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Reply #240 posted 11/06/17 1:30pm

morningsong

How do you quantify "damage"? Wait until they commit suicide or something?

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Reply #241 posted 11/06/17 1:49pm

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How do you quantify "damage"? Wait until they commit suicide or something?

Well, good question and no idea, but i don't believe something like could damage someone, let alone for so long. It may have been shockin for him but damaging, i don't think so. But who knows.

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Reply #242 posted 11/06/17 3:03pm

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Not sure if these have been posted yet, they are the full stories of what happened to them.

Anthony Rapp's full story here

Harry Dreyfuss' recount.

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Reply #243 posted 11/06/17 4:51pm

CynicKill

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214 said:

Different perspectives i guess, sorry but i don't see what he did to Anthony as something as serious or reprehensible as most of you.

And apparently not even as much as Spacey cause he apologized for it So the offender himself felt it was wrong. And trotted off to therapy, I believe. [Edited 11/6/17 16:21pm]

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No Spacey doesn't even remember the encounter.

He did say it was unacceptable behavior.

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Reply #244 posted 11/06/17 4:53pm

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CynicKill said:

purplefam99 said:

214 said: And apparently not even as much as Spacey cause he apologized for it So the offender himself felt it was wrong. And trotted off to therapy, I believe. [Edited 11/6/17 16:21pm]

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No Spacey doesn't even remember the encounter.

He did say it was unacceptable behavior.

Wonder if he remembers the 8 from House of Cards?

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Reply #245 posted 11/06/17 5:52pm

purplefam99

CynicKill said:



purplefam99 said:


214 said:


Different perspectives i guess, sorry but i don't see what he did to Anthony as something as serious or reprehensible as most of you.



And apparently not even as much as Spacey cause he apologized for it So the offender himself felt it was wrong. And trotted off to therapy, I believe. [Edited 11/6/17 16:21pm]

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No Spacey doesn't even remember the encounter.


He did say it was unacceptable behavior.





There were so many they are all a blur.
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Reply #246 posted 11/06/17 7:15pm

benni

Statistics about sexual abuse:


Child Sexual Abuse Facts

Child sexual abuse is an issue that makes people extremely uncomfortable, because it hurts to think about anyone harming children. However, unreported or untreated child sexual abuse not only scars children and destroys families, it also leaves offenders free to abuse and cripple future generations.

Be informed of the Statistics!

How often does child sexual abuse take place?

FACT: The real prevalence of child sexual abuse is not known because so many victims do not disclose or report their abuse. Researchers have suggested rates varying from 1% to 35%. Most professionals in the field of abuse use rates from 8% to 20%.

FACT: Even if the true prevalence of child sexual abuse is not known, most will agree that there will be 500,000 babies born in the US this year that will be sexually abused before they turn 18 if we do not prevent it.

  • Adult retrospective studies show that 1 in 4 women and 1 in 6 men were sexually abused before the age of 18 (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, 2006). This means there are more than 42 million adult survivors of child sexual abuse in the U.S.
  • The primary reason that the public is not sufficiently aware of child sexual abuse as a problem is that 73% of child victims do not tell anyone about the abuse for at least a year. 45% of victims do not tell anyone for at least 5 years. Some never disclose (Smith et al., 2000; Broman-Fulks et al., 2007

FACT: Most people think of adult rape as a crime of great proportion and significance. Most are unaware that children are victimized at a much higher rate than adults.

  • Nearly 70% of all reported sexual assaults (including assaults on adults) occur to children ages 17 and under (Snyder, 2000).
  • Youths have higher rates of sexual assault victimization than adults. In 2000, the sexual assault victimization rate for youths 12 to 17 was 2.3 times higher than for adults (U.S. Dept. of Justice, Bureau of Justice Statistics, 2000).

Understand the Risk Factors!

Are there certain factors that make a child more vunerable to child sexual abuse?

FACT: Children of every gender, age, race, ethnicity, background, socioeconomic status and family structure are at risk. No child is immune.

FACT: Family and acquaintance child sexual abuse perpetrators have reported that they look for specific characteristics in the children they choose to abuse.

  • Perpetrators report that they look for passive, quiet, troubled, lonely children from single parent or broken homes (Budin & Johnson 1989).
  • Perpetrators frequently seek out children who are particularly trusting (Conte et al., 1987) and work proactively to establish a trusting relationship before abusing them (Budin & Johnson, 1989; Conte, Wolfe, & Smith, 1989; Elliott et al., 1995; Warner-Kearney, 1987). Not infrequently, this extends to establishing a trusting relationship with the victim’s family as well (Elliott et al., 1995).

