KoolEaze said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

A lot of those fixins are very common American food of poor folk(which was just about everyone)

I remember watching episodes of the Twilight Zone or Andy Griffith and there was talk of '..ccoon huntin' and eating possum

I've had raccoon before. once in the 70s

Hogshead cheese, chicken feet, never pig oysters, never could do pigs feet, ox tail, gizzards, no frogs legs, cannot eat any kind of shrimp crap lobster anymore, never squirrel, I think I had rabbit once, deer/venison,

I like shrimp, crab and lobster so much that I can´t even imagine overeating on them or never wanting to eat them again. You must have eaten tons of them.

How did you get them so cheap? Or are you older than 90 and remember the times when seafood was still poor people´s food?

LOL
those things were always a treat growing up. At least once a month my dad on Friday my dad would get shrimp hushpuppies scallops etc and different types of fish. Friday was always seafood day.

No I can't eat them anymore. I had a bad reaction to some jumbo shrimp some years ago. It slowly got worse. I could eat the really small ones(shrimp fried rice/eggrolls) sometime shrimp cocktail and mostly fried shrimp, but every once in a while I could feel my throat tightening up.
A few weeks ago I was at my brothers, and they ordered shrimp. I started eating, ate a shrimp, and ended up in the bathroom for 20min. Not risking it anymore.

morningsong said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

A lot of those fixins are very common American food of poor folk(which was just about everyone)

I remember watching episodes of the Twilight Zone or Andy Griffith and there was talk of '..ccoon huntin' and eating possum

I've had raccoon before. once in the 70s

Hogshead cheese, chicken feet, never pig oysters, never could do pigs feet, ox tail, gizzards, no frogs legs, cannot eat any kind of shrimp crap lobster anymore, never squirrel, I think I had rabbit once, deer/venison,

The list is very long with things I haven't eaten, I can pretty much say mostly everything you've listed. Use to love hogshead cheese when I was a child, one couldn't pay me to eat it now. I've just eaten Alligator meat lousiana style, loved it. Eaten escargot, enjoyed it at the time. Nope can't stand lobster but I like crayfish, barely tolerate shrimp and will only eat alaskan king crab. Still will devour some chicken gizzards.

I would try anything when I was young... My parents would let us try it but not tell us what it was.

Can't eat it anymore.

Oh I had cow tongue too. My uncle & dad tricked us on that one too.

I've heard Alligator meat is good. Never escargot.
I get chicken gizzards at least once a month now, love em with rice and onions

OldFriends4Sale said:

KoolEaze said:

I like shrimp, crab and lobster so much that I can´t even imagine overeating on them or never wanting to eat them again. You must have eaten tons of them.

How did you get them so cheap? Or are you older than 90 and remember the times when seafood was still poor people´s food?

LOL
those things were always a treat growing up. At least once a month my dad on Friday my dad would get shrimp hushpuppies scallops etc and different types of fish. Friday was always seafood day.

No I can't eat them anymore. I had a bad reaction to some jumbo shrimp some years ago. It slowly got worse. I could eat the really small ones(shrimp fried rice/eggrolls) sometime shrimp cocktail and mostly fried shrimp, but every once in a while I could feel my throat tightening up.
A few weeks ago I was at my brothers, and they ordered shrimp. I started eating, ate a shrimp, and ended up in the bathroom for 20min. Not risking it anymore.

I just don't like the texture or the flavor.

I think I'm detecting farm raised vs. wild these days..

2freaky4church1 said:

Hamad, u Muslim?

Yeppers.

Fried everything. Fried chicken, fried catfish, fried okra. Hel, we even fry cabbage. Put that cabbage in a skillet with some bacon and some grease and cook it until it's brown. Season everything with some sort of pork such as bacon or hamhocks. Bacon is your best friend. Never throw your bacon grease away....ever. Save it in a jar and scoop it out like Crisco and use it to season and simmer everything in from greens, string beans, butter beans, black eyed peas....hell, even pour a little bacon grease in the batter when you make your cornbread.

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Greens such as mustard greens, turnip greens, collard greens, or a mixture of both mustards and turnips. My favorite is straight up mustard greens. But whatever kind of greens it is, it has to be absolutely soaked in some sort of grease while cooking such as bacon or hamhock. Same thing with string beans. The best are the flat "Kentucky Wonders" and once again, simmer them in that grease. Cabbage, either boiled or fried....fried is the best....once again, simmer them in the grease. Baked corn casserole....once again, save a little of that bacon grease to put in there. Just remember, down South, vegetables aren't meant to be "healthy" . Fuck that. EVERYTHING has to taste good and if it means making healthy foods unhealthy to do it....well then, so be it. Just remember honey, save that bacon grease for damn near everything.

