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Kevin Spacey Hollyweirdo Sexual Assault

Kevin Spacey is the latest Hollywood icon to be accused of sexual misconduct as actor Anthony Rapp claims Spacey molested him when he was only fourteen.

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Well maybe I can't remember blah blah blah "BUT I'M GAY!" Did Spacey just play that card? More NWO satanic fall out in Hollywood. More will soon fall.

What are you outraged about today? CNN has not told you yet?
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Reply #1 posted 10/30/17 7:06am

Dasein

He's truly fucked.

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Reply #2 posted 10/30/17 7:20am

OldFriends4Sal
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Did it say he molested him or that he came on to him?

He didn't play a card. He went into deeper talk about this.

[Edited 10/30/17 7:28am]

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Reply #3 posted 10/30/17 8:23am

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He said that Spacey came onto him in a very direct way. Kevin Spacey hasn't actually denied it but rather said he didn't remember it. I don't know how drunk you'd have to be not to remember something but the other guy said that Kevin Spacey did appear to be very drunk. But drunk or not, if he did do it, he should be punished for it. But to label him a paedophile is a bit strong without knowing the full details. It will be interesting to see if anyone else comes forward to accuse him of the same thing.
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Reply #4 posted 10/30/17 9:23am

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Biggie. Kevin Spacey did not deny coming on to a 14 yr old boy and came out as gay at the same time.

http://www.hollywoodrepor...on-1052847

Some great tweets.


Ke8beiVC_normal.jpg billy eichner @billyeichner

Kevin Spacey has just invented something that has never existed before: a bad time to come out.

10:15 PM - Oct 29, 2017


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No no no no no! You do not get to “choose” to hide under the rainbow! Kick rocks! https://twitter.com/kevin...971136 …

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Reply #5 posted 10/30/17 10:05am

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This story makes me sick in my gut. I've ranted on social media, but I promise I will try to keep my comments here brief*.

First, in a case of molestation or abuse allegation, you always take the side of the victim until it's either proven to be true or proven to be a lie. You find out the truth one way or the other. But you always, for the moment, side with the victim. That's a part of history you don't wanna be on the wrong side of when it's over.

Second, Spacey - gay. DUH. We've known that for decades.

Third, BEING GAY HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH BEING A SEXUAL PREDATOR. They are mutually exclusive and are wholly unrelated. I've fought this shit, as a gay man, for years with people automatically assuming I'm out to fuck children because I happen to like dick. How people automatically put those two things together only shows a couple of things: a) they're stupid; and b) they're a homophobe.

Fourth, Kevin throwing his little coming out party does nothing but detract from the allegation that a then-28-year-old drunk man carried a 14-year-old boy to his bedroom and laid on top of him, attempting to go much further. Spacey didn't lay on Rapp to keep him warm on a chilly night. He laid on him trying to get laid. Period. Thank God it did not go further than it did. But no grown man should be laying on a child in bed in a sexual (or any) manner.

This has really upset me today. Shame on Kevin for being a predator on a child. I don't necessarily believe he's that way today. (I don't know.) He's grown and probably in a relationship, and I would guess has no real inclinations to fuck children. (But he might.) The incident happened according to Rapp (or we have to assume it did until we know different). They need to hash it out between them, and people need to stop lumping predators in with the LGBTQA community. There is no P in LGBTQA.

*I wasn't brief. No fucks given.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #6 posted 10/30/17 11:11am

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Uh, Kevin Spacey was already known to be gay; I've known it for years.

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https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0
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Reply #7 posted 10/30/17 11:21am

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EmmaMcG said:

He said that Spacey came onto him in a very direct way. Kevin Spacey hasn't actually denied it but rather said he didn't remember it. I don't know how drunk you'd have to be not to remember something but the other guy said that Kevin Spacey did appear to be very drunk. But drunk or not, if he did do it, he should be punished for it. But to label him a paedophile is a bit strong without knowing the full details. It will be interesting to see if anyone else comes forward to accuse him of the same thing.

Right, but even Anthony said, he had no supervision by his mother and ended up at and adult party.
Is it possible that people(Kevin) did not know his age?

Also since nothing really happened, it could be easy to forget being turned down.

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Reply #8 posted 10/30/17 11:26am

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Why is a 46 year old man revealing this now?