FACT: There are child and family characteristics that significantly heighten or lower risk of sexual abuse. The following risk factors are based on reported and identified cases of abuse.

  • Family structure is the most important risk factor in child sexual abuse. Children who live with two married biological parents are at low risk for abuse. The risk increases when children live with step-parents or a single parent. Children living without either parent (foster children) are 10 times more likely to be sexually abused than children that live with both biological parents. Children who live with a single parent that has a live-in partner are at the highest risk: they are 20 times more likely to be victims of child sexual abuse than children living with both biological parents (Sedlack, et. al., 2010).
  • Gender is also a major factor in sexual abuse. Females are 5 times more likely to be abused than males (Sedlack, et. al., 2010). The age of the male being abused also plays a part. 8% of victims age 12-17 are male. 26% of victims under the age of 12 are male (Snyder, 2000).
  • Age is a significant factor in sexual abuse. While there is risk for children of all ages, children are most vulnerable to abuse between the ages of 7 and 13 (Finkelhor, 1994). The median age for reported abuse is 9 years old (Putnam, 2003). However, more than 20% of children are sexually abused before the age of 8 (Snyder, 2000).
  • Race and ethnicity are an important factor in identified sexual abuse. African American children have almost twice the risk of sexual abuse than white children. Children of Hispanic ethnicity have a slightly greater risk than non-Hispanic white children (Sedlack, et. al., 2010).
  • The risk for sexual abuse is tripled for children whose parent(s) are not in the labor force (Sedlack, et. al., 2010).
  • Children in low socioeconomic status households are 3 times as likely to be identified as a victim of child abuse (Sedlack, et. al., 2010).
  • Most studies have reported that children with disabilities are at greater risk for sexual abuse. The latest research identified incidents of child sexual abuse involving children with disabilities at only half the rate of their non-disabled peers.
  • Children who live in rural areas are almost 2 times more likely to be identified as victims of child sexual abuse (Sedlack, et. al., 2010).
  • Children who witness or are the victim of other crimes are significantly more likely to be sexually abused (Finkelhor, 2010).

What is child sexual abuse?

It is any sexual activity between adults and minors or between two minors when one forces it on the other.

This includes sexual touching and non-touching acts like exhibitionism, exposure to pornography, photography of a child for sexual gratification, solicitation of a child for prostitution, voyeurism and communication in a sexual way by phone, Internet or face-to-face.

It is a crime punishable by law that must be reported.

Who are the perpetrators?

Most child sexual abusers are men, and may be respected members of the community drawn to settings where they gain easy access to children like schools, clubs and churches. They come from all age groups, races, religions and socioeconomic classes.

Most victims know and trust their abusers. It isn’t strangers our children have to fear most..

According to the Texas Department of Criminal Justice, 21% of all paroled sex offenders in Texas reside in Harris County..

When, Where and How does child sexual abuse happen?

FACT: Many perpetrators "groom" victims and their families.

  • Many establish a trusting relationship with the victim’s family (Elliott et al., 1995), in order to gain access to the child (Berliner & Conte, 1990; Conte et al., 1989).
  • Perpetrators employ successively inappropriate comments and increasingly inappropriate touches and behaviors so insidious that the abuse is often well under way before the child recognizes the situation as sexual or inappropriate (Berliner & Conte, 1990; Conte et al., 1989).
  • Strategies employed to gain the compliance of victims include the addition and withdrawal of inducements (attention, material goods, and privileges), misrepresentation of society’s morals and standards and/or the abusive acts themselves, and externalization of responsibility for the abuse onto the victim (Berliner & Conte, 1990; Conte et al., 1989).
  • 35% of convicted child molesters use threats of violence to keep children from disclosing the abuse. General threats and physical force are also used to prevent detection (Ohio Department of Corrections, 1992).

FACT: Child sexual abuse often takes place under specific, often surprising circumstances. It is helpful to know these circumstances because it allows for the development of strategies to avoid child sexual abuse.