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As for cornbrean. Never....EVER....use Jiffy mix. Honey, you're eating cornbread not cake. Cornbread is not supposed to taste "sweet". The only cornbread that's good is made from Martha White buttermilk cornmeal. And to my understanding, they only sell it in the South so if you're not from the South, you better stock up on it and ship it up there because you ain't eating good cornbread if it ain't Martha White.

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And just remember....if it's good for you, it doesn't taste good to you. Throw the healthy mentality out the window and season it to taste good. Grease, grease, and more grease. Hell, you only live once.

OldFriends4Sale said:

morningsong said:

I had a book that had a lot of black folklore, and old school soul food recipes, one I remember had a recipe for possum, from beginning to finish, interesting read. Funny what things get passed along and what doesn't. My play auntie born and bred in Kansas, decided to educate us children one day, fixed chicken feet and "sweet bread" of course we had to taste it before she told us what it was.

A lot of those fixins are very common American food of poor folk(which was just about everyone)

I remember watching episodes of the Twilight Zone or Andy Griffith and there was talk of '..ccoon huntin' and eating possum

I've had raccoon before. once in the 70s

Hogshead cheese, chicken feet, never pig oysters, never could do pigs feet, ox tail, gizzards, no frogs legs, cannot eat any kind of shrimp crap lobster anymore, never squirrel, I think I had rabbit once, deer/venison,

And don't forget pig ears and smoked sausage sandwiches on little buns about the size of a Krystal burger (White Castle burger size for y'all Yankees ) I love some pig ears. Just don't open the bun and look at it because sometimes you might see a hair in the ear. But then again, that wouldn't be the first time I've had a hair in my mouth.

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It's been a while but now I'm starting to get a craving and may have to go down to Farish Street.

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vainandy said:

Fried everything. Fried chicken, fried catfish, fried okra. Hel, we even fry cabbage. Put that cabbage in a skillet with some bacon and some grease and cook it until it's brown. Season everything with some sort of pork such as bacon or hamhocks. Bacon is your best friend. Never throw your bacon grease away....ever. Save it in a jar and scoop it out like Crisco and use it to season and simmer everything in from greens, string beans, butter beans, black eyed peas....hell, even pour a little bacon grease in the batter when you make your cornbread.

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Greens such as mustard greens, turnip greens, collard greens, or a mixture of both mustards and turnips. My favorite is straight up mustard greens. But whatever kind of greens it is, it has to be absolutely soaked in some sort of grease while cooking such as bacon or hamhock. Same thing with string beans. The best are the flat "Kentucky Wonders" and once again, simmer them in that grease. Cabbage, either boiled or fried....fried is the best....once again, simmer them in the grease. Baked corn casserole....once again, save a little of that bacon grease to put in there. Just remember, down South, vegetables aren't meant to be "healthy" . Fuck that. EVERYTHING has to taste good and if it means making healthy foods unhealthy to do it....well then, so be it. Just remember honey, save that bacon grease for damn near everything.

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As for cornbrean. Never....EVER....use Jiffy mix. Honey, you're eating cornbread not cake. Cornbread is not supposed to taste "sweet". The only cornbread that's good is made from Martha White buttermilk cornmeal. And to my understanding, they only sell it in the South so if you're not from the South, you better stock up on it and ship it up there because you ain't eating good cornbread if it ain't Martha White.

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And just remember....if it's good for you, it doesn't taste good to you. Throw the healthy mentality out the window and season it to taste good. Grease, grease, and more grease. Hell, you only live once.

LMAO U R CRAZY!!!!

vainandy said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

A lot of those fixins are very common American food of poor folk(which was just about everyone)

I remember watching episodes of the Twilight Zone or Andy Griffith and there was talk of '..ccoon huntin' and eating possum

I've had raccoon before. once in the 70s

Hogshead cheese, chicken feet, never pig oysters, never could do pigs feet, ox tail, gizzards, no frogs legs, cannot eat any kind of shrimp crap lobster anymore, never squirrel, I think I had rabbit once, deer/venison,

And don't forget pig ears and smoked sausage sandwiches on little buns about the size of a Krystal burger (White Castle burger size for y'all Yankees ) I love some pig ears. Just don't open the bun and look at it because sometimes you might see a hair in the ear. But then again, that wouldn't be the first time I've had a hair in my mouth.

