Muse2noPharaoh said:

no not God but the reason he even thinks this is because he hears voices, I think he hears his neighbors cuz the walls are thin but he thinks differently...he says they are talking about him and watch him all the time...he usually only talks about this when he's drunk...kinda scary...I wonder if he's a closet skitzo...he insists he is 100% sure...he's had me listen to the walls w/ a stethascope...

pejman said:

I was being a smart ass... However, what you are describing sounds like schizophrenia. A very serious if untreated disorder, It is all very real to him and will only get worse if left untreated. Please seek guidance on the matter.

Muse2noPharaoh said:

Is there medicine that can help him?

pejman said:

Yes! We have a thread all about this. I will look into it for you!

Muse2noPharaoh said:

Thanks Muse.

I think everyone can benefit from therapy. I am a trained counsellor. And I have first hand experience of the benefits. I have experienced psychotherapy, which works in a deeper way than counselling.

I'd like to take some time to dispel some of the myths around counselling.

1) It is not for 'mad' people. Those with serious psychological disturbances, can benefit from therapy. A friend of mine, her sister is schizophrenic and has medication and attends therapy. Clients with very serious mental illness, will be referred to specialised appropriate places within the mental health organisation. Clients such as this, are beyond at this point, responding well to therapy. They need a different kind of care. Although, the way that whole system works is questionable, I am remaining focused on therapy where the client and counsellor/therapist can engage and work together.
2) If you are feeling worse, it could be that you and your therapist are simply not the best people to work together. Like any relationship, sometimes the first one you see may not be the one you can work best with. In such a case, this does not mean that with another therapist, you wouldn't respond well to the therapeutic process.
3) Once establishing a good relationship with a therapist, things may well seem to get worse in therapy, yet, that may be because you are getting in touch with painful/uncomfortable etc feelings, working them 'out' of your system, rather than the therapy itself creating new problems. It is the treating of the old, not creating new.
4) Therapy is all about how far a client wants to go with healing their past wounds, not about how far the counsellor wants to go.
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Therapy said:

This makes a lot of sense to me! Well said.

I just noticed "therapist" = "the-rapist"

Does that mean they mentally "rape" your mind?

Muse2noPharaoh said:

oh

MrBliss said:

Stop grinning MrBliss, that isn't nice...


Muse, one visit won't hurt, then after reading these opinions and seeing this person, you will have better understanding of what you want to do...whether it is worth going again/it helps or not...

MrBliss said:

Stop grinning MrBliss, that isn't nice...


Muse, one visit won't hurt, then after reading these opinions and seeing this person, you will have better understanding of what you want to do...whether it is worth going again/it helps or not...

REDFEATHERS said:

what the HELL are you going on about now?

MrBliss said:

Multi posting...sorry both my personalities took over, at least they both agreed for once..

Muse2noPharaoh said:

yeah... it was a much unneeded financial burden, especially after all of the court costs and attourney fees ... but in the long run, i did feel a lot better...

i only stayed with the counceling for the bare minimum that was required by the judge and the D.A., because i didn't really have the time or money to go any longer than that...

and although i do feel remarkably better (and other people around me noticed quite a bit of difference as well), there are times (particularly when i get very angry or agitated) when i know that it would really not be a bad idea for me to resume counceling when i have the time and money to do so...

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i also think that the counceling would have been a lot more effective for me, had i approached it with an open mind...

things i would do differently... :LOL:...

EllisDee said:

...And here I thought you were teasing me! Good stuff! Glad to hear that it works for people!






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Muse2noPharaoh said:

:LOL:... i wish i had made up about half of the stories i tell...

it's funny, because i do tease and joke around a hell of a lot, and because some of my real life stories (especially those about my family) are so messed up, that it's often hard for even my closest friends to tell when i'm joking and when i'm serious...

it does work... and like i said, it works much better when people go into these sessions with an open mind... that's probably the single best thing to remember...

well, i guess the other good thing to remember is: although it may sound at times like the shrink is talking crazy, keep in mind that he isn't the one who's fucked up in the head... ... j/k...

REDFEATHERS said:

Thank you so much for the concern. However, It was a joke! Though I do claim to have heard the voice of God once... SO, "someone" thought it was grounds for insanity!

Other then that I am boringly level headed!

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EllisDee said:

Great point!

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Muse2noPharaoh said:

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*Good question..I don't know.*

I am very serious when I say that you should see a psychiatrist as soon as you believe that "god" talks to you. It is in the best interest of everyone around if you just slide right in there and get some Prolixin or maybe some Clozapine to stop the voices.

:LOL:

The obligatory "no offense to Joan of Arc" edit:
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I only do what the voices in my kool-aid tell me to do

REDFEATHERS said:

Except the opinions of DigitalLisa. She's nuts! :O




But I have to agree with Red, if you're going so far as asking about it, it seems to me that you may think you need to see one. I agree it won't hurt. And if you want to continue and don't necessarily feel the methods of that therapist helps, you can always find another therapist whose methods are more conducive to the progress you need. Just as we can choose which medical doctors we see, we can choose which therapist we see.

imo therapy can be helpful. but you have to find the right therapist

Muse2noPharaoh said:

NOW!!!

Supernova said:

Then you agree that if a person has heard God speak into their lives they are

Unless you actually think your God or Jesus. Mental Illness is overlooked by society as a problem. Insane people don't know they are insane they think that everyone else has a problem. Not them. And those that are mentally ill do not go to therapy because in their minds they don't have a problem. Most pick on normal people because they make them feel uncomfortable. They have to start looking at themselves more closely. Not that I am an expert but I know some not normal people they are called section 8's in the military. I just learned to spot someone that is dangerous very fast.

Muse2noPharaoh said:

I'm not sure exactly what you mean when you say that. If you could give me some examples I could give you a lay person's opinion.

Supernova said:

It seems this is a thread to break peples faith. People may contact their creator and still not be crazy. I keep in contact spiritually all the time, i believe there is a higher being and we communicate. Just cause you don't hear the music doesn't mean it's not playing.