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Reply #9 posted 10/30/17 11:40am

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OldFriends4Sale said:

EmmaMcG said:

He said that Spacey came onto him in a very direct way. Kevin Spacey hasn't actually denied it but rather said he didn't remember it. I don't know how drunk you'd have to be not to remember something but the other guy said that Kevin Spacey did appear to be very drunk. But drunk or not, if he did do it, he should be punished for it. But to label him a paedophile is a bit strong without knowing the full details. It will be interesting to see if anyone else comes forward to accuse him of the same thing.

Right, but even Anthony said, he had no supervision by his mother and ended up at and adult party.
Is it possible that people(Kevin) did not know his age?

Also since nothing really happened, it could be easy to forget being turned down.

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This seems to be the likely scenario.

Spacey seems unbothered enough.

I doubt anything else will come out.

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Reply #10 posted 10/30/17 12:02pm

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Watch American Beauty again.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #11 posted 10/30/17 12:40pm

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Dasein said:

He's truly fucked.


It's begun. House of Cards has been canceled by Netflix after season 6.

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Reply #12 posted 10/30/17 1:05pm

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purplethunder3121 said:

Why is a 46 year old man revealing this now?


Because it's his truth. Hollywood controls people through fear and intimidation. It's the season to rise above that. I'll be 50 in March, and it's just been in the last few years that I've been able to talk openly about being sexually abused twice within a year when I was 7, and sexually assaulted at 19 in the military. The truth is the truth, no matter when it comes or where one hears it. It's a terrible burden to carry. Rapp has every right to speak about now - now being when he feels it is the best for him personally. Age is irrelevant.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #13 posted 10/30/17 2:08pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:



EmmaMcG said:


He said that Spacey came onto him in a very direct way. Kevin Spacey hasn't actually denied it but rather said he didn't remember it. I don't know how drunk you'd have to be not to remember something but the other guy said that Kevin Spacey did appear to be very drunk. But drunk or not, if he did do it, he should be punished for it. But to label him a paedophile is a bit strong without knowing the full details. It will be interesting to see if anyone else comes forward to accuse him of the same thing.



Right, but even Anthony said, he had no supervision by his mother and ended up at and adult party.
Is it possible that people(Kevin) did not know his age?


Also since nothing really happened, it could be easy to forget being turned down.



I'd say that's most likely what happened. I think it's very unfair and irresponsible of the media to portray Kevin Spacey as some sort of paedophile before knowing the full story. Then again, it will help sell a few more newspapers or get some more clicks so I don't see them stopping now.
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Reply #14 posted 10/30/17 2:18pm

CynicKill

Netflix has cancelled House of Cards after 6th and final season.

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Reply #15 posted 10/30/17 2:31pm

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He'll do ok.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #16 posted 10/30/17 2:55pm

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He's done some pretty "FORWARD" coming on to people. No news there.


He'd asked my former guitarist's best friend (licensed massage therapist/singer) if he'd like to go to Hawaii with him.... after turning over and flipping his erect schlong out. [during a session]



Now, as much as it might offend PC people.... there are MANY hard sell gay people out there who practially pull some deviant 'rapey' actions.
I'm a straight dude, but I've got friends who aren't.

Won't get into the promiscious stuff, since it's not relevant to the topic at hand. But Spacey is a known gay guy. THat's a funny defense

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Reply #17 posted 10/30/17 3:30pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

This story makes me sick in my gut. I've ranted on social media, but I promise I will try to keep my comments here brief*.

First, in a case of molestation or abuse allegation, you always take the side of the victim until it's either proven to be true or proven to be a lie. You find out the truth one way or the other. But you always, for the moment, side with the victim. That's a part of history you don't wanna be on the wrong side of when it's over.

Second, Spacey - gay. DUH. We've known that for decades.

Third, BEING GAY HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH BEING A SEXUAL PREDATOR. They are mutually exclusive and are wholly unrelated. I've fought this shit, as a gay man, for years with people automatically assuming I'm out to fuck children because I happen to like dick. How people automatically put those two things together only shows a couple of things: a) they're stupid; and b) they're a homophobe.

Fourth, Kevin throwing his little coming out party does nothing but detract from the allegation that a then-28-year-old drunk man carried a 14-year-old boy to his bedroom and laid on top of him, attempting to go much further. Spacey didn't lay on Rapp to keep him warm on a chilly night. He laid on him trying to get laid. Period. Thank God it did not go further than it did. But no grown man should be laying on a child in bed in a sexual (or any) manner.