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It's been a while but now I'm starting to get a craving and may have to go down to Farish Street.

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[Edited 8/30/16 1:10am]

uuuahahahahhehehee never heard of pig ears

See that is the thing once I can see something a visual it's shut down for me
I think I saw an eye lash or an eyeball the last time I had hoghead cheese and I was done
But when i understood that hoghead cheese was literally everything made from the head
it was completely over.

Interestingly, some of that food crosses over into what we call boil up food here. It was eaten by Maori and the working class up to the 1960s in lieu of more expensive and better quality food.

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Soda bread is what we call pioneer bread (Paraoa Rewana), except it is cooked in a cast iron pot and wrapped up in tea towels (Also fry bread, which is very bad for you).

Chitterlings - Pig Intestines are called Tirotiro here and another delicacy - I think they are gross.

For collard greens we eat either watercress (Waikirihi) or puha (Sow thistle) which is picked in spring and it is all boiled up. In fact Maori food is mostly boil ups, we will boil anything, but mostly low grade cuts like turkey tails, mutton flaps and the good old pork bones or beef bones (Ham hocks as well).

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Potatoes are peeled and added along with kumara (Sweet potatos), Kumukumu (A small flavorless pumpkin) and a purple potato called a ikanui (Big fish spud). The grossest bit is the doughboys, balls of flour that are boiled.

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Fried chicken is also popular, but generally only caught on after KFC arrived here in 1971, Fish and chips are also popular (Battered fish and chips). Our hotdogs are also sausages battered and on a stick, although you can get American hotdogs too. I grew up eating this food, but it is rare now as even the poorest in our country can afford fast food or mince and sausages.

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Maori eat also a lot of kaimoana (Sea food) including Mussels, Paua (Abalone), Koura (Lobster/Crawfish), Tuna (Eels), Toheroa (A shellfish), Pipis (Cockles), Oysters and Kina (Sea Urchin - disgusting). Just wondering if the bounty of the sea also makes the soul food plate?

Adorecream said:

Interestingly, some of that food crosses over into what we call boil up food here. It was eaten by Maori and the working class up to the 1960s in lieu of more expensive and better quality food.

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Soda bread is what we call pioneer bread (Paraoa Rewana), except it is cooked in a cast iron pot and wrapped up in tea towels (Also fry bread, which is very bad for you).

Chitterlings - Pig Intestines are called Tirotiro here and another delicacy - I think they are gross.

For collard greens we eat either watercress (Waikirihi) or puha (Sow thistle) which is picked in spring and it is all boiled up. In fact Maori food is mostly boil ups, we will boil anything, but mostly low grade cuts like turkey tails, mutton flaps and the good old pork bones or beef bones (Ham hocks as well).

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Potatoes are peeled and added along with kumara (Sweet potatos), Kumukumu (A small flavorless pumpkin) and a purple potato called a ikanui (Big fish spud). The grossest bit is the doughboys, balls of flour that are boiled.

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Fried chicken is also popular, but generally only caught on after KFC arrived here in 1971, Fish and chips are also popular (Battered fish and chips). Our hotdogs are also sausages battered and on a stick, although you can get American hotdogs too. I grew up eating this food, but it is rare now as even the poorest in our country can afford fast food or mince and sausages.

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Maori eat also a lot of kaimoana (Sea food) including Mussels, Paua (Abalone), Koura (Lobster/Crawfish), Tuna (Eels), Toheroa (A shellfish), Pipis (Cockles), Oysters and Kina (Sea Urchin - disgusting). Just wondering if the bounty of the sea also makes the soul food plate?

I had Irish Soda Bread for the first time in March(Irish Heritage Month USA)

Fried Bread is a huge Native American/Mexican(Aztec) thing

I've heard of Puha before.

I know Seafoods are a big natural way of life for that area. Are potatoes natural or an import?
The watermelon was brought over from Africa by African slaves, it isn't native to the USA.

Vainandy is southern and gay. grin.

Anthony Bourdain loves soul food from other countries like Pho. mmm Pho.

2freaky4church1 said:

Anthony Bourdain loves soul food from other countries like Pho. mmm Pho.

Gawd, I had a serious crush on Anthony Bourdain for the longest time. Read a few of his books too.

OldFriends4Sale said:

Adorecream said:

Interestingly, some of that food crosses over into what we call boil up food here. It was eaten by Maori and the working class up to the 1960s in lieu of more expensive and better quality food.

