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Reply #60 posted 04/19/03 3:45pm

Therapy

SuperC said:

Supernova said:

Muse2noPharaoh said:

Supernova said:

REDFEATHERS said:

Muse, one visit won't hurt, then after reading these opinions and seeing this person, you will have better understanding of what you want to do...whether it is worth going again/it helps or not...

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Except the opinions of DigitalLisa. She's nuts! :O




But I have to agree with Red, if you're going so far as asking about it, it seems to me that you may think you need to see one. I agree it won't hurt. And if you want to continue and don't necessarily feel the methods of that therapist helps, you can always find another therapist whose methods are more conducive to the progress you need. Just as we can choose which medical doctors we see, we can choose which therapist we see.



Then you agree that if a person has heard God speak into their lives they are nuts

I'm not sure exactly what you mean when you say that. If you could give me some examples I could give you a lay person's opinion. smile


It seems this is a thread to break peples faith. People may contact their creator and still not be crazy. I keep in contact spiritually all the time, i believe there is a higher being and we communicate. Just cause you don't hear the music doesn't mean it's not playing.


I respect where you are coming from with this.

My interest to do with your post, is what function the communication with the higher being serves. I speak with a 'wise1', which I see as my wise part of myself. The function of conversing with parts of myself means that I can help myself and understand myself. I like your saying too, that just cos you don't hear the music, doesn't mean it's not playing.

A vital part of my therapy has been understanding that I have many many sub personalities that make up the whole of me. V. interesting.
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Reply #61 posted 04/19/03 3:49pm

SuperC

Therapy said:

SuperC said:

Supernova said:

Muse2noPharaoh said:

Supernova said:

REDFEATHERS said:

Muse, one visit won't hurt, then after reading these opinions and seeing this person, you will have better understanding of what you want to do...whether it is worth going again/it helps or not...

heart

Except the opinions of DigitalLisa. She's nuts! :O




But I have to agree with Red, if you're going so far as asking about it, it seems to me that you may think you need to see one. I agree it won't hurt. And if you want to continue and don't necessarily feel the methods of that therapist helps, you can always find another therapist whose methods are more conducive to the progress you need. Just as we can choose which medical doctors we see, we can choose which therapist we see.



Then you agree that if a person has heard God speak into their lives they are nuts

I'm not sure exactly what you mean when you say that. If you could give me some examples I could give you a lay person's opinion. smile


It seems this is a thread to break peples faith. People may contact their creator and still not be crazy. I keep in contact spiritually all the time, i believe there is a higher being and we communicate. Just cause you don't hear the music doesn't mean it's not playing.


I respect where you are coming from with this.

My interest to do with your post, is what function the communication with the higher being serves. I speak with a 'wise1', which I see as my wise part of myself. The function of conversing with parts of myself means that I can help myself and understand myself. I like your saying too, that just cos you don't hear the music, doesn't mean it's not playing.

A vital part of my therapy has been understanding that I have many many sub personalities that make up the whole of me. V. interesting.


I find it hard to describe the higher being i communicate with, but i guess you could say it is connecting with a wiser part of me that seems to have all the knowledge i will ever need.
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Reply #62 posted 04/19/03 3:54pm

Therapy

SuperC said:

Therapy said:

SuperC said:

Supernova said:

Muse2noPharaoh said:

Supernova said:

REDFEATHERS said:

Muse, one visit won't hurt, then after reading these opinions and seeing this person, you will have better understanding of what you want to do...whether it is worth going again/it helps or not...

heart

Except the opinions of DigitalLisa. She's nuts! :O




But I have to agree with Red, if you're going so far as asking about it, it seems to me that you may think you need to see one. I agree it won't hurt. And if you want to continue and don't necessarily feel the methods of that therapist helps, you can always find another therapist whose methods are more conducive to the progress you need. Just as we can choose which medical doctors we see, we can choose which therapist we see.



Then you agree that if a person has heard God speak into their lives they are nuts

I'm not sure exactly what you mean when you say that. If you could give me some examples I could give you a lay person's opinion. smile


It seems this is a thread to break peples faith. People may contact their creator and still not be crazy. I keep in contact spiritually all the time, i believe there is a higher being and we communicate. Just cause you don't hear the music doesn't mean it's not playing.


I respect where you are coming from with this.

My interest to do with your post, is what function the communication with the higher being serves. I speak with a 'wise1', which I see as my wise part of myself. The function of conversing with parts of myself means that I can help myself and understand myself. I like your saying too, that just cos you don't hear the music, doesn't mean it's not playing.

A vital part of my therapy has been understanding that I have many many sub personalities that make up the whole of me. V. interesting.


