Funkcreep if you're still here. How does the visual clue to a global earth being sunrise and sunset work with the flat earth model? If the sun is 3000 miles above us at midday, how far away is it at sunset, presumably 9000 thousand miles (3 up and 6 along) why doesn't its size therefore appear to be a third of the size it is at midday* *lighten up people. This is a real belief so these questions need answering to fit the model. I just want to know how much of the model can work In theory whether it's true or not. If you're no longer interested then you're just a click away from not having to deal with it.
Lust, I beleive it's similar to a spotlight, and then the further away the sun gets from the land it was shining on, by definition, it's going to get darker. I have a good video if your interested in it. I don't wanna take the time to find one then your not even gonna watch it.
Did you watch the video proving usiging trigonometry that the sun is nowhere near 93 million miles away from us? If so, what is your take on that video. Was his trigonomertry correct?
You didn't address my questions. It's not about it getting darker. 1)the sun disappears below the horizon. Only possible on a flat earth if the goes below the flat plane but that's not your model.
2)the sun would appear much smaller at the horizon based on your model but it doesn't so the model fails. It your video addresses these specific issues then please do post it up.
As for the other video, no. I've not seen it. I have disclosed that I'm no mathematician though so can't comment on the accuracy of trigonometry. Are you? Or are you just taking the trig you're being told as fact?
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Evolution, flat earth, The Federal Reserve Banks, The World Wars, Fake Moon Landing...it's all been a scam on us..the general population to control us, to scare us.
But back to more evidence for a flat earth.
In the ball-Earth model Antarctica is an ice continent which covers the bottom of the ball from 78 degrees South latitude to 90 and is therefore not more than 12,000 miles in circumference. Many early explorers including Captian Cook and James Clark Ross, however, in attempting Antarctic circumnavigation took 3 to 4 years and clocked 50-60,000 miles around. The British ship Challenger also made an indirect but complete circumnavigation of Antarctica traversing 69,000 miles. This is entirely inconsistent with the ball model.
69,000 miles! Wow! I was just about ready to believe! But then, sadly, I found this:
During her journey, HMS Challenger travelled almost 69,000 nautical miles (130,000 km), and visited every continent on the planet, including Antarctica.
Dadgum you, Scientific Research! That 69,000 mile distance includes stops all over the world, not just the circumnavigation of Antartica.
Evolution, flat earth, The Federal Reserve Banks, The World Wars, Fake Moon Landing...it's all been a scam on us..the general population to control us, to scare us.
But back to more evidence for a flat earth.
In the ball-Earth model Antarctica is an ice continent which covers the bottom of the ball from 78 degrees South latitude to 90 and is therefore not more than 12,000 miles in circumference. Many early explorers including Captian Cook and James Clark Ross, however, in attempting Antarctic circumnavigation took 3 to 4 years and clocked 50-60,000 miles around. The British ship Challenger also made an indirect but complete circumnavigation of Antarctica traversing 69,000 miles. This is entirely inconsistent with the ball model.
69,000 miles! Wow! I was just about ready to believe! But then, sadly, I found this:
During her journey, HMS Challenger travelled almost 69,000 nautical miles (130,000 km), and visited every continent on the planet, including Antarctica.
Dadgum you, Scientific Research! That 69,000 mile distance includes stops all over the world, not just the circumnavigation of Antartica.
The same applies for Cook. It was a 3 year and 8 day trip from Britian and back at 60 thousand miles.
If the milk turns out to be sour, I aint the kinda pussy to drink it!
Lust, I beleive it's similar to a spotlight, and then the further away the sun gets from the land it was shining on, by definition, it's going to get darker. I have a good video if your interested in it. I don't wanna take the time to find one then your not even gonna watch it.
Did you watch the video proving usiging trigonometry that the sun is nowhere near 93 million miles away from us? If so, what is your take on that video. Was his trigonomertry correct?
You didn't address my questions. It's not about it getting darker. 1)the sun disappears below the horizon. Only possible on a flat earth if the goes below the flat plane but that's not your model. 2)the sun would appear much smaller at the horizon based on your model but it doesn't so the model fails. It your video addresses these specific issues then please do post it up. As for the other video, no. I've not seen it. I have disclosed that I'm no mathematician though so can't comment on the accuracy of trigonometry. Are you? Or are you just taking the trig you're being told as fact?
Ok..I'll find a video that addresses your issues. I'm pretty sure it does.
I doubt you need to be a mathmetician to accept the accuracy of the trigonometry. Just as Dylan said "it don't take a weatherman to tell which way the wind blows". I'm taking the trig i'm being told as fact. A squared + B squared = C squared.