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Soda bread is what we call pioneer bread (Paraoa Rewana), except it is cooked in a cast iron pot and wrapped up in tea towels (Also fry bread, which is very bad for you).

Chitterlings - Pig Intestines are called Tirotiro here and another delicacy - I think they are gross.

For collard greens we eat either watercress (Waikirihi) or puha (Sow thistle) which is picked in spring and it is all boiled up. In fact Maori food is mostly boil ups, we will boil anything, but mostly low grade cuts like turkey tails, mutton flaps and the good old pork bones or beef bones (Ham hocks as well).

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Potatoes are peeled and added along with kumara (Sweet potatos), Kumukumu (A small flavorless pumpkin) and a purple potato called a ikanui (Big fish spud). The grossest bit is the doughboys, balls of flour that are boiled.

.

Fried chicken is also popular, but generally only caught on after KFC arrived here in 1971, Fish and chips are also popular (Battered fish and chips). Our hotdogs are also sausages battered and on a stick, although you can get American hotdogs too. I grew up eating this food, but it is rare now as even the poorest in our country can afford fast food or mince and sausages.

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Maori eat also a lot of kaimoana (Sea food) including Mussels, Paua (Abalone), Koura (Lobster/Crawfish), Tuna (Eels), Toheroa (A shellfish), Pipis (Cockles), Oysters and Kina (Sea Urchin - disgusting). Just wondering if the bounty of the sea also makes the soul food plate?

I had Irish Soda Bread for the first time in March(Irish Heritage Month USA)

Fried Bread is a huge Native American/Mexican(Aztec) thing

I've heard of Puha before.

I know Seafoods are a big natural way of life for that area. Are potatoes natural or an import?
The watermelon was brought over from Africa by African slaves, it isn't native to the USA.

Sadly all of it excepting the Kumara and Seafood is imported.

Polynesians arrived here 750 years ago and brought the the pig, dog, rat chicken, pandamus, coconut and banana trees with them along with many vegetables. All of them died except the Kumara and the dog, rat and in some far northern districts, taro, gourd and yams.

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The climate was too cold and the Polynesian strains were not very robust, even the Kumara which grew in most coastal regions was a thin tuber compared to the ones of today. Rats thrived and as the little ice age took hold, taro was no longer grown after 1500.

As a result the Maori in most places devolved from neolithic level agriculture to paleolithic hunting and gathering, eating the moa (large bird) and fur seal to near extinction, also gathering shellfish and eating fern root, along with berries.Birds were hunted and the muttonbird (A type of seabird) were preserved in fat and eaten in the winter.

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THat was the South Island, the north they remained Farmers and traders, growing Kumara, gourds and yams. In 1770 Captain Cook introduced potatoes and pigs to the Maori along with cows and sheep. It is believed none of these strands suvived as the Maori did not have the skills to maintain them, it is possible the purple potato is a survivor of these crops from Batavia and that the Kunekune is a descendant of the pigs.

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The pork and potatoes that make up Maori soul food come from 1795 - 1805, when Governor King of Norfolk Island gifted pigs and seed potatoes to Maori who had taught convicts how to make flax rope and Maori who had sold them kauri spars for their ships. This time the Moari knew how to raise the pigs and the potatoes unlike the temperamental kumara survived and thrived. By 1820 Pigs and potatoes were throughout the country and before long Maori fought over them and traded with musket guns being paid for in baskets of potatoes and pigs.

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After the 1820s musket wars, the trade continued and these became staples of the Maori diet. In the 1840s British immigration saw the arrival of Pioneer bread, puha, watercress and sheep/cattle. By 1850 the Maori were trading with colonists and growing potatoes, other vegetable, wheat and controlling the pig trade. However the wars of the 1860s and the more specialised arrival of farmers from the UK in the 1860s/1870s saw Maori agriculture and commerce marginalised (Earlier 1840s colonists had mostly been gentry who did not lower themselves to manual labour - hence why many were dependent on Maori trading).

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By 1875 the large part of the country was under British and American style mixed farming and animal husbandry, the sheep had taken over from the pig as the major stock and meat animal and most Maori still living in villages in the country were marginalised and poor, dying of preventable disease and living mostly in extreme poverty, this is where Maori food, which reallyw as adapted pioneer food took over, Maori ate pork and potato boil ups and watercress long after the Pakeha (Whites) had abandoned it for the roast beef and pudding of England and even the white working class ate mutton more than pork.

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These foods persisted into the 20th century and in the Depression of the 1930s many whites also ate them, but the Maori had the legacy of Kaimoana, eels and the muttonbird. Thes traditions have held true to this day, but the eating of Boil up food is dying out.

