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Oscars

Chris Rock was awesome last night, just like I knew he would be. Chris is so funny and talented and I love how he tells it like it is! Bravo Chris! He did a fanastic job. Loved, loved, loved his comments about Jada Pinkett Smith. They were right on target.

Congrats to all the winners, with a special shout out to Leo, Brie Larson and Best Doc - Amy! I was very happy about those picks, although, I do have to say that I was disappointed the young kid from Room wasnt' nominated. He deserved an Oscars. He was so incredible in Room!

Hoping to see Chris back next year!

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Reply #1 posted 02/29/16 1:17pm

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Very very very disappointed that Stallone didn't win. Its the biggest oversight since Eddie Redmayne won over Michael Keaton last year.
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Reply #2 posted 02/29/16 2:23pm

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EmmaMcG said:

Very very very disappointed that Stallone didn't win. Its the biggest oversight since Eddie Redmayne won over Michael Keaton last year.

Great he did not win, i found nothing special neither his acting or the film itself.

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Reply #3 posted 02/29/16 2:28pm

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214 said:



EmmaMcG said:


Very very very disappointed that Stallone didn't win. Its the biggest oversight since Eddie Redmayne won over Michael Keaton last year.

Great he did not win, i found nothing special neither his acting or the film itself.



He was the most deserving of all the nominees. And besides, he's Stallone.
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Reply #4 posted 02/29/16 2:39pm

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EmmaMcG said:

214 said:

Great he did not win, i found nothing special neither his acting or the film itself.

He was the most deserving of all the nominees. And besides, he's Stallone.


Exactly.

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Reply #5 posted 02/29/16 2:44pm

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EmmaMcG said:

214 said:

Great he did not win, i found nothing special neither his acting or the film itself.

He was the most deserving of all the nominees. And besides, he's Stallone.

Ok, i do not agree.

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Reply #6 posted 02/29/16 2:59pm

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EmmaMcG said:

Very very very disappointed that Stallone didn't win. Its the biggest oversight since Eddie Redmayne won over Michael Keaton last year.

I think his performance in Creed is one of the highlights of his career and it´s a bit sad that he didn´t win an Oscar. This was a great opportunity and in my opinion perfect time to give him that award.

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Reply #7 posted 02/29/16 3:19pm

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214 said:



EmmaMcG said:


214 said:


Great he did not win, i found nothing special neither his acting or the film itself.



He was the most deserving of all the nominees. And besides, he's Stallone.

Ok, i do not agree.



Fair enough. It was a tough category after all. Of all the nominees for supporting actor, who do you think deserved the win?
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Reply #8 posted 02/29/16 4:09pm

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KoolEaze said:



EmmaMcG said:


Very very very disappointed that Stallone didn't win. Its the biggest oversight since Eddie Redmayne won over Michael Keaton last year.

I think his performance in Creed is one of the highlights of his career and it´s a bit sad that he didn´t win an Oscar. This was a great opportunity and in my opinion perfect time to give him that award.


nod Stallone was definitely robbed and although he seems to be a very humbling person, I think even he was disappointed that he didn't win, when he should have. That's why the Oscars have always been nothing but bullshit to me.
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Reply #9 posted 02/29/16 4:28pm

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I heard Star Wars didn't win anything disbelief

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Reply #10 posted 02/29/16 11:51pm

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Star Wars might win next year hmmm

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Reply #11 posted 03/01/16 12:24am

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EmmaMcG said:

214 said:

Ok, i do not agree.

Fair enough. It was a tough category after all. Of all the nominees for supporting actor, who do you think deserved the win?



Tom Hardy was the only one deserving...
Stallone is like the worst "actor" in the history of Hollywood and just nominating him says enough about the cluelessness of the Hollywood elite... He was OK in "Balboa" though, got to give him that...

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Reply #12 posted 03/01/16 2:13am

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^ Stallone's best performances was Copland. And First Blood

He was ok in Creed which was a good film revitalising the Rocky franchise.