This has really upset me today. Shame on Kevin for being a predator on a child. I don't necessarily believe he's that way today. (I don't know.) He's grown and probably in a relationship, and I would guess has no real inclinations to fuck children. (But he might.) The incident happened according to Rapp (or we have to assume it did until we know different). They need to hash it out between them, and people need to stop lumping predators in with the LGBTQA community. There is no P in LGBTQA.

*I wasn't brief. No fucks given.

Third, BEING GAY HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH BEING A SEXUAL PREDATOR. Very correct, Triv!!!! Wasn't this fact proven maybe 30 years ago? Then 20 years ago? etc...etc...

Mr. Spacey has a significant body of acting work and I am hoping this was an isolated incident, not a known pattern of behavior. And if isolated, yes he needs to get in front of the issue. AND apologize to the LGBTQA community.

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Reply #18 posted 10/30/17 3:38pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

purplethunder3121 said:

Why is a 46 year old man revealing this now?


Because it's his truth. Hollywood controls people through fear and intimidation. It's the season to rise above that. I'll be 50 in March, and it's just been in the last few years that I've been able to talk openly about being sexually abused twice within a year when I was 7, and sexually assaulted at 19 in the military. The truth is the truth, no matter when it comes or where one hears it. It's a terrible burden to carry. Rapp has every right to speak about now - now being when he feels it is the best for him personally. Age is irrelevant.

Holy crap Triv! I'm glad you've been able to unload that burden. Hollywood is not the only place that controls people through fear and intimidation. disbelief

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Reply #19 posted 10/30/17 3:55pm

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it was 20 years a go..statute of limitations over?

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luvsexy4all said:

it was 20 years a go..statute of limitations over?


So because a statute of limitations might be over, Rapp should just STFU?

There is no statute on telling the truth.

No one's looking for indictments here. It's just about the truth.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #21 posted 10/30/17 4:11pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

luvsexy4all said:

it was 20 years a go..statute of limitations over?


So because a statute of limitations might be over, Rapp should just STFU?

There is no statute on telling the truth.

No one's looking for indictments here. It's just about the truth.

hope corey feldman exposes all of hollywood before he gets bumped off

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luvsexy4all said:

TrivialPursuit said:


So because a statute of limitations might be over, Rapp should just STFU?

There is no statute on telling the truth.

No one's looking for indictments here. It's just about the truth.

hope corey feldman exposes all of hollywood before he gets bumped off

I think he's been avoiding that to protect himself and family. Cause I sure don't think he's making shit up

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Reply #23 posted 10/30/17 4:30pm

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EmmaMcG said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Right, but even Anthony said, he had no supervision by his mother and ended up at and adult party.
Is it possible that people(Kevin) did not know his age?

Also since nothing really happened, it could be easy to forget being turned down.

I'd say that's most likely what happened. I think it's very unfair and irresponsible of the media to portray Kevin Spacey as some sort of paedophile before knowing the full story. Then again, it will help sell a few more newspapers or get some more clicks so I don't see them stopping now.

C'mon, the kid was 14. That is a pedophile. It's not something the media is making up. The media is reporting on the story.


OldFriends, what do you mean nothing actually happened? Penetration may not have happened, but the kid was sexually assualted.

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Reply #24 posted 10/30/17 4:32pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

luvsexy4all said:

it was 20 years a go..statute of limitations over?


So because a statute of limitations might be over, Rapp should just STFU?

There is no statute on telling the truth.

No one's looking for indictments here. It's just about the truth.

Trivial is right.

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Reply #25 posted 10/30/17 4:40pm

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luvsexy4all said:

TrivialPursuit said:


So because a statute of limitations might be over, Rapp should just STFU?

There is no statute on telling the truth.

No one's looking for indictments here. It's just about the truth.

hope corey feldman exposes all of hollywood before he gets bumped off

Feldman wants $$$ to fund his movie, before he will name names.

Corey Feldman sat down on Monday for his first TV interview since launching a campaign to finance a film that would expose a pedophile ring in Hollywood.

Speaking to Matt Lauer on the “Today” show, Feldman did not reveal the names of his alleged harassers from his days as a child star, citing legal ramifications, but he did vow to eventually “release every single name that I have any knowledge of.”

Last week, Feldman launched a campaign to raise $10 million to finance a film about pedophiles in the industry. Lauer pressed Feldman on his hefty goal, which has raised eyebrows. “Why do you need $10 million,” Lauer asked.