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Evolution, flat earth, The Federal Reserve Banks, The World Wars, Fake Moon Landing...it's all been a scam on us..the general population to control us, to scare us.
But back to more evidence for a flat earth.
In the ball-Earth model Antarctica is an ice continent which covers the bottom of the ball from 78 degrees South latitude to 90 and is therefore not more than 12,000 miles in circumference. Many early explorers including Captian Cook and James Clark Ross, however, in attempting Antarctic circumnavigation took 3 to 4 years and clocked 50-60,000 miles around. The British ship Challenger also made an indirect but complete circumnavigation of Antarctica traversing 69,000 miles. This is entirely inconsistent with the ball model.
69,000 miles! Wow! I was just about ready to believe! But then, sadly, I found this:
During her journey, HMS Challenger travelled almost 69,000 nautical miles (130,000 km), and visited every continent on the planet, including Antarctica.
Dadgum you, Scientific Research! That 69,000 mile distance includes stops all over the world, not just the circumnavigation of Antartica.
How does "including Antartica" exclude what I posted about Captain Cook?
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If Earth was a ball there are several flights in the Southern hemisphere which would have their quickest, straightest path over the Antarctic continent such as Santiago, Chile to Sydney, Australia. Instead of taking the shortest, quickest route in a straight line over Antarctica, all such flights detour all manner of directions away from Antarctica instead claiming the temperatures too cold for airplane travel! Considering the fact that there are plenty of flights to/from/over Antarctica, and NASA claims to have technology keeping them in conditions far colder (and far hotter) than any experienced on Earth, such an excuse is clearly just an excuse, and these flights aren’t made because they are impossible.
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Funkcreep said: You didn't address my questions. It's not about it getting darker. 1)the sun disappears below the horizon. Only possible on a flat earth if the goes below the flat plane but that's not your model. 2)the sun would appear much smaller at the horizon based on your model but it doesn't so the model fails. It your video addresses these specific issues then please do post it up. As for the other video, no. I've not seen it. I have disclosed that I'm no mathematician though so can't comment on the accuracy of trigonometry. Are you? Or are you just taking the trig you're being told as fact?
Ok..I'll find a video that addresses your issues. I'm pretty sure it does.
I doubt you need to be a mathmetician to accept the accuracy of the trigonometry. Just as Dylan said "it don't take a weatherman to tell which way the wind blows". I'm taking the trig i'm being told as fact. A squared + B squared = C squared.
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Those flight routes would indeed prove the round earth so good point. Problem is. They do exist. I've already discussed this. Auckland to Buenos Aires is 13 hours and direct. Not possible on your flat map so you've been proved wrong. Give it up.
Those flight routes would indeed prove the round earth so good point. Problem is. They do exist. I've already discussed this. Auckland to Buenos Aires is 13 hours and direct. Not possible on your flat map so you've been proved wrong. Give it up. https://en.m.wikipedia.or...olar_route
They don't exist..they DONT fly over the antartica...they take the other way
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Those flight routes would indeed prove the round earth so good point. Problem is. They do exist. I've already discussed this. Auckland to Buenos Aires is 13 hours and direct. Not possible on your flat map so you've been proved wrong. Give it up. https://en.m.wikipedia.or...olar_route
They don't exist..they DONT fly over the antartica...they take the other way
Air NZ fly direct from Auckland to Buenos Aires in 13 hrs. That's a fact. I work in the industry. You can go online and search that flight and see the times. I've flown Auckland to Santiago direct on Lan Chile in even less time. That flight is a fact. You can look it up. Your model would make that impossible. It would take 30 hours. Your stated requirement for proof has been met. Your info that they don't exist is an easily provable lie. You've been fooled. The evidence that destroys your model is presented. The evidence you yourself claim Would prove a global earth. Yet you deny it. You accuse others of cognitive dissonance with no sense of irony or self awareness. You've been proven wrong by your own stated requirement for evidence. It's over.
P.S the sun issue can't be resolved either by your model. The model fails therefore it's demonstrably false.
If the milk turns out to be sour, I aint the kinda pussy to drink it!
Evolution, flat earth, The Federal Reserve Banks, The World Wars, Fake Moon Landing...it's all been a scam on us..the general population to control us, to scare us.
Has anyone alerted kirk cameron about this incredible breakthrough in knowledge?? This seems like exactly the kind of thing he and his team of top-notch researchers should be investigating!!!
Brilliant idea! With the running success they had with Saving Christmas last year, they should be able to save this flat Earth, also!
