubt I'll see this movie because it doesn't really interest me, but I will say that Lisa Bonet is one lucky woman

Ugot2shakesumthin said:

Jason looked mighty nice this morning doing his Haka dance.


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onlyforaminute said:

EmmaMcG said:

onlyforaminute said:

Jason looked mighty nice this morning doing his Haka dance.


https://www.yahoo.com/gma...ities.html

The video is not available in my region but I'll take your word for it. Jason Momoa looks mighty nice doing pretty much anything.

I'm sure it'll be on UTube soon. And yes he does. I especially like the touch of the pictures with his family cause you know enquiring minds wanna know.

EmmaMcG said:

Ugot2shakesumthin said:

I’ll go see it tomorrow, but I know I’ll have a problem with the cartoon cgi look. That style of cgi looks incredibly dated today, and could see how it will be ridiculed in the years to come.

The CGI isn't actually that bad. It's not great but it's definitely the best of the DCEU movies for special effects. It IS a very effects heavy movie, given that 60% of it takes place underwater, and as such, its bound to look a bit dodgy in the years to come, but that shouldn't detract from the actual movie, as it exists in the present.

I'm not sure if it's consider part Marvel Universe or not but the worse CGI for a superhero movie from 2000 until now is the first Hulk movie. Way cheesy.

kpowers said:

kpowers said:

EmmaMcG said:

kpowers said:

I'm not sure if it's consider part Marvel Universe or not but the worse CGI for a superhero movie from 2000 until now is the first Hulk movie. Way cheesy.

The Hulk is in a weird position because it's technically not part of the MCU but it also kind of is in a way. The Edward Norton Hulk movie is definitely part of the MCU but according to Marvel, the Ang Lee movie isn't. However, some parts of the Ang Lee movie are considered canon in the Edward Norton movie, which is a kind of sequel. So you have a situation where a movie that positioned itself as a kind of sequel is considered part of the MCU but the original is not. I suspect that had the Ang Lee version been a better movie, Marvel would have been happy to include it in their universe.

I thought the Edward Norton Hulk movie was a sort of sequel to the old TV show. The opening montage of the movie is a great hommage to the TV series tho.

JorisE73 said:

onlyforaminute said:

Ugot2shakesumthin said:

kpowers said:

I'm not sure if it's consider part Marvel Universe or not but the worse CGI for a superhero movie from 2000 until now is the first Hulk movie. Way cheesy.

I love CGI, it just has to fit the tone and style. It’s jarring when the limitations do not fit the style and tone of the story and aesthetic. I’ll reserve judgement until I see it. [Edited 12/13/18 18:39pm]

Folks like to shit on Ang Lee's film, but as a longtime reader of the Hulk, Lee used a lot of elements from the comics, particularly issue #312. Here's a quick synopsis:

Bruce Banner’s life story. We open with the harrowing scene of Bruce Banner’s birth. The delivery is painful and dangerous, so the doctor tells Bruce’s father that he will have to perform a C-Section to save both mother and child. Bruce makes it clear that he’s not concerned if the child lives or dies, but that his wife’s safety is priority. Now… this stood out to me as an incredibly real, dark, and human moment. As I read on, I was beginning to suspect that we were going to read the story of a man who never wanted kids coping with the idea of raising his son, whose birth killed the love of his life. That’s not what happened though – instead, Bruce’s mother survives the pregnancy, which I did like, because this relationship winds up being very interesting. What I was a little disappointed with, though, is that Bruce’s dad quickly becomes an all out psychopath. He is consumed by his paranoid delusions that the radiation he was regularly exposed to as a scientist had turned his son into a mutant, which leads him to abuse both his son and wife before going on to murder the latter. I was hoping for a bit more nuance after that first scene set up the expectations of this character’s path, but I understand the choices her. The narrative through-line of Bruce’s dad suspecting his son of being a monster only for Bruce to actually become that monster in adulthood is powerful, and is symbolized beautifully in the artwork by a sketch of the Hulk’s silhouette, rendered in green, floating above Bruce in every scene, from childhood leading all the way up to that fateful day.