  • 81% of child sexual abuse incidents for all ages occur in one-perpetrator/one-child circumstances. 6-11 year old children are most likely (23%) to be abused in multi-victim circumstances (Snyder, 2000).
  • Most sexual abuse of children occurs in a residence, typically that of the victim or perpetrator. 84% of sexual victimization of children under age 12 occurs in a residence. Even older children are most likely to be assaulted in a residence. 71% of sexual assaults on children age 12-17 occur in a residence (Snyder, 2000).
  • Sexual assaults on children are most likely to occur at 8 a.m., noon and 3-4 p.m. For older children, ages 12-17, there is also a peak in assaults in the late evening hours (Snyder, 2000).
  • 1 in 7 incidents of sexual assault perpetrated by juveniles occur on school days in the after-school hours between 3 and 7 p.m., with a peak from 3 – 4 pm (Snyder, 2000).

What are the signs of possible sexual abuse?

Most victims do not display physical evidence of their abuse because of the body’s ability to heal rapidly. However, any genital irritation, infections or painful bowel movements should be investigated immediately..

Behavioral signs are more common and can include depression, anxiety, anger, loss of appetite, withdrawal from normal activities, substance abuse, self-mutilation, fear of certain places or people, bed-wetting, night sweats, nightmares and thoughts of suicide..

Also be aware of sexual acting out and language that is not age-appropriate.

What are the Long Term Consequences of Child Sexual Abuse for Society?

Few have ever given thought to the tremendous impact child sexual abuse has on the economy and social fabric of our society. Child sexual abuse is at the root of many societal problems. If we examine each of the common individual consequences of child sexual abuse in light of the prevalence rate, we can see how child sexual abuse has ramifications for each and every one of us.

FACT: Child sexual abuse plays an important role in the cost of mental health services.

  • The direct cost of mental health is more than $97 billion annually in 2010 dollars (Mark, et. al., 1998). Indirect costs add another $110 billion or more annually in 2010 dollars (Rice & Miller, 1996). If child sexual abuse victims have a doubled risk for mental health conditions (Rohde, et. al., 2008; Dube,et. al., 2005; Waldrop, et. al., 2007; Day, et. al., 2003; Kendler, et. al., 2000; Voeltanz, et. al., 1999), logic suggests that child sexual abuse is responsible for annual mental health costs of at least $20 billion.

FACT: Teen pregnancy is a long-term, expensive societal problem. Child sexual abuse is a major factor in teenage pregnancy rates.

  • The U.S. government estimates that teen pregnancy costs the nation over $9 billion annually (National Campaign to Prevent Teen Pregnancy, 2004). If the applicable research (Noll, Shenk, & Putnam, 2009) is accurate, logic suggests that over $2 billion of this is attributable to child sexual abuse.

FACT: Over-sexualized behavior, common for child sexual abuse victims, can lead to an increased risk of sexually-transmitted diseases.

  • Sexually-transmitted diseases cost this nation $8.4 billion annually (Kaiser Family Foundation, 1997). If the research is accurate (Zierler, et. al., 1991: Allers, et. al., 1993; Dekker, et. al., 1990), logic tells us that over $1.5 billion of this is attributable to child sexual abuse.
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Reply #247 posted 11/06/17 7:16pm

benni

Mental Health Issues Resulting from Sexual Assault

Sexual abuse teaches victims that their bodies are not really their own. Victims often report feelings such as shame, terror, depression, and guilt, and many blame themselves for the assault. Some of the mental health challenges survivors of sexual abuse face include:

  • Depression: The loss of bodily autonomy is often difficult to cope with. It can create feelings of hopelessness, despondency, and lead to diminishment in one's sense of self-worth. These feelings can lead to depression that may range from mild and fleeting to intense and debilitating.
  • Anxiety: For many people who struggle with anxiety, the feelings have no clear source. But for sexual abuse survivors, the loss of bodily autonomy, coupled with the fear that the attack could happen again, can cause intense anxiety. Some may develop agoraphobia and become terrified to leave their homes. Others suffer panic attacks, symptoms of physical anxiety, or a chronic fear of the type of person who harmed them. Someone who was raped by a tall, fair-haired man with blue eyes may instinctively dislike, mistrust, or fear all men encountered who match that description.
  • Posttraumatic stress: Posttraumatic stress (PTSD) might be described in this case as anxiety, depression, and intense memories of the abuse. Intensely disruptive flashbacks may occur, and in some cases they might even cause an abuse survivor to lose track of surroundings. A related condition, complex posttraumatic stress (C-PTSD), yields symptoms of traditional PTSD as well as a chronic fear of abandonment. Some people with C-PTSD also experience personality disruptions.
  • Personality disruptions: Some evidence suggests that personality disruptions such as borderline personality can sometimes be the result of sexual abuse. The behavior associated with these personality disruptions could actually be an adaption to abuse. For instance, a characteristic of borderline personality is a fear of abandonment. While that fear might not make sense in adulthood, avoiding abandonment might have been what protected someone from childhood abuse.
  • Attachment disruptions: It can be challenging, particularly in children who have been abused, to form healthy attachments with others. Adults who were abused as children may experience insecure attachment patterns, struggle with intimacy, or be too eager to form close attachments.
  • Addiction: Research suggests that abuse survivors are 26 times more likely to use drugs. Drugs and alcohol can help numb the pain of abuse, but often, substance abuse can lead to the development of different concerns.
  • Triggers: Triggers are stimuli that remind survivors of the abuse they experienced. A rape victim whose attacker chewed spearmint gum might be triggered into a flashback by the smell of spearmint, for example. Though triggers vary widely, violence, subsequent abuse, and intense discussions of abuse are among the most common triggers.

