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Reply #30 posted 04/13/03 1:43pm

Paisley

CarrieMpls said:

Paisley said:

CarrieMpls said:

Paisley said:


Ok you got me there, but why cant they show ads for tampons on just the Lifetime channel for women then?


I don't personally know any women who watch the Lifetime Network. Only gay men. And that just grosses them out.

What grosses them out the Lifetime channel or ads for tampons?


Tampon ads. Try talking about your period to your best gay buddy.

I personally can't stand the Lifetime network, but many of my gay friends love the Golden Girls and Designing Women reruns, not to mention the "I can't leave without my blind, domestically abused daughter" movies of the week starring Meredith Baxter-Birney and Justine Bateman.

How come men get so grossed-out when women talk about their periods?
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Reply #31 posted 04/13/03 1:50pm

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Paisley said:


How come men get so grossed-out when women talk about their periods?


In general, they don't. But it's been my experience that many gay men do. But, obviously, not all.
And I'm guessing they're probably grossed out cause cause it's just so foreign to them, and something they don't ever have to nor want to deal with.
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Reply #32 posted 04/13/03 1:57pm

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open up any magazine like details or maxim, and you will see that print advertising is now exploiting men as sex objects just as much as women... ( can anyone say abercrombie and fitch) soon it will catch up in other media. And there are those low budget commercials for jock itch, but its not a huge common occurance like a period...


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If you think about it women are so degraded on tv, they will show a woman butt nekkid on tv but you never see a man in full flesh "well except for in porn", and all you see on tv is ad's for tampons and kotex, have you ever seen a ad for jock itch? NO, why are women always getting shafted?
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Reply #33 posted 04/13/03 2:30pm

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Paisley said:

If you think about it women are so degraded on tv, they will show a woman butt nekkid on tv but you never see a man in full flesh "well except for in porn", and all you see on tv is ad's for tampons and kotex, have you ever seen a ad for jock itch? NO, why are women always getting shafted?



You don't see naked men in American TV? Really?omg
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Reply #34 posted 04/13/03 2:31pm

Paisley

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Paisley said:

If you think about it women are so degraded on tv, they will show a woman butt nekkid on tv but you never see a man in full flesh "well except for in porn", and all you see on tv is ad's for tampons and kotex, have you ever seen a ad for jock itch? NO, why are women always getting shafted?



You don't see naked men in American TV? Really?omg

Yeah they show'em naked they just dont show the schlong.
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Reply #35 posted 04/13/03 2:32pm

DORA

im all for it
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Reply #36 posted 04/13/03 3:11pm

BrianFellows

Personally, I am a big fan of DEGRADING WOMEN. I wish we still had it around today, because it used to make me laugh so much back when it was popular. I think I liked Della Burke the best on that show but it went downhill when they put on that blonde woman who used to be on that stupid show with the Coneheads. I like how they were all from the South and got in crazy situations every week. I would like to start a DEGRADING WOMEN fanclub!!!
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Reply #37 posted 04/13/03 3:23pm

NewAgeGirl

are you sure these are the best examples, i mean were you serious? when i think about women being degraded i think more about the # of women who are raped, murdered, beaten, ridiculed, taken for granted than about kotex.
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Reply #38 posted 04/13/03 3:39pm

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Here is my thoughts on this!

As far as the feminine hygiene products... this is all bout making money, has nothing to do with degrading a woman. They have to advertise their product. I have seen the commercial for Blue Star Ointment many times and I woudnt consider that degrading a man. There are just some things that are part of life and womens menstrual cycles are just that... part of life.

As far as nudity? I think woman are shown nude more frequently because woman are sensaul creatures. Their bodies are viewed as beautiful where as I am not so sure how I would feel about seeing a mans "hootie hoo" staring at me when I am watching a movie except for the single fact of interest in size of the actor! Men's "hootie hoo's" are not the most attractive things to see especially in the heat of the moment, romantic love seen.
He calls me "Holi" cuz he says everyday w/ me is like a Holiday...
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Reply #39 posted 04/13/03 3:42pm

MrBliss

Paisley said:

why are women always getting shafted?



cause they like it
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Reply #40 posted 04/13/03 3:45pm

mcmeekle

luv4thepurple1 said:

Here is my thoughts on this!