They don't exist..they DONT fly over the antartica...they take the other way
Air NZ fly direct from Auckland to Buenos Aires in 13 hrs. That's a fact. I work in the industry. You can go online and search that flight and see the times. I've flown Auckland to Santiago direct on Lan Chile in even less time. That flight is a fact. You can look it up. Your model would make that impossible. It would take 30 hours. Your stated requirement for proof has been met. Your info that they don't exist is an easily provable lie. You've been fooled. The evidence that destroys your model is presented. The evidence you yourself claim Would prove a global earth. Yet you deny it. You accuse others of cognitive dissonance with no sense of irony or self awareness. You've been proven wrong by your own stated requirement for evidence. It's over. P.S the sun issue can't be resolved either by your model. The model fails therefore it's demonstrably false.
So your telling me those flight, officially, fly over Antartica? is that what your saying???
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We are not done. Yeah you can book those flights for the tourist, I never said you couldn't. I'm talking about flights that fly over Antartica. They don't exist!
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Evolution, flat earth, The Federal Reserve Banks, The World Wars, Fake Moon Landing...it's all been a scam on us..the general population to control us, to scare us.
But back to more evidence for a flat earth.
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You're insane.
Your funny...you call me "insane" but then you just ignore the next evidence for a flat earth. At least Lust attemps to explain it away.
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If Earth were a spinning ball heated by a Sun 93 million miles away, it would be impossible to have simultaneously sweltering summers in Africa while just a few thousand miles away bone-chilling frozen Arctic/Antarctic winters experiencing little to no heat from the Sun whatsoever. If the heat from the Sun traveled 93,000,000 miles to the Sahara desert, it is absurd to assert that another 4,000 miles (0.00004%) further to Antarctica would completely negate such sweltering heat resulting in such drastic differences.
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It just dawned on me, I post evidence and more evidence for a flat earth and nobody ever posts evidence for a global earth. And i'm not talking about those fake CGI photos that NASA and their marketing team put out.
Would somebody please post any evidence that the earth is a globe. Hardcore scientific evidence...please. I'll be waiting.
I'll take that evidence to my people and if they can't answer it or refute it, I'll jump ship so fast. Believe me, i'm finding out that being a flat earther is not exactly the hippest thing in the world.
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If Earth were a spinning ball heated by a Sun 93 million miles away, it would be impossible to have simultaneously sweltering summers in Africa while just a few thousand miles away bone-chilling frozen Arctic/Antarctic winters experiencing little to no heat from the Sun whatsoever. If the heat from the Sun traveled 93,000,000 miles to the Sahara desert, it is absurd to assert that another 4,000 miles (0.00004%) further to Antarctica would completely negate such sweltering heat resulting in such drastic differences.
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Either you are quite an entertaining troll, or you really do not have the slightest clue about physics...
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You have failed to address the issue that your flat earth model makes a flight time of ca. 13 h from Sydney to Santiago impossible - but these flights do exist!
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You have failed to address the Messner-Fuchs antarctica expedition in 1989/1990, which has been documented very well.
If Earth were a spinning ball heated by a Sun 93 million miles away, it would be impossible to have simultaneously sweltering summers in Africa while just a few thousand miles away bone-chilling frozen Arctic/Antarctic winters experiencing little to no heat from the Sun whatsoever. If the heat from the Sun traveled 93,000,000 miles to the Sahara desert, it is absurd to assert that another 4,000 miles (0.00004%) further to Antarctica would completely negate such sweltering heat resulting in such drastic differences.
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Either you are quite an entertaining troll, or you really do not have the slightest clue about physics...
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You have failed to address the issue that your flat earth model makes a flight time of ca. 13 h from Sydney to Santiago impossible - but these flights do exist!
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You have failed to address the Messner-Fuchs antarctica expedition in 1989/1990, which has been documented very well.
I'm not a troll and I don't have any degree in physics. But I do have common sense and some intelligence. Most importantly, I have an open mind and willing to admit that I may have been dupped.
I will look more closely at the flights from Syndey to Santiago. I will look at the closely today.
Your right, I havent looked at the Messner-Fuchs antartica expedition in 1989-1990. I need to do that as well.
So your right, I do need to look at both those issues. I'll admit that, but I wish the people in here would give my evidence the same consideration.
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I don't have any degree in physics. But I do have common sense and some intelligence.
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You don't need to have a degree in physics to understand a bit of what "velocity" actually is - or to understand the law of gravity. It is quite astonishing that you don't get either one of these.
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For instance, you apparently don't understand that if earth spins around its own axis with a certain velocity, any object on earth which does not move relative to earth has the same velocity - relative to an arbitrarily chosen, but fixed point in space. In contrast, you assume that a flying object on a spinning earth should have the earth moving underneath it, which is utter nonsense.