I watched this great doco last year called Soul Food Junkies http://www.indiewire.com/...ix-143134/ 4 out of 5

Here in the Dirty South Black folks say Soul Food, White Folks say Country Cooking....It's the same type of Foods but Black folks add more Lard...The end...

I grew it up in a relatively good sized church, nothing near the big megachurches of today, but for it's time in the black community it was pretty big. Anyway, it had it's own fully stocked kitchen, and every Sunday the Women's Board would cook dinners to sell after service fresh made , fried & baked chicken, candied yams, greens, cabbage, baked mac & cheese, and variety of other things, 6in. sweet potatoe or lemon meringue pies for $1, homemade cookies, peach cobbler. Every Sunday that aroma came floating through service, I guess that kept things short because people got hungry and were ready to go. I was just thinking that cooking was flavored from Southern, "Back East", and mid-West backgrounds all combined together. No wonder, nothing ever taste right to me these days.

This is a disch that is considered soul food that some people find disgusting, but I love it.

This is what it looks like raw. Do you know what it is?

It is an "acquired" taste, but cleaned and cooked correctly, they are delicious.

CharlieGriffin said:

vainandy said:

Fried everything. Fried chicken, fried catfish, fried okra. Hel, we even fry cabbage. Put that cabbage in a skillet with some bacon and some grease and cook it until it's brown. Season everything with some sort of pork such as bacon or hamhocks. Bacon is your best friend. Never throw your bacon grease away....ever. Save it in a jar and scoop it out like Crisco and use it to season and simmer everything in from greens, string beans, butter beans, black eyed peas....hell, even pour a little bacon grease in the batter when you make your cornbread.

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Greens such as mustard greens, turnip greens, collard greens, or a mixture of both mustards and turnips. My favorite is straight up mustard greens. But whatever kind of greens it is, it has to be absolutely soaked in some sort of grease while cooking such as bacon or hamhock. Same thing with string beans. The best are the flat "Kentucky Wonders" and once again, simmer them in that grease. Cabbage, either boiled or fried....fried is the best....once again, simmer them in the grease. Baked corn casserole....once again, save a little of that bacon grease to put in there. Just remember, down South, vegetables aren't meant to be "healthy" . Fuck that. EVERYTHING has to taste good and if it means making healthy foods unhealthy to do it....well then, so be it. Just remember honey, save that bacon grease for damn near everything.

.

As for cornbrean. Never....EVER....use Jiffy mix. Honey, you're eating cornbread not cake. Cornbread is not supposed to taste "sweet". The only cornbread that's good is made from Martha White buttermilk cornmeal. And to my understanding, they only sell it in the South so if you're not from the South, you better stock up on it and ship it up tYehere because you ain't eating good cornbread if it ain't Martha White.

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And just remember....if it's good for you, it doesn't taste good to you. Throw the healthy mentality out the window and season it to taste good. Grease, grease, and more grease. Hell, you only live once.

Honey, you talkin bout hot water cornbread for pot licquor! Make you wanna slap yo mama!

Where you been, hon? I've missed you!

LBrent said:

CharlieGriffin said:

This is a disch that is considered soul food that some people find disgusting, but I love it.

This is what it looks like raw. Do you know what it is?

It is an "acquired" taste, but cleaned and cooked correctly, they are delicious.

Chitterlings. Or as we call em, chittlins. My aunt adds hog maws. We add Louisiana hot sauce. [Edited 9/8/16 10:26am]

Girrrrl, please! You know what I'm talkin bout!

CharlieGriffin said:

This is a disch that is considered soul food that some people find disgusting, but I love it.

This is what it looks like raw. Do you know what it is?

It is an "acquired" taste, but cleaned and cooked correctly, they are delicious.

I hate cleaning those things. I no longer eat them they are just too much work and too much everything else. My play auntie could slay cooking some chittlins but hun, we youngsters had to clean several buckets of those at a time, finger be all cramped, wrinkled, and stinky for days.

We lost domaintor a while ago it seems. We scared him.

CharlieGriffin said:

Soul food is delicious! Last month,I was in Atlanta and I made sure that I ate at several soul food restaurants

fried catfish,collard greens,black eyed peas,hush puppies,and a slice of sweet potato pie for dessert

vainandy said:

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As for cornbread. Never....EVER....use Jiffy mix. Honey, you're eating cornbread not cake. Cornbread is not supposed to taste "sweet".

I love Jiffy cornbread