As far as the feminine hygiene products... this is all bout making money, has nothing to do with degrading a woman. They have to advertise their product. I have seen the commercial for Blue Star Ointment many times and I woudnt consider that degrading a man. There are just some things that are part of life and womens menstrual cycles are just that... part of life.

As far as nudity? I think woman are shown nude more frequently because woman are sensaul creatures. Their bodies are viewed as beautiful where as I am not so sure how I would feel about seeing a mans "hootie hoo" staring at me when I am watching a movie except for the single fact of interest in size of the actor! Men's "hootie hoo's" are not the most attractive things to see especially in the heat of the moment, romantic love seen.


I say we should see more!
Up with hootie hoo's!! yay!
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Reply #41 posted 04/13/03 8:54pm

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Paisley said:

If you think about it women are so degraded on tv, they will show a woman butt nekkid on tv but you never see a man in full flesh "well except for in porn", and all you see on tv is ad's for tampons and kotex, have you ever seen a ad for jock itch? NO, why are women always getting shafted?



Because you are not men! Duh!!!...gigglin! whap!!

DEAL WITH IT!!... not condoning it...but...DEAL WITH IT ANYWAY!!!...:EVILLOL:
The man who does not read good books has no advantage over the man who cannot read them. -- Mark Twain.

BOB JOHNSON IS PART OF THE PROBLEM!!
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Reply #42 posted 04/13/03 8:56pm

Paisley

DexMSR said:

Paisley said:

If you think about it women are so degraded on tv, they will show a woman butt nekkid on tv but you never see a man in full flesh "well except for in porn", and all you see on tv is ad's for tampons and kotex, have you ever seen a ad for jock itch? NO, why are women always getting shafted?



Because you are not men! Duh!!!...gigglin! whap!!

DEAL WITH IT!!... not condoning it...but...DEAL WITH IT ANYWAY!!!...:EVILLOL:

Oh stfu mad
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Reply #43 posted 04/13/03 8:57pm

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I want to see A man on tv explaining that the jock itch cream changed his life ...time 4 men to be shown up
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Reply #44 posted 04/13/03 9:10pm

Paisley

utopia7 said:

I want to see A man on tv explaining that the jock itch cream changed his life ...time 4 men to be shown up

nodnod
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Reply #45 posted 04/13/03 9:25pm

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luv4thepurple1 said:

As far as nudity? I think woman are shown nude more frequently because woman are sensaul creatures. Their bodies are viewed as beautiful where as I am not so sure how I would feel about seeing a mans "hootie hoo" staring at me when I am watching a movie except for the single fact of interest in size of the actor! Men's "hootie hoo's" are not the most attractive things to see especially in the heat of the moment, romantic love seen.

Someone really has a bridge to sell you.

Women are shown more frequently because the media is male dominated. Don't fool yourself.
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #46 posted 04/14/03 12:20am

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Women have been struggling to be equal to men. Women can live without men. Women have struggled for equality in areas of work, and voting. We still have a long way to go.
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Reply #47 posted 04/14/03 7:13am

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DigitalLisa said:

as far as i'm concerned everybody is degarded on tv, especaily minorities, gays and little people smile

well short peeople becasue short people got no reason to live
they got beady little eyes, and tiny little feet


God bless 'em and their lil' hairy footed hobbit ways. pray
"I ordered no broth! Away with ye lest my cane find your backside!!"- Ralph Wiggum, Actor.
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Reply #48 posted 04/14/03 7:34am

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luv4u said:[quote]Women have been struggling to be equal to men.
Women can live without men.


I'm sorry but every single group that you can think of has struggled in some form or another. Women are no different. As a species to say that women can live without men is illogical. I'm not saying that their struggle for equality is not valid; however, I DO think there are some out there who are a bit overzealous. As a result, all that happens is that their "struggle" becomes an excuse to engage in male bashing. Their "struggle" is now reduced to nothing more than an exercise to act out female frustrations and insecurities.
"I ordered no broth! Away with ye lest my cane find your backside!!"- Ralph Wiggum, Actor.
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Reply #49 posted 04/14/03 8:11am

crazyhorse

The way I see it is that television and the motion pictures dont degrade anyone.Those people are actors/actresses that read the script and chose to take the part etc...Meaning that they degraded themselves if anything.No one held a gun to there heads forcing them into a situation,it was there own free will.
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Reply #50 posted 04/14/03 8:30am