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Then you don't get that 1 kg always encounters the same force of gravity of earth, so it is perfectly clear why gravity can keep a golfball as well as all the water of the oceans on earth's surface.
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Actually, this kind of stuff is normally taught in school, you know...
If Earth were a spinning ball heated by a Sun 93 million miles away, it would be impossible to have simultaneously sweltering summers in Africa while just a few thousand miles away bone-chilling frozen Arctic/Antarctic winters experiencing little to no heat from the Sun whatsoever. If the heat from the Sun traveled 93,000,000 miles to the Sahara desert, it is absurd to assert that another 4,000 miles (0.00004%) further to Antarctica would completely negate such sweltering heat resulting in such drastic differences.
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Either you are quite an entertaining troll, or you really do not have the slightest clue about physics...
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You have failed to address the issue that your flat earth model makes a flight time of ca. 13 h from Sydney to Santiago impossible - but these flights do exist!
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You have failed to address the Messner-Fuchs antarctica expedition in 1989/1990, which has been documented very well.
I'm not a troll and I don't have any degree in physics. But I do have common sense and some intelligence. Most importantly, I have an open mind and willing to admit that I may have been dupped.
I will look more closely at the flights from Syndey to Santiago. I will look at the closely today.
Your right, I havent looked at the Messner-Fuchs antartica expedition in 1989-1990. I need to do that as well.
So your right, I do need to look at both those issues. I'll admit that, but I wish the people in here would give my evidence the same consideration.
MANY people have given your 'evidence' consideration. It's been considered, and considered faulty. Repeatedly. Ad nauseum. NOTHING in reality tells one that this planet is flat.
Whoever raised you and/or educated you needs to be embarrassed.
If its all fun and games, then fine. But if you're being serious in your belief that the planet is flat...go hide away somewhere untill u can work it out. Or either just shut up about it. No one, at this point, should need to explain any of these things further than they already have. Somethings deficient. And I am not going to say its the US educational system in general. It's been able to let MANY a dumbass know the world is spherical.
I'm not a troll and I don't have any degree in physics. But I do have common sense and some intelligence. Most importantly, I have an open mind and willing to admit that I may have been dupped.
I will look more closely at the flights from Syndey to Santiago. I will look at the closely today.
Your right, I havent looked at the Messner-Fuchs antartica expedition in 1989-1990. I need to do that as well.
So your right, I do need to look at both those issues. I'll admit that, but I wish the people in here would give my evidence the same consideration.
MANY people have given your 'evidence' consideration. It's been considered, and considered faulty. Repeatedly. Ad nauseum. NOTHING in reality tells one that this planet is flat. Whoever raised you and/or educated you needs to be embarrassed. If its all fun and games, then fine. But if you're being serious in your belief that the planet is flat...go hide away somewhere untill u can work it out. Or either just shut up about it. No one, at this point, should need to explain any of these things further than they already have. Somethings deficient. And I am not going to say its the US educational system in general. It's been able to let MANY a dumbass know the world is spherical.
Nobody has still proven how light houses can be seen from 50 miles away! And not just light houses, how about the Notre Dame Antwerp spire that can be seen from 150 mile away? Nobody has and nobody can explain this away.
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Nobody has still proven how light houses can be seen from 50 miles away! And not just light houses, how about the Notre Dame Antwerp spire that can be seen from 150 mile away? Nobody has and nobody can explain this away.
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The problem is that this requires a command of optics and also geometry that is - I'm very honest here - beyond my personal command of physics and mathematics. That does not mean though that it is not possible to explain any of these phenomena, it simply means that I personally am not able to do these calculations. Any person with a university major degree in physics could do it though.
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The problem is that you would then be totally unable to evaluate these explanations, because your personal command of physics is even below the level of proper school education (sorry if I'm getting a bit personal here, but one should be honest with you). It's as if you were unable to play a children's tune on the piano, but expect someone to teach you how to play a Beethoven sonata or a Brahms concerto.
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So, just keep it simple in the interest of this discussion. Don't go to spherical trigonometry, just estimate the time of a flight or google a bit about Messner and Fuchs. It's much easier to do, and it proves your flat earth model to be nonsense in just a few minutes.
If Earth were a spinning ball heated by a Sun 93 million miles away, it would be impossible to have simultaneously sweltering summers in Africa while just a few thousand miles away bone-chilling frozen Arctic/Antarctic winters experiencing little to no heat from the Sun whatsoever. If the heat from the Sun traveled 93,000,000 miles to the Sahara desert, it is absurd to assert that another 4,000 miles (0.00004%) further to Antarctica would completely negate such sweltering heat resulting in such drastic differences.
How is that evidence for anything? That's just "I don't get this, so it can't be".
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