Michael B Jordan stole the film.

Mark Rylance was a worthy winner in the category a very subtle and understated performance.

Check out Wolf Hall to really see him breathe as an actor

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Reply #13 posted 03/01/16 3:33am

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Neversin said:



EmmaMcG said:


214 said:


Ok, i do not agree.



Fair enough. It was a tough category after all. Of all the nominees for supporting actor, who do you think deserved the win?



Tom Hardy was the only one deserving...
Stallone is like the worst "actor" in the history of Hollywood and just nominating him says enough about the cluelessness of the Hollywood elite... He was OK in "Balboa" though, got to give him that...

Neversin.



I thought Stallone was very good and his reputation for being a bad actor is undeserved. In the movies he's done that require him to act, he's been quite good. Rocky, Rocky Balboa, Creed, First Blood and Copland. All movies where Stallone proved he can act. I think his reputation comes from the fact that throughout his career, he has consistently done movies where acting is not a requirement. The First Blood sequels were just spectacular action movies. Demolition Man, Cliffhanger, Cobra, The Expendables etc are simple action movies too. He probably could have gone down the more serious route and might now be considered a respectable actor but he chose the type of movies that were guaranteed box office hits. He made a lot of money doing it but lost credibility as an actor. I'm sure when he sees his bank balance, he doesn't regret that.
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Reply #14 posted 03/01/16 3:39am

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Star Wars might win next year hmmm

When you say they might win next year what do you mean? The film was released in Dec 2015 (last day to qualify for an Oscar is Dec 31)..They were nominated for technical awards and lost..The next installment is due Dec 2017 I think, and they'll get more technical nods for the 2018 Oscar ceremony...

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nod Stallone was definitely robbed and although he seems to be a very humbling person, I think even he was disappointed that he didn't win, when he should have. That's why the Oscars have always been nothing but bullshit to me.

When I read that on Twitter I shook me head...Remember when they did the same thing to Eddie? Eddie won a supporting Golden Globe & SAG and they denied him the Oscar...Eddie would not have shown up to the ceremony had he known they were gonna do that...Sly would not have taken his HOT wife to the Ceremony had he known his peers was gonna do that to him....Eddie & Sly were once the HIGHEST paid Celebs in Film...They ruled the 80's and I think their peers (mostly retired Academy Members) still have bad blood...

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Reply #16 posted 03/01/16 7:04am

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luv4u said:


Star Wars might win next year hmmm



When you say they might win next year what do you mean? The film was released in Dec 2015 (last day to qualify for an Oscar is Dec 31)..They were nominated for technical awards and lost..The next installment is due Dec 2017 I think, and they'll get more technical nods for the 2018 Oscar ceremony...



Unless you count Rogue One, but somehow I don't see Donnie Yen getting any best supporting actor nominations... smile
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Reply #17 posted 03/01/16 7:09am

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missfee said:


nod Stallone was definitely robbed and although he seems to be a very humbling person, I think even he was disappointed that he didn't win, when he should have. That's why the Oscars have always been nothing but bullshit to me.

When I read that on Twitter I shook me head...Remember when they did the same thing to Eddie? Eddie won a supporting Golden Globe & SAG and they denied him the Oscar...Eddie would not have shown up to the ceremony had he known they were gonna do that...Sly would not have taken his HOT wife to the Ceremony had he known his peers was gonna do that to him....Eddie & Sly were once the HIGHEST paid Celebs in Film...They ruled the 80's and I think their peers (mostly retired Academy Members) still have bad blood...