Sexual abuse does not only leave psychological scars. It can also have long-lasting health consequences. A person who is assaulted may sustain bruises and cuts or more severe injuries such as knife wounds, sprained or broken bones, and torn or damaged genitals. Some victims develop sexually transmitted infections. Others may become pregnant as the result of an attack. Survivors may also experience health concerns such as chronic pain, sexual dysfunction, fertility problems, and decreased immunity, as well as other unexplained aches, pains, or illnesses.

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Reply #248 posted 11/07/17 10:59am

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1973 Ringo Starr 'You're Sixteen You're Beautiful and You're Mine'

I heard this one the oldies station yesterday

Of course that was a different time, not long ago, and maybe his age was in close approximation with the object of his affection.

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Reply #249 posted 11/07/17 11:42am

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OldFriends4Sale said:

1973 Ringo Starr 'You're Sixteen You're Beautiful and You're Mine'

I heard this one the oldies station yesterday

Of course that was a different time, not long ago, and maybe his age was in close approximation with the object of his affection.

tease C'mon 'You're Sixteen' was a song written by the Sherman Bros. and it was 1st performed by Johnny Burnette and used as the theme song in American Graffiti..which is about a group of teens. Ringo did a remake of the song.

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Reply #250 posted 11/07/17 11:58am

OldFriends4Sal
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PennyPurple said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

1973 Ringo Starr 'You're Sixteen You're Beautiful and You're Mine'

I heard this one the oldies station yesterday

Of course that was a different time, not long ago, and maybe his age was in close approximation with the object of his affection.

tease C'mon 'You're Sixteen' was a song written by the Sherman Bros. and it was 1st performed by Johnny Burnette and used as the theme song in American Graffiti..which is about a group of teens. Ringo did a remake of the song.

I'm not judging it lol like I said it was a different time etc it just gave a little jolt.

They were in their mid-late 40s when they wrote it

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Reply #251 posted 11/07/17 12:07pm

purplefam99

OldFriends4Sale said:

PennyPurple said:

tease C'mon 'You're Sixteen' was a song written by the Sherman Bros. and it was 1st performed by Johnny Burnette and used as the theme song in American Graffiti..which is about a group of teens. Ringo did a remake of the song.

I'm not judging it lol like I said it was a different time etc it just gave a little jolt.

They were in their mid-late 40s when they wrote it

so a song gave you a jolt in regards to underage sexual attraction, but the numerous stories about

Spacey not so much???

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Reply #252 posted 11/07/17 12:08pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

PennyPurple said:

tease C'mon 'You're Sixteen' was a song written by the Sherman Bros. and it was 1st performed by Johnny Burnette and used as the theme song in American Graffiti..which is about a group of teens. Ringo did a remake of the song.

I'm not judging it lol like I said it was a different time etc it just gave a little jolt.

They were in their mid-late 40s when they wrote it

And they worked for Disney, and wrote, It's a Small World. biggrin

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Reply #253 posted 11/07/17 12:49pm

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https://www.change.org/p/...vin-spacey

Petition to replace Kevin Spacey with Kevin James.

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Reply #254 posted 11/07/17 12:57pm

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Hudson said:

https://www.change.org/p/...vin-spacey

Petition to replace Kevin Spacey with Kevin James.

funny!!!! who would be a good replacement?? hmmm

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Reply #255 posted 11/07/17 12:57pm

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Hudson said:

https://www.change.org/p/...vin-spacey

Petition to replace Kevin Spacey with Kevin James.