I find it hard to describe the higher being i communicate with, but i guess you could say it is connecting with a wiser part of me that seems to have all the knowledge i will ever need.


nod Understood, loud and clear. All the knowledge, and also, all the kindness, love, direction, etc, etc...
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Reply #63 posted 04/19/03 3:56pm

Supernova

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SuperC said:

Supernova said:

Muse2noPharaoh said:

Supernova said:

REDFEATHERS said:

Muse, one visit won't hurt, then after reading these opinions and seeing this person, you will have better understanding of what you want to do...whether it is worth going again/it helps or not...

heart

Except the opinions of DigitalLisa. She's nuts! :O




But I have to agree with Red, if you're going so far as asking about it, it seems to me that you may think you need to see one. I agree it won't hurt. And if you want to continue and don't necessarily feel the methods of that therapist helps, you can always find another therapist whose methods are more conducive to the progress you need. Just as we can choose which medical doctors we see, we can choose which therapist we see.



Then you agree that if a person has heard God speak into their lives they are nuts

I'm not sure exactly what you mean when you say that. If you could give me some examples I could give you a lay person's opinion. smile


It seems this is a thread to break peples faith. People may contact their creator and still not be crazy. I keep in contact spiritually all the time, i believe there is a higher being and we communicate. Just cause you don't hear the music doesn't mean it's not playing.

EXACTLY. Which is why I asked for examples before offering my opinion. It could be a number of things. I also believe that even if it's just one's conscience - that could be what some mean when they say they hear God. Or it could be something more complex than that. Of course this means nothing to a non-believer, and it definitely means something to believers. Don't want to sound like the friggin' Monkees, but ... I'm a believer. biggrin
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #64 posted 04/19/03 4:22pm

Muse2noPharaoh

woah!!! :EEK: I have misrepresented myself entirely it seems! Give me a few minutes and i'll clear this up!

I am a believer!
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Reply #65 posted 04/19/03 4:24pm

MrBliss

Muse2noPharaoh said:

woah!!! :EEK: I have misrepresented myself entirely it seems! Give me a few minutes and i'll clear this up!

I am a believer!



that's why i asked what the thread was about
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Reply #66 posted 04/19/03 5:09pm

Muse2noPharaoh

Get a Shrink...You wacko!

At what point (In your opinion) do you believe that it is time for an individual to get a shrink? Or perhaps a whole room full of them?
This originated as an inside joke and a late night silly thread. ( As I thought I made clear with Bliss's post smile

Pej Was truly dealing with someone who has schizophrenia. So I became side tracked with that issue and spent till 3AM seeking a comprehensive thread we did in the past on the subject.I was being a smart ass... However, what you are describing sounds like schizophrenia. A very serious if untreated disorder, It is all very real to him and will only get worse if left untreated. Please seek guidance on the matter.






As I thought I made clear here with Red Thank you so much for the concern. However, It was a joke! Though I do claim to have heard the voice of God once... SO, "someone" thought it was grounds for insanity!

Other then that I am boringly level headed! I was touched by the concern and at a loss at this point

Ellis and I entered into a very serious conversation on the subject and I felt derailed from my joke thread.

I woke up this morning and before running out the door I caught Supernovas post and seized an opportunity to drag it back around to a communicating with God thread. I wanted uninfluenced responses and instead came off incorrectly. For this I am very sorry!

Tony and I in our conversations last night discussed the subject. We clearly come from an opposite view point. I am strong in my belief in the existence of God and Jesus Christ. I also do not believe in shoving it down peoples throats. Nor did I wish to open it up in such a way that Tony felt the need to represent his view to a point that I would view as Blasphemy. I say I have heard God. He said both teasing and somewhat more seriously maybe I need a shrink. It is OK for him to feel that way as I desire the same respect (and receive it) from him. I firmly believe two people can discuss there different view points in a constructive respectful manner. ( Even if the male party is annoying and vocal lol ) kisses He is also sweet and caring and takes extraordinary effort to tolerantly express himself in a loving manner without ever weakening his view point! nuts ( I hate to wreck his image but in real life he is far more gentle then here on the Org. )


To my credit I do think I deserved the benefit of the doubt as I have never flamed or attacked an individual. So, Thank You!

Again if you were offended, please except my apologies,

Karen
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Reply #67 posted 04/19/03 5:20pm

SuperC

Then tell him to be more real on here.
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Reply #68 posted 04/19/03 5:21pm

Supernova

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I'm not sure I'm interpreting you right, but Muse I was never offended by anything in this thread, nor do I think anyone was flaming you (at least not from what I can tell). Personally, I was just going by what you asked in the first post, and figured you were contemplating seeing a therapist. The comments in my previous post were about believers and non-believers in general who may be reading the thread - because I know it's easy for some to dismiss "hearing God's voice" or "hearing God speak." No harm, no foul.
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #69 posted 04/19/03 5:24pm

MrBliss

and i asked what the thread was about because of your use of emoticons... to ask what seemed like a serious question followed by a "bored" emoticon, seemed odd to me.. so i knew there had to be more to it.. eg it being a joke
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Reply #70 posted 04/19/03 5:24pm

Muse2noPharaoh

Supernova said:

I'm not sure I'm interpreting you right, but Muse I was never offended by anything in this thread, nor do I think anyone was flaming you (at least not from what I can tell). Personally, I was just going by what you asked in the first post, and figured you were contemplating seeing a therapist. The comments in my previous post were about believers and non-believers in general who may be reading the thread - because I know it's easy for some to dismiss "hearing God's voice" or "hearing God speak." No harm, no foul.



hug NO I didn't think you felt that way. I felt bad that believers may have felt I flamed them!