Definitely agree. Neither actor had a history of "dramatic" performances and are often criticised for their choice of roles in the past (money-making movies as opposed to serious subject matter) but when they do decide to do a more demanding role, the naysayers deem them unworthy.
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Reply #18 posted 03/02/16 12:32am

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Chancellor said:

When I read that on Twitter I shook me head...Remember when they did the same thing to Eddie? Eddie won a supporting Golden Globe & SAG and they denied him the Oscar...Eddie would not have shown up to the ceremony had he known they were gonna do that...Sly would not have taken his HOT wife to the Ceremony had he known his peers was gonna do that to him....Eddie & Sly were once the HIGHEST paid Celebs in Film...They ruled the 80's and I think their peers (mostly retired Academy Members) still have bad blood...

Definitely agree. Neither actor had a history of "dramatic" performances and are often criticised for their choice of roles in the past (money-making movies as opposed to serious subject matter) but when they do decide to do a more demanding role, the naysayers deem them unworthy.



Not a naysayer here... When Stallone gets nominated for a mediocre performance instead of, for example, Liev Schreiber for his understated but solid performance in "Spotlight" then you know these award shows are complete bullshit and plain emabarrasing to comprehend...

Think about it, they even nominated Mark Ruffalo for fucks sake instead of the deserving actors in "Spotlight"...

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Neversin said:

EmmaMcG said:

Chancellor said: Definitely agree. Neither actor had a history of "dramatic" performances and are often criticised for their choice of roles in the past (money-making movies as opposed to serious subject matter) but when they do decide to do a more demanding role, the naysayers deem them unworthy.



Not a naysayer here... When Stallone gets nominated for a mediocre performance instead of, for example, Liev Schreiber for his understated but solid performance in "Spotlight" then you know these award shows are complete bullshit and plain emabarrasing to comprehend...

Think about it, they even nominated Mark Ruffalo for fucks sake instead of the deserving actors in "Spotlight"...

Neversin.

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Did you find Stallone´s performance in Creed really mediocre? I mean, you said you liked him in Rocky Balboa, and I think his performance in Creed was just going up a notch from there.....basically a continuation and, in my opinion, maybe even an improvement of what we saw in Rocky Balboa.

I´m not saying he´s a great actor but I think he can deliver a good performance if he really wants to and if the role is right (Copland, Rocky I, First Blood, Creed, Rocky Balboa, F.I.S.T) .

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But....even if he had won, I would have considered it more of a "lifetime achievement award" rather than a proper Oscar for acting. And this was practically the Academy´s last chance to honor him as a Hollywood icon because I am not so sure whether we will see him in a dramatic role again anytime soon.

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I haven´t watched Spotlight yet so I can´t comment on Liev Schreiber´s performance but all in all, I think Stallone was really good (considering it´s Stallone) in Creed, and yes, the Oscars are a joke, lesser actors have been given the award, so why not honor Stallone for one of the few times where he did do a great job?

But I perfectly understand why you don´t see him as a proper "actor". lol

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Reply #20 posted 03/02/16 1:29am

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Neversin said:



EmmaMcG said:


Chancellor said:


When I read that on Twitter I shook me head...Remember when they did the same thing to Eddie? Eddie won a supporting Golden Globe & SAG and they denied him the Oscar...Eddie would not have shown up to the ceremony had he known they were gonna do that...Sly would not have taken his HOT wife to the Ceremony had he known his peers was gonna do that to him....Eddie & Sly were once the HIGHEST paid Celebs in Film...They ruled the 80's and I think their peers (mostly retired Academy Members) still have bad blood...



Definitely agree. Neither actor had a history of "dramatic" performances and are often criticised for their choice of roles in the past (money-making movies as opposed to serious subject matter) but when they do decide to do a more demanding role, the naysayers deem them unworthy.



Not a naysayer here... When Stallone gets nominated for a mediocre performance instead of, for example, Liev Schreiber for his understated but solid performance in "Spotlight" then you know these award shows are complete bullshit and plain emabarrasing to comprehend...


Think about it, they even nominated Mark Ruffalo for fucks sake instead of the deserving actors in "Spotlight"...

Neversin.