No thanks. lol

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Reply #256 posted 11/07/17 2:04pm

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Hudson said:

https://www.change.org/p/...vin-spacey

Petition to replace Kevin Spacey with Kevin James.

Image result for kevin james reaction gif

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0
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Reply #257 posted 11/07/17 2:20pm

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purplefam99 said:

Hudson said:

https://www.change.org/p/...vin-spacey

Petition to replace Kevin Spacey with Kevin James.

funny!!!! who would be a good replacement?? hmmm

Image result for margaret thatcher gif

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0
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Reply #258 posted 11/07/17 2:55pm

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PennyPurple said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I'm not judging it lol like I said it was a different time etc it just gave a little jolt.

They were in their mid-late 40s when they wrote it

And they worked for Disney, and wrote, It's a Small World. biggrin

lol

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Reply #259 posted 11/07/17 2:57pm

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Reply #260 posted 11/07/17 2:59pm

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PennyPurple said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

1973 Ringo Starr 2.'You're Sixteen You're Beautiful and You're Mine'

I heard this one the oldies station yesterday

Of course that was a different time, not long ago, and maybe his age was in close approximation with the object of his affection.

tease C'mon 'You're Sixteen' was a song written by the Sherman Bros. and it was 1st performed by Johnny Burnette and used as the theme song in 1.American Graffiti..which is about a group of teens. Ringo did a remake of the song.


1. PennyPurple, American Graffiti, the film for which Richard Dreyfuss* was nominated for Golden Globe Arward (Best Actor).

*father of Harry Dreyfuss, one of Kevin Spacey's victim, which takes us back on track...

2. But anyway, what has all this got to do with 'age' OldFriend? The majority of your posts in this thread seem to say that age is the main criteria in identifying whether there is a sexual assault or not.

A sexual assault is a forced sexual act upon another person against his/her will. This can happen regardless of age, culture, historical times, genders, sexual orientation, the types of furniture that the victim is sitting on, or even whether the two persons are legally married or not.

There seems to be a confusion here, between the notion of illicit relationship and that of sexual assault.

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Reply #261 posted 11/07/17 3:13pm

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Hudson said:

Related image

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0
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Reply #262 posted 11/08/17 11:10am

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RUMOR has it, it was Charlie Sheen who raped Cory Haim on the set of Lucas.

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Reply #263 posted 11/08/17 11:15am

purplefam99

PennyPurple said:

RUMOR has it, it was Charlie Sheen who raped Cory Haim on the set of Lucas.




Noooo how awful if so. Breaking news??
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Reply #264 posted 11/08/17 11:25am

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purplefam99 said:

PennyPurple said:

RUMOR has it, it was Charlie Sheen who raped Cory Haim on the set of Lucas.

Noooo how awful if so. Breaking news??

Also he possibly did it to Corey Feldman on the same set.


Nothing has been confirmed yet.

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Reply #265 posted 11/08/17 11:38am

purplefam99

PennyPurple said:



purplefam99 said:


PennyPurple said:

RUMOR has it, it was Charlie Sheen who raped Cory Haim on the set of Lucas.



Noooo how awful if so. Breaking news??

Also he possibly did it to Corey Feldman on the same set.



Nothing has been confirmed yet.




Heart sick. sad At all of it.
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Reply #266 posted 11/08/17 12:07pm

poppys

https://www.msn.com/en-us...smsnnews11

USA TODAY

Ex-TV anchor accuses Spacey of abusing son


Kevin Spacey has been accused by more than a dozen men who say he sexually harassed, groped, assaulted or attempted to rape them in allegations spanning decades since Oct. 29.

Heather Unruh, a former TV news anchor in Boston, said in a press conference Wednesday that the Oscar-winning actor assaulted her son, who was 18 at the time. Holding back tears, Unruh said in July 2016 that Spacey stuck his hand in her son’s pants and on his genitals at a bar in Nantucket, Mass. ( more)


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Uhruh appeared with an attorney who has represented victims of clergy sexual abuse. I guess hands down the pants is one of his signature moves.


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Reply #267 posted 11/08/17 2:31pm

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More people have now come forward.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news...s-41918966


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Reply #268 posted 11/08/17 3:32pm

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Spacey is toast.

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Reply #269 posted 11/08/17 3:48pm

morningsong

I actually wanted to post, "Another one bites the dust" but thought that might get taken incorrectly so enjoy this but think bite and dust.


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