I received a few notes on the subject.
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Reply #71 posted 04/19/03 5:27pm

Supernova

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Muse2noPharaoh said:

Supernova said:

I'm not sure I'm interpreting you right, but Muse I was never offended by anything in this thread, nor do I think anyone was flaming you (at least not from what I can tell). Personally, I was just going by what you asked in the first post, and figured you were contemplating seeing a therapist. The comments in my previous post were about believers and non-believers in general who may be reading the thread - because I know it's easy for some to dismiss "hearing God's voice" or "hearing God speak." No harm, no foul.



hug NO I didn't think you felt that way. I felt bad that believers may have felt I flamed them!

I received a few notes on the subject.

Oh. I see. hug
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Reply #72 posted 04/19/03 5:33pm

Muse2noPharaoh

SuperC said:

Then tell him to be more real on here.



Oh yes! He always does exactly as I tell him to do! eek I'll get right on it!

I do have my ways however! Last night after he fell asleep I made him a member of Prince's new music club! lol He got in on the ground floor!
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Reply #73 posted 04/19/03 8:15pm

stepinrazor

queen627 said:

Unless you actually think your God or Jesus. Mental Illness is overlooked by society as a problem. Insane people don't know they are insane they think that everyone else has a problem. Not them. And those that are mentally ill do not go to therapy because in their minds they don't have a problem. Most pick on normal people because they make them feel uncomfortable. They have to start looking at themselves more closely. Not that I am an expert but I know some not normal people they are called section 8's in the military. I just learned to spot someone that is dangerous very fast.



hush now girl .. stop talking about me

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Reply #74 posted 04/20/03 6:20pm

pejman

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Muse2noPharaoh said:

Get a Shrink...You wacko!

At what point (In your opinion) do you believe that it is time for an individual to get a shrink? Or perhaps a whole room full of them?
This originated as an inside joke and a late night silly thread. ( As I thought I made clear with Bliss's post smile

Pej Was truly dealing with someone who has schizophrenia. So I became side tracked with that issue and spent till 3AM seeking a comprehensive thread we did in the past on the subject.I was being a smart ass... However, what you are describing sounds like schizophrenia. A very serious if untreated disorder, It is all very real to him and will only get worse if left untreated. Please seek guidance on the matter.






As I thought I made clear here with Red Thank you so much for the concern. However, It was a joke! Though I do claim to have heard the voice of God once... SO, "someone" thought it was grounds for insanity!

Other then that I am boringly level headed! I was touched by the concern and at a loss at this point

Ellis and I entered into a very serious conversation on the subject and I felt derailed from my joke thread.

I woke up this morning and before running out the door I caught Supernovas post and seized an opportunity to drag it back around to a communicating with God thread. I wanted uninfluenced responses and instead came off incorrectly. For this I am very sorry!

Tony and I in our conversations last night discussed the subject. We clearly come from an opposite view point. I am strong in my belief in the existence of God and Jesus Christ. I also do not believe in shoving it down peoples throats. Nor did I wish to open it up in such a way that Tony felt the need to represent his view to a point that I would view as Blasphemy. I say I have heard God. He said both teasing and somewhat more seriously maybe I need a shrink. It is OK for him to feel that way as I desire the same respect (and receive it) from him. I firmly believe two people can discuss there different view points in a constructive respectful manner. ( Even if the male party is annoying and vocal lol ) kisses He is also sweet and caring and takes extraordinary effort to tolerantly express himself in a loving manner without ever weakening his view point! nuts ( I hate to wreck his image but in real life he is far more gentle then here on the Org. )


To my credit I do think I deserved the benefit of the doubt as I have never flamed or attacked an individual. So, Thank You!

Again if you were offended, please except my apologies,

Karen



Five star explanation Muse.. smile I guess I don't always read everybodys posts in full to have seen it was a joke(I love ad libbing)...but I am taking your advice for my friend...just trying to get him to actually see a doctor...and for the record my friend is not me wink
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Reply #75 posted 04/20/03 6:21pm

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SuperC said:

Then tell him to be more real on here.


I am real on here.
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Reply #76 posted 04/20/03 6:45pm

Muse2noPharaoh

pejman said:[quote]Muse2noPharaoh said:[quote]Get a Shrink...You wacko!


Five star explanation Muse.. smile I guess I don't always read everybodys posts in full to have seen it was a joke(I love ad libbing)...but I am taking your advice for my friend...just trying to get him to actually see a doctor...and for the record my friend is not me wink[/]



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