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No, I wasn't saying that you or anyone else on here was a naysayer or was unwilling to see Stallone as a proper actor and not just a movie star. Its the Academy itself. I don't see his performance in Creed as mediocre though but different strokes and all that.
Sabertooth was really good in Spotlight, I agree. But then, I liked Batman and The Hulk's performances too. smile
Personally I think Walton Goggins should have won for Hateful Eight but he wasn't even nominated. So of the actors who were nominated, Stallone gave the best performance in my opinion.
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^ I loved Walter Goggins in the "Shield" - best character in a top programme.

Jennifer Jason Leigh has also been overlooked in her category - she gave an excellent performance and totally held her own as the only female in an otherwise claustraphobic male cast.

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Did you find Stallone´s performance in Creed really mediocre? I mean, you said you liked him in Rocky Balboa, and I think his performance in Creed was just going up a notch from there.....basically a continuation and, in my opinion, maybe even an improvement of what we saw in Rocky Balboa.

I´m not saying he´s a great actor but I think he can deliver a good performance if he really wants to and if the role is right (Copland, Rocky I, First Blood, Creed, Rocky Balboa, F.I.S.T) .

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But....even if he had won, I would have considered it more of a "lifetime achievement award" rather than a proper Oscar for acting. And this was practically the Academy´s last chance to honor him as a Hollywood icon because I am not so sure whether we will see him in a dramatic role again anytime soon.

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I haven´t watched Spotlight yet so I can´t comment on Liev Schreiber´s performance but all in all, I think Stallone was really good (considering it´s Stallone) in Creed, and yes, the Oscars are a joke, lesser actors have been given the award, so why not honor Stallone for one of the few times where he did do a great job?

But I perfectly understand why you don´t see him as a proper "actor". lol


Of all the movies you mentioned starring Stallone I only liked "Rocky Balboa"... In "Copland" he just put on some weight and acted like a mopey dope, that was hilariously bad...

And even if you would consider it a "Lifetime Achievement Award" which it simply isn't, it would have been insulting to actors like Tom Hardy, or the slew of other actors who haven't been nominated or ever won said BS award like Gary Oldman, 1990's Johnny Depp, Willem Dafoe, Idris Elba, Edward Norton, Joaquin Phoenix or Ralph Fiennes for example...
Giving it to Stallone would be the same as giving it to people like Will Smith; Cash generators, nothing more and I don't think this award was meant for that...

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^ Mate he was top drawer in First Blood...proper film with a good cast - and got lost because of the ensuing Rambo films.

One thing we all can identify is that Stallone has made buckloads for tinsletown by reinventing the boxing and action genres.

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Star Wars might win next year hmmm

Should have won something this year

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luv4u said:

Star Wars might win next year hmmm

Should have won something this year



It won back the fans, that's all it needs...

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kudos to this year's winners

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Neversin said:

KoolEaze said:

Did you find Stallone´s performance in Creed really mediocre? I mean, you said you liked him in Rocky Balboa, and I think his performance in Creed was just going up a notch from there.....basically a continuation and, in my opinion, maybe even an improvement of what we saw in Rocky Balboa.

I´m not saying he´s a great actor but I think he can deliver a good performance if he really wants to and if the role is right (Copland, Rocky I, First Blood, Creed, Rocky Balboa, F.I.S.T) .

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But....even if he had won, I would have considered it more of a "lifetime achievement award" rather than a proper Oscar for acting. And this was practically the Academy´s last chance to honor him as a Hollywood icon because I am not so sure whether we will see him in a dramatic role again anytime soon.

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I haven´t watched Spotlight yet so I can´t comment on Liev Schreiber´s performance but all in all, I think Stallone was really good (considering it´s Stallone) in Creed, and yes, the Oscars are a joke, lesser actors have been given the award, so why not honor Stallone for one of the few times where he did do a great job?