“It’s not a documentary. It’s a film. I want to make a feature film, which is why I need the budget,” Feldman reasoned. “It will be a very true story. We will have every name … we’re talking about a theatrical release.”

Lauer brought up Feldman’s 2013 memoir, “Coreyography,” asking “The Goonies” actor why he didn’t release names in that book.

“The publishers prevented me to name names,” Feldman said, “which is why I’m taking the matter into my own hands.”

So far, Feldman’s campaign has raised roughly $200,000. Lauer questioned Feldman about why he’s taking time to collect money for a feature film, instead of going to the police and releasing the names sooner. Feldman said he did go to the police back in the early ’90s, and gave the names during in interview investigation Michael Jackson. Feldman says the police never investigated his claims.

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Reply #26 posted 10/30/17 4:43pm

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PennyPurple said:

EmmaMcG said:

OldFriends4Sale said: I'd say that's most likely what happened. I think it's very unfair and irresponsible of the media to portray Kevin Spacey as some sort of paedophile before knowing the full story. Then again, it will help sell a few more newspapers or get some more clicks so I don't see them stopping now.

C'mon, the kid was 14. That is a pedophile. It's not something the media is making up. The media is reporting on the story.


OldFriends, what do you mean nothing actually happened? Penetration may not have happened, but the kid was sexually assualted.

It isn't a pedophile. Pedophilia is connected to 13yrs and younger

Pedophilia or paedophilia is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children. Although girls typically begin the process of puberty at age 10 or 11, and boys at age 11 or 12, criteria for pedophilia extend the cut-off point for prepubescence to age 13. A person who is diagnosed with pedophilia must be at least 16 years old, and at least five years older than the prepubescent child, for the attraction to be diagnosed as pedophilia

Reply was to SuperFurryAnimal post the Kevin 'molested' him.

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Reply #27 posted 10/30/17 4:45pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

luvsexy4all said:

it was 20 years a go..statute of limitations over?


So because a statute of limitations might be over, Rapp should just STFU?

There is no statute on telling the truth.

No one's looking for indictments here. It's just about the truth.

My question when reading about this is, that Anthony was telling everyone not long after it happened.
He said he told people he worked with, told his brother(or brother in law) etc way into the 90s.
Why this way and now?

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Reply #28 posted 10/30/17 4:52pm

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My bad. The age of 14 is still a child. And also to add, it was your post #7 that was replying to Emma, that I was referring to.

As child sexual abuse is not automatically an indicator that its perpetrator is a pedophile, offenders can be separated into two types: pedophilic and non-pedophilic (or preferential and situational).

OldFriends4Sale said:

PennyPurple said:

C'mon, the kid was 14. That is a pedophile. It's not something the media is making up. The media is reporting on the story.


OldFriends, what do you mean nothing actually happened? Penetration may not have happened, but the kid was sexually assualted.

It isn't a pedophile. Pedophilia is connected to 13yrs and younger

Pedophilia or paedophilia is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children. Although girls typically begin the process of puberty at age 10 or 11, and boys at age 11 or 12, criteria for pedophilia extend the cut-off point for prepubescence to age 13. A person who is diagnosed with pedophilia must be at least 16 years old, and at least five years older than the prepubescent child, for the attraction to be diagnosed as pedophilia

Reply was to SuperFurryAnimal post the Kevin 'molested' him.

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EmmaMcG said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Right, but even Anthony said, he had no supervision by his mother and ended up at and adult party.
Is it possible that people(Kevin) did not know his age?

Also since nothing really happened, it could be easy to forget being turned down.

I'd say that's most likely what happened. I think it's very unfair and irresponsible of the media to portray Kevin Spacey as some sort of paedophile before knowing the full story. Then again, it will help sell a few more newspapers or get some more clicks so I don't see them stopping now.

Right.

There was a school teacher last year (female) who was having sex with one of her male students 15yrs old. And all she got was community services literally.

I'm iffy about the way Anthony is telling this now, even though he's told almost everyone he knew back in the late 80s and 90s. All it takes is the suspicion for a mans life to be destroyed on something like this. I don't know if this is the best way.

Reminds me of Lour Ferrigno's wife when the Cosby accusations came out. She said back in 1967 Bill tried to kiss her at a bar and it scarred her for life. wtf


The women coming forward about Harvey is an issue of abuse of power. Kevin was a nobody when that happened.

I want to know if people knew Anthony's age, it seemed no one thought it strange that a 14yr old kid was at this party.

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