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Okay, I think much of the media DOES degrade women. That having been said, I think you're really stretching it to say that feminine hygeine product ads are "degrading". Any company that makes an in-demand product (in this case, a product that 54% of the population might need), is going to advertise. They are going to try to make their product appear better than their competition's, so they advertise. I also see commercial's for hemmroid ointments, adult diapers, laxatives, jock itch/ athlete's foot remedies, birth control and post-menopausal drugs. These are all targeted to various groups who may have to deal these problems, so that said groups will buy the products that remedy them.

If you want to focus on the degradation of women, then look at more valid examples in the media. Most women need tampons, so commercials will always exist for them. How are those commercials any different than those for Viagra (which, in my opinion, address a much more embarrasing problem for a man than a period is for a woman)?
jedi

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Reply #51 posted 04/14/03 12:10pm

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crazyhorse said:

The way I see it is that television and the motion pictures dont degrade anyone.Those people are actors/actresses that read the script and chose to take the part etc...Meaning that they degraded themselves if anything.No one held a gun to there heads forcing them into a situation,it was there own free will.


Interesting point and I agree to an extent. The responsibility IS upon the actors/actresses accepting the parts. However if the only roles available were degrading, actors would have no alternative other than to accept it if they wanted to work. For example, the actor Paul Robeson was an accomplished stage actor but the only roles that were offered to him back in the twenties confuse, was that of a "savage" from the jungle. This stereotype was what white America wanted to see back then and if Black actors wanted to work, this was the only game in town so to speak.

In today's world, the questions have to be asked,"Are the roles offered today any different then the ones offered previously? Can I refuse these roles becuase there ARE other ones that "paint a better light?"

If the answer is yes, then actors can validly say that yes the roles offered to them are degrading.
"I ordered no broth! Away with ye lest my cane find your backside!!"- Ralph Wiggum, Actor.
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Reply #52 posted 04/14/03 12:20pm

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It's really the fault of the evil white males out there.
"You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "

Al Pacino- Scarface
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Reply #53 posted 04/14/03 12:25pm

TheMico

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It's really the fault of the evil white males out there.

It's the fault of $. As long as it's profiable, and as long as women themselves keep taking their clothes off for money, women will be naked in the media.
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Reply #54 posted 04/14/03 2:05pm

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EvilWhiteMale said:

It's really the fault of the evil white males out there.


lol
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Do not hurry yourself in your spirit to become offended, for the taking of offense is what rests in the bosom of the stupid ones. (Ecclesiastes 7:9)
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Reply #55 posted 04/14/03 2:11pm

TheGillman

I never degrade women. I bend them over a pedestal!
[This message was edited Mon Apr 14 14:12:07 PDT 2003 by TheGillman]
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Reply #56 posted 04/14/03 2:12pm

Paisley

TheGillman said:

I never degrade women. I bend them over a pedestal!
[This message was edited Mon Apr 14 14:12:07 PDT 2003 by TheGillman]

That's not funny! madmadmad
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Reply #57 posted 04/14/03 2:20pm

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Paisley said:

TheGillman said:

I never degrade women. I bend them over a pedestal!
[This message was edited Mon Apr 14 14:12:07 PDT 2003 by TheGillman]

That's not funny! madmadmad


Ahhh, the famous Paisley sense of humour rears its head again! What do you find funny, episodes of Full House?
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Reply #58 posted 04/14/03 2:22pm

Paisley

JediMaster said:

Paisley said:

TheGillman said:

I never degrade women. I bend them over a pedestal!
[This message was edited Mon Apr 14 14:12:07 PDT 2003 by TheGillman]

That's not funny! madmadmad


Ahhh, the famous Paisley sense of humour rears its head again! What do you find funny, episodes of Full House?

Why you phuckin with me? madmad
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Reply #59 posted 04/14/03 2:22pm

TheGillman

Paisley said:

TheGillman said:

I never degrade women. I bend them over a pedestal!
[This message was edited Mon Apr 14 14:12:07 PDT 2003 by TheGillman]

That's not funny! madmadmad


I think I need to bend YOU over...
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