But I perfectly understand why you don´t see him as a proper "actor". lol


Of all the movies you mentioned starring Stallone I only liked "Rocky Balboa"... In "Copland" he just put on some weight and acted like a mopey dope, that was hilariously bad...

And even if you would consider it a "Lifetime Achievement Award" which it simply isn't, it would have been insulting to actors like Tom Hardy, or the slew of other actors who haven't been nominated or ever won said BS award like Gary Oldman, 1990's Johnny Depp, Willem Dafoe, Idris Elba, Edward Norton, Joaquin Phoenix or Ralph Fiennes for example...
Giving it to Stallone would be the same as giving it to people like Will Smith; Cash generators, nothing more and I don't think this award was meant for that...

Neversin.

Wow, you really didn´t like Copland? As far as Stallone goes, that´s the critic´s favorite Stallone film...the one that critics and fans automatically mention when they want to prove that Stallone "can" act. lol I quite like that film and Stallone´s performance in it but, as usual, I respect your opinion and the way you look at things, and I mean it.

The thing with the "Lifetime Achievement Award" is not necessarily my opinion but more or less fact....every time Hollywood feels like there´s an iconic, famous and popular actor who has never won an award they just give him or her the award for "best supporting actor". Off the top of my head Robert Duvall would be the first example for that.

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I absolutely agree with you as far as the quality of work of the actors you mentioned is concerned ( I really didn´t know that they haven´t won an Oscar yet....I´m especially baffled that Oldman hasn´t got one).

While I do agree with you that the award wasn´t meant to be some sort of lifetime achievement award or award for cash generators that is still, unfortunately, the way that Hollywood and the Academy operate, more or less. But of course not all the time.

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If he wanted to keep it real he should of first spoke about just how these ppl in the academy choose who wins. Pull out the head honchos who make the decisions and publicly bash them n call them names .. no you just gotta below the belt act like an ass. Id like to know just what is the criteria to win. Not spout some bullshit about color this and racist that. I like how he said ppl who are bitching werent invited and its a sad day when an actor gets paid huge for a shit movie. And how ya he could of said no but it would of happened wout him anyway so he might as well do what hes told to do n get paid for it. How one actor has range and could others do the same. I have friends who worked in studios and theres a ton of diversity behind, in front .. all over working there. What is this shit theyre saying. If a person didnt measure up then what the fuck get over it n stop bitching. In the overall theyre all millionaire cry babys. Oh im not there at home for my daughters girl scout bla bla so dig in to your millionaire pockets and buy some cookies ... Who the fuck gets to do that .. my wifes fighting cancer I wouldnt dare say Oh im not there dig in millionaires n give to her gofund .. What a loser .. Just whats needed another george lopez racist asshole talking shit this bla bla that while your ass is taking the paychecks. When are the richest ppl of color going to start their own studio. Its not impossible. Its been done b4. The Oscars are gonna pull a Prince n shut it all down on you until your mouthy crap shuts up n gets in line. Im not in his clique is that racist and do you think he wants to hear it,neither do the oscar fux. Enjoy your tirade while you can cuz next time it will be doogie howzer for life n your butt l' be begging for the shot .. isnt rock a comedian, how many tons of comics dont ever get a shot in film, is that some racist shit too? Is every goddamn thing you dont like racist, it cant just be uh. My ex roommates a funny comedian, got a role in a b movie which was really pretty good, he gets turned down for everything most times, Roger Kabler, is that now racist ? For fucks sake oprah, magic, jordan, other very wealthy person and ppl could make,buy, create a studio instead of spending gazzilions on cars, houses,shoes,magazines, etc. Cmon make it happen n stop your damn crying. Ill be the first in line to go to the othe oscars that have real diversity if its true there isnt fairness. I love s lee movies n j fox n w smith, theyre badass actors. Hell ya everyones deserving n expected to be treated equally, so but fuck the oscars if theres even a hint of bias.

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kpowers said:

Should have won something this year



It won back the fans, that's all it needs...

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